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A61523 The bishop of Worcester's answer to Mr. Locke's second letter wherein his notion of ideas is prov'd to be inconsistent with itself, and with the articles of the Christian faith. Stillingfleet, Edward, 1635-1699. 1698 (1698) Wing S5558; ESTC R3400 77,917 185

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〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d for_o nature_n be_v always_o a_o subject_a and_o in_o a_o subject_a i._n e._n the_o substance_n itself_o be_v nature_n and_o that_o which_o be_v in_o it_o be_v according_a to_o nature_n and_o this_o sense_n of_o aristotle_n plutarch_n rely_v upon_o 1._o as_o the_o true_a notion_n of_o nature_n which_o he_o say_v be_v the_o principle_n of_o motion_n and_o rest_n because_o the_o beginning_n and_o end_v of_o thing_n depend_v upon_o it_o but_o plutarch_n by_o no_o mean_n approve_v of_o those_o man_n opinion_n who_o make_v nature_n to_o be_v a_o original_a selfmoving_a principle_n 3._o for_o say_v he_o matter_n of_o itself_o can_v move_v without_o a_o efficient_a cause_n no_o more_o than_o any_o metal_n can_v frame_v itself_o into_o a_o particular_a form_n without_o a_o artificer_n
upon_o and_o then_o compare_v your_o way_n of_o idea_n with_o they_o 5._o aristotle_n observe_v that_o socrates_n first_o bring_v in_o definition_n and_o induction_n in_o order_n to_o certainty_n and_o go_v no_o far_o plato_n allow_v no_o certainty_n but_o only_a opinion_n as_o to_o external_n object_n but_o he_o say_v that_o certainty_n depend_v upon_o abstract_n and_o separate_a idea_n which_o be_v always_o the_o same_o this_o he_o take_v 32._o as_o i_o observe_v in_o my_o former_a letter_n from_o the_o pythagorean_n only_o change_v number_n into_o idea_n for_o by_o number_n they_o understand_v first_o principle_n not_o gross_a and_o material_a but_o immaterial_a and_o eternal_a 5._o as_o jamblichus_n say_v and_o therefore_o moderatus_n gaditanus_n one_o of_o the_o most_o understand_a man_n among_o they_o say_v the_o pythagorean_n bring_v in_o number_n pythag._n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d for_o a_o more_o decent_a way_n of_o instruction_n follow_v the_o practice_n of_o 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