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A00639	A defence of the reasons of the counter-poyson, for maintenance of the eldership against an aunsvvere made to them by Doctor Copequot, in a publike sermon at Pawles Crosse, vpon Psal. 84. 1584. VVherein also according to his demaunde is proued syllogisticallie for the learned, and plainlie for all men, the perpetuitie of the elders office in the church.	Fenner, Dudley, 1558?-1587, attributed name.; Stoughton, William, fl. 1584, attributed name.; Jacob, Henry, 1563-1624, attributed name.	1586 (1586)	STC 10772; ESTC S112582	18,117	32

A DEFENCE OF THE REAsons of the Counter-poyson for maintenance of the Eldership against an aunsvvere made to them by Doctor Copequot in a publike Sermon at Pawles Crosse vpon Psal 84. 1584. VVherein also according to his demaunde is proued Syllogisticallie for the learned and plainlie for all men the perpetuitie of the Elders office in the Church 1586. To the Christian Reader I Must gentle Christian Reader declare two things for iustifying of this treatise following Firste why it came not out before then why it commeth out nowe Before the trueth is the author of the Counterpoyson neuer coulde gette the answeres in writing as nowe I haue got them He sawe notes of them taken by a Doctor of the ciuill Lawe which as he then saide made him rather thinke howe to contemne them then to answere them So this was the cause the author let it alone Since that time I my selfe haue fallen vppon the whole Sermon in writing so that it seemeth it goeth from hande to hande amongst those who delight in it It may be some perceyue not the weakenes of the answeares It may be some beleeue the slaunders and lies made in it both against the cause and the persons Wherefore to shewe the trueth of the cause and her strengthe against all her enimies newe or olde continued or relapsed to cleare the trueth from olde newe slaunderers I haue made the Defence following The Author of the Coūter-poyson I am sure will take it in good part This Defence the Author of the Aunswere may confute if he can Thou mayest iudge of both as Euidence of Reason shall leade thee The Lord graūt vs first to vnderstande his wil then to practise it ¶ That part of his sermon which concerned Discipline BVT what is saide of the Church of Englande Truely that it is no Church but after a sorte and why Because it lacked Discipline for so say the Papistes that it is not the true Church but secundum quid after a manner But what of this This is but a slaunder giuen to the church by them as a citie can not stande without Walles no more can a Church without Discipline yet sayeth the holy Father Maister Gualter writing vpon the Epistle to the Corinthians For lacke of Discipline no man ought to depart from the Church The same Father writing vppon the Epistle vnto the Galatians whiche is applied to Iames King of Sicile Ego si quis Disciplinae formam interrogat in omnibus gentibus eandem constitui non posse existimo I doo thinke that if any man doo aske of the forme of discipline that the same cannot be appointed in all Countries and Nations through the worlde In a Catechisme printed here at London not long agoe the Scottes Catechisme the question is asked What may the Eldership doe in the Church The answere is made againe Admitte vnto the Sacramentes and exclude from them according to God his worde Nowe as concerning Priestes it is saide that they are worthie of great prayse which doo their office iustlie And Saint Paule saith in his 5. Chap. 1. Timoth The Elders that rule well were worthie of double honour especially they which labour in the worde and doctrine we say the place is vnderstoode of the Preachers of the worde Peter Verides and Nicholas Emingius in the 133. pa. of their booke say That such Preistes are worthie of double honor There is one noted that when he was about the same matter and busines that there is spokē of he affirmeth the Testament of Reames neuer came into his hands and in deed I dare be bolde to say it did not for he inteprreteth the place that they Which labor are worthie of double honour but he did not speak of any Ministers saue only thē which preached the worde sincerilie Therefore he speaketh and maketh difference betweene Preacher Preacher I say not by the authoritie of the Testament of Reames but by the authoritie of holy Fathers or Prophetes which the Apostles doe note S. Augustine he asketh the question Qui non bene p 〈…〉 sunt but they which do not labor in their calling Chrisostome saith Bonus pastor vitam ponit pro ouibus A good Pastor will lay downe his life for his sheepe And againe saith Ciprian Boni fideles dispensatores duplici honore digni sunt S Ambrose sayth Praesbiteri qui bene praesunt vita doctrina duplicem moerentur honorem à subiectis quibus praesunt Presbiters and they that doe gouuerne well bothe in life and doctrine doe deserue double honour of those subihctes whome they rule so that here we may see he doth vnderstande the places of the preachers of the worde of God But they say if we should so expound it we should make the Apostle to goe backwarde and not forwarde Surelie nothing lesse for this is the sence that they which labour are worthie of double honour they which do not are worthy of none So that here we may see that the interpreter doth not expound this place after the Church of Rome or of Reams but S. Ambrose Chrisostome and Augustin Here we see that the Apostle doth seeme to make twoo kindes of miinsters The one which were occupied in the word but not wel why should that seme straūge to make two kindes of preachers or ministers For my part I wishe with all my harte that al that are placed in Englande were better then my self and that it were so through all Nations where the worde of God is preached and I pray to God that the Gospell of Iesus Christe were preached throughout the whole world The Apostle sayth that in his time there were many which laboured not so much as he I thanke God saith the Apostle I laboured better then they all yet they deserued honor but not so much as he because they laboured not so much as he for God hath not giuen to euery one the self same gifte Furthermore they define this worde labour is spoken to all as well that are able to doo most as those that are able to doe least Therefore the Apostle writinge to the Thess calleth them labourers although there were some which were wicked amongest them Furthermore they adde this distinction is dissolute and cleane voyde of true discipline if they bee but Ministers and take not so great paynes yet they are worthie of honour though not so great as the rest but of the honour of Widowes and he speaketh of honour of Widowes in Chap. 5. ver 1 2. Honor the elder women as mothers the yonger as sisters Honor Widowes whiche are widowes indeed The Apostle saith Rom. 12.6.7 Seing then that when we haue gifte c. And agayne in Epist 1. Cor. Cap. 12.28 God hath ordeined some in Churches as firste c. Therfore they say there must be presbiteries in the Churche but I doo not allowe of this their argument as they had Elders in the Church then so it must be nowe For the learned Father