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A77739 A confutation of the Anabaptists, and all others who affect not civill government; proving the lawfullnesse of it: and a full answer to all their cavills, that are, or can be made against it. With a nut-cracker for an unnaturall nut, whose shell is as hard as the scales of Leviathan, and the kernell of his heart as hard as a piece of the nether mill-stone, Iob 41.15.24. yet the hammer of Gods word that breaketh in pieces the rocks, Ier. 23.29. will break this nut, that all may see the devillish kernell that is in it. Also arguments against the Anabaptists, proving that infants borne of Christian parents ought to be baptized: with a full answer to all their cavills that are (or can be) made against it. Imprimatur Ja. Cranford. Bakewell, Thomas, b. 1618 or 19. 1644 (1644) Wing B530; Thomason E51_20; ESTC R209932 98,225 89

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with the paine of it Now the evill of sinne that is in the eye should offend us as much as the evill of punishment in the tooth and we should use all means to remove it as Iob did to make a Covenant with his eyes not to looke upon a maid Job 31.1 That is we should bind our eyes with the cords of a Covenant from lusting and we should bind our feet from carrying us into temptations see vers 5.7 And we should keep our mouth as it were with a bridle Psalm 39.1 And because our sins are too strong for us we should therefore pray the Lord to turne our eyes from beholding vanity Psalm 119.37 Thus when all meanes are used to reclame our members from sin and nothing will do it thou hadst better plucke out thy eye and cut off both hands and feet then to employ them in the service of the Divell to thy eternall ruine of body and soule Againe if wee should lose a member here we should have it restored againe at the Resurrection day therefore that Bishop who had subscribed with his hand against God when the Lord opened his eyes to see what he had done he suffered for the truth and caused that hand to be burnt off which had so offended both against God and against himselfe yet I say againe if it be possible we must save the member as Paul saith no man ever yet hated his owne flesh Ephes 5.29 For we see if a man have got a hurt in his hand or foot he will use all means that may be to heal it to save his hand or foote but when nothing will do it he will rather cut it off then endure the paine and endanger his whole body For if one part of the body be in paine there is no part of the body free saith Christ if thy eye be evill thy whole body is full of darknesse Math. 6.23 That is if the eye of the body be not good to see the whole body is in danger in all places to be hurt and so the eye of the soule which is the understanding if that be not cleare the soule is in danger to be split on many rocks but let us come to Nuts exposition which is this if thine eye be evill thy whole body is full of darknesse This eye saith he is the Minister or the Watchman the which if he be blind all the Anabaptists are blind also and if he be evill then the rest cannot be good he said before that if one member did offend he must be cut off or else all the Anabaptists must perish in hell fire and here he saith if one be evill all are so if one be blinde all are blinde then I reply upon him thus that if they be all alike that if there be one bad there is none good then why should another be cast into hell to save Nut when he is as bad himselfe wel Christ saith if thy eye thy hand and thy foot offend thee do so and so but saith Nut to Christ againe if thy eye or thy hand or thy foot offend thee do so and so which shewes plainely to all men that his eye is as blinde as a beetle to discerne spirituall things Again how will Nut construe this word two eyes two hands and two feete in the my sticall body of Christ so that if one be cut off there is but one remaining and againe which is the right eye and which is the left in the my sticall body of Christ I thinke all the braines that is in this Nut knowes not how to give an answer to these things but suppose they have two teachers whom they call their eyes suppose one of these offend and be excommunicated and the other dye in the mean time and so leave them all starke blind And so the blind lead the blind till they all fall into the ditch I hope they will not provide more eyes then they have holes to put them in so that when one is gone to clap another into the hole Thus we may see the folly of Nuts exposition who would see by another mans eyes but we must all appear before the judgement feate of Christ and receive according to what is done in our owne body not according to what was done in another mans body Well thus you see that Christ here speaketh of our naturall members that in case nothing will take off those sinfull corruptions that naturally cleave to them those naturall members had better be cut off in this life then that the whole man should perish eternally so that neither politicall nor mysticall members but naturall members are meant in this place But will Nut say it is a great absurdity when the body is maimed that the soule should enter into life In this he declares himselfe to be as blinde as a beetle for all the members at the resurrection shal be restored againe perfectly but this man sees with another mans eyes and not with his owne I may suppose this is the cause why they will not allow of wars under the Gospell lest they should lose a member and so go lame to heaven He makes another absurdity saying if those corruptions that cleave to our members offend us then we must cut them off but if they do not offend us we must not cut them off and we may enter into life with our corruptions if so be they doe not offend us I answer men are of two sorts either in the state of grace or in the state of nature Now for those in the state of grace who have a new life wrought in them and they have given their members as servants to Christ Rom. 6. It must needs grieve them when those members shall act any sin saith Paul I keepe my body under and bring it in subjection 1 Cor. 9.27 Yet saith he this law of sinne that is in my members warreth against the law of my mind and against his will leads him into the law of sin Rom. 7.23 Yet when he cannot subdue those corruptions in his members it appeares plainely that they did offend him else what makes him cry out O wretched man that I am who shall deliver me vers 24. And although it be said if they do offend yet t●●s is not alwayes a word of diffidence as appeares by such places as these If God be God follow him 1 Kings 18.21 If I be a Father where is mine honour If I be a Master where is my feare Mal. 1.6 If God spared not the old world 2 Pet. 2.4 So here if thy eye hand or foote offend thee these are not words of of diffidence but of certainty only the doubt may arise from this whether thou art converted or not the which if thou be not thou art dead in sins and trespasses and past feeling and not capable to be offended at the sin of thy members Now these are not here in dispute being unbeleevers they are damier already John 3.18 Is Nut so blind
A Confutation of the ANABAPTISTS AND All others who affect not Civill Government Proving the lawfulnesse of it and a full Answer to all their Cavills that are or can be made against it WITH A Nut-cracker for an unnaturall Nut whose Shell is as hard as the Scales of Leviathan and the kernell of his heart as hard as a piece of the nether Mill-stone Iob 41.15.24 yet the hammer of Gods Word that breaketh in pieces the Rocks Ier. 23.29 will break this Nut that all may see the devillish kernell that is in it Also Arguments against the Anabaptists proving that Infants borne of Christian Parents ought to be Baptized With a full Answer to all their Cavills that are or can be made against it Imprimatur Ja. Cranford And thou Ezra after the wisedome of thy God that is in thine hand set Magistrates and Iudges which may Iudge all the people that are beyond the River and whosoever will not doe the Law of thy God and the Law of the King let Iudgement be executed speedily upon him whether it bee unto death or unto banishment or confiscation of goods or to imprisonment Ezra 7.25 26. Put them in mind to be subject to Principalities and powers to obey Magistrates to be ready to every good work Titus 3.1 They sent them Peter and John who when they were come prayed for them that they might receive the holy Ghost for as yet he was faln upon none of them onely they were baptized in the Name of the Lord Iesus Acts 8.15 16. Then Peter said unto them repent and be baptized every one of you and ye shall receive the gift of the holy Ghost for the promise is unto you and to your children Acts 2.38 39. LONDON Printed by M. O. for T. Bankes and are to be sold in Black Friars 〈…〉 To the Reader Christian Reader THE maine cause that moved me to undertake this Worke is this many faithfull Christians and loyall Subjects are blamed to be enemies to Civill government as also my selfe bearing a part of that reproach with them now to cleare both my selfe and others in these divided and distracted times J thought it not amisse to discover them and to make them knowne who they be that despise dominion and speake evill of dignities Jude 8. that faithfull Christians and loyall subjects may not be blamed who are subject to Principalities and Powers and willing to obey Magistrates and ready to every good work Titus 3.1 2. Who every day that passeth over their heads put up prayers and supplications intercessions and giving of thanks at the Throne of grace for Kings and all in authority that we may live a quiet and peaceable life in all godlinesse and honestie 1 Tim. 2.12 And as for mee God forbid that I should sinne against the Lord in ceasing to pray for them 1 Samuel 12.23 Tet Gods people were alwayes blamed to be enemies to civill authoritie Ahab said to Elijah Art not thou he that troubleth Israel 1 Kings 18.17 And saith Haman that great Courtier There is a certaine people scattered and disperced among thy people in all the Provinces of thy Kingdome and their Lawes are divers from all people neither keep they the Kings Laws Esther 3.8 Nay further this Court-flatterer so prevailed with the King to get Letters sealed with the Kings seale to destroy to kill and cause to perish all Jewes both young and old little children and women in one day even upon the thirteenth day of the twelfth Moneth which is the Moneth Adar and to take the spoyle of them for a prey Verse 13. And it was told the King saying Daniel one of the captivity of the children of Judah regardeth not thee O King nor the decree that thou hast signed and so was cast into the Denne of Lions but in the morning the King comes to the mouth of the Donne and calls Daniel to which hee answered O King live for ever my God hath sent his Angel and hath shut the Lions mouths that they have not hurt me for as much as before him Innocencie was found in me and against thee O King have I done no hurt Daniel 6.13.20.21.22 And Paul was accused to be a pestilent fellow and a mover of sedition but when the tryall came neither against the Law of the Iewes nor against the Temple nor against Caesar had he offended any thing at all Acts 24. ● 25.8 Nay further they said of Christ himselfe to Pilate If thou let this man goe thou art not Caesars friend for he speaketh against Caesar Iohn 19.12 Yet Christ although he was a true heire to the Crown and Kingdome of the Iewes shewed himselfe loyall to Civill Government saying Render to Caesar the things that are Caesars and to God the things that are Gods Matthew 22.21 And hee payed tribute to avoyd offence Matthew 17.26 27. although an heire to the Crowne and free from Tribute Thus in all ages both all the faithfull and Christ himselfe was blamed to bee enemies to civill government And now I come to our own age witnesse those three Worthies and faithfull servants of Iesus Christ who pleading for God and the King and declaring how those Traiterous Prelates did intrench upon the Kings prerogative in many particulars these men venturing lives and states and all outward comforts through a tender affection they had to their Prince as not being able to indure to see the wrong done to him and be silent and yet for speaking and declaring those Traytors they were punished altogether although they did expresse such Loyalty that I think their examples are not to be parallel'd witnesse that renowned Doctor Bastwick who laboured to maintaine the honour and dignity and prerogative Royall of our Soveraigne Lord the King saying Let the King live for ever Had I a thousand lives I should think them all too little to spen● for his Majesties Royall Prerogative and had I as much bloud in my veines as would swell the Thames I would shed it every drop in this cause And then wishing the people not to bee discouraged nor daunted at the Prelates power but bid them labour to preserve innocencie and keep peace within and goe on in the strength of your God and hee will never faile you in such a day as this Then saith he as I said before so I say again had I as many lives as I have haire● upon my head or drops of bloud in my veines I would give them up all for this Cause Yet all this could not free them from sufferings although Mordecai had saved the Kings life from the hands of Traytors yet no honour is done to Mordecai But the Lord hath all these things upon the File and in his due time he will cause the King to read the the Chronicles to finde out that which Mordecai hath done and requite it Esther 6.1 For behold thy servants are ready to doe whatsoever my Lord the King shall appoint 2 Samuel 15.15 Not as men-pleasers but as the servants
all the States and Peeres of the Land see Chap. 23.1 2. He indeed is chiefly named because he was the chiefe of them in blood neither did he set up Ioash but helped to maintain his right which was usurped by Athaliah in a word he protected the right heire but could not himselfe depose nor make over the Kingdome unto him hence I conclude that to exempt the Clergie from under the authority of the Civill Magistrate is rebellion Fourthly they object that Kings and Princes of their bounty have granted these priviledges unto them I answer the law of nature acknowledgeth a civill subjection and the law of God straightly commands it saying Let every soule be subject to the higher powers Rom. 13. And put them in mind to be subject to principalities and powers to obey Magistrates and to be ready to every good worke Titus 2.1 Then I conclude hence that no law of any man may offer violence or derogate from either of these Fiftly they object from Ier. 1.10 where the Lord saith I have set thee over Nations and Kingdomes to plant and to pluck up Hence they gather that the Prophets and their Successors are not to be subject unto civill Government I answer the Prophet is set over Nations and Kingdomes but not to governe by the Civill sword but by the sword of the spirit in his mouth and he is to plant and pluck up Kingdomes no otherwise then by declaring that God would plant or pluck them up Sixtly they object from Isa 60.10 That Kings shall come and serve the Church under the new Testament and therefore the Church is not to be subject to Princes but they unto the Church I answer in the Church are two things first the persons of men secondly the things of God Now it is true that Kings are subject to the things of God in the Church as the word and Sacraments to these Ordinances of God no calling is exempted saith Paul our selves are servants for Iesus sake But to the first of these which is the persons of believers to these Kings and Magistrates are not subject but to this very question when some servants were converted when they lived under Infidell Masters they thought themselves by this spiritual calling to be freed from serving their Masters any longer but saith Paul Let every man abide in the same calling wherin he was called art thou called to the state of grace being a servant care not for it yet if thou couldest be freed from serving an Infidel use it rather but if thou canst not here is thy comfort he that is called being a servant is the Lords free-man therfore brethren let every man wherin he is called therein abide with God 1 Cor. 7.20.21.22.24 So a subject being called is not freed of his obedience to Civill Government although he were effectually called under Infidel Governours it is in this case as it is with outward riches the people of God onely have a true right to them all by Christ so that all the riches in the world is theirs all is yours and ye are Christs 1 Cor. 3.21 And what others have they are but usurpers yet beleevers must not presently goe and take these outward things from any man although he be never so wicked So it is with places of Masters or Magistrates although never so wicked yet while they are in it we ought to yeild obedience to them for saith Peter Cervants be subject to your Masters with all feare now marke not onely to the good and gentle but also to the froward 1 Pet. 2.18 Seventhly they object that Kings and Magistrates are as sheep and Ministers are as Pastors and Shepherds therefore say they Kings are under Ministers as the flock is under the Shepherd I answer in the Prophets or Pastors consider two things first their persons secondly their Ministery now in regard of their persons all of them are subject to their Princes and that for conscience sake but in regard of their Ministry Princes and Magistrates are to be subject both when the Word is taught the Sacraments be administred all must submit themselves unto it even as a mean man being a Serjeant may arrest a Baron Earle or Duke neither may they resist him because he commeth with the Princes authority to which he must yeild himselfe though not unto the person of the Serjeant So must Magistrates submit unto Ministers comming not in their owne name but in the name of God and Christ now this must be marked that Magistrates are not simply subject to the Ministry but so far as they teach the word truly and rightly administer the Sacraments the which if they doe not they have power to reforme or depose such ministers as shall faile in their administration and in this regard Magistrates are called Shepherds The Lord saith Cyrus is my shepherd Isa 44.28 Though otherwise he be a sheep so far as he is truly taught by the Minister For they may say to the King and to the Queeno humble your selves Jer. 14.18 And Herod feared John and did many things and heard him gladly Mark 6.20 Thus we see that all men are to submit themselves to the Magistracy or Civil Government and to the positive Lawes of the Land Now the Romish Clergy are not enemies to Civil Government as it is government but as it is in the hand of Civil Magistrates so that their drift is not to put it downe but to remove it from the Magistrates to themselves that they might make all Magistrates their vassals Secondly prophane people doe allow of civil government in their judgment but they would have some liberty to intrench upon it in their practise Thirdly Anunomians and Ean●lifts are enemies to the eternall law of God which is the ground and foundation of the civil law which while they take a way the foundation of necessity the whole building must needs fall So they although they wil not openly say that they are enemies to civil government yet by accident they are enemies to it in their way seek to overthrow it 4 the independant people or the Brownists who will have Kings and Rulers and Magistrates to have no hand in matters of religion but all to be servants to the persons of beleevers and so they deny Cesar his due which is to have power over the outward man both of words and actions body and goods although he hath no power over the things of God which are their soules and consciences faith and all the graces of Gods spirit that are wrought in the heart yet we must obey them for conscience sake Rom. 13.5 Not as to bring these things of God under their command but obeying because God commands it even from the heart as to the Lord Col. 3.23 Fiftly the Anabaptists who are absolute enemies to civil government to them 〈◊〉 chiefly intend yet all the the rest doe something dash against civil government and the most of them do expect a time under the Gosoel in