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A02779	A discoursiue probleme concerning prophesies how far they are to be valued, or credited, according to the surest rules, and directions in diuinitie, philosophie, astrologie, and other learning: deuised especially in abatement of the terrible threatenings, and menaces, peremptorily denounced against the kingdoms, and states of the world, this present famous yeere, 1588, supposed the greatwonderfull, and fatall yeere of our age. By I.H. physition.	Harvey, John, 1564-1592.	1588 (1588)	STC 12908; ESTC S103904	90,621	134

second daies worke of such as should consequently happen in the second thousand yéeres and so foorth of the residue euen to the accomplishment of 6000. yéeres at which period the eternall Requies or Sabaoth of the Lord should finally ensue and gloriously appeere euen as after sixe daies worke he staied or rested at the first and as sithence our Sabaoth which is a reuerend figure of that great euerlasting Sabaoth after euery sixe daies successiuely approcheth Now what is this I pray you to make the most or best of it but a plaine Allegoricall or Typicall allusion to that Opus sex dierum as also to the words of the kingly prophet Dauid Psal 90. 4. and of the blessed Apostle Peter Epist. 2. Cap. 3. 8. Vnus dies apud Dominum perinde vt 1000. anni 1000. anni vt dies vnus or what but a probable surmize and opinitiue collection coniecturally drawne from the literal pretext of those texts Which in my simple conceit cannot sufficiently be warranted by any sound and cléere iudgement but may rather be déemed fantasticall So that whatsoeuer Moses Gerundinensis or any other Thalmudist or Cabalist or Rabin yea or S. Ierome himselfe or Osiander or Melancthon or any other later Diuine or Humanitian hath hitherto published by way of subscription or maintenance to this effect I well may for ought I sée or heare or can learne to the contrarie be resolutely persuaded that this was originally deuised but as a coniecturall fansie and is presently to be regarded but as a méere Cabalisticall tradition and vncertaine collection of mans inuention without any further diuine instinct angelicall illumination or propheticall gift of foreknowledge either mediate or immediate either sensible or intellectuall Had it béene the prophesie of the true Séer of God Eliah the Tishbite as I am verily persuaded that it would then haue fallen out more certaine in Consequence without any further difference in time or difficultie of sense so am I as vndoubtedly assured that we should not haue wanted some other autentique records and testimonials therof than from those obscure Rabines or rather Rapines which the blinde Thalmudists haue fantastically set abroach amongst other dregs and lées of that superstitious brewing And doth not their owne weary continuall expectation of the Messias euen to this day as though he were not yet come into the world too too sensibly and palpably confute either the prediction it selfe or at least confound their owne preiudiciall opinion and conceit thereof Howheit they haue also imagined a new figment and sithence that first haue eftsoones harped vpon another and another string but alas what became of those woonderfull changes and huge alterations which their fained counterfet Messias should afterwarde haue wrought Sub ducentesimo Cyolo Solari Is not their conceited estimation of their said Solary Cycle as true as the Consequent Or hath not the finall euent héere likewise miserably frustrated their forlorne and wretched expectations Doth there yet remaine any other great reason or weightie authority to mooue or persuade such as first conceiued so great opinion of this pettie Elias so resolutely imbraced his cōceit as deuoid of al deceit or error If they estéemed it but as a probable collection I would peraduenture not greatly resist or if they regarded it onely as a sensible or reasonable likelihood I could haply in sort yéeld vnto them but whiles they recount it aboue exception and value it as most precious and infallible where is their Canonical warrantize or inuincible Demonstration This me séemeth I may auerre that the final concordance harmonie and mutuall consent which some will néedes inforce betwéene it and holy writ as if for sooth it were first gleaned out of that sacred field or deriued from that pure fountaine or at least iustifiable by that sure warrant is not onely not equall and sound but erronious and somwhat too superstitious for touching the last part or clause of this prophesie which some haue thus englished But for our sinnes which are many and maruellous some yeeres which are wanting shall not be expired and so comparatiuely alluded vnto those words of Christ in the 24. chapt of Mathew And except those daies were shortened all flesh should perish but for the Elects sake they shall be cut off which words in their opinion is a sufficient establishment of that doctrine as in maner it were if the presumed translation were autenticall it is a manifest cléere case that their interpretation is not onely discrepant from the intention of the Rabines thēselues but repugnant euen to the true letter legitimate sense of their Hebrew Ideome which as it was before declared soundeth thus no otherwise in our vulgar toong But for our sinnes which are many those yeeres are already passed which are passed Which sense may likewise be probably insinuated by this circumstance that as well the Hierosolimitan as Babylonian Thalmud wherein this oracle is recorded as also a thousand fables semblably inserted were first intituled of the Thalmudists themselues according to their owne supputations compared with our Christian Epocha the one 300. yéeres the other 400. yéeres after the time of Christs crucifixion at which time perceiuing manifestly that their date was expired and imagining that there came no such sauiour or redéemer according to their expectation grounded vpon this prediction with a kind of penitent and solemne confession after their maner they complained thereof in this clause and imputed the mishap or miscasualtie vnto the multitude of their owne transgressions and trespasses To which construction or exposition subscribeth the most excellent philosopher reputed Phoenix of Europe or at least of Italie Ioannes Picus Mirandula besides Pollustius I. F. and sundry other of speciall reckoning in philosophie and other learning Lo then the authoritie and credit as well of the thing published as of the publishers or rather Publicans themselues Lo the effects of such causes and the fruits of such trées Howbeit in truth we cannot accuse their Doctors of méere falshood whilest they alledge for their reason and excuse that the Messias came not bicause of their manifold offences and sinnes for neither came he indéed vnto them which acknowledged him not neither shall he be a professed Messias or Sauiour vnto those which confessed him not Nay shall not his comming and going be as coles of consuming fire vpon their heads which receiued not their owne when he came and dwelt amongst them but refused the head stone of the corner misused and punished the innocent and immaculate blood as a théefe or murtherer or notorious felon and most traiterously and villanously crucified their owne king vpon the crosse Wherefore many shall come from the east and from the west and from all nations vnder the sunne and sit downe with Abraham Isaac and Iacob in the kingdome of heauen when the children of the kingdome shall be expulsed and thrust out into vtter darknes where shall be lamentable wéeping and wailing and gnashing of

téeth Now concerning the credit estimation and authoritie of the ancient fathers and other learned Diuines at first mentioned which some haply may and will no doubt cast in my dish as mightie supporters of this Iewish monument whose affirmatiue censures haue already persuaded diuers and shall doubtlesse still preuaile and passe for currant verities amongst many without any further or déeper inquirie either into their Chronologicall reckonings or Theologicall expositions albeit otherwise for their other notable learning profound iudgement renowned works and Christian paines woorthie eternall memorie I must reuerence their names and honour their spirituall gifts yet in this one point I cannot in reason or conscience according to science but as well suspect their Diuinitie as mislike their chronologie the first being in sort as contradictorie to the prescript word of the Gospell according to Saint Marke Cap. 13 vers 33. Watch and pray for ye know not when the time shall be as the other is varying and dissonant from that account which is now Vnanimi consensu receiued for the surest and truest computation They will néedes soueraignly allow of the prophesie of Elias and what a gods name but that or who but he The world this whole world must néedsly end at or before 6000. yéeres why man doth not he which is not woont to lie doth not the great prophet doth not Elias himselfe say so Indéed it were a sufficient argument of diuine authoritie if they could substantially prooue that the very Canonicall Eliah had spoken or written it but in the meane while peruse some of their owne writings research their antiquities compare their chronologies examine their records and registers and shall you not find according to the historical Computes euen of sundry these fauorites that there are alreadie passed aboue 6000. yéeres yea and according to other some of their adherents aboue 7000. yéeres sithence the worlds creation to these daies wherein we liue How such reckonings and summings hang togither let them consider which ascribe so much vnto antique names and make so high account of the outward superficiall barke of forged words but what néedeth any further inuectiue or refutation Is not the sentence of their owne mouth a sufficient proofe against them If the prophesie of Elias be vndoubtedly true these reckonings must doubtlesse be false but if these reckonings be certainly false shall therefore the prophesie of Elias be certainly true That followeth not by any diuine or humane rule of reasonable consequence but therefore they are both false bicause they as well swarue from the right compasse of approoued allowance in humanitie as also bicause they cannot indure the infallible touch stone of diuinitie being onely phantastically builded vpon the sandy foundation of mans conceite whose essential substance is ignorance and whose inseparable accident is error Quis enim non fallitur For who is not misaduised or deceiued otherwhiles Or who assuredly knoweth what shall befall him vnder the Sunne Then as concerning the answere of the angell Vriell vnto that profound question and mystical Probleme of Esdras Whether there were more quantitie of time to come than was past or more quantitie of time past than was to come which text is imagined to be a perfect proofe and inuincible confirmation of the assertion or position of Eliah whereby shuld appéer that the time future after Esdras was not likely to be comparable vnto that which had passed before him As I may probably and lawfully doubt with S. Hierome other notable diuines whether the doctrine it selfe be Canonicall and aboue all exception wholy irreprehensible so I no lesse reasonably perswade my selfe that it cannot be so warrantably alleadged in maintenance of Elias tradition as some to that purpose haue quoted it for although it may likewise appéere thereby that the world is now in the decaying or decrepit yéeres and euen almost at the last cast as they say which by the founder doctrine of the Euangelistes and Apostles themselues is also ratified yet forsomuch as there is here a generall verdict giuen out and that onely by way of question and indefinite comparison not any farther speciall sentence pronounced by way of decision or definitiue iudgement how shall this interrogatiue affirmation and irresolute resolution be auerred to confirme or determine that certaine number and expresse continuance of 6000. yéeres Nay if we precisely respect the iust degrée of comparison and right proportion of the Analogy which argueth as much difference or distance betwéene the time past and the time to come as is betwéene a great water and a little or betwéene a great fire and a little shall we not by chronologicall subduction infer a farre more discrepant conclusion and in truth a farre greater confusion than is yet mentioned But there is also another Apocriphal reuelation touching the worlds durabilitie which God himselfe is reported to haue declared and intimated vnto the saide Esdras out of a bush in this form or tenor of words The world hath lost his youth and the times or ages are waxen old for the world is diuided into twelue parts and ten parts are gone thereof already and halfe of the tenth part also and there remaineth onely that which is after the halfe of the tenth part therefore set thy house in order and so foorth Go to now is there any greater concordance or Synchronisme betwéene the prophesie of Elias and this text than is argued betwéene the same and the former Or rather shall we not finde a greater discrepance incongruence if we search the matter to the quicke Let the diuision of those twelue partes be made according to the number of the yéeres of Elias as it néeds must in case that be the certaine number of the worlds age and shall not euery part containe iust 500. yeeres Of which if we take away ten parts that is ten times 500. and halfe the tenth part that is halfe 500. which is 200. 50 shuld there not remaine from the time of that reuelation to Esdras vnto the perfect consummation of this world aboue 700. and 50. yéeres Which being added to 3500. yéers about which time Ab orbe condito Esdras florished do they produce any more in the totall sum than 4250. yéeres At which periode the extréeme and final conflagration should haue kindled had this prophesie of Esdras and that of Elias béene agréeably consonant and vniforme Wherefore the grosse and notorious difference of 1030. yéeres which is alreadie passed betwéene them must of necessitie condemne the one but vnto which the more credite is to be yéelded let other iudge one of the two must néedesly be granted either that the Iewish Elias was no true prophet or that he who instructed Esdras was no true God The resolution I leaue as well to the priuate consideration of euery christian conceite as to the publike determination of the church Other circumstances and appendences might be probably interlaced touching this pretended oracle in effect nothing differing from the like