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A79489 A Christian plea for infants baptisme. Or a confutation of some things written by A.R. in his treatise, entitutled, The second part of the vanitie and childishnesse of infants baptisme. In the answer whereof, the lawfulnesse of infants baptisme is defended, and the arguments against it disproved, by sufficient grounds and forcible reasons, drawn from the sweet fountains of holy Scripture. S.C. Chidley, Samuel. 1644 (1644) Wing C3836A; Thomason E32_2; ESTC R11383 164,121 171

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covenant_n no_o more_o than_o the_o infant_n of_o abraham_n to_o who_o the_o lord_n speak_v say_v i_o will_v be_v thy_o god_n and_o the_o god_n of_o thy_o seed_n etc._n etc._n thou_o shall_v keep_v my_o covenant_n therefore_o thou_o and_o thy_o seed_n after_o thou_o in_o their_o generation_n 17.10_o generation_n gen._n 17.10_o by_o all_o this_o it_o appear_v that_o we_o have_v no_o ground_n to_o deny_v that_o the_o scripture_n speak_v of_o their_o child_n in_o covenant_n neither_o be_v we_o to_o dream_v that_o the_o promise_n appertain_v to_o all_o sort_n or_o be_v visible_o make_v equal_o to_o visible_a believer_n and_o visible_a unbeliever_n also_o for_o though_o in_o god_n secret_a account_n visible_a unbeliever_n may_v be_v account_v as_o visible_a believer_n be_v and_o have_v the_o promise_v reserve_v for_o they_o by_o god_n in_o the_o secret_a intention_n and_o unalterable_a resolution_n of_o his_o sacred_a majesty_n who_o will_v afterward_o manifest_v it_o visible_o to_o 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shall_v be_v observe_v deut._n 12.32_o but_o god_n command_v the_o outward_a seal_n of_o his_o covenant_n of_o grace_n to_o be_v impose_v upon_o the_o infant_n of_o his_o people_n gen_n 17.11_o 12_o 13._o rom._n 4.11_o this_o commandment_n in_o respect_n of_o the_o substance_n of_o it_o be_v never_o yet_o abrogate_a or_o disannul_v therefore_o it_o be_v in_o the_o substance_n of_o it_o still_o to_o be_v continue_v and_o it_o be_v both_o right_a and_o equal_v it_o shall_v be_v observe_v next_o you_o say_v here_o they_o say_v 35._o say_v lin._n 35._o we_o have_v another_o institution_n to_o baptize_v all_o nation_n r._n a._n r._n mat._n 28.19_o but_o here_o you_o shall_v observe_v that_o we_o stand_v not_o for_o the_o baptise_v of_o all_o nation_n but_o as_o they_o appear_v unto_o we_o by_o the_o rule_n of_o the_o word_n to_o be_v disciple_n second_o though_o this_o be_v general_a in_o respect_n of_o the_o subject_n yet_o it_o be_v a_o particular_a institution_n to_o baptize_v as_o 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