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A87687 Baptism without bason. Or, Plain Scripture-proof against infant-baptism, I. By way of answer to Mr. Baxter's arguments, and to the exercitations of Mr. Sidenham, teacher to a church a[t] Newcastle, concerning infants baptism: for which that their pretended consequences are from concessions not to be granted, and from Scriptures as mistaken, and absolutely wrested, is clearly discovered. With II. Several questions and answers, positively holding out the minde of Christ in baptizing of believers onely; and that the magistrates may be induced more and more to encourage the preaching thereof in publike. III. A declaration written to the election of grace, who for want of information are of contrary judgment. Written by William Kaye, minister of the Gospel at Stokesley. Kaye, William. 1653 (1653) Wing K32; Thomason E715_13; ESTC R207264 49,935 54

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covenant_n that_o be_v temporal_a mercy_n and_o as_o it_o be_v the_o seal_n of_o abraham_n righteousness_n which_o he_o have_v before_o circumcision_n and_o not_o give_v by_o circumcision_n rom._n 4.10_o with_o who_o the_o covenant_n be_v first_o make_v to_o this_o i_o answer_v that_o circumcision_n as_o a_o seal_n relate_v to_o abraham_n hold_v forth_o god_n approbation_n of_o abraham_n as_o sign_n and_o miracle_n do_v confirm_v the_o approbation_n of_o the_o faith_n of_o the_o apostle_n mark_v 16.17_o and_o the_o conversion_n of_o the_o people_n be_v the_o seal_n or_o approbation_n of_o the_o ministry_n 1_o cor._n 9.2_o that_o therefore_o every_a one_o faith_n must_v be_v so_o confirm_v god_n not_o begin_v a_o administration_n or_o not_o make_v a_o original_a covenant_n with_o they_o but_o do_v for_o abraham_n sake_n or_o choose_v these_o apostle_n to_o be_v choose_v witness_n be_v neither_o consonant_n to_o scripture_n or_o reason_n so_o that_o the_o scripture_n in_o the_o old_a testament_n never_o speak_v more_o than_o that_o circumcision_n be_v a_o sign_n of_o the_o covenant_n make_v in_o the_o flesh_n gen._n 17.11_o and_o as_o it_o relate_v with_o respect_n of_o a_o particular_a application_n to_o abraham_n it_o be_v the_o seal_n of_o his_o righteousness_n which_o as_o i_o prove_v before_o be_v not_o by_o mean_n of_o circumcision_n and_o though_o we_o do_v disclaim_v abraham_n to_o be_v our_o father_n by_o circumcision_n in_o that_o thereby_o he_o be_v but_o a_o father_n of_o some_o nation_n all_o be_v jew_n or_o make_v jew_n by_o circumcision_n exod._n 12.48_o gen._n 17.15_o yet_o we_o do_v own_o abraham_n as_o to_o the_o example_n of_o faith_n as_o mr._n sidenham_n right_o state_v it_o to_o be_v our_o father_n from_o the_o oath_n and_o promise_n god_n make_v to_o abraham_n gen._n
22.16_o 17_o 18._o compare_v with_o gal._n 3.6_o 7_o 8_o 9_o rom._n 4.12_o 16._o now_o that_o abraham_n be_v a_o believer_n before_o gen._n 17._o so_o that_o god_n do_v bless_v abraham_n and_o that_o circumcision_n do_v seal_v his_o faith_n he_o have_v though_o not_o as_o the_o apostle_n say_v by_o circumcision_n rom._n 4.11_o i_o do_v grant_v but_o that_o god_n give_v abraham_n in_o circumcision_n more_o than_o abraham_n beg_v of_o god_n gen._n 15.3_o 48._o or_o that_o god_n do_v give_v abraham_n more_o than_o a_o inheritance_n of_o which_o circumcision_n be_v a_o token_n gen._n 17.4_o 11._o this_o i_o defend_v and_o that_o therefore_o circumcision_n be_v not_o a_o administration_n to_o make_v church-member_n i_o desire_v this_o be_v so_o much_o mistake_v to_o produce_v these_o reason_n to_o the_o contrary_n 1._o because_o they_o do_v not_o circumcise_v in_o the_o temple_n or_o by_o a_o priest_n but_o a_o woman_n exod._n 4.25_o and_o other_o do_v circumcise_v josh_n 5.3_o 2._o a_o stranger_n by_o circumcision_n be_v not_o say_v to_o be_v of_o the_o church_n but_o as_o one_o of_o the_o nation_n exod._n 12.48_o and_o if_o any_o refuse_v to_o be_v circumcise_v they_o be_v not_o to_o be_v excommunicate_v out_o of_o the_o church_n but_o to_o be_v cut_v off_o out_o of_o the_o nation_n gen._n 17.14_o and_o that_o the_o church_n be_v not_o the_o nation_n reason_v the_o seven_o prove_v 3._o the_o female_a be_v not_o circumcise_v and_o yet_o hanna_n and_o other_o woman_n be_v of_o the_o church_n and_o if_o in_o the_o man_n the_o woman_n may_v be_v admit_v into_o the_o church_n why_o may_v not_o the_o woman_n in_o the_o man_n be_v baptize_v and_o receive_v the_o lord_n supper_n since_o they_o will_v have_v baptism_n to_o succeed_v circumcision_n 4._o because_o god_n say_v that_o the_o covenant_n of_o which_o circumcision_n be_v a_o sign_n gen._n 17.11_o be_v a_o covenant_n in_o the_o flesh_n gen._n 17.13_o and_o god_n do_v never_o promise_v more_o than_o a_o temporal_a inheritance_n in_o that_o covenant_n gen._n 15.3.18_o compare_v with_o gen._n 17.3_o 4_o 5_o 8._o 5._o in_o the_o case_n of_o dinah_n marry_v with_o sichem_n all_o that_o be_v desire_v of_o he_o be_v this_o that_o they_o shall_v be_v one_o people_n if_o sichem_n etc._n etc._n will_v be_v circumcise_v which_o be_v do_v without_o any_o change_n of_o religion_n gen._n 34.22_o 24._o and_o though_o it_o may_v be_v suppose_v as_o we_o do_v with_o our_o child_n they_o will_v endeavour_v to_o learn_v they_o and_o make_v they_o submit_v to_o their_o religion_n yet_o all_o this_o endeavour_v like_o the_o pain_n that_o we_o take_v in_o the_o nurture_n and_o admonition_n of_o our_o child_n do_v not_o admit_v or_o make_v they_o visible_a church-member_n but_o only_o make_v preparation_n for_o their_o admission_n as_o the_o next_o reason_n will_v full_o clear_v it_o 6._o because_o to_o the_o jew_n god_n say_v gather_v my_o saint_n together_o unto_o i_o those_o that_o have_v make_v a_o covenant_n with_o i_o by_o sacifice_n psal_n 50.5_o and_o zeph._n 3.9_o it_o be_v prophesy_v both_o of_o jew_n and_o christian_n that_o they_o shall_v serve_v god_n with_o one_o consent_n therefore_o child_n not_o sacrifice_v whereby_o there_o may_v be_v a_o visible_a appearance_n of_o faith_n and_o repentance_n and_o they_o not_o be_v willing_a or_o know_v to_o serve_v god_n with_o one_o consent_n can_v not_o be_v of_o the_o visible_a gather_a church_n or_o they_o be_v not_o visible_a church-member_n for_o to_o make_v a_o visible_a church_n member_n there_o must_v be_v something_o appear_v in_o the_o party_n that_o be_v to_o be_v admit_v so_o as_o to_o give_v his_o consent_n but_o in_o a_o child_n we_o have_v or_o see_v nothing_o that_o represent_v the_o face_n of_o a_o church-member_n 7._o child_n by_o circumcision_n be_v not_o make_v church-member_n because_o after_o they_o have_v be_v circumcise_v they_o be_v present_v unto_o the_o lord_n in_o the_o temple_n and_o our_o saviour_n do_v no_o more_o for_o they_o when_o they_o be_v bring_v unto_o he_o then_o bless_v they_o by_o pray_v for_o they_o mat._n 19_o 8._o god_n be_v say_v to_o have_v a_o church_n in_o the_o wilderness_n act._n 7.38_o and_o yet_o for_o forty_o year_n together_o they_o be_v not_o circumcise_v and_o therefore_o circumcision_n make_v not_o a_o church_n if_o baptism_n as_o mr._n sidenham_n say_v do_v not_o make_v one_o for_o so_o he_o say_v pag._n 166._o baptism_n do_v not_o form_v a_o church_n 9_o because_o the_o gentile_n have_v a_o church_n as_o mr._n baxter_n have_v notable_o prove_v by_o job_n etc._n etc._n and_o abraham_n be_v of_o the_o church_n before_o and_o yet_o the_o gentile_n be_v never_o circumcise_v and_o abraham_n have_v not_o be_v circumcise_v but_o that_o god_n make_v circumcision_n a_o sign_n of_o the_o covenant_n which_o be_v to_o give_v he_o a_o seed_n by_o sarah_n and_o to_o make_v he_o a_o father_n and_o sarah_n a_o mother_n of_o divers_a nation_n gen._n 17.6_o 16._o for_o as_o all_o nation_n whether_o jew_n or_o gentile_n be_v bless_v in_o abraham_n this_o be_v not_o by_o circumcision_n but_o by_o oath_n and_o promise_n make_v to_o abraham_n gen._n 22._o ●6_n 17_o 18._o as_o the_o apostle_n gal._n 3.9_o compare_v with_o heb._n 6.13_o 14._o full_o declare_v and_o therefore_o we_o do_v not_o look_v at_o circumcision_n that_o it_o do_v admit_v unto_o the_o church_n or_o that_o baptism_n shall_v succeed_v it_o circumcision_n relate_v to_o temporal_a promise_n 10._o because_o these_o word_n in_o the_o covenant_n whereof_o circumcision_n be_v a_o sign_n i_o will_v be_v thy_o god_n and_o o_o thy_o seed_n after_o thou_o be_v only_o speak_v of_o god_n that_o he_o may_v manifest_v himself_o to_o be_v a_o god_n in_o providence_n to_o make_v his_o temporal_a promise_n good_a to_o abraham_n and_o such_o stranger_n that_o shall_v sojourn_v with_o he_o god_n except_v against_o none_o in_o circumcision_n as_o he_o do_v in_o point_n of_o salvation_n and_o therefore_o god_n express_o declare_v his_o meaning_n that_o in_o respect_n of_o the_o covenant_n whereof_o circumcision_n be_v a_o sign_n he_o be_v their_o god_n to_o make_v good_a his_o promise_n to_o give_v they_o the_o land_n of_o canaan_n levit._n 26.44_o 45._o and_o in_o that_o he_o condemn_v and_o take_v away_o this_o circumcision_n make_v a_o new_a covenant_n not_o according_a to_o the_o old_a covenant_n declare_v that_o the_o old_a covenant_n have_v no_o spiritual_a promise_n heb._n 8.6_o 7_o 8_o 9_o 11._o that_o mr._n sidenham_n and_o mr._n baxter_n make_v circumcision_n to_o bring_v child_n into_o the_o church_n be_v but_o from_o their_o own_o wrest_a consequence_n for_o there_o be_v no_o such_o scripture_n that_o say_v circumcision_n make_v a_o child_n a_o member_n of_o the_o church_n neither_o be_v there_o any_o scripture_n that_o can_v prove_v circumcision_n a_o covenant_n of_o pure_a grace_n or_o that_o baptism_n do_v succeed_v it_o upon_o which_o they_o ground_n their_o conclusion_n or_o consequence_n 12._o if_o baptism_n shall_v succeed_v circumcision_n than_o it_o can_v not_o be_v say_v that_o baptism_n be_v the_o like_a figure_n of_o noah_n ark_n 1_o pet._n 1.21_o in_o which_o there_o be_v no_o child_n nor_o do_v any_o enter_n into_o it_o but_o such_o as_o believe_v the_o word_n preach_v unto_o they_o 13._o they_o be_v debtor_n to_o the_o law_n not_o by_o covenant_n or_o contract_n the_o law_n be_v make_v four_o hundred_o and_o forty_o year_n after_o circumcision_n gal._n 3.17_o and_o therefore_o they_o be_v debtor_n to_o the_o law_n by_o consequence_n as_o a_o thing_n that_o follow_v and_o be_v after_o impose_v upon_o the_o people_n so_o that_o they_o be_v not_o circumcise_v upon_o that_o account_n 14._o they_o be_v twice_o circumcise_v the_o first_o time_n in_o token_n they_o shall_v inherit_v the_o promise_a land_n and_o the_o second_o time_n as_o be_v come_v to_o possess_v it_o joshua_n 5.2_o therefore_o circumcision_n do_v not_o make_v they_o church-member_n the_o great_a thing_n then_o which_o mr._n sidenham_n pag._n 9_o speak_v of_o in_o this_o controversy_n the_o nature_n of_o the_o covenant_n be_v full_o and_o plain_o discover_v it_o be_v too_o apparent_a that_o he_o have_v be_v too_o much_o disciple_v by_o the_o jewish_a rabbis_n in_o make_v the_o covenant_n by_o their_o tradition_n and_o doctrine_n great_a than_o ever_o god_n intend_v it_o whereby_o the_o promise_n and_o oath_n god_n make_v to_o abraham_n whereby_o he_o be_v the_o father_n of_o the_o faithful_a have_v be_v over-looked_n therefore_o mr._n sidenham_n fail_v to_o make_v good_a his_o hinge_n and_o main_a weight_n in_o think_v to_o make_v all_o promise_n to_o abraham_n as_o father_n to_o the_o faithful_a to_o be_v hold_v out_o in_o circumcision_n and_o that_o it_o be_v a_o seal_n of_o the_o covenant_n
and_o baptism_n a_o seal_n of_o the_o new_a covenant_n in_o all_o which_o his_o error_n and_o mistake_n have_v be_v plain_o discover_v yet_o i_o will_v not_o have_v mr._n sidenham_n or_o any_o of_o his_o judgement_n to_o think_v that_o i_o have_v deny_v he_o that_o which_o may_v be_v some_o have_v or_o he_o have_v expect_v to_o have_v grant_v he_o as_o i_o shall_v ready_o have_v do_v if_o it_o have_v be_v god_n truth_n in_o relation_n to_o the_o covenant_n whereof_o circumcision_n be_v the_o sign_n as_o though_o if_o mr._n sidenhams_n and_o mr._n baxters_n consequence_n be_v grant_v he_o he_o can_v thereby_o prove_v his_o infant-baptism_n for_o this_o i_o say_v that_o though_o he_o be_v certain_a that_o a_o child_n be_v in_o the_o new_a covenant_n of_o the_o gospel_n yet_o no_o visible_a fruit_n of_o holiness_n of_o profession_n of_o faith_n conversation_n and_o willing_a desire_n of_o baptism_n be_v make_v to_o appear_v secret_a thing_n belong_v unto_o god_n and_o we_o be_v command_v as_o any_o shall_v be_v disciple_v to_o baptize_v they_o it_o be_v not_o in_o mr._n sidenham_n etc._n etc._n to_o gainsay_v christ_n will_n and_o power_n to_o make_v the_o admission_n into_o the_o church_n according_a as_o he_o fanci_v by_o any_o pretend_a pretence_n consequence_n or_o precedent_n or_o to_o admit_v a_o child_n or_o ignorant_a person_n not_o be_v by_o christ_n tolerate_v see_v according_a to_o his_o own_o pretend_a light_n he_o do_v not_o regulate_v circumcision_n to_o a_o former_a administration_n neither_o be_v there_o any_o scripture_n to_o prove_v that_o baptism_n succee_v circumcision_n but_o both_o by_o command_n and_o example_n the_o scripture_n do_v prove_v the_o contrary_a therefore_o in_o the_o simplicity_n of_o the_o gospel_n except_o mr._n s._n will_v flee_v from_o scripture_n and_o justify_v the_o fall_n away_o from_o the_o faith_n so_o that_o in_o this_o point_n of_o infant-baptism_n he_o shall_v comply_v with_o the_o tradition_n of_o popery_n he_o have_v hitherto_o produce_v nothing_o to_o uphold_v his_o controversy_n in_o this_o great_a thing_n foundation_n and_o hinge_n which_o i_o have_v answer_v to_o proceed_v then_o mr._n s._n p._n 22._o infant_n if_o believer_n be_v never_o cast_v out_o of_o the_o visible_a church_n of_o christ_n of_o which_o they_o be_v once_o in_o answ_n according_a to_o that_o maxim_n omnis_fw-la privatio_fw-la implicat_fw-la habitum_fw-la you_o know_v that_o every_o dispossession_n impli_v a_o possession_n infant_n can_v therefore_o be_v cast_v out_o of_o the_o church_n before_o he_o can_v prove_v they_o admit_v and_o if_o mr._n s._n or_o any_o man_n live_v can_v tell_v we_o by_o what_o visible_a administration_n child_n be_v admit_v visible_a church-member_n before_o the_o time_n of_o abraham_n or_o in_o the_o gentile_n church_n or_o by_o what_o scripture_n they_o be_v say_v to_o be_v admit_v member_n by_o cirumcision_n i_o shall_v admire_v he_o and_o they_o and_o acknowledge_v their_o discovery_n desire_v he_o till_o than_o not_o to_o conclude_v that_o we_o do_v cast_v they_o out_o or_o deny_v they_o any_o thing_n that_o can_v be_v conscientious_o grant_v they_o mr._n s._n chap._n 4._o p._n 30._o in_o that_o mr._n sidenham_n do_v make_v a_o twofold_a distinction_n of_o be_v in_o covenant_n in_o relation_n to_o the_o election_n of_o grace_n and_o second_o to_o be_v in_o covenant_n in_o fancy_n visibilis_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la answ_n to_o this_o i_o answer_v first_o that_o only_o the_o elect_a be_v in_o covenant_n of_o save_a faith_n which_o be_v call_v as_o he_o say_v by_o divine_n intentional_o in_o covenant_n as_o god_n intend_v only_o to_o save_v they_o i_o agree_v only_o this_o may_v be_v observe_v 1._o that_o the_o election_n of_o grace_n be_v not_o by_o the_o covenant_n whereof_o circumcision_n be_v a_o sign_n 2._o that_o if_o upon_o this_o account_n that_o be_v predestination_n we_o shall_v look_v on_o child_n than_o child_n of_o believer_n as_o well_o as_o believer_n papist_n turk_n and_o infidel_n may_v be_v in_o the_o election_n even_o before_o they_o be_v call_v and_o yet_o this_o will_v give_v no_o liberty_n to_o child_n until_o their_o secret_a election_n be_v make_v visible_o appear_v through_o a_o gracious_a call_n act._n 2.38_o 2._o in_o that_o mr._n s._n tell_v we_o that_o there_o be_v a_o be_v in_o covenant_n in_o fancy_n visibilis_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la in_o the_o face_n of_o a_o visible_a church_n i_o confess_v that_o a_o visible_a church_n shall_v have_v a_o race_n so_o that_o they_o may_v see_v hear_v and_o speak_v with_o one_o another_o to_o yield_v up_o themselves_o to_o serve_v god_n with_o one_o consent_n zeph._n 3.9_o but_o how_o he_o will_v make_v infant_n in_o swadling-clout_n such_o visible_a member_n i_o know_v not_o for_o want_v of_o such_o a_o face_n of_o the_o church_n mr._n s._n i_o suppose_v exclude_v infant_n from_o the_o lord_n supper_n though_o he_o confess_v that_o thereby_o the_o church_n be_v make_v one_o body_n pag._n 169._o and_o so_o do_v the_o apostle_n 1_o cor._n 10.17_o and_o i_o do_v absolute_o deny_v that_o ever_o there_o be_v any_o such_o covenant_n by_o virtue_n of_o which_o god_n say_v a_o child_n shall_v be_v count_v a_o member_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n therefore_o mr._n s_n scripture_n to_o prove_v that_o by_o covenant_n child_n be_v bring_v into_o the_o church_n be_v to_o be_v examine_v 1._o as_o to_o that_o place_n rom._n 9.4_o which_o mr._n s._n produce_v i_o answer_v that_o it_o only_o hold_v forth_o the_o several_a privilege_n belong_v to_o the_o jew_n but_o do_v not_o hint_n so_o much_o as_o one_o word_n that_o by_o circumcision_n child_n be_v bring_v in_o fancy_n visibilis_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la or_o make_v member_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n 2._o to_o that_o place_n deut._n 29.10_o 12_o 13_o 14._o i_o answer_v it_o be_v not_o at_o all_o prove_v that_o circumcision_n do_v at_o all_o relate_v to_o religion_n but_o that_o god_n say_v that_o he_o will_v make_v they_o a_o people_n as_o he_o promise_v gen._n 17.6_o 16._o to_o make_v abraham_n a_o father_n of_o many_o nation_n and_o so_o sarah_n shall_v be_v a_o mother_n of_o many_o nation_n as_o i_o have_v prove_v before_o of_o which_o covenant_n circumcision_n be_v the_o sign_n 3._o to_o that_o place_n joh._n 15.2_o and_o job_n 1.11_o i_o can_v see_v the_o least_o conjecture_n of_o a_o covenant_n 4._o to_o the_o last_o place_n psal_n 50.5_o gather_v my_o saint_n together_o that_o be_v make_v a_o visible_a church_n this_o i_o acknowledge_v but_o that_o any_o child_n be_v gather_v the_o next_o word_n tell_v he_o who_o they_o be_v that_o god_n will_v have_v gather_v even_o such_o as_o have_v make_v a_o covenant_n with_o sacrifice_n not_o such_o as_o be_v of_o the_o covenant_n whereof_o circumcision_n be_v but_o a_o sign_n but_o such_o as_o have_v make_v a_o covenant_n with_o i_o say_v god_n in_o sacrifice_n so_o that_o we_o find_v no_o shadow_n of_o proof_n in_o the_o place_n produce_v by_o m._n s._n 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