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A47376 An answer to such objections as were made by some commoners of Lincoln-shire and presented to both houses at the first sitting of this Parliament against Robert, Earle of Lindesey, and his participants concerning the draining of those fenns which lye between Lincolne, Berne, & Boston / set forth by Sir Will. Killigrew, Knight. Killigrew, William, Sir, 1606-1695. 1647 (1647) Wing K454; ESTC R6406 7,814 18

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