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A31663 An impartial account of the Portsmouth disputation with some just reflections on Dr. Russel's pretended narrative : with an abrigdment of those discourses that were the innocent occasion of that disputation / by Samuel Chandler, William Leigh, Benjamin Robinson. Chandler, Samuel.; Leigh, William.; Robinson, Benjamin, 1666-1724. 1699 (1699) Wing C1933; ESTC R24745 96,620 125

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christ._n but_o etc._n etc._n l._n i_o deny_v the_o consequence_n of_o your_o major_n that_o because_o they_o be_v uncapable_a of_o learning_n christ_n therefore_o they_o be_v uncapable_a of_o be_v disciple_v to_o christ._n will._n i_o say_v if_o infant_n be_v not_o the_o subject_n in_o the_o commission_n before_o neither_o be_v capable_a of_o be_v teach_v and_o instruct_v than_o they_o be_v not_o the_o subject_n of_o baptism_n but_o &c_n &c_n therefore_o etc._n etc._n l._n i_o deny_v that_o they_o be_v not_o the_o subject_n and_o the_o greek_a word_n signify'_v to_o make_v disciple_n i_o deny_v that_o they_o be_v uncapable_a of_o be_v make_v disciple_n because_o not_o capable_a of_o learning_n wil._n if_o to_o be_v a_o disciple_n of_o christ_n be_v to_o be_v a_o scholar_n of_o christ_n than_o infant_n that_o be_v uncapable_a of_o learning_n christ_n can_v be_v no_o disciple_n but_o etc._n etc._n therefore_o etc._n etc._n l._n i_o deny_v still_o the_o sequel_n of_o the_o major_a will_v 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