Selected quad for the lemma: nation_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
nation_n	baptise_v	disciple_n	infant_n	1,787	5	9.8128	5	true

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A41787	A religious contest, or A brief account of a disputation holden at Blyton in the county of Lincoln between Mr. William Fort minister of the perochial congregation at Blyton on the one part, and Thomas Grantham, servant to the baptised churches on the other part : whereunto is added Brief animadversions upon Dr. Stilling-fleet his digressions about infant baptism in his book intituled, A rational account of the Protestant religion, &c., in both which are shewed that the generality of the nations now professing Christianity are as yet unbaptised into Christ : 1. Because their sprinkling and crossing the fore-head is not the right way of baptising, 2. Because infants ought not to be baptised.	Grantham, Thomas, 1634-1692.	1674 (1674)	Wing G1544; ESTC R39430	28,329	42

they_o or_o pour_v a_o little_a water_n upon_o they_o as_o you_o do_v on_o the_o infant_n forehead_n and_o here_o give_v i_o leave_v to_o urge_v some_o authority_n for_o the_o sigsiification_n of_o the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d to_o be_v a_o dip_v of_o the_o thing_n denominate_v baptize_v and_o first_o i_o urge_v the_o greek_a grammar_n where_o the_o radix_fw-la be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o render_v mergo_fw-la immergo_fw-la to_o dip_v or_o plunge_v mr._n fort._n i_o will_v not_o regard_v the_o greek_a grammar_n t._n grantham_n this_o be_v strange_a will_v you_o take_v upon_o you_o to_o correct_v the_o greek_a grammar_n mr._n fort._n yes_o that_o i_o will_v i_o will_v not_o believe_v the_o greek_a grammar_n t._n grantham_n i_o suppose_v you_o will_v correct_v our_o bibles_n too_o if_o you_o can_v but_o till_o this_o be_v do_v give_v we_o leave_v to_o believe_v the_o grammar_n which_o we_o have_v for_o i_o do_v not_o expect_v a_o better_a from_o you_o my_o next_o authority_n be_v that_o of_o channer_n who_o say_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d estingo_fw-la quod_fw-la fit_a immergendo_fw-la portinctionem_fw-la &_o inundationem_fw-la mr._n fort._n i_o have_v not_o see_v that_o author_n t._n grantham_n then_o i_o give_v you_o another_o a_o brose_n say_v ergofratres_fw-la tingi_fw-la debens_fw-la 〈◊〉_d fonte_fw-la quo_fw-la christus_fw-la therefore_o brethren_n we_o must_v be_v dip_v in_o the_o same_o fountain_n with_o christ_n that_o we_o may_v be_v one_o with_o christ_n and_o to_o this_o agree_v the_o decree_n of_o some_o counsel_n mr._n fort._n pray_v assign_v those_o counsel_n that_o decree_v such_o a_o thing_n if_o you_o can_v t._n grantham_n the_o forth_o toleton_n counsel_n which_o be_v ratify_v in_o the_o decretall_n say_v proter_fw-la vitandum_fw-la schismatis_fw-la scandulum_fw-la &_o ●_o wherefore_o to_o avoid_v the_o scandal_n of_o schism_n let_v we_o in_o baptism_n dip_v but_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o say_v the_o counsel_n of_o worm_n in_o aquas_fw-la demersio_fw-la in_o infernum_fw-la est_fw-la &_o rursus_fw-la ab_fw-la aquis_fw-la emersio_fw-la resurrectio_fw-la est_fw-la mr._n fort._n well_o i_o have_v tell_v you_o i_o be_v dip_v yet_o i_o have_v but_o my_o head_n only_o dip_v and_o for_o my_o part_n i_o do_v not_o use_v sprinkle_v at_o all_o t._n grantham_n sir_n i_o have_v show_v how_o therein_o you_o contradict_v your_o brethren_n and_o the_o church_n of_o england_n and_o it_o be_v observable_a that_o you_o can_v stand_v by_o your_o way_n of_o baptise_v and_o hereby_o you_o give_v this_o assembly_n just_a cause_n to_o suspect_v their_o baptism_n but_o i_o proceed_v arg._n 7._o that_o practice_n which_o be_v innovate_v long_o after_o the_o institution_n of_o baptism_n be_v not_o the_o right_a way_n of_o baptise_v but_o your_o way_n be_v innovate_v long_o after_o the_o institution_n of_o baptism_n ergo_fw-la your_o way_n be_v not_o the_o right_a way_n of_o baptise_v mr._n fort._n i_o deny_v that_o our_o way_n be_v innovate_v long_o after_o the_o institution_n of_o baptism_n t._n grantham_n i_o can_v prove_v it_o be_v innovate_v long_o after_o the_o institution_n of_o baptism_n by_o your_o own_o doctor_n for_o example_n hugo_n grotius_n who_o confess_v so_o much_o in_o his_o judgement_n on_o sundry_a point_n controvert_v also_o the_o learned_a marquis_n of_o worcester_n in_o his_o conference_n with_o his_o late_a majesty_n confess_v that_o their_o church_n to_o wit_n the_o papist_n change_v baptism_n from_o dip_v over_o head_n and_o ear_n to_o a_o little_a sprinkle_n upon_o the_o forehead_n and_o wallridus_n strabo_fw-la de_fw-la rebus_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la that_o the_o first_o christian_n be_v baptize_v simple_o in_o flood_n and_o fountain_n yea_o i_o can_v prove_v by_o our_o own_o chronicle_n that_o there_o be_v about_o ten_o thousand_o baptize_v in_o one_o day_n in_o the_o river_n small_a in_o yorkshire_n from_o all_o which_o it_o appear_v your_o way_n of_o sprinkle_v be_v a_o innovation_n mr._n w_n mr._n wright_n one_o of_o the_o minister_n that_o sit_v by_o be_v very_o angry_a and_o stand_v up_o say_v you_o speak_v all_o it_o be_v not_o fit_v you_o shall_v speak_v so_o much_o t._n grantham_n to_o who_o t._n g._n reply_v sir_n you_o ought_v not_o to_o be_v angry_a i_o do_v not_o interrupt_v mr._n fort_n and_o he_o have_v time_n to_o speak_v what_o he_o have_v to_o say_v therefore_o blame_v not_o i_o since_o i_o hear_v as_o well_o as_o speak_v mr._n fort._n pray_v mr_n wright_n be_v not_o angry_a i_o promise_v it_o shall_v be_v a_o peaceable_a dispute_n t._n grantham_n because_o i_o will_v give_v place_n that_o mr._n fortnight_n ●ight_z have_v time_n to_o prove_v his_o practice_n i_o will_v now_o proceed_v to_o the_o second_o question_n viz_o qu._n 2._o whether_o infant_n ought_v to_o be_v baptize_v i_o be_o to_o prove_v they_o ought_v not_o which_o i_o thus_o do_v arg._n 1._o holy_a scripture_n do_v show_v who_o be_v to_o be_v baptize_v holy_a scripture_n d●th_v not_o show_v that_o infant_n ought_v to_o be_v baptize_v ergo_fw-la infant_n ought_v not_o to_o be_v baptize_v mr._n fort._n holy_a scripture_n do_v show_v that_o infant_n ought_v to_o be_v baptize_v thomas_n grantham_n if_o holy_a scripture_n do_v show_v that_o infant_n ought_v to_o be_v baptize_v than_o some_o body_n can_v show_v where_o it_o may_v be_v find_v but_o no_o body_n can_v show_v we_o where_o such_o a_o scripture_n may_v be_v find_v ergo_fw-la holy_a scripture_n do_v not_o show_v that_o infant_n ought_v to_o be_v baptize_v mr._n fort._n i_o can_v show_v where_o it_o may_v be_v find_v and_o i_o will_v prove_v that_o infant_n ought_v to_o be_v baptize_v from_o mat._n 28_o 19_o t._n grantham_n sir_n you_o mistake_v your_o place_n for_o you_o be_v not_o now_o to_o prove_v but_o to_o answer_v i_o nor_o do_v the_o text_n you_o mention_v speak_v of_o infant_n baptism_n at_o all_o mr._n fort._n the_o word_n be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d make_v disciple_n in_o all_o nation_n baptise_v they_o but_o infant_n be_v part_n of_o the_o nation_n that_o be_v to_o be_v baptize_v t._n grantham_n you_o do_v violate_v the_o law_n of_o dispute_v for_o be_v my_o respondent_fw-la you_o ought_v not_o to_o argue_v now_o for_o the_o text_n it_o be_v read_v thus_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d etc._n etc._n now_o for_o the_o explication_n of_o the_o verb_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d i_o refer_v you_o to_o john_n the_o 4_o 1._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d here_o disciple_n be_v make_v such_o by_o actual_a teach_n ergo_fw-la infant_n can_v be_v make_v disciple_n according_a to_o mat._n 28._o 19_o mr._n fort._n i_o deny_v that_o it_o be_v necessary_a to_o understand_v a_o actual_a teach_n by_o the_o w●rd_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d t._n g._n the_o very_a read_n of_o the_o text_n give_v it_o against_o you_o for_o it_o say_v go_v teach_v all_o nation_n ●_z a_o act_n to_o be_v do_v by_o the_o apostle_n mr._n fort._n i_o tell_v you_o infant_n of_o believer_n be_v disciple_n and_o need_v no_o act_n to_o make_v they_o so_o t._n g._n that_o can_v be_v they_o must_v be_v make_v disciple_n either_o by_o god_n or_o man_n before_o they_o can_v be_v disciple_n however_o they_o can_v be_v disciple_n according_a to_o mat._n 28._o because_o that_o be_v interpret_v by_o yourself_o to_o make_v disciple_n viz_o by_o the_o apostle_n mr._n fort._n but_o there_o be_v no_o necessity_n to_o understand_v a_o actual_a teach_n of_o all_o that_o be_v to_o be_v make_v disciple_n t._n grantham_n it_o can_v have_v no_o other_o signification_n as_o i_o shall_v show_v by_o your_o own_o critic_n who_o tell_v we_o that_o the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d est_fw-la disco_fw-la to_o learn_v or_o get_v knowledge_n and_o in_o the_o hebrew_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d &_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d come_v of_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d didict_n and_o be_v render_v dicens_fw-la ab_fw-la alio_fw-la which_o agree_v with_o the_o syriack_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o the_o arab._n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d this_o full_o accord_v with_o mark_n 16._o 16._o go_v preach_v the_o gospel_n to_o every_o creature_n and_o hence_o i_o argue_v if_o those_o that_o be_v to_o be_v baptize_v according_a to_o mat._n 28._o 19_o must_n first_o be_v make_v by_o actual_a teach_n or_o learn_v from_o another_o than_o no_o infant_n ought_v to_o be_v baptize_v according_a to_o this_o text_n but_o the_o first_o be_v true_a ergo_fw-la so_o be_v the_o latter_a mr._n fort._n i_o will_v prove_v that_o infant_n ought_v to_o be_v baptize_v as_o be_v disciple_n from_o act_n 15._o why_o tempt_v you_o god_n to_o put_v a_o yoke_n upon_o the_o neck_n of_o the_o disciple_n this_o be_v speak_v of_o infant_n and_o therefore_o they_o be_v

uncapable_a as_o of_o the_o lord_n table_n what_o the_o dr._n say_v further_a of_o the_o end_n of_o baptism_n to_o represent_v and_o exhibit_v the_o nature_n of_o the_o grace_n of_o the_o gospel_n and_o to_o confirm_v the_o truth_n of_o the_o covenant_n on_o god_n part_n we_o have_v consider_v before_o and_o to_o what_o you_o here_o add_v say_v it_o instate_v the_o partaker_n of_o it_o in_o the_o privilege_n of_o the_o church_n of_o god_n i_o answer_v that_o though_o the_o dr._n speak_v right_o according_a to_o the_o right_a administration_n of_o baptism_n yet_o according_a to_o his_o way_n of_o infant_n baptism_n it_o be_v not_o so_o see_v we_o all_o know_v infant_n while_o such_o though_o sprinkle_v have_v no_o more_o privilege_n in_o your_o church_n then_o those_o who_o be_v not_o sprinkle_v for_o the_o privilege_n next_o follow_v baptism_n be_v to_o be_v teach_v to_o observe_v all_o thing_n whatsoever_o christ_n command_v and_o to_o continue_v in_o fellowship_n with_o the_o church_n in_o break_v of_o bread_n and_o prayer_n act_v 2_o 42._o ma._n 28._o 20._o now_o to_o tell_v we_o that_o infant_n be_v instate_v in_o these_o thing_n and_o yet_o whilst_o infant_n have_v nothing_o at_o all_o to_o do_v with_o they_o be_v too_o gross_a a_o vanity_n for_o if_o you_o say_v they_o be_v instate_v in_o these_o privilege_n upon_o future_a contingence_n viz._n repentance_n faith_n and_o newness_n of_o life_n according_a to_o the_o gospel_n i_o answer_v when_o this_o come_v to_o pass_v they_o be_v no_o infant_n nor_o as_o infant_n partake_v of_o these_o privilege_n but_o as_o those_o that_o be_v now_o the_o son_n of_o god_n by_o faith_n and_o thus_o true_o all_o infant_n be_v instate_v in_o church_n privilege_n as_o soon_o as_o bear_v see_v by_o the_o death_n of_o christ_n they_o have_v a_o right_n upon_o the_o condition_n of_o the_o gospel_n when_o capable_a to_o perform_v they_o thus_o you_o mislead_v the_o world_n with_o a_o specious_a pretence_n of_o instate_v their_o infant_n in_o church_n privilege_n when_o it_o be_v only_o a_o empty_a sound_n of_o word_n but_o the_o jew_n infant_n as_o they_o be_v instate_v in_o the_o privilege_n of_o their_o church_n by_o circumision_n so_o they_o enter_v upon_o the_o enjoyment_n of_o their_o privilege_n in_o infancy_n appear_v by_o god_n commandment_n three_o time_n a_o year_n in_o the_o temple_n with_o the_o offering_n accustom_v and_o to_o partake_v of_o the_o passeover_n with_o the_o congregation_n or_o family_n where_o it_o be_v eat_v the_o dr._n say_v nothing_o can_v seem_v want_v of_o the_o end_n of_o baptism_n in_o respect_n of_o infant_n but_o that_o which_o seem_v most_o cerimonial_a which_o be_v the_o personal_a restipulation_n which_o yet_o may_v reasonable_o be_v supply_v by_o sponsor_n etc._n etc._n that_o there_o be_v much_o want_v beside_o this_o restipulation_n in_o your_o infant_n baptism_n be_v show_v before_o and_o it_o be_v unadvised_o say_v that_o the_o restipulation_n of_o the_o person_n baptize_v be_v the_o most_o ceremonial_a thing_n in_o baptism_n see_v it_o be_v the_o moral_a and_o substantial_a part_n be_v indeed_o our_o covenant_v with_o god_n and_o in_o truth_n the_o external_a wash_n be_v far_o more_o ceremonial_a as_o appear_v 1_o pet._n 3._o 21._o and_o for_o your_o say_n that_o the_o personal_a restipulation_n in_o baptism_n may_v be_v reasonable_o supply_v by_o godfather_n be_v very_o much_o below_o the_o reason_n of_o any_o christian_n to_o affirm_v but_o be_v it_o so_o that_o sponsor_n may_v supply_v the_o personal_a restipulation_n which_o be_v the_o great_a then_o let_v they_o also_o supply_v the_o lesser_a to_o wit_n sprinkle_v with_o water_n which_o they_o can_v better_o perform_v than_o the_o covenant_n they_o make_v for_o the_o infant_n and_o then_o the_o whole_a business_n will_v appear_v to_o have_v the_o same_o reasonableness_n in_o every_o part_n viz_o whole_o unreasonable_a thus_o much_o touch_v the_o capacity_n of_o infant_n etc._n etc._n next_o the_o dr_n tell_v we_o that_o in_o the_o institution_n of_o baptism_n there_o be_v neither_o direct_a nor_o consequential_a prohibition_n of_o infant_n to_o be_v baptize_v and_o that_o there_o be_v nothing_o of_o that_o nature_n pretend_v before_o the_o 〈◊〉_d commission_n mat._n 28._o 19_o but_o here_o be_v a_o mistake_n and_o its_o strange_a he_o never_o observe_v that_o it_o have_v often_o be_v demonstrate_v that_o as_o when_o circumcision_n first_o appear_v in_o the_o world_n it_o clear_o take_v in_o the_o infant_n of_o those_o to_o who_o it_o be_v first_o give_v so_o according_o it_o be_v propagate_v but_o when_o baptism_n first_o appear_v in_o the_o world_n it_o as_o clear_o leave_v out_o the_o infant_n of_o those_o to_o who_o it_o be_v first_o minister_v and_o according_o be_v propagate_v by_o the_o holy_a apostle_n insomuch_o that_o of_o the_o many_o thousand_o and_o famous_a church_n that_o be_v baptize_v all_o the_o world_n be_v not_o able_a to_o show_v so_o much_o as_o one_o infant_n to_o have_v be_v baptize_v in_o any_o one_o of_o they_o nor_o one_o word_n of_o precept_n for_o so_o do_v and_o if_o this_o be_v not_o so_o much_o as_o a_o consequential_a prohibition_n of_o infant_n baptism_n i_o shall_v never_o believe_v that_o the_o dr._n or_o any_o else_o can_v show_v i_o so_o much_o as_o a_o consequential_a prohibition_n of_o infant_n receive_v the_o lord_n supper_n the_o imposition_n of_o hand_n etc._n etc._n and_o though_o the_o dr._n consider_v never_o so_o much_o what_o apprehension_n the_o apostle_n have_v concern_v the_o church_n state_n of_o such_o as_o be_v in_o external_a covenant_n with_o god_n yet_o he_o can_v rational_o imagine_v that_o they_o shall_v measure_v the_o state_n of_o the_o gospel_n church_n by_o the_o reason_n of_o the_o covenant_n which_o god_n make_v with_o the_o jew_n and_o their_o seed_n according_a to_o the_o flesh_n see_v it_o be_v express_o say_v from_o henceforth_o to_o wit_n from_o the_o vanish_v of_o the_o old_a covenant_n know_v we_o no_o man_n after_o the_o flesh_n but_o now_o if_o any_o man_n be_v in_o christ_n he_o be_v a_o new_a creature_n and_o now_o man_n be_v not_o to_o be_v account_v of_o the_o church_n because_o they_o be_v abraham_n s_o seed_n but_o they_o be_v account_v abraham_n s_o seed_n by_o be_v in_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n gal._n 3._o 29._o if_o you_o be_v christ_n then_o be_v you_o abraham_n be_v seed_n and_o heir_n according_a to_o promise_v neither_o be_v it_o true_a that_o christ_n command_v his_o apostle_n to_o gather_v whole_a nation_n into_o churbe_n as_o the_o dr._n affirm_v neither_o do_v the_o apostle_n gather_v any_o one_o whole_a nation_n or_o city_n into_o a_o church_n s●ate_n that_o we_o read_v of_o therefore_o church_n consist_v of_o whole_a nation_n man_n woman_n and_o infant_n be_v not_o apostollical_a but_o this_o the_o apostle_n do_v they_o teach_v many_o nation_n 1._o v_o their_o sound_n go_v through_o many_o nation_n not_o that_o they_o teach_v all_o manner_n of_o person_n in_o the_o nation_n for_o they_o teach_v no_o infant_n and_o the_o person_n by_o they_o gather_v into_o the_o church_n be_v only_o such_o as_o receive_v their_o doctrine_n as_o appear_v by_o those_o family_n where_o their_o gospel_n be_v receive_v the_o husband_n sometime_o opposite_a to_o the_o wife_n and_o otherwhiles_o the_o wife_n to_o the_o husband_n servant_n and_o master_n likewise_o differ_v in_o the_o same_o family_n about_o christianity_n 1._o cor._n 7._o if_o then_o the_o apostle_n do_v not_o gather_v whole_a family_n into_o a_o church_n state_n unless_o they_o do_v whole_o believe_v act._n 16._o how-should_a any_o man_n imagine_v they_o gather_v whole_a nation_n the_o great_a part_n whereof_o by_o all_o experience_n be_v wicked_a person_n yea_o in_o those_o very_a nation_n which_o man_n pretend_v to_o have_v make_v into_o church_n of_o christ_n of_o which_o will_v god_n england_n be_v not_o so_o full_a a_o evidence_n as_o it_o be_v this_o day_n the_o dr._n grant_v that_o the_o order_n of_o word_n mat._n 28_o 19_o teach_v all_o nation_n baptise_v they_o be_v necessary_a for_o those_o who_o be_v then_o to_o be_v proselit_v to_o christianity_n and_o we_o say_v they_o be_v as_o necessary_a for_o the_o generation_n follow_v who_o have_v as_o much_o need_n of_o true_a faith_n and_o repentance_n or_o the_o first_o principle_n of_o christianity_n in_o order_n to_o their_o be_v christian_n as_o they_o that_o go_v before_o and_o it_o be_v a_o pernicious_a alteration_n of_o the_o order_n of_o christ_n commission_n to_o outrun_v it●s_a direction_n so_o as_o to_o make_v person_n to_o be_v christian_n before_o they_o do_v or_o can_v know_v the_o least_o title_n of_o christianity_n the_o case_n which_o the_o dr._n put_v about_o go_v to_o disciple_n the_o indian_n baptise_v they_o be_v not_o at_o all_o rational_a

but_o upon_o the_o pre-supposition_n that_o the_o person_n so_o do_v to_o have_v see_v or_o know_v they_o that_o give_v he_o his_o authority_n to_o baptise_v infant_n and_o then_o indeed_o it_o be_v rational_a to_o suppose_v such_o a_o person_n will_v not_o understand_v that_o the_o word_n disciple_n the_o indian_n baptise_v they_o will_v exclude_v infant_n but_o yet_o i_o must_v also_o say_v that_o his_o ground_n to_o believe_v so_o can_v not_o arise_v from_o the_o word_n themselves_o but_o from_o the_o practice_n presuppose_v wherefore_o the_o apostle_n have_v direction_n to_o teach_v all_o nation_n baptise_v they_o without_o the_o least_o knowledge_n of_o any_o infant_n baptise_a by_o any_o baptist_n which_o be_v before_o they_o or_o from_o who_o they_o receive_v their_o authority_n here_o be_v no_o place_n for_o the_o drs._n supposition_n at_o all_o as_o little_a cause_n have_v he_o to_o think_v that_o have_v any_o one_o say_v to_o abraham_n he_o that_o believe_v and_o be_v circumcise_v shall_v be_v save_v it_o ought_v so_o to_o have_v be_v interpret_v as_o that_o infant_n ought_v to_o be_v circumcise_v for_o if_o this_o have_v be_v all_o the_o rule_n give_v for_o circumcision_n it_o must_v of_o necessity_n have_v be_v limit_v to_o such_o as_o believe_v only_o and_o unless_o the_o dr._n know_v how_o from_o good_a ground_n to_o satisfy_v his_o conscience_n that_o infant_n be_v believer_n of_o that_o which_o be_v teach_v or_o preach_v according_a to_o mark_v 16._o which_o place_n he_o allude_v unto_o he_o must_v so_o limit_v the_o diversion_n for_o baptise_v but_o if_o indeed_o he_o take_v infant_n to_o be_v such_o believer_n than_o he_o be_v answer_v by_o dr._n hammond_n in_o his_o let._n of_o resol_n p._n 297._o who_o say_v as_o for_o the_o question_n whether_o infant_n have_v faith_n i_o profess_v myself_o to_o be_v none_o of_o those_o who_o be_v concern_v in_o it_o i_o free_o confess_v to_o believe_v faith_n to_o be_v so_o necessary_o found_v in_o understanding_n that_o they_o that_o have_v not_o understandisg_v can_v have_v faith_n whethe_o actual_a or_o habitual_a the_o conclusion_n therefore_o be_v since_o in_o the_o case_n you_o put_v the_o word_n believe_v can_v concern_v infant_n and_o that_o they_o must_v be_v deem_v capable_a of_o salvation_n though_o they_o believe_v not_o it_o be_v every_o way_n safe_a to_o think_v they_o unconcerned_a in_o the_o other_o duty_n that_o passage_n mark_v 16._o 16._o or_o any_o other_o like_a unto_o it_o notwithstanding_o final_o the_o dr._n propose_v five_o consideration_n about_o the_o suitableness_n of_o in●ant_a baptism_n to_o the_o administration_n of_o thing_n under_o the_o gospel_n and_o first_o he_o say_v 1._o that_o if_o it_o have_v be_v christ_n intention_n to_o exclude_v infant_n there_o have_v be_v far_o great_a reason_n for_o a_o express_a prohibition_n then_o for_o a_o express_a command_n if_o his_o intention_n be_v to_o admit_v they_o because_o this_o be_v suitable_a to_o the_o general_a ground_n of_o god_n dispensation_n among_o they_o before_o answer_v here_o be_v little_o say_v but_o what_o have_v be_v answer_v before_o and_o may_v be_v answer_v by_o say_v have_v it_o be_v christ_n intention_n that_o infant_n shall_v not_o be_v admit_v to_o the_o lord_n table_n there_o have_v be_v more_o need_n of_o a_o express_a prohibition_n etc._n etc._n then_o of_o a_o express_a command_n etc._n etc._n because_o suitable_a to_o god_n dispensation_n among_o they_o before_o thus_o argumentum_fw-la ad_fw-la hominem_fw-la but_o i_o answer_v further_o it_o be_v dangerous_a argue_v to_o our_o present_a right_n to_o sacrament_n from_o god_n dispensation_n among_o the_o jew_n see_v the_o state_n of_o the_o church_n and_o the_o dispensation_n be_v so_o much_o alter_v as_o that_o the_o former_a be_v but_o carnal_a in_o respect_n of_o the_o spirituality_n of_o the_o other_o 2._o the_o dr._n say_v it_o be_v very_o hard_a to_o conceive_v that_o the_o apostle_n think_v infant_n exclude_v by_o christ_n when_o after_o christ_n ascension_n they_o look_v upon_o themselves_o bind_v to_o observe_v the_o jewish_a custom_n even_o when_o they_o have_v baptize_v many_o thousand_o answer_v it_o be_v ill_o say_v that_o the_o apostle_n be_v bind_v to_o observe_v any_o such_o jewish_a custom_n because_o of_o any_o suitableness_n between_o they_o and_o thing_n under_o the_o gospel_n which_o be_v the_o mark_v you_o ought_v to_o hit_v or_o you_o say_v nothing_o but_o the_o reason_n why_o they_o do_v observe_v such_o custom_n for_o a_o time_n be_v the_o weakness_n of_o the_o jew_n and_o we_o find_v the_o apostle_n do_v as_o speedy_o put_v a_o period_n to_o such_o custom_n as_o they_o can_v act_n 15._o 24._o to_o 32._o act_n 1645._o which_o clear_o show_v jewish_n custom_n be_v not_o suitable_a to_o thing_n under_o the_o gospel_n and_o here_o circumcision_n one_o of_o the_o chief_a of_o jewish_a rite_n be_v clear_o abolish_v among_o the_o rest_n so_o that_o a_o man_n will_v think_v infant_n baptism_n shall_v never_o have_v be_v build_v upon_o it_o 3._o the_o dr_n say_v if_o admission_n of_o infant_n to_o baptism_n be_v a_o mere_a relic_n of_o judaism_n it_o seem_v strange_a that_o none_o of_o the_o judaize_v christian_n shall_v be_v charge_v with_o it_o who_o yet_o be_v charge_v with_o the_o observation_n of_o other_o judaical_a rite_n answer_v i_o find_v no_o man_n say_v that_o infant_n baptism_n be_v a_o relic_n of_o judaism_n save_v dr._n hammond_n and_o some_o from_o he_o and_o he_o indeed_o will_v make_v believer_n baptism_n also_o a_o jewish_a relic_n while_o he_o teach_v that_o the_o jew_n baptise_v proselyte_n and_o their_o child_n be_v the_o original_a and_o the_o baptism_n ●f_n the_o christian_a church_n but_o the_o copy_n by_o which_o device_n he_o have_v open_v a_o gap_n to_o our_o late_a n●tionists_n to_o deprive_v the_o church_n of_o sacred_a baptism_n altogether_o and_o have_v do_v more_o to_o weaken_v the_o cause_n of_o infant_n baptism_n then_o any_o other_o of_o its_o favourite_n in_o lay_v its_o foundation_n in_o jewish_a ceremony_n for_o which_o they_o have_v no_o clear_a command_n from_o god_n but_o great_a be_v this_o truth_n of_o believer_n baptism_n and_o will_v stand_v notwithstanding_o the_o injury_n do_v by_o dr._n hammond_n for_o it_o be_v no_o jewish_a rite_n the_o baptism_n of_o repentance_n for_o the_o remission_n of_o sin_n be_v from_o heaven_n mat._n 21._o 25._o and_o the_o pharisee_n who_o ●ere_z ●ealous_n enough_o for_o jewish_a rite_n rejct_v holy_a baptism_n which_o christ_n asfi●ms_v to_o be_v the_o counsel_n of_o god_n lu._n 7._o 30._o and_o testify_v out_o of_o the_o conscience_n of_o his_o enemy_n that_o he_o that_o t●aches_v otherwise_o deny_v john_n to_o be_v a_o prophet_n this_o then_o be_v the_o thing_n that_o true_o seem_v strange_a that_o no_o mention_n be_v make_v of_o infant_n baptism_n if_o indeed_o it_o be_v at_o all_o receive_v in_o the_o christian_a church_n either_o as_o a_o jewish_a rite_n or_o otherwise_o but_o not_o str●●●e_v at_o all_o that_o none_o be_v charge_v with_o it_o see_v none_o can_v be_v name_v that_o hold_v it_o 4._o since_o they_o wish_v christian_n be_v so_o much_o offend_v say_v the_o dr._n at_o the_o neglect_n of_o circumcision_n act_v 21._o can_v we_o in_o reason_n think_v they_o shall_v quiet_o bear_v their_o child_n be_v whole_o throw_v out_o of_o the_o church_n as_o they_o will_v have_v be_v if_o neither_o admit_v by_o circumcision_n nor_o baptism_n answer_v since_o the_o false_a apostle_n be_v so_o earnest_a to_o have_v the_o christian_n circumcise_v their_o child_n it_o be_v strange_a that_o none_o of_o the_o true_a apostle_n can_v or_o will_v quiet_v they_o by_o say_v instead_o of_o infant_n circumcision_n you_o have_v infant_n baptism_n if_o indeed_o there_o have_v be_v any_o such_o thing_n practise_v for_o this_o way_n go_v the_o apostle_n paul_n to_o still_v they_o when_o they_o will_v have_v bring_v the_o believer_n themselves_o under_o circumsion_n col._n two_o tell_v the_o chriffian_n they_o be_v circumcise_v with_o the_o circumcision_n make_v without_o hand_n in_o put_v off_o the_o body_n of_o the_o sin_n of_o the_o flesh_n by_o the_o circumcision_n of_o christ_n bury_v with_o he_o in_o baptism_n wherein_o you_o also_o be_v ●isen_v with_o he_o through_o the_o faith_n etc._n etc._n and_o why_o may_v not_o the_o jew_n as_o quiet_o take_v the_o non-admission_n of_o infant_n to_o baptism_n as_o they_o so_o take_v the_o non-admission_n of_o they_o to_o the_o lord_n supper_n see_v they_o be_v former_o admit_v to_o the_o passeover_n nor_o i●_n it_o necessary_a to_o say_v that_o though_o they_o be_v not_o admit_v to_o either_o of_o these_o that_o therefore_o they_o be_v whole_o throw_v out_o of_o the_o church_n for_o if_o by_o church_n be_v mean_v the_o whole_a number_n of_o the_o save_v then_o be_v infant_n of_o the_o church_n for_o christ_n have_v tell_v we_o the_o kingdom_n of_o god_n belong_v to_o infant_n and_o thus_o be_v infant_n of_o the_o church_n before_o circumcision_n be_v for_o some_o thousand_o of_o year_n but_o if_o by_o church_n be_v mean_v those_o only_o who_o be_v concern_v in_o the_o actual_a profession_n of_o the_o gospel_n in_o this_o respect_n i_o grant_v infant_n be_v not_o of_o the_o church_n god_n have_v no_o where_o require_v this_o of_o infant_n in_o his_o gospel_n infant_n be_v now_o as_o well_o as_o before_o the_o flood_n within_o the_o covenant_n of_o the_o gospel_n in_o respect_n of_o the_o grace_n of_o eternal_a life_n but_o be_v not_o under_o the_o duty_n of_o the_o covenant_n to_o wit_n repentance_n faith_n baptism_n perseverance_n etc._n etc._n nor_o can_v my_o calling_n the_o whole_a number_n of_o the_o save_v the_o church_n and_o thus_o make_v infant_n a_o part_n thereof_o offend_v a_o protestant_n who_o be_v acquaint_v with_o protestant_a doctrine_n see_v mr._n rogers_n cath._n doctrine_n p._n 73._o upon_o art_n 19_o of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n do●h_v affirm_v there_o be_v a_o invisible_a church_n and_o take_v all_o within_o the_o compass_n of_o ●his_fw-la church_n who_o be_v elect_v triumph_v or_o that_o shall_v triumph_v in_o heaven_n dr._n field_n take_v into_o his_o definition_n of_o the_o church_n all_o the_o elect_n of_o man_n or_o angel_n call_v or_o not_o yet_o call_v l._n 1._o c._n 8._o so_o that_o according_a to_o these_o defi●itions_n of_o the_o church_n infant_n be_v not_o throw_v out_o of_o the_o church_n though_o not_o of_o the_o number_n of_o the_o call_v and_o consequent_o not_o that_o cause_n for_o the_o jew_n to_o complain_v nor_o any_o other_o which_o the_o dr._n do_v imagine_v unless_o they_o be_v not_o acquaint_v with_o the_o extent_n of_o the_o covenant_n of_o god_n grace_n in_o christ_n jesus_n our_o lord_n five_o the_o doctor_n last_o tell_v we_o that_o have_v it_o be_v contrary_a to_o christ_n institution_n to_o baptise_v infant_n we_o shall_v not_o have_v have_v such_o evidence_n of_o its_o early_a practice_n in_o t●e_v church_n and_o here_o i_o acknowledge_v the_o use_n of_o apostolical_a tradition_n to_o manifest_v this_o to_o we_o answer_v this_o be_v altogether_o unlike_o a_o protestant_n what_o be_v the_o sacrament_n so_o dark_o lay_v down_o in_o the_o scripture_n that_o we_o know_v not_o when_o and_o to_o who_o they_o belong_v without_o tradition_n but_o when_o shall_v we_o see_v this_o tradition_n apostolical_a i_o think_v doctor_n ta●lor_n express_o deny_v there_o be_v any_o tradit_fw-la apostolical_a lib._n proph●si_fw-la p._n 117._o 120._o but_o the_o doctor_n can_v but_o know_v there_o be_v error_n which_o creep_v into_o the_o church_n even_o in_o the_o apostle_n day_n which_o also_o continue_v in_o some_o of_o they_o notwithstanding_o all_o endeavour_n to_o purge_v they_o such_o be_v circumcision_n and_o keep_v the_o law._n or_o if_o we_o list_v to_o reckon_v with_o record_n of_o antiquity_n it_o be_v easi●_n o_o show_v some_o thing_n hold_v by_o papist_n and_o oppose_v by_o the_o doctor_n be_v better_o prove_v by_o tradition_n then_o infant_n baptism_n for_o example_n the_o lent_n fast_o and_o prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a this_o be_v not_o deny_v by_o mr._n perkins_n demonst_a prob_fw-la what_o then_o shall_v be_v gain_v to_o the_o protestant_n religion_n by_o such_o traditional_a argument_n it_o be_v a_o notable_a say_n of_o irenae●s_n according_a to_o dr._n fulk_n wsen_fw-mi the_o heretic_n be_v reprove_v out_o of_o the_o scripture_n they_o ●all_n to_o accuse_v the_o scripture_n as_o if_o all_o be_v not_o well_o in_o they_o and_o that_o the_o truth_n can_v be_v find_v out_o of_o they_o that_o know_v not_o the_o tradition_n and_o say_v tertul_n according_a to_o dr._n fulk_n take_v away_o those_o thing_n from_o the_o heretic_n which_o they_o hold_v with_o ethnic_n that_o they_o may_v stay_v their_o question_n upon_o scripture_n only_o finis_fw-la errata_fw-la p._n 3._o l._n 5._o r._n be_v right_a p._n 4._o l._n 25._o r._n of_o a_o midwife_n p._n 5._o l._n 34._o for_o these_o r._n those_o p._n 7._o l._n 27._o for_o other_o r._n over_n

a_o religious_a contest_v or_o a_o brief_a account_n of_o a_o disputation_n hold_v at_o blyton_n in_o the_o county_n of_o lincoln_n between_o mr._n william_n fort_n minister_n of_o the_o perochial_a congregation_n at_o blyton_n on_o the_o one_o part_n and_o thomas_n grantham_n servant_n to_o the_o baptise_a church_n on_o the_o other_o part_n whereunto_o be_v add_v brief_a animadversion_n upon_o dr._n stilling-fleet_n his_o digression_n about_o infant_n baptism_n in_o his_o book_n entitle_v a_o rational_a account_n of_o the_o protestant_a religion_n etc._n etc._n in_o both_o which_o be_v show_v that_o the_o generality_n of_o the_o nation_n now_o profess_v christianity_n be_v as_o yet_o unbaptise_v into_o christ_n 1._o because_o their_o sprinkle_v and_o cross_v the_o forehead_n be_v not_o the_o right_a way_n of_o baptise_v 2._o because_o infant_n ought_v not_o to_o be_v baptize_v act_n 2._o 38._o repent_v and_o be_v baptize_v every_o one_o of_o you_o in_o the_o name_n of_o jesus_n christ_n for_o the_o remission_n of_o sin_n and_o you_o shall_v receive_v the_o gift_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n mark_v 16._o 16._o he_o that_o believe_v and_o be_v baptize_v shall_v be_v save_v london_n print_v in_o the_o year_n 1674._o the_o epistle_n dedicatory_a to_o mr._n william_n fort_n and_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o brethren_n and_o assistant_n at_o the_o dispute_v hold_v by_o his_o appointment_n at_o blyton_n the_o 18_o day_n of_o september_n 1673._o reverend_n sir_n i_o do_v serious_o account_v it_o a_o part_n of_o my_o infelicity_n to_o see_v the_o distraction_n and_o division_n among_o we_o touch_v the_o worship_n of_o almighty_a god_n and_o his_o holy_a child_n jesus_n who_o i_o trust_v we_o do_v all_o love_n and_o fear_n and_o therefore_o it_o be_v the_o great_a pity_n that_o we_o who_o differ_v not_o about_o the_o godhead_n shall_v at_o all_o differ_v about_o the_o thing_n which_o pertain_v to_o his_o bless_a service_n may_v it_o therefore_o please_v god_n to_o move_v upon_o all_o our_o heart_n to_o consider_v lay_v aside_o all_o carnal_a interest_n where_o the_o cause_n on_o either_o side_n be_v give_v and_o sith_o perhaps_o we_o be_v more_o quick_a sight_v about_o each_o other_o mistake_n then_o our_o own_o give_v i_o leave_v without_o offence_n to_o show_v brief_o what_o i_o conceive_v be_v real_o amiss_o on_o your_o part_n and_o i_o shall_v as_o willing_o consider_v what_o may_v fair_o be_v object_v concern_v we_o against_o that_o consideration_n first_o then_o when_o i_o look_v upon_o your_o reformation_n from_o papal_a error_n i_o can_v but_o hearty_o congratulate_v the_o piety_n and_o zeal_n of_o your_o martyr_n etc._n etc._n special_o in_o their_o be_v instrumental_a to_o bring_v that_o sacred_a institute_n of_o the_o lord_n table_n from_o under_o manifold_a corruption_n wherewith_o it_o have_v be_v encumber_v in_o the_o darkness_n of_o popery_n but_o yet_o withal_o i_o must_v needs_o condole_v their_o shortness_n in_o not_o look_v with_o like_a diligence_n to_o the_o pristine_a institution_n of_o sacred_a baptism_n by_o which_o oversight_n we_o which_o survive_v they_o be_v the_o more_o expose_v to_o our_o present_a distraction_n and_o i_o think_v i_o may_v say_v in_o this_o as_o david_n in_o another_o case_n because_o they_o do_v it_o not_o at_o the_o first_o therefore_o the_o lord_n make_v a_o breach_n upon_o we_o second_o when_o i_o consider_v the_o article_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n i_o think_v it_o very_o strange_a that_o we_o who_o agree_v so_o firm_o in_o they_o all_o save_v three_o or_o four_o and_o differ_v but_o in_o some_o point_n touch_v they_o neither_o shall_v not_o consider_v of_o some_o expedient_a to_o remove_v what_o obstruct_v our_o entire_a agreement_n may_v it_o therefore_o please_v your_o bishop_n with_o their_o brethren_n to_o admit_v of_o a_o friendly_a conference_n with_o our_o bishop_n and_o pastor_n to_o try_v if_o by_o any_o mean_n away_o may_v be_v find_v to_o bring_v we_o to_o brotherly_a concord_n for_o whatsoever_o have_v happen_v in_o the_o heat_n of_o disputation_n or_o fall_v from_o the_o pen_n of_o passionate_a writer_n on_o either-side_n yet_o be_v please_v to_o know_v we_o be_v no_o hater_n of_o the_o pious_a protestant_n but_o sincere_a lover_n of_o they_o and_o the_o truth_n by_o they_o maintain_v as_o indeed_o we_o ought_v to_o be_v of_o all_o who_o love_n christ_n though_o differ_v from_o we_o in_o many_o thing_n and_o though_o it_o be_v true_a we_o hold_v a_o separation_n from_o you_o in_o our_o congregation_n yet_o we_o do_v this_o of_o necessity_n because_o none_o among_o your_o leader_n will_v treat_v with_o we_o about_o the_o removal_n of_o those_o thing_n which_o do_v offend_v i_o confess_v to_o reform_v what_o be_v amiss_o on_o your_o part_n touch_v sacred_a baptism_n be_v a_o difficult_a undertake_n yet_o not_o more_o difficult_a than_o it_o be_v to_o reform_v what_o be_v amiss_o in_o the_o other_o sacrament_n whether_o we_o consider_v their_o error_n who_o for_o some_o hundred_o of_o year_n give_v it_o to_o infant_n or_o they_o who_o by_o their_o transubstantiation_n change_v the_o very_a nature_n of_o the_o sacrament_n but_o if_o no_o endeavout_n of_o this_o kind_n must_v be_v admit_v then_o be_o i_o out_o of_o hope_n ever_o to_o see_v christian_a concord_n among_o we_o for_o those_o coercive_a way_n which_o some_o incline_v to_o will_v but_o aggravate_v the_o breach_n which_o be_v too_o great_a already_o &_o render_v your_o cause_n the_o more_o suspicious_a and_o consequent_o more_o confirm_v we_o in_o our_o persuasion_n against_o your_o way_n now_o the_o lord_n himself_o direct_v we_o all_o to_o the_o way_n of_o truth_n and_o peace_n in_o all_o thing_n so_o pray_v you_o to_o love_v and_o serve_v you_o in_o christ_n as_o far_o as_o permit_v t._n g._n the_o epistle_n to_o the_o reader_n show_v the_o occasion_n of_o this_o disputation_n courteous_a reader_n disputation_n be_v not_o more_o hurtful_a when_o needless_a then_o profitable_a when_o necessity_n call_v for_o it_o and_o hereupon_o our_o lord_n christ_n himself_o be_v frequent_a in_o dispute_n about_o his_o doctrine_n this_o way_n go_v the_o apostle_n to_o try_v the_o matter_n in_o question_n about_o circumcision_n act_v 15._o and_o paul_n defend_v christianity_n by_o dispute_v daily_o in_o the_o school_n of_o one_o tyrannus_n act_n 19_o the_o occasion_n of_o the_o dispute_n at_o blyton_n september_n 18._o 1673._o be_v on_o this_o wise_a a_o small_a remnant_n of_o baptize_v christian_n meeting_n in_o that_o town_n it_o please_v mr._n fort_n minister_n of_o the_o perochial_a congregation_n there_o to_o come_v to_o their_o meeting_n and_o to_o hinder_v their_o proceed_n so_o that_o they_o can_v not_o edify_v one_o another_o as_o their_o manner_n be_v and_o this_o he_o do_v many_o time_n and_o tell_v they_o he_o be_v resolve_v they_o shall_v not_o meet_v in_o that_o town_n and_o when_o the_o baptist_n endeavour_v to_o maintain_v their_o principle_n he_o slight_v they_o say_v they_o be_v foolish_a man_n not_o fit_a to_o discourse_v of_o religion_n because_o they_o understand_v not_o the_o rule_n of_o logic_n etc._n etc._n but_o he_o bid_v they_o find_v he_o a_o man_n that_o have_v brain_n and_o understand_v the_o language_n and_o know_v logic_n and_o he_o will_v dispute_v with_o he_o they_o tell_v he_o they_o have_v few_o that_o understand_v these_o thing_n but_o he_o not_o cease_v to_o disturb_v they_o they_o consent_v to_o his_o motion_n and_o a_o day_n be_v appoint_v and_o because_o the_o baptist_n have_v not_o a_o convenient_a place_n mr._n fort_n provide_v a_o large_a room_n and_o send_v for_o they_o to_o come_v thither_o where_o himself_o with_o two_o other_o minister_n and_o divers_a of_o the_o neighbourhood_n be_v meet_v together_o for_o the_o account_n of_o the_o dispute_n itself_o take_v this_o information_n that_o much_o of_o it_o be_v here_o report_v according_a to_o what_o memory_n can_v serve_v in_o upon_o recogitation_n but_o yet_o be_v assure_v of_o this_o that_o for_o substance_n it_o be_v not_o alter_v by_o this_o account_n the_o argument_n vary_v very_o little_a or_o not_o at_o all_o from_o the_o very_a term_n wherein_o they_o be_v express_v in_o the_o dispute_n and_o mr._n fort_n be_v answer_n render_v rather_o more_o advantageous_a then_o in_o their_o first_o delivery_n if_o it_o seem_v strange_a that_o a_o person_n of_o such_o learning_n and_o gravity_n shall_v answer_v and_o argue_v with_o no_o more_o advantage_n to_o his_o cause_n the_o reader_n may_v take_v notice_n that_o god_n have_v say_v he_o will_v confound_v the_o wisdom_n of_o the_o wise_a and_o bring_v to_o nought_o the_o understanding_n of_o the_o prudent_a and_o when_o he_o do_v this_o then_o where_o be_v the_o scribe_n where_o be_v the_o disputer_n of_o this_o world_n now_o whereas_o in_o this_o dispute_n i_o have_v use_v th●_n method_n which_o