be examined and which is of most importance not infallibly known to be the infallible Notes of a True Church nor infallibly applied to their Church except you will take their Testimony of themselves to be infallible which is the thing in question But not to make unnecessary excursions I shall betake my self to examine his Answer to my second Querie I will not waste time to unfold the Logical term Ignoratio Elenchi though I can shew how unjustly this fallacy is charged upon me and how easily it may be retorted upon him I shall appeal to your reason and leave you to determine who is guilty of mistaking the Argument in debate or of proceeding fallaciously He thinks he hath convinced me of such a sophistical dealing by saying That the Queries about the Christian Church to which those propounded by me ought to correspond proceed not upon any particular Kingdom no nor upon any particular Church But I desire you to consider whether there be not an exact analogy as to the sufficient way and means of salvation between the Christian Church under the Gospel diffused through all Nations and the Jewish Church which was the only Nation which had then the peculiar priviledge to be in Covenant with God and to enjoy the living Oracles of truth and whether there be not a just correspondence in the obligation that lies upon the members of either Church both to serve God sincerely according to his will revealed in his Word and also at the same time to yield obedience to their Superiors in the Lord and according to that Law which was given to Prince and Priests and People The whole Kingdom of Israel at first as it was undivided was the only Church of God And the Kingdom of Judah after the Rent was the only Spouse of God till she had a Bill of Divorce for her spiritual whoredoms And therefore let any indifferent Reader judge whether I proceeded not upon a good ground when I compared the present Catholick Church with the only Church though then confined to one Nation since both are equally furnished by God with sufficient means to preserve Religion and both are equally liable to corruption in their members and if you will believe St. Paul's warning to the Church of Rome Rom. 11.18 22. the visible Roman Church is more then equally with that of the Jews obnoxious to a grand apostacy and excision There is indeed one difference between the particular members of the Jewish Church under the Law and particular Christians under the Gospel for which the condition of Gods servants under the Old Testament was much harder then ours is under the New For the prescript service of God being of old tied to the Temple at Hierusalem and the people being bound to worship God there when the Temple was shut up and the worship of the Lord wholly laid down as under King Ahaz read 2 Chron. 29.7 or when the City and Temple were polluted and prophaned with the execrable Altars and Images of Baal of the Sun and of the Host of Heaven and Devil-worship which were set up by Manasseh who required obedience of Priests and People and filled Jerusalem with the blood of them who chose to obey God rather than Man See 2 Chron. 33.3,9 2. Kings 24.4 Gods faithful servants must needs have been in a sad streight between their zeal for Gods House and service and their obligation to their superiors who caused at least urged them to err and to do worse then the Heathen as the Holy Ghost speaks in that story when there was no appearance as this Romanist fondly dreams of a standing Council assistant to the High Priest resident at Hierusalem as a Visible guide in Gods way but the Priest that shewed their heads were all Sycophants and Seducers Joh. 4 21,24 But now the Service of God being spiritual and not tyed to any one place nor the Law of Christ confined to one Bishops chair only but the Church being spred throughout all nations and every Church that is associated orderly in any Kingdom or Nation or being endowed with a sufficient power of conduct and government in which the Christian Magistrate is concerned if a prevalent party of Governours be not only corrupted in matters of Religion but also so abusive of power that the communion with that Church be unsafe Christians are much more at liberty than the Jews were because by removal of their habitation they may leave a gangrened limb of the Catholick Church and joyn to a sounder part where they may be it in the East or in the West offer a pure oblation and incense unto God with acceptance upon the Altar Christ Jesus Malac. 1.11 Heb. 13.10.15 This advantage of freedom and safety for the Service of God and working out their own salvation a Christian gains above a Jew by the propagation of the Gospel unto the Gentiles and the settlement of particular Churches in several Territories under several jurisdictions But still the parallel holds between Jews and Christians both in regard of their duty to God and their Governours and in respect also of the provision for their eternal Salvation when the iniquity of the times is such that their Governours will either make the people committed to their charge drunk with the poysoned wine of their fornications or make themselves drunk with the blood of Martyrs Apoc. 14.8 17.6 But he goes on to tell us that his Queries proceed upon the Representative Catholick Church in a full and lawful meeting of the chief Pastors to teach the Church diffusive what she is to believe as matters of Faith or to reject as errors in Faith when Questions arise about any of them 1. Now Sir again I appeal to your reason 1. whether you did apprehend or could divine or by any thing in those Queries imagine that by the Visible Catholick Church which he supposes must be consulted as the Guide of Salvation is to be understood a truly general Council lawfully assembled But now you may be satisfied that when the Papists make a noyse with crying up the Catholick Church they do not mean the Body of the Christian Church diffusive over the whole earth which though it cannot err in matters of Faith necessary to Salvation for then it should cease to be a Church by not holding the head Christ Jesus yet can not this be a Guide because it cannot be consulted by particular Christians or others who having got an incling of the truth and desirous of Salvation may be inquisitive for a Guide And though every Christian which is a sound member of the Catholick Church by holding the true Faith and being ready to joyn upon every good occasion with all his Fellow-members in the worship of God through Christ Jesus according to the Rules of the Gospel be obliged to communicate his Light to any man that wants it yet is not every man that agrees with the Catholick Church an Infallible Guide And less than
Counter-Queries My next Task is to examine his exceptions against my Categorical Answers I shall not contend about words nor much crave excuse for want of accurate expression in that hasty delivery of my Conceptions to comply with your request at that time 1. As to the first he excepts against the term Christianity as dubious to make my Answer acceptable I will insert the Term he desires and say True Christianity But I fear the addition will dispel no mist of doubtfulness if there were any such about the answer For Hereticks alwaies pretend to Truth as much as to Christianity and would be taken for the only true Christians But to satisfy his nice and curious palate I answer as fully as he desires There was is and shall be till the worlds end a Catholick Church that in every age is visible by profession of true Christianity to the persons then living That is to say In all ages God had and will have and preserve some Christians who shall so profess the Truth according to the doctrine of the Gospel that their light of Faith shall shine to the men of their generation respectively But I cannot so easily admit another addition sliely made by the Querist to my Answer viz. in their whole profession Latet anguis in herbâ 1 Cor. 3.12,13 He that professes true Christianity may build hay and stubble upon the foundation and yet not miscarry in his person whilst he holds fast his profession of the saving truth unto the end though he be saved through the fire and loose his superstructure as St. Paul assures us It is not therefore necessary that any person or Church which maintains true Christianity should profess it in such an absolute purity as that water should never be mixed with the wine It is enough that poyson is not admixed with the liquor of life But because I perceive that there is much ambiguity in the termes of the Query for which it deserves to be called Fallacia plurium interrogationum a sophistical trick of asking many things under one word that hath two faces under a hood I will weigh the vvords over again and mould my answer anevv fitted to his explication of the vvord Catholick In common speech Catholick is no more than Universal Just. Mart. dial cum Tryph. Justin Martyr vvho vvith many others of that age believed a particular Resurrection of some that should rise and reign 1000 years before the end of the World calls the last Resurrection 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 the Catholick or in plain English Universal Resurrection There is also a Catholick Faith vvhich is common to all Christians and comprises all that is necessary to Salvation And the Church of Christ novv unconfined to any one place or nation but spreading like a fruitful vine her branches throughout the carth is called Catholick that is not National as the old Church of the Jevvs vvas but Universal since the Gospel is preached to all the vvorld indifferently and the voice of the Apostles vvent forth into all the earth and their vvords unto the ends of the habitable vvorld Col. 2.6 Rom. 10.18 It is not to be omitted that in a secondary and borrovved sense the word Catholick is applied to them that hold the true Faith which is common to all Christians and therefore Catholick In this sense not only a particular Church but also a singular person may be called Catholick meaning one that professes the Catholick Faith But the Querist who hath a peculiar language and though he speaks English yet means Italian hath taught me since I first read his Questions and answered them according to the common usage of the words that he meant by the Catholick Church the Representative Church in a full and lawful meeting of the Priests and Pastors to teach the Church diffusive Now according to this sense of the words Catholick Church I do turn my Affirmative Answer into a Negative and say There is not in all ages a visible Catholick Church meaning a general Council lawfull assembled If this be Equivocation you see who teac hes me to be double tongued The exception against my second Answer is that I add the word ordinarily and he supposes that I might mean that some may be saved in extraordinary cases out of the visible Church and therefore he takes my Answer to be Affirmative That some may be saved out of the Catholick Church and this he thinks is contrary to the stream of Antiquity Mage cernit acutum quam aut Aquila out Serpens Epidaurius Horat. If he had not had the malignant disposition rather then the quick-sighted eye of a Serpent he would never have espied a fault in my Answer and fancied an Affirmative sentence in a Negative Proposition For if he had not been forward to cavil he might have easily conceived a very obvious reason of my putting in the word Ordinarily Because we know not how God will deal in judging all out of the pale of the Church and we that live within it are concerned to give an account onely for our selves and for the use of our Light and Talent I said that Ordinarily out of the Catholick Church there is no Salvation This negative which resolves nothing positively concerning Gods extraordinary acting cannot without unjust violence to my words be taken for an affirmative sentence That some may be saved out of the Church And I hope you will excuse if not justify my unwillingness to limit the spirit and mercies of God which blows and shine where God pleases As for Christian Antiquity you know that many antient Doctors have been very favourable in their judgment not only of them who lived by the law of nature in a communion with God when the Covenant of Grace was first ratified with the Hebrew Patriarchs though those worshippers of God were not of the stock of Israel Of this see Is Casaub Exerc 1. ad Card. Baron App. c. 1. but also of them who lived in latter ages in the acknowledgment of one God with a constant observation of Truth and Justice such as were Socrates and Aristides But according to the Querists explication of the Church Catholick I shall now change the shape of my second Answer also and say That Christians may attain salvation out of a Representative Church which he gives to be the meaning of a Catholick Church in the Querie and charges me with sophistry because I will not understand it so The members of a general Council being but few and that not agreed who have right to be so it were hard with Christendom if all who are extra Concilium out of that compass were excluded out of Heaven I add that the Church Catholick may stand and all the members of it may be saved without a Church Representative Now because all that he says is but beating the Air and very impertinent to his design of making a Convert which is the thing aimed at I add a Proposition which though
Indeed the Gentleman who had an interest in the Papers had used his freedom by shewing them to some Divines of our Church who gave a favourable judgement of the Ministers whole design and advised the Gentleman to publish that which they conceived to be of a general concernment and might prove a publick benefit by the removal of a stumbling block laid in the way of weak Christians and might be usefull to the prevention of much mischief which these Questions might produce if permitted to pass uncontrolled The Minister hereupon hath been prest for his leave to let his Writings with the Adversaries to pass the Press And he considered that there was no reason imaginable why he should now conceal what was designed for the maintenance of our Religion from the sight of his Brethren which he had before exposed to the view and censure of our Adversaries who are seldom equal Judges of our Writings Since therefore the five Questions are spread abroad by our Adversaries who may have too great a complacency in their own inventions as unanswerable if we all pass them by as contemptible but may by Gods grace which often works by weak instruments and beyond mans opinion be moved and directed to consider their ways Psal 119 59. Mos est miseris trahere omnia secum Mersa juvat Lucan and turn their feet unto Gods testimonies even for their sakes who both are miserably misled and also industriously mislead others as well as for the good of our fellow-travellers whose company we desire to keep in Gods wayes of truth and peace the Minister hath complied with the Gentlemans desires in this particular and both have the Christian civility to communicate the use of their Light to all travellers that may reap benefit by it whether they be in or out of the way But because we publish the Writings of a Papist we desire to assure the Reader that the Gentleman is not so void of Honour which is his particular Conscience and the Minister is not so forgetfull of his Office whereof * 1 Cor. 4.2 Fidelity is the quality as that either of them should by any wilfull alteration corrupt and falsifie them in the private conveyance or in the present publishing The Minister indeed in his second pains of preparing all for the Press by transcription hath upon the review of his own Letter to his Friend added two short Considerations which for distinctions sake are inclosed within these marks Also he hath made some small alteration in a few sentences for the fuller explication of his own Answers This he thinks it necessary to advertise the Reader of because the Romanist who gave out the Questions and made the Reply may have the curiosity to peruse this Book as being concerned in it If then he shall compare my Letter as it now runs with that which was formerly imparted to him and find something altered and some things added he hath yet no reason to cavil or carp at the Ministers proceeding as unsincere or to charge him with foul play in calling this the Letter to his Friend dated June 18. 1666. For he hath unsaid nothing which was then delivered and he hath only endeavoured both to make himself to be better understood then he might have been before and also to instruct his Friend more fully concerning two particulars which he had occasion to treat of If therefore the Romanist list to read this second Edition of the Letter he will have cause to thank the Minister for his double diligence to discover his errors and to give him fuller satisfaction then formerly And this comes timely enough to prevent his Defence or to procure his Amendment Thus gentle Reader thou maist perceive the whole design of the publication of this party-coloured Discourse I shall detain thee yet a little longer with offering unto thee a Consideration that is near a kin to our Matter in hand We see the indefatigable diligence of Romanists equal to that of the Scribes and Pharisees Mat. 23.15 whom our Blessed Saviour branded with the infamous character of Hypocrites and denounced a dreadfull Woe against them for their restâ—ess travels and divelish labours in compassing Sea and Land to make one Proselyte I desire my Christian Reader to observe the Parallel between them The Roman Sheep-stealers of this Age the Scribes and Pharisees took upon them to be the Guides of Gods people in that Nation of the Jews which was the only visible Church of God at that day and had obtained great credit with the vulgar by the ostentation of counterfeit holiness boasting of knowledge and pretence of Authority The Jewish Church was then very corrupt in Religion not indeed by Idolatry as formerly before the Babylonian Captivity for the smart of Gods rod lying long on their backs made them after their return for ever weary of Idols but by a tenacious adherence to humane Traditions which burden how heavy and hard to be born the Lawyers considered not but the Scribes and Pharisees bound upon the consciences of the people for religious Ordinances of divine original not written in the Law of Moses but traduced by oral tradition of the Fathers It was then as David speaks Psal 119.126 Mat. 15.3 Mark 7.9,13 high time for the Lord to work to lay to his hand that is his Ministry when they had destroyed Gods Law and made his Commandements of none effect by the traditions of men Yea St. Peter says 1 Pet. 1.18,19 that Christ died to redeem his people by his blood from that vain conversation which the Jews were enslaved unto by the tradition of their Fathers The Pharisees then that took such pains to make Proselytes did not make it their business to gain strangers to the Commonwealth of Israel unto a communion with the people of the God of Abraham according to the pure Law of Moses for which Christ certainly would never have condemned them as he did But the aim of their labours was to increase their own party by captivating men under their yoke of Authority to the observance of a traditional Religion and thereby to strengthen their power and worldly interest in that Nation which was called by Gods Name Now for this inveagling of Disciples to the keeping of counterfeit Traditions some whereof were but vain and uneffectual to sanctification others were violations of Gods Law our just Master curses these seduced and seducing Guides for making their wretched followers the children of Hell even worse then themselves by engaging their new conquered Subjects to the most violent hatred and fierce opposition of the truth and the professors of it See now how the Papists tread in the steps of the Pharisees and in one particular out-act their crimes Their pretence to the Chair of Authority indowed with Infallibility their outward varnishes of sanctity laid over their covetousness and uncleanness their horrid hypocrisies I omit to speak of But their Proselytizing is that which I propound to your notice