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A86599 An antidote against Hen. Haggar's poysonous pamphlet, entitled, The foundation of the font discovered: or, A reply wherein his audaciousness in perverting holy scriptures and humane writings is discovered, his sophistry in arguing against infant-baptism, discipleship, church membership &c. is detected, his contradictions demonstrated; his cavils agains M. Cook, M. Baxter, and M. Hall answered, his raylings rebuked, and his folly manifested. By Aylmar Houghton minister of the gospel of Jesus Christ, and teacher to the congregation of Prees, in the county of Salop. Houghton, Aylmer. 1658 (1658) Wing H2917; Thomason E961_1; ESTC R207689 240,876 351

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saphira_n etc._n etc._n sect_n 2._o h._n h._n ibid._n unto_o the_o magistrate_n sword_n you_o have_v apply_v yourselves_o when_o poor_a soul_n out_o of_o conscience_n have_v deny_v you_o to_o eat_v of_o the_o milk_n of_o that_o flock_n which_o you_o never_o feed_v and_o to_o taste_v the_o fruit_n of_o that_o vine-yard_n which_o you_o never_o plant_v etc._n etc._n reply_v 1_o this_o have_v be_v answer_v before_o in_o chapter_n forego_v s_o 8._o concern_v the_o flock_n and_o milk_n vineyard_n and_o fruit_n 2._o if_o fruit_n and_o milk_n be_v deny_v by_o your_o poor_a soul_n i_o fear_v it_o be_v not_o out_o of_o conscience_n but_o covetousness_n that_o may_v swim_v in_o the_o top_n but_o this_o lie_v at_o the_o bottom_n and_o yet_o too_o u●sibly_o discover_v itself_o though_o i_o grant_v they_o may_v deny_v out_o of_o conscience_n too_o but_o erroneous_a 3._o our_o application_n to_o the_o magistrate_n be_v no_o sin_n i_o trow_v when_o people_n out_o of_o malice_n or_o avarice_n not_o 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method_n prescribe_v by_o christ_n to_o christian_n mat._n 18.15_o etc._n etc._n if_o our_o magistrate_n be_v heathen_n we_o will_v swallow_v our_o complaint_n though_o perhaps_o you_o count_v all_o heathen_n that_o be_v not_o baptize_v after_o your_o new_a mode_n and_o according_a to_o the_o apostle_n suffer_v wrong_n and_o be_v defraud_v but_o we_o bless_a be_v god_n be_v not_o such_o sect_n 3._o h._n h._n you_o plead_v you_o have_v right_a to_o it_o tithe_n i_o suppose_v you_o mean_v from_o scripture_n and_o that_o you_o can_v prove_v the_o right_n from_o scripture_n thus_o have_v you_o make_v the_o king_n and_o ruler_n of_o the_o nation_n drink_v with_o the_o wine_n of_o the_o wrath_n of_o the_o fornication_n etc._n etc._n revel_v 17.13.14_o reply_v 1_o have_v