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A41786 The quæries examined, or, Fifty anti-queries seriously propounded to the people called Presbyterians Occasioned by the publication of Fifty queries, gathered out of the works of Mr. Rich. Baxter. By J. B. Wherein the principal allegations usually brought to support infant-baptism are discovered to be insufficient. By T. G. Grantham, Thomas, 1634-1692. 1676 (1676) Wing G1543A; ESTC R223637 27,933 56

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in_o the_o donation_n at_o all_o and_o have_v not_o infant_n guilt_n and_o misery_n from_o their_o parent_n and_o though_o life_n and_o pardon_n be_v by_o christ_n only_o yet_o be_v it_o not_o congruous_a that_o the_o mere_a condition_n of_o acceptance_n may_v b●_n perform_v by_o the_o parent_n while_o they_o can_v accept_v for_o themselves_o baptist_n antiq._n 38._o whether_o the_o meritoriousness_n of_o christ_n be_v not_o as_o available_a to_o save_v infant_n without_o any_o man_n acceptance_n thereof_o for_o they_o or_o whether_o have_v god_n tie_v the_o salvation_n of_o any_o person_n to_o the_o acceptance_n of_o another_o and_o whether_o these_o be_v not_o unreasonable_a and_o unscriptural_a conceit_n and_o whether_o it_o be_v not_o for_o want_v of_o better_a ground_n for_o infant-baptism_n that_o you_o thus_o continual_o tautologize_v vary_v little_a from_o that_o which_o you_o have_v say_v once_o and_o again_o presbyterian_a query_n 39_o whether_o it_o be_v no_o advantage_n for_o child_n to_o be_v under_o a_o early_a engagement_n to_o god_n and_o jesus_n christ_n whether_o to_o dedicate_v they_o betimes_o to_o god_n do_v not_o tend_v to_o secure_v god_n right_a and_o child_n good_a and_o to_o prevent_v their_o sin_n and_o misery_n they_o be_v thus_o under_o a_o double_a obligation_n which_o they_o may_v be_v mind_v of_o betimes_o and_o which_o may_v hold_v they_o more_o strong_o to_o their_o duty_n and_o disadvantage_n the_o tempter_n that_o will_v draw_v they_o off_o from_o god_n &c_n &c_n baptist_n antiqu._n 39_o who_o be_v against_o as_o early_a a_o engagement_n of_o child_n to_o god_n as_o can_v lawful_o be_v make_v and_o do_v not_o the_o baptist_n engage_v their_o child_n to_o god_n as_o soon_o as_o they_o can_v by_o prayer_n and_o supplication_n while_o infant_n and_o then_o by_o the_o best_a education_n they_o be_v able_a when_o docible_a but_o whether_o any_o thing_n be_v do_v to_o purpose_n in_o your_o judgement_n when_o yet_o all_o be_v do_v that_o can_v be_v do_v unless_o it_o be_v rantize_v in_o your_o way_n and_o whether_o it_o be_v not_o better_a to_o leave_v the_o event_n of_o their_o accept_n baptism_n to_o the_o wise_a dispose_n of_o god_n then_o to_o do_v it_o per_fw-mi force_n in_o infancy_n without_o precept_n from_o god_n also_o whether_o the_o infant-baptism_n be_v such_o a_o mean_n to_o propagate_v religion_n as_o you_o suppose_v may_v be_v see_v when_o you_o consider_v how_o in_o the_o darkness_n of_o popery_n pedobaptism_n be_v more_o common_a than_o now_o but_o christianity_n much_o less_o and_o name_v one_o if_o you_o can_v that_o be_v better_v in_o christian_a virtue_n by_o pedobaptism_n we_o think_v we_o can_v name_v one_o and_o that_o yourself_o which_o be_v worse_o for_o it_o for_o have_v you_o not_o that_o to_o rest_v on_o you_o will_v probable_o desire_v to_o put_v on_o christ_n in_o baptism_n whether_o it_o be_v not_o the_o fit_a time_n to_o be_v bury_v with_o christ_n in_o baptism_n when_o we_o be_v dead_a with_o he_o from_o the_o rudiment_n of_o the_o world_n or_o whether_o it_o be_v reasonable_a to_o bury_v sinner_n therein_o till_o they_o be_v dead_a to_o sin_n and_o whether_o it_o can_v profit_v any_o person_n to_o be_v baptize_v unless_o he_o have_v the_o answer_n of_o a_o good_a conscience_n by_o the_o resurrection_n of_o christ_n from_o the_o dead_a 1_o pet._n 3._o therein_o presbyterian_a query_n 40._o whether_o it_o can_v be_v prove_v that_o ever_o there_o be_v one_o age_n or_o church_n particular_a on_o earth_n since_o adam_n till_o about_o 200_o year_n ago_o that_o the_o anabaptist_n rose_n wherein_o infant_n de_fw-la facto_fw-la be_v not_o member_n of_o the_o church_n baptist_n antiqu._n 40._o whether_o in_o your_o sense_n of_o make_v infant_n member_n of_o the_o church_n de_fw-fr facto_fw-la it_o can_v be_v prove_v there_o be_v any_o one_o so_o make_v a_o member_n from_o the_o begin_n of_o the_o world_n till_o abraham_n time_n and_o whether_o john_n baptist_n christ_n or_o any_o by_o his_o order_n do_v receive_v infant_n into_o the_o church_n de_fw-fr facto_fw-la and_o whether_o the_o baptist_n do_v not_o better_o prove_v the_o antiquity_n of_o their_o faith_n and_o practice_n in_o baptism_n then_o any_o aedo_fw-la baptist_n in_o the_o world_n and_o do_v not_o your_o conscience_n tell_v you_o that_o the_o baptism_n of_o man_n and_o woman_n upon_o profession_n of_o faith_n and_o repentance_n be_v beyond_o the_o reach_n of_o contradiction_n while_o m._n baxter_n himself_o confess_v infant-baptism_n to_o be_v so_o difficult_a that_o many_o of_o its_o assertor_n both_o protestant_n and_o papist_n be_v force_v to_o confess_v it_o can_v be_v prove_v by_o the_o scripture_n see_v his_o cure_n p._n 7._o and_o see_v you_o and_o we_o be_v general_o agree_v that_o our_o way_n both_o for_o subject_n and_o manner_n be_v out_o of_o dispute_n clear_a in_o the_o scripture_n and_o you_o confess_v by_o the_o pen_n of_o mr._n baxter_n that_o you_o be_v very_o difficult_a be_v it_o not_o reason_v the_o difficult_a way_n shall_v give_v place_n to_o the_o clear_a and_o evident_a way_n presbyterian_a query_n 41._o whether_o it_o can_v be_v prove_v that_o ever_o there_o be_v any_o one_o infant_n of_o true_a church-member_n that_o be_v not_o rightful_o a_o church-member_n himself_o from_o the_o creation_n till_o christ_n day_n or_o from_o the_o creation_n till_o this_o day_n except_o the_o anabaptist_n who_o reject_v the_o benefit_n who_o case_n we_o will_v not_o presume_v to_o determine_v baptist_n antiqu._n 41._o whether_o this_o query_n be_v not_o the_o same_o we_o have_v before_o and_o whether_o what_o be_v say_v to_o it_o may_v not_o also_o suffiee_n to_o this_o presbyterian_a query_n 42._o see_v that_o infant_n have_v be_v de_fw-la facto_fw-la church-member_n from_o the_o creation_n to_o this_o day_n as_o far_o as_o any_o record_n can_v lead_v we_o be_v it_o likely_a that_o the_o lord_n and_o head_n and_o all-sufficient_a governor_n of_o his_o church_n will_v have_v permit_v his_o church_n till_o now_o to_o be_v actual_o make_v up_o of_o such_o subject_n as_o in_o regard_n of_o age_n be_v disallow_v and_o suffer_v his_o church_n to_o be_v wrong_n frame_v till_o now_o or_o be_v it_o a_o reasonable_a modest_a and_o lawful_a undertake_n to_o go_v about_o now_o in_o the_o end_n of_o the_o world_n to_o make_v god_n a_o new_a frame_v church_n as_o to_o the_o age_n of_o the_o subject_n and_o be_v it_o not_o more_o modest_a and_o safe_a to_o live_v quiet_o in_o a_o church_n of_o that_o frame_n as_o all_o the_o saint_n of_o heaven_n live_v in_o till_o the_o other_o day_n as_o a_o few_o anabaptist_n do_v attempt_v a_o alteration_n baptist_n antiqu._n 42._o whether_o it_o be_v not_o utter_o untrue_a that_o infant_n be_v member_n of_o the_o church_n de_fw-fr facto_fw-la i.e._n to_o be_v bring_v to_o partake_v of_o ordinance_n practical_a in_o the_o church_n save_v only_o from_o abraham_n to_o the_o end_n of_o the_o law_n and_o whether_o all_o the_o pedobaptist_n in_o the_o world_n have_v not_o hitherto_o be_v unable_a to_o show_v any_o one_o instance_n before_o abraham_n or_o since_o the_o law_n be_v abrogate_a so_o much_o as_o one_o infant_n admit_v to_o any_o such_o ordinance_n in_o the_o church_n of_o ●od_n according_a to_o what_o the_o scripture_n afford_v in_o thi●_n 〈◊〉_d and_o ●●●her_o it_o be_v not_o as_o modest_a in_o we_o to_o labour_v to_o restore_v baptism_n to_o its_o pure_a use_n in_o the_o church_n both_o in_o respect_n of_o the_o subject_n and_o manner_n of_o administration_n thereof_o as_o it_o be_v for_o the_o protestant_n to_o do_v the_o like_a in_o respect_n of_o the_o lord_n supper_n also_o whether_o your_o pretend_v the_o authority_n of_o the_o universal_a church_n be_v not_o the_o same_o figment_n with_o which_o the_o papist_n deceive_v themselves_o and_o other_o and_o how_o can_v you_o pretend_v the_o universal_a church_n when_o the_o primitive_a church_n be_v on_o our_o side_n presbyterian_a query_n 43._o whether_o consider_v christ_n own_a infant-mem●●rship_a and_o his_o kind_a reception_n of_o infant_n and_o his_o chide_v those_o that_o will_v have_v keep_v they_o off_o and_o his_o offer_n of_o take_v in_o all_o the_o jewish_a nation_n matth._n 23._o 37._o and_o that_o they_o be_v break_v off_o by_o unbelief_n and_o consequent_o the_o seed_n of_o believer_n break_v off_o from_o the_o church_n universal_a and_o that_o whole_a household_n be_v oft_o say_v to_o be_v baptize_v and_o that_o paul_n pronounce_v believer_n child_n holy_a and_o that_o christ_n mat._n 28._o command_v his_o minister_n as_o much_o as_o in_o they_o lie_v to_o disciple_v all_o nation_n baptise_v they_o &_o c_o baptist_n antiqu._n 43._o whether_o christ_n infant_n church-membership_a do_v not_o pertain_v to_o the_o jewish_a church_n only_o gal._n 4._o 4._o bear_v under_o the_o law_n only_o etc
a_o infant_n of_o the_o woman_n be_v not_o promise_v to_o be_v general_n and_o head_n of_o the_o church_n and_o whether_o the_o promise_n of_o a_o infant_n head_n do_v not_o declare_v god_n mind_n that_o he_o will_v have_v infant_n member_n because_o the_o head_n be_v the_o principal_a member_n etc._n etc._n baptist_n antiquery_n 6._o whether_o christ_n in_o his_o infancy_n be_v not_o as_o true_o god_n as_o man_n and_o whether_o there_o be_v any_o parity_n between_o the_o infant_n you_o speak_v of_o and_o christ_n see_v he_o be_v able_a even_o then_o to_o vanquish_v the_o great_a adversary_n and_o if_o by_o the_o redeem_a church_n you_o mean_v the_o whole_a number_n of_o the_o save_v who_o doubt_v but_o infant_n be_v of_o the_o redeem_a church_n but_o how_o do_v it_o follow_v that_o all_o that_o be_v to_o be_v save_v aught_o to_o be_v mit_v to_o practical_a ordinance_n in_o the_o visible_a church_n see_v then_o all_o infant_n for_o aught_o you_o know_v have_v the_o same_o right_n which_o yet_o you_o deny_v but_o why_o so_o be_v you_o sure_o they_o be_v not_o within_o the_o verge_n of_o christ_n redemption_n and_o though_o christ_n be_v once_o a_o infant_n yet_o where_o do_v you_o find_v tha●_n he_o be_v then_o a_o member_n of_o the_o gospel_n church_n be_v he_o not_o bear_v under_o the_o l●w_n gal._n 4_o 4._o and_o bear_v king_n of_o the_o jew_n mat._n 2_o 2._o and_o according_a to_o the_o state_n of_o the_o jewish_a church_n a_o infant_n may_v be_v both_o a_o member_n and_o a_o prince_n and_o be_v not_o the_o kingly_a office_n in_o israel_n a_o type_n of_o christ_n but_o what_o be_v this_o to_o he_o order_n and_o state_n of_o the_o church_n under_o the_o gospel_n and_o far_o tho●gh_a christ_n a_o infant_n be_v bo●n_o head_n of_o the_o church_n as_o aforesaid_a yet_o in_o 〈◊〉_d infant_n st●te_n he_o do_v not_o intermeddle_v with_o the_o exercise_n of_o the_o least_o par●_n of_o h●s_n authority_n and_o then_o whether_o it_o be_v not_o more_o rational_a to_o say_v that_o see_v christ_n the_o head_n of_o the_o church_n do_v not_o actual_o possess_v or_o at_o least_o not_o use_v any_o part_n of_o that_o power_n as_o a_o infant_n or_o while_o he_o be_v a_o infant_n it_o be_v therefore_o unreasonable_a th●t_a infant_n supposn_a ●h●y_n be_v as_o true_o bo●n_v member_n of_o his_o church_n as_o he_o wa●_n bear_v king_n of_o the_o jew_n shall_v be_v concern_v in_o the_o actual_a possession_n of_o ordinance_n in_o infancy_n and_o what_o if_o we_o grant_v that_o infant_n may_v be_v disciple_n by_o designation_n a_o christ_n be_v king_n priest_n and_o prophet_n by_o designation_n ●ho●gh_o the_o case_n not_o alike_o easy_a to_o prove_v yet_o see_v christ_n be_v not_o a_o prophet_n as_o you_o confess_v in_o actu_fw-la exercito_fw-la how_o come_v you_o to_o be_v so_o bold_a to_o bring_v infant_n to_o the_o ex●rcise_n of_o baptism_n and_o why_o can_v you_o not_o rather_o content_v yourselves_o with_o the_o designation_n or_o dedication_n of_o your_o ●_z 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true_a religion_n and_o suppose_v that_o the_o infant_n of_o godly_a parent_n be_v in_o some_o sense_n more_o immediate_o relate_v to_o the_o church_n than_o the_o infant_n of_o pagan_n by_o reason_n of_o the_o prayer_n and_o designation_n of_o their_o parent_n and_o the_o opportunity_n of_o education_n yet_o what_o make_v this_o for_o any_o actual_a participation_n of_o ordinance_n in_o the_o church_n and_o what_o one_o ordinance_n do_v the_o infant_n of_o these_o son_n of_o god_n partake_v of_o and_o sith_o the_o scripture_n be_v whole_o silent_a of_o any_o such_o thing_n whether_o this_o do_v not_o more_o strong_o conclude_v against_o infant-baptism_n then_o for_o it_o and_o whether_o it_o be_v needful_a to_o say_v any_o thing_n to_o the_o latter_a part_n of_o this_o query_n see_v we_o grant_v all_o and_o something_o more_o than_o this_o text_n will_v prove_v though_o we_o deny_v they_o actual_a right_n to_o ordinance_n and_o whether_o the_o common_a or_o equal_a overthrow_n of_o these_o generation_n in_o respect_n of_o the_o infant_n of_o both_o do_v not_o evident_o show_v that_o as_o to_o the_o business_n of_o their_o salvation_n they_o be_v in_o the_o same_o condition_n and_o then_o whether_o it_o be_v safe_a for_o we_o to_o conclude_v that_o the_o wickedness_n of_o any_o progenitor_n have_v any_o further_a effect_n upon_o the_o infant-ch●ldren_a then_o to_o expose_v they_o to_o external_a calamity_n see_v christ_n die_v to_o redeem_v they_o from_o the_o condemnation_n bring_v upon_o they_o by_o adam_n rom._n 5._o 18._o presbyterian_a query_n 8._o whether_o it_o be_v not_o the_o same_o church_n be●or●_n and_o after_o abraham_n time_n that_o be_v call_v the_o tent_n of_o sem_fw-mi gen._n 19_o 27._o be_v not_o the_o jewish_a church_n denominate_v the_o tent_n of_o sem_fw-mi a●d_a do_v it_o not_o hence_o appear_v that_o the_o church-priviledge_n of_o that_o people_n do_v not_o begin_v with_o or_o from_o abraham_n but_o that_o they_o be_v b●for●_n and_o how_o be_v it_o the_o same_o church_n that_o be_v of_o s●m_n and_o of_o abraham_n if_o it_o have_v not_o the_o same_o sort_n of_o member_n or_o material_n etc._n etc._n baptist_n antiqu._n 8._o though_o it_o be_v true_a that_o the_o church_n be_v the_o same_o in_o some_o sense_n from_o the_o begin_n of_o the_o world_n to_o the_o end_n yet_o whether_o it_o may_v not_o true_o be_v say_v also_o not_o to_o be_v the_o same_o in_o divers_a respect_n and_o whether_o the_o cou●nant_n as_o make_v with_o no●h_n gen._n 9_o do_v not_o differ_v from_o the_o cou●nant_n as_o ma●e_n w●th_v adam_n though_o both_o be_v make_v with_o all_o mankind_n and_o be_v affirm_v to_o be_v the_o covenant_n of_o grace_n by_o mr._n baxter_n and_o whether_o there_o be_v not_o yet_o a_o further_a difference_n between_o these_o and_o the_o covenant_n as_o make_v with_o abraham_n gen._n 17._o the_o former_a be_v make_v with_o all_o mank_n and_o never_o yet_o abrogate_a as_o say_v mr._n baxter_n the_o other_o be_v make_v with_o abraham_n and_o his_o seed_n distinct_a from_o the_o rest_n of_o mankind_n but_o as_o they_o shall_v be_v profelit_v thereto_o and_o though_o the_o church_n may_v be_v denominate_v the_o tent_n of_o shem_n b●th_v before_o and_o after_o abraham_n yet_o whether_o this_o conclude_v there_o be_v to_o be_v no_o alteration_n of_o the_o state_n of_o the_o church_n under_o these_o time_n respective_o and_o whether_o in_o any_o of_o the_o tent_n of_o shem_n before_o abraham_n time_n so_o much_o as_o any_o one_o infant_n can_v be_v find_v admit_v to_o the_o practical_a part_n of_o any_o ordinance_n in_o the_o church_n which_o be_v peculiar_a to_o she_o as_o such_o for_o as_o touch_v prayer_n it_o be_v a_o moral_a duty_n and_o to_o be_v make_v for_o all_o man_n and_o whether_o thus_o
query_n 15._o be_v it_o not_o then_o the_o duty_n of_o all_o the_o nation_n round_o about_o that_o can_v have_v information_n of_o the_o jewish_a religion_n to_o engage_v themselves_o and_o their_o child_n to_o god_n by_o circumcision_n and_o do_v not_o many_o of_o the_o people_n in_o hester_n time_n become_v jew_n hest_n 8._o 17._o who_o yet_o be_v not_o under_o their_o government_n and_o be_v it_o not_o well_o know_v that_o this_o be_v to_o be_v circumcise_v they_o and_o their_o little_a one_o as_o the_o proselyte_n be_v and_o so_o to_o keep_v the_o law_n of_o moses_n and_o whether_o the_o circumcise_a servant_n of_o israel_n sell_v away_o to_o another_o nation_n and_o so_o separate_v from_o the_o civil_a state_n of_o israel_n do_v eo_fw-la nomine_fw-la cease_v to_o be_v church-member_n though_o they_o for_o sook_v not_o god_n and_o ●o_o of_o the_o infant_n if_o they_o be_v sell_v in_o infancy_n and_o so_o whether_o infant_n may_v not_o be_v church-member_n that_o be_v not_o of_o the_o jew_n commonwealth_n baptist_n antiqu._n 15._o although_o other_o nation_n have_v the_o liberty_n to_o become_v jew_n yet_o whether_o they_o be_v under_o such_o a_o obligation_n as_o that_o they_o must_v become_v jew_n or_o else_o not_o be_v save_v be_v worthy_a consideration_n and_o whether_o the_o contrary_a will_v not_o be_v find_v true_a when_o the_o case_n of_o cornelius_n act._n 10._o and_o of_o the_o gentile_n rom._n 2._o be_v due_o consider_v whereas_o the_o one_o be_v accept_v as_o fear_v god_n and_o work_a righteousness_n as_o much_o as_o the_o jew_n upon_o the_o account_n of_o his_o jewish_a worship_n and_o the_o other_o gentile_n general_o who_o do_v by_o nature_n the_o thing_n contain_v in_o the_o law_n be_v count_v the_o circumcision_n so_o as_o to_o judge_v the_o jew_n who_o only_o have_v the_o circumcision_n in_o the_o flesh_n and_o not_o only_o so_o but_o so_o as_o to_o be_v accept_v of_o god_n as_o far_o at_o least_o as_o the_o righteousness_n of_o the_o law_n will_v avail_v the_o jew_n and_o whether_o the_o infant_n of_o these_o devout_a gentile_n be_v not_o free_a from_o any_o obligation_n to_o circumcision_n or_o any_o other_o external_a ceremony_n and_o whether_o there_o be_v not_o a_o evident_a difference_n between_o the_o law_n and_o the_o gospel_n in_o this_o the_o one_o be_v fit_v to_o the_o jewish_a nation_n only_o so_o as_o to_o be_v capable_a of_o a_o orderly_a observation_n there_o only_o and_o the_o gospel_n fit_v sor_n the_o observation_n of_o all_o nation_n equal_o and_o consequent_o all_o nation_n equal_o oblige_v to_o the_o full_a and_o orderly_a profession_n thereof_o presbyterian_a query_n 16._o be_v not_o the_o israelite_n child_n member_n of_o the_o universal_a visible_a church_n as_o well_o as_o of_o the_o congregation_n of_o israel_n as_o he_o that_o be_v a_o member_n of_o the_o city_n be_v a_o member_n of_o the_o kingdom_n and_o a_o part_n of_o a_o part_n be_v a_o part_n of_o the_o whole_a so_o be_v not_o ever_o member_n of_o the_o jew_n church_n also_o a_o member_n of_o god_n universal_a church_n baptist_n ant._n 16._o whether_o it_o be_v well_o say_v to_o call_v the_o universal_a church_n visible_a and_o whether_o the_o universal_a church_n do_v not_o contain_v many_o thousand_o such_o as_o job_n cornelius_n &c_n &c_n who_o be_v neither_o jew_n by_o nature_n nor_o religion_n and_o whether_o no_o infant_n may_v be_v say_v to_o be_v member_n of_o the_o universal_a church_n who_o be_v not_o member_n of_o the_o jewish_a church_n and_o if_o not_o how_o shall_v they_o be_v save_v see_v christ_n be_v only_o the_o saviour_n of_o his_o body_n final_o presbyterian_a query_n 17._o be_v there_o ever_o any_o true_a church_n or_o ecclesiastical_a worship_a society_n appoint_v by_o god_n in_o all_o the_o world_n since_o the_o fall_n but_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n be_v not_o infant_n therefore_o either_o member_n of_o christ_n church_n or_o of_o no_o church_n of_o god_n institution_n be_v not_o moses_n christ_n usher_n and_o moses_n church_n and_o christ_n church_n one_o according_a to_o god_n institution_n baptist_n antiqu._n 17._o whether_o this_o query_n be_v not_o either_o captious_a or_o else_o impertinent_a for_o though_o it_o shall_v be_v grant_v that_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n be_v the_o same_o in_o some_o sense_n from_o the_o beginning_n yet_o who_o know_v not_o that_o the_o time_n and_o way_n for_o admission_n of_o the_o member_n thereof_o to_o external_a ceremony_n be_v not_o always_o the_o same_o and_o who_o doubt_v but_o the_o church_n be_v always_o of_o god_n institution_n but_o do_v it_o therefore_o follow_v that_o the_o ordinance_n institute_v therein_o belong_v to_o infant_n may_v they_o not_o have_v the_o passeover_n as_o well_o as_o circumcision_n in_o the_o moysaicall_a church_n and_o yet_o have_v neither_o the_o lord_n supper_n nor_o baptism_n in_o the_o christian_a church_n you_o deny_v they_o the_o one_o why_o may_v not_o we_o as_o well_o deny_v the_o other_o baptist_n query_n 18._o whether_o be_v abraham_n make_v a_o member_n of_o the_o church_n by_o circumcision_n or_o circumcise_v because_o a_o member_n of_o the_o church_n the_o like_a of_o infant_n bear_v in_o his_o house_n and_o how_o can_v the_o cease_n of_o circumcision_n prove_v infant_n church-membership_n cease_v any_o more_o than_o it_o can_v prove_v their_o church-membership_n begin_v with_o circumcision_n or_o that_o woman_n be_v not_o church-member_n because_o not_o circumcise_v or_o that_o all_o israel_n be_v unchurch_v in_o the_o wilderness_n when_o they_o be_v uncircumcised_a for_o forty_o year_n baptist_n antiqu._n 18._o although_o abraham_n be_v in_o the_o church_n of_o god_n essential_o by_o faith_n yet_o whether_o formal_o in_o that_o church-st●te_a which_o god_n be_v then_o about_o to_o settle_v till_o circumcise_v will_v not_o i_o suppose_v be_v hasty_o affirm_v and_o how_o can_v infant_n be_v say_v to_o be_v in_o the_o church_n as_o abraham_n then_o be_v see_v they_o have_v no_o faith_n as_o he_o have_v and_o whether_o the_o jewish_a church-state_n do_v not_o cease_v de_fw-fr jure_fw-la when_o circumcision_n so_o cease_v and_o then_o whether_o that_o state_n of_o infant_n church-membership_n do_v not_o also_o cease_v and_o like_v as_o the_o cease_n of_o the_o passeover_n de_fw-fr jure_fw-la be_v the_o cease_n of_o infant_n right_a to_o any_o such_o ordinance_n even_o so_o we_o ask_v why_o the_o cease_n of_o circumcision_n de_fw-fr jure_fw-la be_v not_o as_o true_o the_o ceasation_n of_o infant_n right_a to_o any_o such_o ordinance_n certain_o if_o god_n word_n assign_v any_o ordinance_n in_o lieu_n of_o the_o former_a the_o place_n where_o it_o be_v write_v will_v have_v b●en_o know_v to_o this_o day_n presbyterian_a query_n 19_o whether_o the_o blessing_n of_o abraham_n consist_v not_o chief_o in_o this_o that_o god_n promise_v to_o be_v a_o god_n in_o covenant_n with_o he_o and_o his_o seed_n and_o how_o be_v the_o believe_a gentile_n bless_v with_o faithful_a abraham_n and_o heir_n of_o the_o same_o promise_n if_o their_o infant_n be_v not_o also_o comprehend_v in_o the_o same_o covenant_n baptist_n antiqu._n 19_o whether_o the_o blessing_n of_o abraham_n if_o you_o understand_v it_o of_o eternal_a life_n be_v not_o the_o blessing_n of_o the_o father_n that_o be_v before_o he_o and_o whether_o that_o blessing_n do_v not_o belong_v to_o their_o infant_n and_o whether_o their_o infant_n be_v partaker_n with_o they_o in_o any_o rite_n or_o ceremony_n of_o institute_v worship_n and_o if_o not_o then_o why_o may_v not_o the_o infant_n of_o the_o gentile_n partake_v of_o the_o blessing_n of_o abraham_n though_o not_o concern_v in_o rite_n or_o ceremony_n or_o whether_o you_o think_v the_o blessing_n of_o abraham_n be_v confine_v to_o ceremony_n in_o respect_n of_o infant_n if_o so_o show_v we_o what_o ceremony_n these_o be_v presbyterian_a query_n 20._o whether_o in_o that_o great_a promise_n gen._n 12._o 3_o tribe_n kindred_n family_n do_v not_o most_o certain_o comprehend_v infant_n as_o it_o be_v to_o such_o family_n that_o the_o promise_n be_v make_v before_o christ_n as_o to_o the_o jewish_a church_n what_o warrant_n have_v we_o to_o understand_v family_n or_o tribe_n otherwise_o when_o the_o same_o promise_n be_v make_v to_o the_o gentile_n baptist_n antiq._n 20._o whether_o you_o ought_v not_o to_o distinguish_v in_o this_o great_a promise_n the_o thing_n which_o be_v eternal_a from_o the_o thing_n that_o be_v but_o for_o a_o time_n and_o then_o whether_o you_o can_v ima●in●_n that_o all_o the_o temporal_a blessing_n rite_n and_o ceremony_n ●oncern●d_v any_o nation_n as_o it_o concern_v the_o seed_n of_o abraham_n after_o the_o flesh_n but_o if_o by_o this_o promise_v you_o understand_v it_o as_o the_o apostle_n paul_n do_v gal._n 3._o 16._o th●n_n we_o doubt_v not_o but_o all_o the_o kindred_n of_o the_o
earth_n be_v con●●●ned_v in_o it_o and_o than_o whether_o we_o do_v not_o sufficient_o comprise_v the_o gentiles_n therein_o but_o how_o can_v abraham_n rite_n and_o ceremony_n be_v part_n of_o this_o blessing_n to_o the_o gentile_n which_o be_v abrogate_a long_o ago_o presbyterian_a query_n 21_o whether_o the_o second_o commandment_n exod._n 20_o 5_o 6._o do_v not_o contain_v a_o stand_a promise_n and_o discovery_n of_o god_n resolution_n concern_v the_o child_n of_o all_o that_o love_v he_o whether_o jew_n or_o gentile_n to_o who_o this_o commandment_n belong_v whether_o god_n mean_v not_o that_o his_o retribution_n to_o parent_n that_o love_v or_o hate_v he_o shall_v extend_v to_o their_o child_n as_o such_o unless_o they_o interrupt_v it_o at_o age_n by_o their_o own_o act_n and_o if_o to_o their_o child_n qua_fw-la tale_n then_o whether_o not_o to_o infant_n baptist_n ant._n 21._o whoever_o doubt_v but_o that_o infant_n be_v advantage_v many_o way_n in_o the_o blessing_n which_o god_n bestow_v on_o they_o that_o fear_v he_o and_o according_o great_o disadvantage_v by_o the_o wickednef_n of_o their_o pa●●nts_n even_o so_o as_o to_o bear_v their_o father_n iniquity_n many_o time_n as_o be_v evident_a in_o the_o overthrow_n of_o the_o old_a world_n the_o city_n of_o sodom_n and_o samorrah_n etc._n etc._n yet_o whether_o the_o blessing_n or_o mercy_n of_o eternal_a life_n to_o infant_n depend_v upon_o the_o parent_n love_v to_o god_n and_o whether_o the_o damnation_n of_o infant_n depend_v on_o the_o wickedness_n of_o their_o parent_n ●nd_v whether_o the_o blessing_n of_o the_o second_o commandment_n belong_v 〈◊〉_d to_o the_o church_n as_o such_o or_o whether_o all_o man_n that_o follow_v the_o ●ules_n of_o morality_n be_v not_o within_o the_o reach_n of_o these_o blessing_n also_o ●nd_v then_o how_o shall_v infant_n church_n membership_n and_o baptifm_n be_v 〈◊〉_d blessing_n of_o the_o second_o commandment_n see_v this_o law_n concern_v 〈◊〉_d man_n as_o m●n_z be_v part_n of_o the_o moral_a law_n and_o be_v not_o proper_a to_o ●he_v church_n only_o presbyterian_a query_n 22._o whether_o any_o without_o the_o church_n be_v secure_v of_o god_n mercy_n by_o promise_n and_o whether_o mercy_n be_v not_o promise_v to_o the_o child_n of_o the_o f●ithsul_n as_o such_o see_v p●al_n 102._o 28._o and_o 103._o 17._o prov._n 20._o 7._o isa_n 61._o 8_o 9_o and_o 65_o 23_o &c_n &c_n baptist_n antiqu._n 22._o whether_o god_n have_v not_o say_v that_o his_o way_n be_v all_o equal_a and_o whether_o this_o do_v not_o secure_a infant_n of_o god_n mercy_n though_o not_o baptize_v for_o otherwise_o we_o say_v infant_n be_v of_o the_o redeem_a church_n when_o god_n say_v that_o the_o son_n shall_v not_o bear_v the_o iniquity_n of_o the_o father_n and_o every_o one_o shall_v bear_v his_o own_o iniquity_n whether_o this_o be_v not_o a_o promise_v of_o mercy_n to_o infant_n child_n and_o that_o in_o respect_n of_o eternal_a life_n and_o whether_o the_o query_n be_v not_o near_o a_o kin_n to_o that_o position_n of_o the_o papist_n when_o they_o say_v out_o of_o the_o church_n there_o be_v no_o salvation_n restrain_v that_o word_n church_n to_o visible_a or_o actual_a professor_n only_o and_o why_o must_v these_o five_o quotation_n be_v apply_v to_o infant_n only_o since_o the_o thing_n speak_v of_o these_o child_n seed_n or_o offspring_n be_v most_o such_o as_o be_v exclusive_a of_o infant_n presbyterian_a query_n 23._o whether_o these_o promise_n in_o the_o make_n of_o they_o be_v limit_v to_o a_o certain_a time_n when_o they_o be_v to_o cease_v or_o whether_o they_o have_v be_v since_o revoke_v baptist_n suppose_v these_o promise_n yet_o remain_v as_o we_o doubt_v not_o but_o they_o do_v since_o they_o be_v not_o entail_v upon_o the_o jewish_a nation_n at_o least_o the_o three_o first_o quotation_n how_o will_v this_o avail_n to_o the_o point_n in_o hand_n be_v all_o the_o blessing_n of_o god_n to_o the_o infant_n offspring_n of_o those_o that_o fear_v he_o etc._n etc._n bind_v up_o in_o your_o suppose_a church-membership_a and_o baptism_n presbyterian_a query_n 24._o if_o it_o be_v on_o the_o jew_n rejection_n of_o christ_n that_o they_o be_v break_v off_o from_o be_v god_n people_n be_v those_o thousand_o of_o jew_n that_o believe_v in_o christ_n so_o break_v off_o if_o not_o then_o whether_o be_v not_o the_o child_n of_o all_o believe_a jew_n church-member_n in_o infancy_n or_o otherwise_o be_v it_o not_o somewhat_o else_o then_o unbelief_n that_o break_v they_o off_o baptist_n antiqu._n 24._o whether_o be_v those_o that_o cry_v his_o blood_n be_v upon_o we_o and_o our_o child_n thereby_o reject_v the_o great_a mess●nger_n of_o the_o covenant_n ●ustly_o break_v off_o and_o whether_o the_o rent_v of_o the_o veil_n of_o the_o temple_n do_v not_o show_v the_o abrogation_n of_o the_o covenant_n and_o the_o legal_a ministry_n whether_o be_v saul_n break_v off_o when_o he_o persecute_v the_o church_n cause_v many_o to_o blaspheme_v and_o how_o can_v the_o jew_n lawful_o be_v marry_v to_o christ_n if_o moses_n be_v not_o now_o remove_v without_o be_v call_v a_o adulteress_n and_o then_o whether_o those_o thousand_o of_o jew_n which_o believe_v be_v not_o first_o break_v off_o so_o as_o to_o plead_v no_o long_o upon_o this_o issue_n we_o be_v abraham_n child_n we_o be_v freeborn_a etc._n etc._n and_o to_o look_v upon_o circumcision_n and_o whatsoever_o be_v gain_v to_o they_o on_o a_o legal_a acco●nt_n to_o be_v loss_n for_o christ_n or_o be_v there_o any_o other_o way_n to_o be_v graff_v in_o to_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n but_o by_o faith_n nowtherefore_o see_v the_o jew_n be_v in_o no_o better_a case_n than_o th●_n gentiles_n circumcision_n be_v now_o nothing_o even_o as_o uncircumcision_n be_v nothing_o b●ta_o new_a creature_n then_o whether_o all_o the_o infant_n of_o the_o jew_n now_o ceas●●_n to_o be_v member_n of_o any_o visible_a church_n see_v ●heir_a parent_n have_v the_o jure_v lose_v their_o membership_n presbyterian_a query_n 25._o be_v not_o the_o infant_n of_o the_o christian_a jew_n the_o day_n before_o their_o conversion_n member_n of_o the_o jewish_a church_n and_o of_o god_n universal_a church_n of_o which_o the_o jew_n be_v but_o a_o part_n and_o do_v it_o not_o sound_v strenge_o that_o such_o infant_n as_o be_v the_o day_n before_o member_n of_o the_o jewish_a church_n and_o of_o god_n universal_a church_n shall_v be_v put_v out_o of_o the_o jewish_a and_o the_o whole_a visible_a church_n by_o the_o faith_n of_o their_o parent_n or_o without_o unbelief_n either_o it_o be_v a_o mercy_n to_o be_v a_o member_n of_o the_o church_n or_o not_o if_o it_o be_v no_o mercy_n then_o will_v it_o not_o follow_v that_o the_o unbelieve_a jew_n lose_v nothing_o by_o be_v break_v off_o if_o it_o be_v a_o mercy_n how_o do_v the_o christian_n child_n forfeit_v it_o baptist_n antiqu._n 25._o whether_o we_o have_v not_o sufficient_o show_v that_o the_o infant_n of_o the_o jew_n be_v now_o no_o member_n of_o the_o jewish_a church_n that_o be_v now_o abrogate_a and_o the_o gospel_n church_n state_n confirm_v by_o the_o death_n of_o christ_n and_o the_o pour_v out_o of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n neither_o can_v two_o distinct_a church_n state_n stand_v together_o de_fw-la jure_fw-la and_o then_o whether_o it_o be_v not_o a_o great_a mistake_n for_o the_o q●aerist_n to_o suppose_v the_o jew_n be_v a_o part_n of_o god_n universal_a church_n when_o in_o truth_n they_o be_v no_o church_n at_o all_o and_o therefore_o whether_o the_o wonder_n which_o he_o make_v about_o the_o jew_n infant_n which_o believe_v be_v not_o groundless_a and_o yet_o whether_o the_o infant_n of_o the_o believe_a jew_n be_v not_o in_o a_o far_o better_a estate_n then_o when_o their_o parent_n be_v unbeliever_n since_o the_o curse_n they_o then_o have_v imprecate_v be_v now_o remove_v also_o whether_o it_o be_v not_o a_o mercy_n that_o both_o parent_n and_o infant_n be_v set_v free_a from_o circumcision_n which_o whatever_n it_o be_v before_o now_o cease_v to_o be_v a_o mercy_n to_o any_o man_n because_o it_o be_v a_o obligation_n to_o the_o yoke_n of_o bondage_n and_o render_v christ_n unprofitable_a to_o such_o as_o shall_v now_o receive_v it_o and_o consequent_o a_o release_n from_o that_o church-membership_n according_a to_o the_o law_n be_v a_o great_a mercy_n to_o infant_n who_o still_o retain_v membership_n in_o the_o invisible_a church_n as_o they_o do_v before_o circumcision_n be_v in_o be_v presbyterian_a query_n 26._o whether_o it_o be_v credible_a that_o he_o who_o come_v not_o to_o cast_v out_o jew_n but_o to_o bring_v in_o gentile_n break_v down_o the_o partition-wall_n and_o make_v of_o two_o one_o church_n will_v have_v a_o chureh_n of_o so_o different_a form_n and_o constitution_n that_o the_o church_n at_o
god_n by_o consent_v to_o god_n covenant_n for_o themselves_o and_o they_o whether_o it_o be_v not_o the_o duty_n of_o the_o israelite_n to_o engage_v and_o devote_v their_o child_n to_o god_n in_o covenant_n whether_o this_o be_v not_o evident_a from_o the_o penalty_n even_o to_o be_v cut_v off_o from_o his_o people_n annex_v for_o the_o non-performance_n and_o whether_o this_o be_v not_o as_o much_o our_o duty_n still_o do_v not_o the_o law_n of_o nature_n bind_v we_o to_o give_v to_o every_o one_o his_o own_o due_a and_o be_v not_o infant_n god_n own_o due_a do_v not_o the_o law_n of_o nature_n bind_v parent_n to_o give_v they_o up_o to_o god_n by_o acknowledge_v his_o right_n with_o a_o free_a resignation_n and_o dedication_n of_o the_o inf●n●_n to_o god_n as_o his_o own_o baptist_n antiq._n 30._o where_o be_v christian_a parent_n require_v to_o devote_v their_o child_n by_o consent_v to_o any_o covenant_n for_o they_o or_o in_o their_o stead_n as_o the_o jew_n be_v in_o matter_n 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complain_v of_o and_o how_o i_o pray_v you_o do_v abraham_n isaac_n and_o jacob_n dedicate_v their_o female_a infant_n to_o god_n since_o we_o find_v no_o practical_a ordinance_n for_o they_o in_o infancy_n or_o who_o go_v about_o to_o justify_v the_o world_n if_o they_o do_v not_o as_o the_o law_n of_o god_n and_o nature_n will_v they_o to_o do_v for_o their_o infant_n and_o may_v we_o not_o well_o justify_v all_o man_n for_o not_o do_v that_o which_o the_o law_n of_o god_n never_o require_v presbyterian_a query_n 33._o be_v it_o not_o a_o great_a benefit_n and_o privilege_n to_o be_v a_o visible_a church-member_n of_o christ_n as_o head_n of_o the_o church_n and_o of_o his_o church_n as_o visible_a be_v it_o not_o abenefit_n in_o itself_o beside_o the_o consequent_n to_o be_v visible_o unite_v and_o relate_v to_o christ_n and_o his_o body_n be_v not_o such_o a_o relation_n to_o god_n the_o father_n son_n and_o holy_a ghost_n and_o to_o the_o church_n a_o honour_n and_o how_o great_a 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