Selected quad for the lemma: nation_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
nation_n	call_v	church_n	national_a	2,044	5	11.4074	5	true

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A27035	A second true defence of the meer nonconformists against the untrue accusations, reasonings, and history of Dr. Edward Stillingfleet ... clearly proving that it is (not sin but) duty 1. not wilfully to commit the many sins of conformity, 2. not sacrilegiously to forsake the preaching of the Gospel, 3. not to cease publick worshipping of God, 4. to use needful pastoral helps for salvation ... / written by Richard Baxter ... ; with some notes on Mr. Joseph Glanviles Zealous and impartial Protestant, and Dr. L. Moulins character.	Baxter, Richard, 1615-1691.	1681 (1681)	Wing B1405; ESTC R5124	188,187	234

vicarious_a or_o depute_a supreme_a monarchical_a aristocratical_a or_o democratical_a 2._o according_o they_o note_v the_o difference_n of_o two_o sort_n of_o papist_n some_o that_o set_v the_o pope_n as_o superior_a above_o council_n other_o as_o the_o council_n of_o constance_n and_o basil_n and_o the_o french_a that_o make_v the_o general_n council_n supreme_a the_o pope_n be_v precedent_n as_o the_o chief_a of_o the_o patriarch_n and_o have_v many_o privilege_n as_o primate_n to_o the_o universal_a church_n 3._o but_o that_o in_o truth_n the_o catholic_n govern_v power_n of_o pope_n and_o the_o other_o four_o patriarch_n be_v but_o a_o humane_a form_n of_o church_n policy_n settle_v in_o one_o empire_n as_o a_o national_a kind_n of_o church_n and_o the_o council_n be_v universal_a as_o to_o the_o empire_n but_o not_o to_o all_o the_o christian_a world_n which_o i_o have_v prove_v against_o w._n johnson_n full_o call_v by_o the_o emperor_n that_o have_v no_o power_n over_o other_o nation_n and_o subscribe_v by_o his_o subject_n 4._o that_o the_o grand_a cheat_n that_o have_v set_v up_o popery_n be_v the_o turn_v this_o national_a church_n into_o a_o universal_a government_n of_o all_o the_o christian_a world_n and_o pretend_v that_o christ_n or_o his_o apostle_n set_v up_o that_o power_n over_o all_o which_o emperor_n and_o imperial_a council_n set_v up_o only_o over_o one_o empire_n 5._o we_o be_v swear_v against_o foreign_a jurisdiction_n by_o the_o oath_n of_o supremacy_n for_o the_o roman_a empire_n be_v dissolve_v and_o if_o it_o be_v not_o we_o be_v no_o subject_n of_o it_o 6._o yet_o we_o hold_v that_o all_o christian_n shall_v live_v in_o all_o possible_a love_n and_o concord_n counsel_v and_o help_v one_o another_o for_o the_o edification_n of_o the_o church_n and_o that_o such_o council_n be_v useful_a thereto_o as_o may_v be_v have_v without_o more_o hurt_n than_o good_a but_o that_o no_o universal_a govern_v power_n beside_o christ_n for_o legislation_n judgement_n or_o execution_n be_v needful_a to_o that_o concord_n nor_o be_v a_o government_n of_o the_o whole_a christian_a world_n by_o any_o one_o political_a supreme_a pope_n or_o council_n or_o college_n of_o pastor_n or_o cardinal_n any_o more_o possible_a or_o lawful_a to_o be_v seek_v than_o that_o all_o the_o kingdom_n on_o earth_n have_v one_o humane_a civil_a sovereign_n though_o all_o king_n as_o well_o as_o all_o bishop_n be_v bind_v to_o serve_v god_n with_o the_o great_a concord_n that_o they_o can_v attain_v but_o now_o he_o that_o will_v read_v many_o late_a divine_n of_o england_n will_v find_v that_o they_o be_v come_v to_o this_o 1._o to_o take_v the_o foresay_a conciliar_a and_o french_a papist_n to_o be_v no_o papist_n and_o so_o to_o make_v it_o a_o controversy_n de_fw-fr nomine_fw-la in_o which_o for_o i_o let_v they_o have_v their_o liberty_n 2_o to_o take_v it_o for_o a_o necessary_a thing_n to_o believe_v that_o the_o universal_a church_n in_o the_o world_n have_v one_o supreme_a govern_v power_n under_o christ_n and_o be_v a_o society_n that_o be_v therein_o visible_o one_o and_o 3._o that_o this_o one_o rule_v power_n be_v either_o a_o general_n council_n or_o the_o college_n of_o all_o bishop_n on_o earth_n 4._o and_o that_o the_o imperial_a church-form_n be_v and_o be_v to_o be_v the_o true_a universal_a church_n form_n viz._n a_o general_n council_n where_o the_o five_o patriarch_n be_v by_o themselves_o or_o by_o consent_n 5._o and_o that_o the_o pope_n be_v precedent_n and_o principium_fw-la unitatis_fw-la and_o chief_a patriarch_n and_o so_o to_o be_v obey_v by_o we_o 6._o and_o that_o there_o be_v no_o true_a way_n to_o universal_a concord_n but_o by_o be_v of_o this_o one_o church_n so_o form_v and_o obey_v its_o universal_a law_n which_o they_o say_v christ_n have_v give_v they_o power_n to_o make_v 7._o and_o that_o they_o be_v schismatic_n and_o not_o to_o be_v tolerate_v that_o do_v not_o so_o consent_v and_o obey_v 8._o yea_o say_v some_o to_o we_o in_o england_n it_o be_v compel_v obedience_n to_o all_o the_o present_a imposition_n which_o only_o must_v cure_v our_o division_n without_o abatement_n for_o union_n or_o any_o toleration_n a_o great_a deal_n more_o of_o this_o nature_n be_v build_v on_o this_o principle_n that_o the_o church_n in_o all_o the_o earth_n be_v one_o as_o under_o one_o humane_a supreme_a government_n under_o christ_n and_o that_o all_o be_v schismatic_n that_o be_v not_o of_o it_o and_o obey_v it_o not_o i_o be_o not_o for_o disgrace_v any_o by_o the_o name_n of_o papist_n that_o refuse_v it_o whether_o the_o french_a and_o the_o council_n of_o pisa_n constance_n and_o basil_n shall_v be_v call_v papist_n i_o contend_v not_o but_o whether_o those_o false_a principle_n be_v the_o only_a term_n of_o concord_n wise_a man_n will_v cautelous_o consider_v advertisement_n there_o be_v late_o publish_v a_o book_n of_o the_o same_o author_n call_v a_o search_n for_o the_o english_a schismatic_n by_o the_o case_n and_o character_n 1._o of_o the_o diocesan_n cannoneer_n 2._o of_o the_o present_a mere_a nonconformist_n not_o as_o a_o accusation_n of_o the_o former_a but_o a_o necessary_a defence_n of_o the_o latter_a so_o far_o as_o they_o be_v wrongful_o accuse_v and_o persecute_v by_o they_o and_o be_v to_o be_v sell_v by_o nevil_n simmons_n at_o the_o sign_n of_o the_o three_o golden_a cock_n at_o the_o west-end_n of_o st._n paul_n the_o content_n a_o historical_a preface_n dr._n stillingfleet_n judgement_n as_o in_o his_o irenicon_n a_o premise_v explication_n of_o the_o equivocal_a word_n church_n what_o the_o catholic_n church_n be_v in_o our_o judgement_n and_o what_o in_o the_o judgement_n of_o many_o of_o our_o silencer_n chap._n 1._o dr._n stillingfleet_n large_a and_o plain_o assert_v of_o our_o principle_n in_o his_o defence_n of_o archbishop_n laud_n and_o rom._n idolatry_n p._n 1._o chap._n 2._o some_o animadversion_n on_o his_o preface_n whether_o the_o jesuit_n first_o bring_v in_o spiritual_a prayer_n a_o full_a explication_n of_o our_o judgement_n about_o spiritual_a prayer_n his_o hard_a term_n against_o man_n high_a or_o low_a choose_v tutor_n for_o their_o child_n p._n 11._o chap._n 3._o dr._n stillingfleet_n his_o accusation_n examine_v his_o confusion_n dispute_v a_o question_n not_o state_v what_o he_o mean_v by_o our_o church_n by_o communion_n by_o constant_a by_o withdraw_a by_o separate_a congregation_n what_o separation_n i_o be_o for_o or_o against_o whether_o he_o say_v true_a that_o my_o tremendous_a aggravation_n of_o the_o sin_n of_o conform_v be_v write_v without_o the_o least_o provocation_n on_o their_o part_n or_o that_o as_o design_v to_o represent_v the_o clergy_n as_o notorious_a lie_a perjure_a villain_n p._n 22._o etc._n etc._n chap._n 4._o his_o false_a history_n of_o the_o old_a nonconformist_n as_o if_o bancroft'_v danger_n posit_n heylin_n and_o all_o such_o old_a accuser_n utter_o belie_v they_o and_o the_o canon_n make_v against_o they_o have_v a_o false_a supposition_n his_o citation_n examine_v more_o proof_n of_o his_o falsification_n the_o difference_n between_o the_o nonconformist_n and_o the_o brownist_n how_o we_o be_v use_v by_o they_o the_o reformatio_fw-la legum_n eccles_n how_o much_o for_o discipline_n i_o now_o add_v my_o request_n to_o the_o reader_n that_o will_v know_v how_o far_o the_o first_o reformer_n be_v of_o the_o nonconformist_n mind_n and_o against_o our_o new_a churchman_n that_o they_o will_v but_o read_v cranmer_n and_o the_o other_o drs._n word_n cite_v by_o dr._n stillingfleet_n in_o the_o end_n of_o his_o irenicon_n and_o leave_v out_o of_o dr._n burnet_n history_n and_o bucer_n scripta_fw-la anglicana_n de_fw-fr regno_fw-la del_fw-it his_o censura_fw-la of_o the_o liturgy_n &_o de_fw-fr cura_fw-la anim._n etc._n etc._n the_o story_n of_o dr._n ames_n paul_n bayne_n dr._n fulk_n etc._n etc._n dr._n humphrey_n letter_n to_o the_o bishop_n p._n 55_o 56_o 57_o chap._n 5._o the_o false_a reason_n and_o accusation_n of_o his_o second_o part_n p._n 59_o my_o judgement_n and_o case_n state_v which_o he_o false_o report_v other_o case_n consider_v whether_o it_o be_v true_a that_o there_o be_v no_o other_o reason_n against_o communion_n than_o be_v at_o the_o first_o reformation_n difference_n prove_v 1._o from_o the_o thing_n impose_v 2._o from_o the_o design_n of_o the_o imposer_n 3._o from_o the_o effect_n 4._o from_o the_o case_n of_o the_o church_n with_o who_o we_o communicate_v 5._o from_o the_o additional_a reason_n for_o our_o preach_v p._n 64._o what_o he_o will_v have_v they_o do_v that_o can_v have_v room_n in_o their_o church_n p._n 70._o his_o appeal_n to_o my_o case_n at_o kederminster_n shame_v p._n 71_o etc._n etc._n his_o false_a supposition_n that_o most_o of_o my_o hearer_n need_v not_o our_o teach_v because_o they_o sometime_o hear_v in_o the_o parish-church_n

presbyterian_a national_a church_n be_v one_o as_o head_v by_o the_o general_n assembly_n 10._o a_o episcopal_a national_a church_n be_v one_o either_o as_o head_v by_o one_o national_a bishop_n or_o else_o by_o a_o synod_n of_o bishop_n aristocratical_o or_o else_o by_o a_o synod_n of_o bishop_n and_o presbyter_n aristocratical_o all_o these_o that_o be_v constitute_v of_o one_o regent_n and_o a_o subdite_fw-la part_n be_v call_v church_n in_o a_o political_a proper_a sense_n and_o not_o only_o equivocal_o now_o the_o question_n be_v of_o which_o sort_n be_v the_o national_a church_n of_o england_n and_o the_o doctor_n say_v page_n 287._o 1._o that_o the_o society_n of_o all_o christian_n be_v count_v a_o true_a catholic_n church_n from_o their_o union_n and_o consent_n in_o some_o common_a thing_n and_o so_o be_v we_o etc._n etc._n answ_n but_o in_o what_o common_a thing_n not_o in_o one_o bible_n for_o so_o may_v heretic_n much_o less_o in_o one_o liturgy_n if_o it_o be_v not_o a_o consent_n in_o one_o govern_v head_n it_o make_v no_o proper_a church_n 2._o he_o suppose_v a_o agreement_n in_o the_o same_o faith_n and_o under_o the_o same_o government_n and_o discipline_n answ_n that_o be_v right_a but_o what_o government_n be_v it_o civil_a or_o ecclesiastical_a the_o first_o be_v no_o essential_a part_n of_o a_o proper_a church_n if_o it_o be_v the_o late_a be_v it_o one_o in_o specie_fw-la or_o in_fw-la individu●_fw-la politico_fw-la not_o the_o former_a for_o a_o 100_o episcopal_a church_n in_o several_a nation_n may_v have_v one_o species_n of_o government_n as_o many_o kingdom_n may_v have_v it_o be_v therefore_o the_o late_a that_o be_v all_o my_o question_n which_o be_v the_o churchhead_n he_o say_v as_o several_a family_n make_v one_o kingdom_n so_o several_a lesser_a church_n make_v one_o national_a answ_n true_o if_o that_o national_a church_n have_v one_o constitutive_a head_n as_o a_o family_n have_v it_o be_v no_o family_n without_o a_o pater_n or_o mater_fw-la familias_fw-la and_o no_o govern_v proper_a church_n without_o governor_n and_o there_o be_v no_o governor_n where_o there_o be_v no_o supreme_a in_o his_o place_n and_o kind_n for_o inferior_n have_v all_o their_o power_n from_o the_o supreme_a there_o be_v no_o universal_a supreme_a but_o god_n but_o the_o king_n be_v subordinate_o the_o supreme_a in_o his_o kingdom_n in_o respect_n to_o inferior_n and_o so_o it_o be_v in_o other_o govern_v society_n he_o add_v the_o name_n of_o a_o church_n comprehend_v the_o ecclesiastical_a governor_n and_o people_n of_o whole_a city_n and_o so_o may_v be_v extend_v to_o many_o city_n unite_v under_o one_o civil_a government_n and_o the_o same_o rule_n of_o religion_n answ_n 1._o if_o the_o question_n be_v only_a de_fw-fr nomine_fw-la we_o grant_v that_o civil_a court_n even_o of_o heathen_n be_v usual_o by_o writer_n call_v ecclesia_fw-la and_o so_o be_v any_o assembly_n if_o this_o be_v all_o you_o mean_v speak_v out_o 2._o many_o nation_n may_v agree_v in_o the_o same_o rule_n of_o religion_n yea_o so_o all_o christian_n do_v do_v this_o constitute_v national_a church_n 3._o one_o civil_a government_n be_v of_o another_o species_n and_o not_o essential_a but_o accidental_a to_o a_o church_n and_o therefore_o do_v not_o constitute_v or_o individuate_v it_o one_o justice_n of_o peace_n or_o mayor_n in_o a_o christian_a corporation_n do_v not_o make_v it_o one_o parish_n church_n but_o if_o this_o be_v all_o your_o meaning_n speak_v out_o we_o grant_v de_fw-fr re_fw-mi a_o christian_a kingdom_n and_o contend_v not_o the_o nomine_fw-la if_o you_o call_v it_o a_o church_n §_o 3._o page_n 297._o ●_o as_o to_o the_o difference_n of_o a_o national_a church_n and_o kingdom_n he_o grant_v what_o we_o desire_v confess_v the_o difference_n but_o ask_v whence_o come_v all_o this_o zeal_n now_o against_o a_o national_a church_n answ_n a_o untrue_a insinuation_n 1._o to_o desire_v to_o know_v what_o it_o be_v be_v untrue_o call_v zeal_n against_o it_o 2._o and_o agree_v with_o you_o in_o the_o description_n be_v no_o zeal_n against_o it_o he_o add_v the_o presbyterian_o and_o mr._n hudson_n write_v for_o it_o answ_n mr._n hudson_n be_v a_o conformist_n and_o the_o presbyterian_o tell_v you_o what_o they_o mean_v a_o christian_a nation_n of_o particular_a church_n govern_v by_o one_o general_n assembly_n as_o the_o supreme_a ecclesiastical_a government_n whether_o this_o be_v just_a or_o unjust_a be_v now_o none_o of_o our_o question_n i_o have_v oft_o tell_v what_o i_o think_v of_o it_o do_v you_o also_o tell_v we_o which_o be_v your_o national_a church-power_n and_o i_o have_v do_v be_v you_o loath_a to_o be_v understand_v §_o 4._o but_o page_n 299._o he_o come_v to_o his_o plain_a answer_n viz._n 1._o the_n national_a church_n of_o england_n diffusive_a be_v the_o whole_a body_n of_o christian_n in_o this_o nation_n consist_v of_o pastor_n and_o people_n agree_v in_o that_o faith_n government_n and_o worship_n which_o be_v establish_v by_o the_o law_n of_o this_o realm_n and_o now_o he_o continue_v his_o wonder_n at_o those_o who_o so_o confident_o say_v they_o can_v tell_v what_o we_o mean_v by_o the_o church_n of_o england_n answ_n yea_o your_o wonder_n may_v increase_v that_o i_o less_o and_o less_o understand_v it_o if_o you_o do_v not_o after_o tell_v we_o better_a ●●an_z in_o this_o unhappy_a definition_n 1._o be_v this_o call_v the_o church_n diffusive_a one_o govern_v body_n politic_a if_o not_o it_o be_v no_o church_n in_o the_o sense_n in_o question_n and_o i_o will_v not_o stick_v with_o you_o for_o a_o equivocal_a name_n 2._o do_v you_o mean_v by_o government_n agree_v in_o 1._o the_o civil_a government_n 2._o or_o the_o ecclesiastical_a government_n of_o the_o particular_a church_n several_o 3._o or_o one_o government_n of_o all_o the_o national_a church_n 1._o the_o first_o make_v it_o no_o church_n in_o the_o sense_n in_o question_n 2._o the_o second_o make_v it_o no_o church_n but_o a_o association_n of_o many_o church_n such_o as_o a_o thousand_o independent_a church_n may_v make_v or_o the_o church_n of_o many_o kingdom_n many_o family_n associate_v be_v no_o city_n or_o one_o rule_v society_n if_o they_o agree_v in_o no_o common_a governor_n but_o only_o their_o several_a family_n governor_n many_o city_n associate_v be_v no_o commonwealth_n if_o they_o agree_v not_o in_o one_o supreme_a power_n it_o be_v no_o political_a body_n without_o one_o common_a governor_n natural_a or_o collective_a monarchical_a aristocratical_a or_o democratical_a and_o what_o be_v it_o of_o worship_n establish_v by_o law_n that_o individuate_n your_o church_n if_o all_o th●●_n the_o law_n have_v establish_v 1._o your_o church_n have_v oft_o change_v its_o very_a be_v and_o may_v do_v at_o every_o parliament_n 2._o and_o the_o church_n be_v small_a and_o unknown_a if_o all_o that_o differ_v in_o any_o point_n establish_v be_v no_o part_n of_o it_o but_o if_o it_o be_v not_o all_o establish_v who_o know_v by_o this_o definition_n what_o it_o be_v and_o what_o be_v the_o very_a matter_n of_o your_o church_n so_o that_o here_o be_v a_o definition_n which_o neither_o notifi_v matter_n or_o form_n §_o 5._o next_o he_o answer_v the_o question_n how_o all_o the_o congregation_n in_o england_n make_v up_o this_o one_o church_n and_o answer_v by_o unity_n of_o consent_n as_o all_o particular_a church_n make_v one_o catholic_n answ_n consent_v to_o what_o 1._o if_o it_o be_v not_o to_o one_o common_a government_n it_o be_v no_o govern_v church_n as_o one_o 2._o do_v he_o think_v that_o the_o catholic_n church_n consent_v not_o to_o one_o govern_v head_n christ_n and_o do_v any_o thing_n else_o make_v they_o formal_o one_o politic_a body_n or_o church_n this_o be_v ill_a doctrine_n §_o 6._o question_v how_o come_v it_o to_o be_v one_o national_a church_n say_v he_o i_o say_v because_o it_o be_v receive_v by_o the_o common_a consent_n of_o the_o whole_a nation_n in_o parliament_n as_o other_o law_n of_o the_o nation_n be_v answ_n whether_o how_o come_v it_o speak_v of_o the_o efficient_a cause_n or_o the_o formal_a or_o what_o it_o be_v hard_a to_o know_v so_o singular_a be_v his_o logical_a notion_n but_o the_o first_o be_v most_o likely_a and_o then_o 1._o the_o question_n be_v still_o unanswered_a what_o be_v the_o one_o common_a govern_v power_n in_o the_o church_n which_o this_o parliament_n consent_n have_v ●●t_n up_o he_o know_v this_o be_v the_o question_n 2._o and_o if_o it_o be_v by_o parliament_n consent_n how_o old_a be_v your_o church_n what_o parliament_n first_o make_v it_o it_o be_v not_o so_o old_a as_o luther_n be_v it_o no_o old_a than_o the_o liturgy_n or_o canon_n 3._o do_v it_o die_v and_o live_v again_o as_o oft_o as_o parliament_n change_v it_o if_o the_o corruption_n of_o

man_n that_o thus_o make_v you_o agent_n for_o a_o pope_n 3._o do_v this_o political_a description_n of_o parochial_a diocesane_n provincial_a patriarchal_a church_n also_o bring_v in_o popery_n 4._o then_o either_o our_o archbishop_n have_v no_o power_n or_o they_o have_v it_o from_o no_o superior_a or_o else_o they_o infer_v a_o pope_n 5._o i_o again_o tell_v the_o doctor_n as_o i_o do_v mr._n cheny_n it_o be_v disingenuous_a to_o say_v this_o to_o i_o when_o i_o have_v write_v so_o much_o against_o johnson_n the_o priest_n in_o my_o first_o and_o special_o my_o second_o answer_n which_o none_o reply_v to_o without_o any_o confutation_n or_o notice_n of_o it_o i_o have_v full_o prove_v that_o christ_n catholic_n church_n have_v himself_o for_o a_o essential_a head_n sometime_o visible_a on_o earth_n leave_v visible_a law_n and_o now_o visible_a to_o the_o courtier_n in_o heaven_n and_o come_v visible_o to_o judge_v all_o and_o there_o be_v no_o other_o indeed_o if_o the_o doctrine_n of_o mr._n dodwell_n and_o many_o such_o hold_n who_o deny_v that_o the_o power_n flow_v immediate_o from_o christ_n law_n or_o charter_n to_o the_o church_n and_o not_o from_o the_o ordainer_n or_o elector_n who_o do_v but_o determine_v of_o the_o receiver_n and_o invest_v he_o than_o all_o the_o doctor_n in_o england_n can_v answer_v the_o digression_n cap._n 14._o of_o the_o book_n call_v the_o catholic_n hierarchy_n prove_v that_o such_o a_o prelatical_a subordination_n of_o church_n infer_v a_o pope_n but_o i_o have_v full_o show_v the_o vanity_n of_o that_o inference_n as_o to_o we_o but_o remember_v that_o the_o doctor_n and_o i_o be_v agree_v that_o a_o nation_n consent_v in_o a_o association_n of_o particular_a church_n may_v be_v call_v a_o national_a church_n equivocal_o though_o it_o can_v make_v no_o law_n unless_o its_o consent_n also_o set_v up_o a_o supreme_a church-government_n meet_v agreement_n be_v not_o law_n §_o 16._o he_o next_o will_v make_v the_o unwary_a reader_n think_v that_o he_o answer_v my_o question_n 1._o what_o be_v the_o same_o rule_n that_o all_o must_v walk_v by_o viz._n that_o the_o scripture_n be_v the_o foundation_n of_o our_o faith_n 2._o but_o our_o church_n require_v conformity_n to_o the_o rule_v appoint_v by_o it_o agreeable_a to_o the_o word_n of_o god_n answ_n but_o it_o seem_v the_o scripture_n than_o be_v not_o the_o whole_a rule_n but_o part_n the_o fundamental_a part_n 2._o which_o do_v paul_n mean_v be_v your_o church_n rule_n then_o make_v 3._o do_v your_o church_n require_v this_o ad_fw-la esse_fw-la or_o but_o ad_fw-la melius_fw-la esse_fw-la if_o the_o first_o all_o canon-breaker_n be_v dismember_v and_o be_v that_o according_a to_o god_n word_n if_o the_o late_a why_o be_o not_o i_o of_o your_o church_n 4._o but_o how_o come_v that_o church_n to_o command_v and_o bind_v which_o have_v no_o such_o rule_v power_n chap._n ix_o of_o the_o people_n consent_n to_o the_o pastoral_n and_o church-relation_n §_o 1._o page_n 307._o say_v the_o dean_n the_o next_o thing_n to_o be_v consider_v be_v the_o interest_n and_o power_n of_o the_o people_n as_o to_o the_o choice_n of_o their_o pastor_n for_o want_v of_o which_o great_a complaint_n be_v make_v mr._n baxter_n be_v very_o tragical_a on_o this_o argument_n and_o keep_v not_o within_o tolerable_a bound_n of_o discretion_n in_o plead_v the_o people_n cause_n against_o magistrate_n and_o patron_n and_o law_n answ_n 1._o that_o be_v tolerable_a to_o some_o man_n which_o other_o can_v bear_v silken_a ear_n must_v have_v soft_a word_n the_o land_n can_v bear_v all_o his_o word_n be_v a_o old_a complaint_n and_o speak_n please_a thing_n prophecy_n deceit_n be_v a_o old_a mandate_n it_o be_v no_o wonder_n if_o that_o sort_n of_o man_n that_o must_v judge_n whether_o our_o preach_v and_o worship_v god_n be_v tolerable_a and_o must_v write_v we_o down_o the_o word_n which_o we_o must_v say_v to_o god_n in_o prayer_n or_o not_o be_v tolerate_v do_v also_o think_v themselves_o the_o meet_a judge_n whether_o our_o indiscretion_n be_v intolerable_a 2._o but_o let_v we_o try_v whether_o he_o state_n this_o controversy_n any_o more_o logical_o or_o true_o than_o the_o rest_n and_o whether_o he_o intimate_v not_o hurtful_a though_o tolerable_a untruth_n 1._o it_o be_v a_o crooked_a insinuation_n to_o put_v the_o word_n power_n instead_o of_o right_n and_o liberty_n as_o if_o power_n of_o consent_v in_o the_o people_n and_o power_n of_o ruler_n be_v univocal_a and_o not_o equivocal_a term_n but_o this_o be_v tolerable_a for_o experience_n have_v convince_v i_o how_o little_a logical_a strictness_n be_v from_o this_o doctor_n to_o be_v expect_v i_o doubt_v lest_o next_o as_o some_o man_n instead_o of_o learning_n maintain_v their_o reputation_n by_o deride_v it_o we_o may_v expect_v some_o such_o defence_n of_o the_o ●_z logic_n to_o prove_v that_o he_o be_v none_o of_o the_o disputer_n of_o this_o world_n who_o deceive_v man_n by_o vain_a philosophy_n 2._o and_o the_o word_n choice_n instead_o of_o consent_n be_v somewhat_o more_o crooked_a for_o choice_n usual_o include_v the_o first_o nominate_v vote_n and_o he_o know_v that_o i_o plead_v for_o the_o necessity_n of_o no_o more_o than_o the_o church_n consent_n though_o it_o be_v subsequent_a to_o the_o choice_n of_o magistrate_n or_o patron_n 3._o but_o the_o next_o be_v worse_a that_o i_o plead_v the_o people_n cause_n against_o magistrate_n patron_n and_o law_n when_o i_o do_v but_o desire_v their_o conjunction_n §_o 2._o his_o repetition_n call_v i_o tedious_o to_o repeat_v the_o state_n of_o the_o controversy_n a_o business_n quite_o below_o he_o i._o i_o have_v oft_o say_v that_o god_n have_v not_o make_v either_o magistrate_n or_o people_n the_o judge_n who_o be_v fit_a to_o be_v and_o shall_v be_v a_o minister_n of_o christ_n in_o general_a but_o the_o ordainer_n and_o the_o person_n himself_o conjunct_a this_o be_v evident_a 1._o from_o scripture_n instance_n of_o all_o that_o be_v ordain_v 2._o from_o the_o nature_n of_o the_o thing_n 1._o who_o be_v suppose_v so_o fit_a to_o judge_v as_o man_n and_o senior_n of_o the_o same_o office_n who_o but_o physician_n be_v fit_a to_o judge_v who_o be_v meet_v to_o be_v a_o license_v physician_n and_o who_o but_o philosopher_n judge_n of_o graduate_n and_o professor_n in_o philosophy_n 2._o and_o no_o man_n can_v make_v i_o a_o minister_n against_o my_o will_n nor_o know_v i_o to_o be_v fit_a if_o i_o know_v myself_o to_o be_v unfit_a §_o 3._o ii_o i_o have_v oft_o say_v that_o the_o supreme_a civil_a governor_n be_v the_o judge_n who_o he_o must_v countenance_v maintain_v and_o tolerate_v the_o proof_n be_v easy_a 1._o because_o to_o do_v it_o be_v his_o work_n and_o every_o man_n must_v be_v a_o discern_a judge_n of_o his_o own_o work_n 2._o because_o it_o be_v a_o public_a act_n of_o government_n and_o he_o be_v the_o chief_a public_a judge_n therein_o §_o 4._o iii_o i_o have_v oft_o say_v that_o the_o disposal_n of_o the_o tithe_n and_o temple_n be_v in_o the_o power_n of_o the_o prince_n and_o patron_n by_o his_o grant_n but_o with_o these_o bound_n 1._o his_o power_n be_v not_o absolute_a but_o under_o christ_n and_o limit_v by_o he_o and_o therefore_o he_o have_v no_o power_n against_o he_o nor_o to_o cross_v his_o law_n or_o to_o contradict_v his_o end_n 2._o if_o the_o tithe_n and_o temple_n be_v give_v only_o for_o public_a teacher_n of_o catechuman_n or_o for_o mere_a lecturer_n the_o magistrate_n must_v dispose_v of_o they_o to_o such_o as_o be_v capable_a of_o that_o office_n 3._o if_o the_o tithe_n and_o temple_n be_v give_v for_o the_o pastor_n of_o the_o church_n the_o magistrate_n be_v bind_v to_o give_v they_o to_o such_o as_o be_v lawful_o call_v to_o be_v such_o pastor_n and_o not_o by_o the_o advantage_n of_o his_o trust_n overthrow_v the_o way_n of_o entrance_n institute_v by_o christ_n 4._o however_o if_o they_o be_v devote_v to_o god_n it_o be_v god_n who_o be_v the_o proprietor_n and_o its_o sacrilege_n to_o alienate_v they_o and_o a_o intolerable_a ill_a disposal_n be_v alienation_n §_o 5._o iv._o i_o have_v oft_o say_v that_o it_o be_v suppose_v that_o their_o ancestor_n gift_n of_o tithe_n or_o glebe_n and_o temple_n be_v the_o reason_n of_o our_o common_a patronage_n and_o present_v power_n the_o will_n of_o the_o dead_a donor_n be_v to_o be_v observe_v and_o their_o gift_n give_v to_o none_o but_o on_o the_o term_n by_o they_o determine_v but_o their_o gift_n be_v suppose_v to_o be_v for_o the_o church_n good_a and_o not_o against_o it_o nor_o have_v they_o any_o power_n on_o pretence_n of_o beneficence_n to_o destroy_v or_o to_o take_v away_o more_o than_o they_o give_v but_o the_o trust_v of_o our_o soul_n conduct_v

one_o have_v be_v the_o generation_n of_o another_o how_o many_o church_n of_o england_n have_v you_o have_v 4._o the_o whole_a nation_n do_v not_o consent_v by_o parliament_n when_o the_o lord_n and_o commons_o vote_v down_o the_o bishop_n and_o liturgy_n be_v there_o then_o no_o national_a church_n 5._o how_o shall_v we_o prove_v that_o the_o whole_a or_o half_o the_o nation_n ever_o mean_v to_o put_v their_o consent_n into_o the_o hand_n of_o the_o parliament_n to_o make_v a_o new_a church_n of_o england_n and_o to_o alter_v it_o 6._o what_o man_n make_v they_o may_v destroy_v may_v not_o the_o nation_n withdraw_v such_o consent_n and_o the_o parliament_n unmake_v their_o creature_n §_o 7._o next_o p._n 300_o he_o say_v the_o representative_a church_n of_o england_n i●_n the_o bishop_n and_o presbyter_n of_o this_o church_n meeting_n according_a to_o the_o law_n of_o the_o realm_n to_o consult_v and_o advise_v about_o 〈◊〉_d of_o religion_n the_o consent_n of_o 〈◊〉_d convocation_n of_o ca●●erbury_n and_o york_n province_n ●●_o the_o representative_a national_a church_n of_o england_n answ_n 1._o so_o here_o we_o have_v a_o diffusive_a church_n and_o its_o representative_a but_o no_o government_n of_o either_o as_o a_o church_n mention_v but_o the_o civil_a 2._o and_o they_o can_v be_v no_o governor_n mere_o as_o represent_v those_o that_o be_v no_o governor_n themselves_o not_o as_o the_o people_n representative_n fo●_n they_o be_v no_o church_n governor_n whatever_o elsewhere_o he_o say_v like_o a_o brownist_n of_o the_o key_n be_v give_v to_o peter_n as_o represent_v the_o whole_a church_n not_o as_o the_o presbyter_n representative_n for_o 1._o they_o be_v deny_v episcopal_a power_n 2._o and_o they_o be_v governor_n at_o most_o but_o of_o their_o particular_a church_n and_o not_o of_o the_o whole_a 3._o not_o as_o the_o bishop_n representative_n for_o 1._o they_o be_v there_o themselves_o 2._o and_o they_o be_v no_o common_a governor_n of_o the_o whole_a as_o such_o 3._o if_o he_o mean_v that_o the_o two_o convocation_n when_o they_o consent_v become_v the_o one_o common_a constitutive_a govern_v power_n of_o the_o national_a church_n this_o be_v intelligible_a but_o 1._o he_o after_o deny_v any_o such_o 2._o and_o then_o their_o dissent_n will_v dissolve_v the_o church_n and_o one_o convocation_n not_o oblige_v it_o with_o much_o more_o such_o §_o 8._o but_o yet_o he_o perceive_v he_o have_v not_o answer_v i_o and_o therefore_o come_v to_o it_o page_z 300_o say_v it_o be_v a_o false_a supposition_n that_o wherever_o there_o be_v the_o true_a notion_n of_o a_o church_n there_o must_v be_v a_o constitutive_a regent_n part_n a_o stand_a govern_v power_n which_o be_v a_o essential_a part_n of_o it_o answ_n a_o true_a notion_n belong_v to_o equivocal_n the_o true_a notion_n and_o the_o proper_a political_a notion_n be_v word_n of_o various_a signification_n i_o have_v grant_v you_o that_o the_o true_a notion_n of_o a_o church_n belong_v to_o a_o shipfull_a a_o prison_n full_a a_o housefull_a of_o christian_n as_o such_o and_o to_o our_o parliament_n and_o to_o the_o common-council_n of_o the_o city_n but_o not_o the_o notion_n now_o in_o question_n 2._o be_v not_o government_n essential_a to_o a_o govern_v church_n fix_a government_n to_o a_o fix_a church_n and_o transient_a temporary_a government_n to_o a_o answerable_a church_n deny_v this_o and_o few_o will_v follow_v you_o §_o 9_o he_o add_v which_o i_o will_v prove_v to_o be_v false_a from_o mr._n b._n himself_o he_o assert_n that_o there_o be_v one_o catholic_n visible_a church_n and_o that_o all_o particular_a church_n head_v by_o their_o particular_a bishop_n or_o pastor_n be_v part_n of_o the_o universal_a church_n as_o a_o troop_n be_v of_o a_o army_n and_o a_o city_n of_o a_o kingdom_n then_o it_o will_v unavoidable_o follow_v that_o there_o must_v be_v a_o catholic_n visible_a head_n to_o a_o catholic_n visible_a church_n and_o so_o mr._n b_n constitutive_a regent_n part_n of_o a_o church_n have_v do_v the_o pope_n a_o wonderful_a kindness_n but_o there_o be_v some_o man_n in_o the_o world_n that_o do_v not_o attend_v the_o advantage_n they_o give_v to_o popery_n so_o they_o may_v but_o vent_v their_o spleen_n against_o the_o church_n of_o england_n but_o do_v not_o mr._n b._n say_v that_o the_o universal_a church_n be_v head_v by_o christ_n i_o grant_v he_o do_v but_o the_o question_n be_v of_o the_o visible_a church_n of_o which_o particular_a church_n be_v part_n and_o they_o be_v visible_a part_n require_v a_o visible_a constitutive_a regent_n head_n therefore_o the_o whole_a visible_a church_n must_v have_v likewise_o a_o constitutive_a visible_a regent_n part_n this_o be_v to_o make_v a_o key_n for_o catholic_n answ_n i_o be_o glad_a he_o speak_v so_o intelligible_o in_o deny_v a_o constitutive_a regent_n part_n though_o sorry_a that_o he_o speak_v so_o ill_o 1._o when_o i_o have_v write_v against_o johnson_n alius_fw-la terrae_fw-la the_o papist_n two_o book_n on_o this_o subject_n especial_o the_o late_a full_o prove_v the_o catholic_n church_n head_v by_o christ_n to_o be_v that_o visible_a church_n catholic_n of_o which_o all_o particular_n be_v member_n can_v the_o reader_n think_v i_o shall_v write_v it_o over_o again_o because_o this_o doctor_n will_v talk_v over_o a_o little_a of_o the_o same_o with_o that_o priest_n and_o take_v no_o notice_n of_o my_o proof_n or_o answer_n 2._o do_v he_o believe_v that_o the_o kingdom_n of_o the_o world_n be_v not_o visible_a part_n of_o god_n universal_a kingdom_n and_o yet_o god_n invisible_a 3._o dare_v he_o say_v that_o all_o true_a church_n be_v not_o real_a part_n of_o christ_n universal_a church_n as_o a_o govern_v body_n and_o yet_o be_v not_o they_o visible_a be_v it_o necessary_a then_o that_o the_o universal_a head_n must_v be_v visible_a if_o the_o subordinate_a be_v so_o 4._o do_v he_o not_o perceive_v that_o he_o turn_v the_o controversy_n from_o the_o necessity_n of_o a_o regent_n head_n to_o the_o necessity_n of_o his_o visibility_n as_o if_o our_o question_n have_v not_o be_v which_o be_v the_o regent_n part_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n but_o whether_o it_o must_v be_v visible_a be_v this_o edify_n 5._o all_o christian_n be_v agree_v that_o the_o universal_a church_n be_v visible_a 1._o in_o its_o part_n and_o member_n on_o earth_n and_o their_o profession_n 2._o in_o that_o christ_n the_o head_n be_v visible_a on_o earth_n 3._o and_o have_v leave_v visible_a universal_a law_n 4._o and_o have_v a_o body_n visible_a in_o heaven_n as_o the_o king_n be_v to_o his_o courtier_n but_o not_o to_o most_o of_o his_o subject_n 5._o and_o will_v short_o visible_o judge_v all_o the_o world_n thus_o far_o and_o no_o further_o save_v as_o see_v extraordinary_o to_o paul_n stephen_n etc._n etc._n be_v the_o universal_a head_n visible_a and_o be_v we_o not_o agree_v that_o this_o be_v a_o real_a and_o most_o excellent_a political_a church_n and_o that_o all_o other_o visible_a church_n be_v part_n of_o it_o something_o beside_o spleen_n make_v some_o man_n talk_v dangerous_o §_o 10._o but_o real_o do_v he_o think_v that_o this_o do_v unavoidable_o set_v up_o the_o pope_n why_o first_o be_v there_o a_o word_n of_o this_o that_o a_o sober_a christian_a dare_v deny_v or_o that_o the_o christian_a world_n do_v not_o common_o consent_v to_o and_o do_v the_o certain_a doctrine_n of_o the_o gospel_n and_o church_n set_v up_o the_o pope_n will_v he_o turn_v papist_n if_o this_o be_v prove_v and_o the_o christian_a world_n be_v not_o deceive_v be_v this_o our_o champion_n against_o popery_n now_o i_o think_v no_o man_n but_o mr._n cheny_n and_o some_o odd_a papist_n have_v be_v of_o this_o opinion_n but_o to_o mr._n cheny_n and_o against_o johnson_n i_o have_v confute_v it_o and_o therefore_o thither_o refer_v the_o reader_n far_o be_v it_o from_o i_o to_o resist_v popery_n by_o deny_v 1._o that_o christ_n church_n thus_o far_o visible_a be_v one_o political_a body_n head_v by_o himself_o 2._o or_o that_o all_o true_a visible_a church_n be_v part_n of_o it_o 3._o or_o that_o every_o political_a govern_v body_n be_v constitute_v of_o the_o regent_n and_o subdite_fw-la part_n christian_n will_v reject_v i_o for_o the_o former_a and_o politician_n deride_v i_o if_o i_o hold_v the_o last_o §_o 11._o he_o proceed_v 2._o the_o plain_a resolution_n be_v that_o we_o deny_v any_o necessity_n of_o any_o such_o regent_n constitutive_a part_n or_o one_o formal_a ecclesiastical_a head_n as_o essential_a to_o a_o national_a church_n for_o a_o national_a consent_n be_v as_o sufficient_a to_o make_v a_o national_a church_n as_o a_o universal_a consent_n to_o make_v a_o catholic_n answ_n no_o consent_n make_v a_o catholic_n church_n but_o consent_v to_o one_o supreme_a head_n christ_n but_o i_o