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thus_o pretend_v they_o be_v of_o and_o from_o god_n himself_o but_o stay_v â—…ll_o we_o see_v their_o condemnation_n write_v with_o a_o beam_n of_o the_o sun_n by_o the_o finger_n of_o god_n himself_o and_o till_o he_o have_v disclaim_v renounce_v they_o from_o heaven_n by_o some_o visible_a judgement_n or_o destruction_n if_o aâ—…rianisme_n 〈◊〉_d socinianism_n anabaptism_n or_o any_o ancient_o explode_a heresy_n or_o schism_n shall_v revive_v and_o sprout_v up_o among_o we_o as_o some_o have_v late_o do_v shall_v we_o use_v such_o indulgence_n as_o this_o towards_o they_o because_o they_o pretend_v their_o origination_n and_o descent_n from_o heaven_n and_o their_o opinion_n not_o disputable_a only_o but_o warrant_v by_o the_o scripture_n alas_o what_o confusion_n what_o inundation_n of_o heresy_n schism_n and_o monstrous_a opinion_n will_v this_o present_o introduce_v into_o our_o church_n to_o its_o destruction_n ruin_n if_o such_o a_o paradox_n be_v once_o admit_v 2_o second_o because_o it_o be_v contrary_a to_o these_o express_a precept_n and_o precedent_n both_o of_o the_o old_a and_o new_a testament_n which_o you_o may_v peruse_v at_o leisure_n deut._n 13._o 1._o to_o 18._o levit._n 19_o 17._o joshua_n 22._o 9_o to_o 24._o psalm_n 119._o 104._o 128._o 2_o king_n 22._o 8._o to_o 27._o ier._n 4._o 30._o 31._o a_o pregnant_a place_n c._n 14._o 14._o to_o 18._o cap._n 23._o 13._o to_o 23._o cap_n 27._o 15._o to_o 19_o c._n 29._o 8_o 9_o ezra_n 13._o throughout_o matthew_n 7._o 15._o cap._n 24._o 11._o 23._o 24._o 25._o 26._o mark_n 13._o 5_o 6._o 22_o 23_o 24._o act_n 13._o 6._o to_o 14._o cap_n 15._o 1._o to_o 33._o cap._n 17._o 11._o rom._n 16._o 17._o 18._o 2_o cor._n 11._o 13._o 14_o 15._o galath._n 1._o 6._o 7_o 8_o 9_o 10._o c._n 2._o 4._o to_o 18._o a_o note_a place_n c._n 3._o 1_o 2._o 3._o ephes._n 4._o 14_o 15._o phil._n 3._o 1._o 2._o 3._o coloss._n 2._o 8._o 18._o to_o the_o end_n 1_o thes._n 5._o 21._o 2_o thes._n 2._o 1._o to_o 16._o c._n 3._o 6._o 7._o 1_o tim._n 4._o 1._o to_o 7._o chap._n 1._o 20._o chap_n 5._o 20_o 21_o 22._o 2_o tim._n 2._o 16._o 17_o 18._o 23_o 24_o 25_o 26._o c._n 4._o 1._o to_o 6._o titus_n 1._o 9_o to_o 15._o chapter_n 3._o 9_o 10_o 11._o 2_o pet._n 2._o 1._o 2_o 3._o c._n 3._o 17._o 18._o 1_o ioh._n 4._o 2._o 3._o 2_o john_n 10._o 11._o jude_n 3._o 4._o etc._n etc._n revel._n 2._o 14._o 15._o 20_o 21._o compare_v together_o f_o 18_o paul_n will_v not_o give_v way_n to_o false_a apostle_n no_o not_o for_o a_o hour_n that_o the_o truth_n of_o the_o gospel_n may_v continue_v among_o the_o galatian_n and_o resist_v peter_n to_o his_o face_n as_o soon_o as_o ever_o he_o walk_v disorderly_a and_o give_v the_o least_o countenance_n to_o false_a teacher_n though_o a_o chief_a apostle_n and_o do_v not_o demur_v upon_o the_o matter_n yea_o the_o church_n *_o 26._o of_o pergamus_n and_o thyatyra_n be_v sharp_o blame_v for_o suffer_v some_o among_o they_o to_o hold_v the_o doctrine_n of_o balaam_n and_o the_o nicolaitan_n and_o to_o suffer_v jesabell_n the_o prophetess_n to_o teach_v and_o seduce_v and_o shall_v we_o permit_v they_o now_o without_o restraint_n 3_o three_o because_o it_o be_v contrary_a to_o these_o receive_v unquestionable_a maxim_n of_o divinity_n policy_n and_o morality_n principijs_fw-la obstare_fw-la venienti_fw-la occurrere_fw-la morbo_fw-la to_o withstand_v the_o very_a beginning_n of_o error_n heresy_n mischief_n schism_n to_o crush_v these_o cockatrice_n in_o the_o shell_n rather_o to_o keep_v then_o cast_v they_o out_o turpius_fw-la ejicitur_fw-la quà m_fw-la non_fw-la admittitur_fw-la hostess_fw-la all_o wise_a man_n hold_v prevent_a physic_n best_o for_o their_o body_n state_n and_o why_o not_o for_o their_o soul_n and_o church_n since_o sero_fw-la medicina_fw-la paratur_fw-la cum_fw-la mala_fw-la per_fw-la longas_fw-la invaluére_fw-la moras_fw-la 4_o four_o because_o contrary_a to_o the_o h_o 2._o policy_n practise_v of_o most_o godly_a magistrate_n prince_n minister_n church_n in_o all_o age_n nation_n which_o never_o indulge_v such_o liberty_n to_o opinion_n new_a way_n practice_n especial_o to_o new_a church-government_n schism_n and_o conventicle_n which_o he_o here_o plead_v for_o set_v up_o only_o by_o private_a spirit_n in_o opposition_n to_o the_o public_a establish_a church-regelment_n indeed_o in_o some_o matter_n mere_o of_o opinion_n which_o be_v not_o dangerous_a or_o schismatical_a some_o latitude_n may_v and_o must_v be_v leave_v to_o man_n but_o matter_n of_o government_n be_v such_o tender_a thing_n as_o difference_n and_o variety_n therein_o can_v be_v tolerate_v in_o one_o and_o the_o self_n same_o church_n and_o state_n without_o infinite_a inconvenience_n and_o disturbance_n especial_o where_o every_o church_n shall_v be_v independent_a subject_a to_o no_o other_o canon_n rule_n but_o its_o own_o peculiar_a arbitrary_a dictate_v 2_o it_o may_v be_v question_v whether_o the_o independent_a way_n he_o there_o so_o earnest_o plead_v 2_o for_o be_v the_o way_n of_o christ_n or_o not_o since_o he_o neither_o discover_v to_o we_o what_o it_o be_v nor_o produce_v any_o one_o text_n to_o prove_v it_o christ_n own_o way_n nor_o one_o example_n to_o warrant_v it_o in_o any_o age_n but_o give_v we_o good_a ground_n to_o suspect_v it_o none_o of_o he_o without_o much_o scrutiny_n 1_o for_o first_o he_o confess_v i_o 21._o that_o this_o way_n be_v everywhere_o speak_v against_o even_o by_o some_o that_o will_v be_v think_v prime_a man_n and_o pillar_n in_o the_o temple_n of_o god_n and_o insinuate_v that_o the_o parliament_n assembly_n and_o generality_n of_o the_o k_o it_o minister_n and_o people_n of_o 1_o the_o realm_n be_v bend_v against_o it_o therefore_o be_v a_o new_a way_n never_o yet_o hear_v off_o in_o the_o world_n in_o any_o age_n or_o church_n of_o christ_n and_o thus_o general_o oppose_v by_o our_o whole_a church_n and_o state_n even_o in_o these_o time_n of_o reformation_n we_o may_v l_o 33._o just_o suspect_v it_o be_v no_o way_n of_o christ_n till_o we_o see_v its_o approbation_n write_v in_o a_o beam_n of_o the_o sun_n with_o the_o finger_n of_o god_n himself_o and_o till_o he_o have_v justify_v and_o own_v it_o as_o his_o from_o heaven_n 2_o he_o tacit_o acknowledge_v it_o a_o m_o 52._o government_n set_v up_o by_o a_o few_o private_a man_n not_o only_o 2_o without_o but_o against_o the_o authority_n and_o command_n of_o the_o parliament_n and_o supreme_a temporal_a magistrate_n yea_o which_o not_o only_o deny_v but_o oppugnes_fw-la the_o temporal_a magistrate_n parliament_n synod_n direction_n or_o coercive_a power_n in_o ecclesiastical_a affair_n direct_o contrary_a 12._o to_o the_o scripture_n as_o i_o have_v large_o prove_v by_o many_o text_n in_o my_o o_o independency_n examine_v only_o i_o shall_v add_v that_o not_o only_o the_o king_n and_o temporal_a magistrate_n of_o the_o israelite_n but_o even_o heathen_a p_o 7._o king_n and_o prince_n as_o cyrus_n artaxerxes_n darius_n nabuchadnezzar_n the_o king_n and_o noble_n of_o nineve_n etc._n etc._n enact_v good_a and_o wholesome_a law_n for_o the_o worship_n honour_n and_o service_n of_o the_o true_a god_n and_o to_o further_a his_o people_n in_o the_o build_n of_o his_o temple_n who_o thereupon_o be_v enjoin_v to_o pray_v for_o their_o prosperity_n as_o the_o marginal_a scripture_n evidence_n yea_o r_o 17._o paul_n himself_o even_o in_o matter_n of_o religion_n plead_v his_o cause_n before_o festus_n felix_n king_n agrippa_n and_o at_o last_o appeal_v unto_o caesar_n a_o heathen_a emperor_n herein_o yea_o he_o enjoin_v all_o christian_n s_o 1_o to_o pray_v even_o for_o heathen_a king_n magistrate_n and_o to_o submit_v to_o all_o their_o lawful_a command_n for_o conscience_n sake_n to_o who_o judicature_n and_o tribunal_n t_o 12._o christ_n himself_o and_o his_o apostel_n willing_o submit_v