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A17246 A comparison betweene the auncient fayth of the Romans, and the new Romish religion. Set foorth by Frauncis Bunny, sometime fellowe of Magdalen College in Oxforde Bunny, Francis, 1543-1617. 1595 (1595) STC 4098; ESTC S109540 68,655 92

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