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A19508 The triumph of a Christian contayning three excellent and heauenly treatises. 1 Iacobs wrestling with God. 2 The conduit of comfort. 3 A preparatiue for the Lords Supper. Full of sweet consolations for all that desire the comfortable sweetnesse of Iesus Christ, and necessary for those who are troubled in conscience. Written by that worthy man Master William Couper, minister of Gods word. Cowper, William, 1568-1619.; Cowper, William, 1568-1619. Conduit of comfort.; Cowper, William, 1568-1619. Jacobs wrestling with God.; Cowper, William, 1568-1619. Preparative for the new Passeover. 1608 (1608) STC 5937; ESTC S117170 143,181 383

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the tender conscience cast downe with the sight of sinne after tryall two sorts of tryalls the one of things perfect the other of things vnperfect Dayly tryall most necessary THe Apostle saith that the breaking of this bread is the Communion of the body of Iesus Sith Christ is that holy thing which here is communicated take heede how wee make ready the heart wherin to receiue him Ioseph of Aramathia and the rest of those Godly ones who tooke downe Iesus from the Crosse wrapped his dead bodie in pure and fine linnen what shall wee then doe with the liuing body of Iesus shall not wee receiue it into pure sine and well prepared hearts No man sayes our Sauiour puts new wine into olde Vessels far lesse will any man put the ordinary food of his body into vncleane vnseasoned and vnsauery Vessels but least of al should men presume with vnholy harts and hands to meddle with things sacred heauenly here is new wine indeed let vs not put it into old vessels here is heauēly manna let vs not receiue it with earthly harts Euery man that is in Christ should become a new Creature If wee bee these blessed ones who are called to the participation of the Lambs supper then shall it bee graunted to vs to bee arrayed with pure fine linnen and shining which is the righteousnes of the Saints The Lord vouchsafe this grace vpon vs that sith he hath made vs pertakers of the heauenly vocation and called vs to the marriage of his Son that wee receiue not so excellent a grace in vaine but it may be vnto vs his seruants according to his word And now before we enter to speak of this tryall least the tender Consciences of the Godly by reason of that which I haue spoken should bee discouraged and cast downe with the sence of their owne vnworthines which at all times is great in their eyes but greatest when by trial they looke most narrowly vnto themselues Wee haue therefore to consider that there be two sorts of tryals One whereby a thing perfect is tryed in such sort that it is not made better but sound to be that which it is and with this kinde of tryall man is said to try the Lord and his Word so speakes the Lord by Malachie proue me and try me now if I will not poure you out a blessing without measure By this tryall if a man fall to try the Lord hee shall finde him such as hee is true constant and faithfull to performe that which hee hath spoken or if againe man will enter and try the word of the Lord hee shall finde that the law of the Lord is perfect no drosse in it but like siluer fined seauen times in the fire There is againe another tryall wherby things imperfect are so tryed that they are made better and at the length perfected and hereby God tryes man for so he speakes by the same Malachie The Lord will fine the sonnes of Leui and purifie them as gold siluer that they bring offerings to him in righteousnesse And with this tryall also man tryes himselfe searching out his iniquities that he may forsake them and this triall tends indeed to a perfection at the last but stands rather in a sinding out and forsaking of our imperfections then in any present perfection And of this t●…yall the Apostle meanes here so that this precept doth commaund vs to search out our iniquities to depart from them but doth no way import that we should not communicate at this Table because that new tryall discouers to vs new transgressions for wee come not here as men without sin but as poore and miserable sinners seeking the Sauiour of the world knowing that hee came not to call the righteous but sinners to repentance Thou then who after examination shalt finde thy selfe a miserable and yet a penitent sinner say not with Peter Lord depart from mee for I am a sinfull man but so much the rather goe to him and crie with Dauid haue mercy on me O God and according to the multitude of thy compassions put away mine iniquities for it is a true saying Christ came into the world to saue sinners Stay not thou therefore backe from him because thou art sinfull onely trie if thou bee wearie of thy sinnes for we are sure that a sinne discouered by tryall and cast out by repentance wil neuer condemne vs Wash you saith the Lord make you cleane take away the euill of your workes from before my eyes and then though your sinnes were as crimson they shall bee made white as snow though they were red like Scarlet they shall be as Wool Omne quod ipse mihi non imputare decreuerit Sic est quasi non fuerit euerie sin saieth the ancient which God hath concluded not to impute vnto me is as if it had neuer beene If therefore in thy conscience thou feele thy sins an heauy burden vnto thee vnder the which thou sighest gronest and whereof thou earnestly desirest to be releeued crying with that holy Apostle O miserable man that I am who shal deliuer me from this body of sin then goe thou to the Lord Iesus for surely thou art one of those whom he is seeking he came into the world to sane thee and the like of thee lay thy burden vpon the back of Christ and hee shall beare it and take thou vp his yoake which is easie and his burden which is light So shalt thou finde rest to thy soule O happy exchange when we are taken from the seruitude of sin and entred into the seruice of Christ when the burden of sin that presseth vs downe is taken from our backs and the sweete yoake of Christ that lifteth vs vp is laid vpon vs for albeit it bee called a burden yet is it such a burden as easeth vs and maketh vs lighter like the wings of a Bird Quidenim leuius co onere quod non solum onerat sed portat omnem cui portandum imponitur Where for our farther comfort let vs consider what manner of Guestes these were whom the great King commaunded to bring into his banquetting house euen the poore the maymed the halt and the blind Take heed vnto this O thou that art disquieted in minde wounded in spirit with the sence of thy infirmities the Lord is gracious ready to shew mercie Hee will not breake the brused reede nor quench the smoaking Flax he will not despise thee because thou art weake but bids thee come to him that he may heale all thy infirmities Art thou then poore and destitute of spirituall grace in thy seeling turne thee to Christ who being rich became poore for thy sake that thou in him mights bee made rich Art thou weake and diseased remember they who are whole need no Phisition but the sicke and that it is the glorie of this
to the majestie of God humbly confesseth that hee was but dust and ashes Yea Adam in his best estate of his innocencie was bound to glorisie God with the like confession of the basenesse of his originall and to let Adam alone the heauens are not cleane in his sight yea he hath found follie in his Angels they couer not onely their feete but their faces before the Lord what then shalt thou do O man who dwellest in lodgings of clay a sinfull creature by thine owne apos●…asie loaden with iniquitie how shouldest thou bee humbled and bow downe thy soule in the presence of thy Maker Redeemer and thy iudge Presumption in praier thus being remoued I returne to the comfort Thou being thus humbled with an hatred of thine owne sinnes with feare and reuerence of that diuine maiestie trusting to his promise goe on with boldnesse to the throne of grace Noli vilipendere orationem tuam quoniam illo ad quem oras non vilipendit esteeme not lightly thine owne prayer as though it were a smal thing seeing the Lord to whom thou pray est hath declared that he accounts so much of it suppose it be weake yet remember etiam solis vagit●…bus infans matrem commou●…t ad misericordiam euen the very cryes of the infant that vtters no distinct voyce moues the mother vnto commisseration And what comparison betweene the loue of a mother toward her children and the loue of the Lord towards his No father will giue to his children that asketh a stone instead of bread nor a Serpent in stead of a fish What kindnesse then if wee craue it may we looke for at the hands of our heauenly father As the heauens are aboue the earth so are my thoughts aboue yours Our prayers saith Cyprian are arma coe●… s●…ia quae stare nos faciunt forti●…er perseuerare haec sunt munimenta spiritualia tel●… diuina they are spirituall armour wherby we stand and strongly perseuer to the end they are heauenly darts and defences Oh that wee vnderstood the excellen●…e of this grace of prayer that so we might the more delight in it it is the hand of a christian which is able to reach from earth to heauen and take forth euery manner of good gift out of the Lords treasure It is one of those keyes of the house of Dauid whereby we open the doores of the heauenly pallace goe in to take a view of that eternall building and glorious mansion prepared for vs in heauen It is the messenger that with speed goeth from our soules saluting no creature by the way and entreth straight into the Mercie seate in heauen reporting to the Lord all our desires and returning backe a fauourable answere from him Yea it is vnto vs as that ●…iery chariot of Eliah whereunto we mount vp and haue our conuersation with God in the heauens O happie soule therefore which God hath endued vvith this most heauenly grace Except thou blesse me It were for vs a good thing if wee could learne from Iacob this holy vvilfulnesse neuer to let the Lord alone till he blesse vs. But alas here we are taken in our sinne we fall to our prayers without preparation we powre out a number of words without deuotion and so goe away without a blessing We send out our prayers like to incense made indeed according to the Lords direction but not kindled with fire from the Alter that is petitions lawfull enough and agreeable to Gods word but not powred out in feruencie And so no meruaile that the Lord smell not in them a sweet sacrifice for incense without fire hath no fragrant smell and so hauing finished our colde prayers vvee rise without examination not once considering with what fruit we haue prayed and whether wee haue gotten a blessing from God or no. CHAP. XVII Iacob cannot ende till God haue blessed him GOdly Iacob will here teach vs another lesson that we should not let our gripes goe nor cease from crying vntill the Lord haue blessed vs. Then hath Iacob doone when as the Lord hath blessed him but till hee get the blessing Iacob in no wise will part with the Lord. Where if thou dispaire how shalt thou know in prayer when God blesseth thee I answere Except the Lord teach thee I cannot tell thee the spirit of God when he comes downe with a blessing makes himselfe to bee knowne No man hath felt so sensible a shower of raine descending on his body as the child of God will feele when the shower of grace descends on his soule then the foundations of that earth which is in man are shaken the stonie heart melteth the eye aboundeth in ioyfull teares the tongue is loosed that was bound before the minde is filled with vnaccustomable light the whole soule with vnspeakeable comfort Finally such an alteration is made of his whole desires for a change of his whole inward and outward disposion as the childe of God feeles better than hee is able to vtter Which if we obtaine not in prayer as many times it falles out let vs receiue it as a checke of our coldnesse as a spurre to further humiliation that so with a new blessing wee may fall to seeke the Lord and his blessing And here againe wee haue to consider another lesson for in this that he seekes a blessing from him who wounded him wee are to take vp the nature of faith which is of such quicknesse that no maruell the Auncient said Fides Linceos habet oculos for albeit the Lord would take on him the shape of an enimie and shew himselfe an angry iudge to his children yet will they still looke for fauour and kindnesse at his hand It was the Lord who afflicted Iob with outward and inward troubles of the which nature sense could gather no other conclusion but that God had forsaken him and had become his en●…mie yet faith aboue sense and nature leadeth him through all these misly cloudes to looke vnto God as vnto his mercifull father and therefore res●…s he in that notable conclusion whereof we haue made mention before Albeit the Lord stay me yet will I trust in him CHAP. XVIII Faith through death espies life THis fulnesse of faith doth also appe●…e manifestly in all the rest of Gods children especially in time of trouble for what maketh them reioyce in afflictions and to triumph when they are going through the valley of death but the sight certaintie of a better How commeth it that in the same moment wherein God is taking their temporall life from them they are seeking an eternall life from him Out of doubt it commeth of their liuely faith which through wrath sees mercy through the clowde of light momentary afflictions it beholdeth an infinit weight of glory But this quicknesse of faith appeares most of all wonderfully in the vp taking of Iesus Christ for he appeared in the world disguised A King in
sh●…pe of a seruant He being the God of glory came couered with such contemptible couerings that the vvorld mis-knew him His miraculous conception without the help of man was obscured with the couering of Maries espo●…sing vnto Ioseph his birth without all vncleannesse obscured with the couering of Maries purification his innocency in like manner obscured with the couering of circumcision and so 〈◊〉 est noui solis fulgor saith B●…rnard and thus was the glory of this ●…ght shining sunne which the world saw neuer before obscured Yet through all these and many couerings that Centurion through faith esp●…ed him to bee the sonne of God and those three wise men who came from the East by the light of faith through all these vayles saw him to bee a glorious King and therefore also fell downe and worshipped him But these blind Bethleemites amongst vvhom he was borne hauing no more but the eyes of nature wherewith to looke vpon him could not discerne him albeit this was their glory that out of them came that Gouernour who should feede his people by this faith Agnouit Simeon infantem tacentem for lack of it occiderunt Iudaei mirabilia facientem Simeon by faith acknowledged Iesus euen in his infancy when he had not yet spoken a word but the Iewes for lack of faith blinded with infidelitie flew him after that he had wrought many Miracles So then to returne to our ground it was a great faith in Iacob that hee sought a blessing from him who wrestled against him Nature will neuer learne vs that lesson Come and let vs return to the Lord he hath spoyled and he will heale vs hee hath wounded and he will binde vs vp Without faith there can bee no prayer to God especially at that time when God layeth his heauie hand vpon vs How shall they call to him in whom they beleeue not Where the fountaine is drye what water can there be in the strand ergo vt oremus credamus vt ipsa non deficiat ●…ides qua credimus oremus Therefore that wee may pray let vs beleeue and that our faith whereby we beleeue faint not let vs pray And this for the fulnes of faith CHAP. XIX The goldy in their prayers aboue all things seeke Gods fauour and blessing PErceiue yet farther out of these words that Iacob seekes nothing from God but his blessing The children of God euen then when God is most familiar vvith them seek nothing comparable to his blessing Herein they are insatiable on the earth they can neuer get enough of his blessings Iacob vvas blessed before of the Lord and now againe hee seekes a new blessing and euery time that hee meetes vvith the Lord all that he desires is a blessing It is far otherwise with miserable Worldlings it is seldome and far betweene that they come to the Lord they seeke some other thing then himselfe or his blessing some worldly benefit or deliuerance from temporall trouble is the summe of all their suite So Cain forgetting to seeke mercy for his sinne sought onely protection to his body Whosoeuer findeth mee shall slay mee and from time to time he got that hee vvent out from the presence of the Lord. O miserable man that left not behinde him so much as a petition to God for mercy deliuerance from that wrath vvhich his sin had brought vpon him CHAP. XX. Worldlings in their prayers dishonor God and preiudges themselues IN this doing vvicked men doe both dishonour the Lord and prejudge themselues they consider not the insinite goodnesse and the al-sufficiency of the Lord they measure him with their base and earthly minds and therfore in stead of eternall they seeke nothing but temporall and perishing things It was a princely answere that Alexander gaue his friend Perillus to whom he had offred fifty talents of siluer to help his daughter to marriage vvhich the other thinking too much replyed that ten talents were sufficient Yea said Alexander it were enough for thee to receiue but not for me to giue And to another in like case hee gaue the like answere Ne quaere quid t●… accipere sed quid me dare deceat But much more may our al-sufficient God that Monarch of the world indeede who is rich vnto all who cals vpon him giue vnto vs a greater rebuke that cannot enlarge our hearts nor open our mouthes wide that hee may fill them with his good things contenting vs to seeke the earth when the Lord offers vs the heauen seeking with worldlings that our wheat and our wine may abound and not with Godly Dauid that the light of the countenance of God which brings ioy to the heart may be vpon vs. The Lord esteemes this a very great indignitie and contempt done vnto him and therefore he complaines on the Iewes by his seruant the Prophet Hosea They howle vpon me in their beds for wine and oyle they cry like dogs for that vvhich may fill their bellies but sends not out the voice of my children to cry vnto me for mercy and grace It is in like manner very prejudiciall to themselues who doe it for they fast and weary their spirits in seeking many things and in the meane time are carelesse to seeke one thing the obtaining whereof might bring them vnto all things thus they consume themselues with vaine labour Qui rerum magis specie quam authore dilectati prius vniuersa percurrere de singulis cupiunt expiriri quam ad Christum curent vniuersitatis principem peruenire Who being delighted with the shew of things more then vvith the authour of them are desirous to know euery thing by experience but not carefull to come vnto Christ vvho is that head fountaine of vvhom all things are where otherwise if according to the command of our blessed Sauiour men would first seeke the kingdo●…e of God then all other things should be cast vnto them This is the onely compendious way to satisfie our insatiable desires Quicunque hic varia quaeris ipse vnus tibi erit omnia whatsoeuer thou bee who here seekes sundry things seek the Lord and he shal be all things in all to thee When the Lord offred to Salomon to giue whatsoeuer he vvould aske he sought from the Lord a wise and vnderstanding heart which so pleased the Lord that not onely hee gaue him that which he asked but also second and inferiour gifts as riches honour which he asked not so great delight hath the Lord to here vs seeke from him those things which are greatest and excellent Let vs therefore ascribe vnto the Lord glory and power hee is a great King let vs not dishonour him by seeking from him small and perishing things the least of them is enough for vs to receiue For we are not worthy of the least of his mercies but not enough for the Lord to giue suppose the Lord would ●…ue vs all the workes of his hand into
and not preuaile but it is not so with the Godly BEcause thou hast had power with God As ●…acob sought a blessing so at the length hee ge●…teth it for the Lord at the last will fulfill the desires of them who feare him The desire of the childe of God is as a birth conceiued in the soule of man which shall not dye but come to perfection Salomon promised to giue his mother Bethsheba whatsoeuer she would aske and it were to the halfe of his kingdome yet when shee asked that Abishag the Shunamite might be giuen to Adoniah his brother to wife Salomon refused to graunt Thus men can promise much and performe little it is not so with the Lord our God He hath bidden vs pray he hath promised to heare and shall not also faile to performe Nunquam oranti beneficia denegabit qui orantes vt ne deficiant sua pietate instigat Hee will neuer denie his benefits to vs when we pray who prouokes vs to pray But as to the wicked the hope of the Hypocrite shall perish their soules are full of desires like so many strong voyces crying for that which they shall neuer obtaine they wayte vpon lying vanities which shall neuer come to passe Quid tam poenale quam semper velle quod nunquam erit semper nolle quod nunquam non erit in aeternum non obtinebit quod vul●… in aeternum quod non vult sustinebit What punishment more fearefull can fall on a man then that he should euer wish that which neuer shal be and alwayes wish that were not that shall be for euer that which he will he shall neuer obtaine and that which he will not hee shall for euer sustaine yet this is the miserable estate of the wicked Let vs therefore take heed to our praedominate desires for miserable are they whose desires are on the world more then on the Lord and on vanishing trifles more then vpon his permanent mercies For when the Lord hath filled their bellies with his earthly treasure giuen them enough that they leaue the rest behind to their children what haue they more to craue from the Lord They haue gotten their desire they are not to looke that euer they shall bee pertakers of the felicitie of Gods chosen their heart was neuer set vpon it they haue receiued their consolation on the earth they haue no more to looke for Wherefore our Sauiour pronounceth a feareful wo vpon them and no meruaile for miserable indeed is their condition their consolation dies before they dye themselues their comforts forsakes them before they go out of the world and like the Gowrd of Ionas withereth before their eyes in their life they sate vnder the shadow of it but in their death it is gone and they finde no comfort in it Well knew Dauid their misery and therefore hee praies Deliuer me O Lord from the men of the world who haue their portion in this life that is let mee neuer bee one of them Wee haue therefore to marke where-away the benefits of our affections doe carry vs for if wee feele the Lords blessing no doubt we shall finde it and if the desire of our hearts bee aboue all things towards the Lord such a desire I meane as vseth the meanes that may bring vs vnto him for otherwise wicked Baalam will desire Oh that I might dye the death of the righteous which he shall not obtaine But let vs goe the right way to mercy protesting with godly Dauid O Lord I desire to do thy commandements and then no doubt the Lord shall crowne vs with mercies and compassions at the last Thou shalt preuaile with men I doe now here by my word will the Lord say inuest thee in this priuiledge that no power of man shall be able to ouercome thee Goe on therefore with courage in thy iourney which I haue commanded thee and feare not any thing that man is able to doe against thee Wher it is to be marked that the Lord promiseth not of his seruant any immunitie from affliction yea by the contrary the Lord fore-warnes that men will make opposition to him for where no opposition is made by men how can there bee a priuiledge by Iacob It is needfull we consider what it is that the Lord hath promised vnto vs least looking for that which hee hath not promised vs we deceiue our selues Many in the time of trouble make foule apostacie from Christ and all because when they entred into the profession of Christian religion they considered not they could not be his Disciples except they bare his Crosse but foolishly lookt for some temporal ease or worldly commoditie in the following of Christ which he neuer promised them These are professors like to the Samaritans who so long as the Iewish religion flourished was in honour caused also to be built a temple on a high mountaine of Samaria named Garazin that in this they might not be inferiour to the Iewes They boasted themselues to be the progeny of Ioseph and worshippers of God also with them but when they perceiued that the Iewes were cruelly afflicted for worshipping God by Antiochus Epiphanes and fearing least they should be also handled in the like manner they changed their coate affirming that they were not Isiaelites but Sidonians and had built their temple not vnto God but Iupiter thus a little winde seperates the chaffe and the corne and a fierce tryall distin guisheth the counterfeit and true professor In like manner the ignorant Iewes because they vnderstood not the promises made concerning the Messias looked that Christ should haue restored vnto them their temporall Kingdome peaceably and free whereof when they saw themselues disappointed they were offended with him and persecuted him to the death It vvere therefore good for vs that wee should follow the counsaile of our Sauiour reckon with our selues in time in what state of life we enter when we enter into the profession of Christianitie before we build a Tower let vs count the cost whether we haue sufficient to performe it least that when wee haue laid the foundation and not able to performe it wee fall not vnder this shame to be mocked of men but bring vpon our selues a more fearefull wrath of God For it had beene better not to haue knowne the way of righteousnesse then after we haue knowne it to turne from the holy commandement giuen vnto vs like dogs to the vomit and like the sow that was washed to wallowing in the mire If we could resolue in time that they who will liue godly in Christ must suffer persecution and arme our selues before hand thereunto reckoning with our selues that of the Lords indulgence we are spared euery day wherein some notable crosse is not layd vpon vs then certainely should we account the lesse of trouble when it comes vnto vs. Wee haue here againe to consider the connexion of
these words because thou hast had power with God thou shalt preuaile with men and out of them yee may perceiue that the Lord will haue this wrestling of Iacobs wherein hee was exercised immediately by the Lord to bee a preparation vnto him against other tentations which were to come by men Wherein is shadowed vnto vs how the Lord doth first prepare his children by wrestling with himselfe before he send them out to encounter with men and so makes the inward exercises of their mindes preparations whereby they are made ready the better to endure all outward troubles that doe come from men CHAP. XXIII The Lord by inward exercises of conscience makes his children strong to endure outward troubles which come from men THis made Moses that he was not afraid of the face of Pharaoh because hee had seene first the face of God for he saw saith the Apostle him who was invisible The Kings wrath saith Salomon is as the roaring of a Lion but when the Lord vtters his wrath then the heart and countenance of the greatest Monarch in the world make him as high as Beltasar shall faile him he will neuer loose a good conscience for feare of the wrath of man that knoweth the power of the wrath of God Feare not the man whose breath is in his nosthrils the most hee can do that by permission is he is able to kill the body but let vs feare the Lord who is able to cast both soul●… and body into hell fire This sustained aged Policarpus against all the threatnings of the Proconsull Ignem minaris ad horam arsurum paulo post extinguendum ignoras vero ignem illum futuri iudicij aeterni supplicij impijs reseruatum Thou theatnest mee saith hee with a fire which will burne for an houre and shortly after be quenched but thou knowest not that fire of the judgement to come reserued for the wicked which vvil burne for euer It is the holy feare of God which banisheth out of our hearts the prophane feare of men that we vvill not doe euill to offend the Lord no not for all the paines that can follow vs in this present life And therefore the Lord in great mercy towards his children doth sometimes exercise them with the sense of his wrath and letteth them feele the sting of an accusing conscience that so they may come out to the world strong in the Lord against outward tentations fully resolued rather to displease men then the Lord rather to endure present punishments than to cast themselues vnder danger of the wrath with is to come And so are the children of God to reckon with themselues that their inward wrestlings are preparatiues for outward troubles CHAP. XXIIII It is a sinnefull curiositie to seeke to know that which God hath not taught vs. Verse 29. And Iacob asked What is thy name NOW Iacob hauing receiued the blessing proceedes in the conference and desireth to know the name of him who blessed him No doubt but hee knew before that it was the Lord otherwise he had not sought a blessing from him It standeth not with the nature of faith to pray to any in whom we beleeue not By this question he attaineth not to any new knowledge for hee who blessed him refuseth to tell his name but Iacob by calling the place Peniel as afterwards followes plainely declares he knew it was the Lord. So then this asking importeth not that Iacob did not know it was the Lord that had giuen him the blessing onely it declareth an earnest desire of Iacob to haue had a more familiar reuelation of the Lord to him which I thinke hee did of a good minde and intention such as Moses had when he desired to see the face of God Yet ye see all our good intentions are not alway approued of the Lord. With his good intention there is joyned a peece of curiositie that hee will haue more knowledge of the majestie of God then the Lord thought expedient to communicate vnto him otherwise the Lord had not denied it to him To seeke a greater perfection of knowledge where the Lord offers it is very commendable but to aspire to know that which God vvill not teach and namely to search out that majesty farther then he pleaseth to reueale himselfe is curiosity and presumption worthy to be damned Hee that searches Quantus sit Deus quae illius mensura qualis essentia talia sciscitanti sunt periculosa ei qui rogatur complexa talium medicina est silentium To aske the quantitie measure of God or vvhat is his essence such questions are perillous to him that asketh intricate to him that is asked at and are best answered by silence There bee names whereby the Lord expresseth himselfe to vs according to our capacitie but as to his proper name it is himselfe it cannot bee comprehended Why askest thou my name which is wonderfull And from this curiositie Iacob here by gods reproofe is restrayned This sin with our nature wee haue drawne from our first father Adam the knowledge wherwith God endued him contented him not hee aspired higher and sought to bee equall with God in the knowledge of good and euill And that this poyson from Adam is propagate to his posteritie doth daily appeare among the common fruites of our corruption for eyther wee are carelesse to learne those things whereof the Lord hath offered himselfe a teacher or else wee are curious searchers of those things which the Lord hath kept secret and hidden from vs. There are two points of knowledge most excellent and needefull for man the first to know God and him whom he hath sent for herein consists eternall life the second is to know our selues and the state of our owne consciences But such is the vanitie of the minde of man that with Adam had rather eate of the tree of knowledge then of the tree of life and delighteth to bee well read in any booke rather then in the booke of his owne Conscience And yee may marke in the carnall professors of this age that if at any time they begin to speak of Theologie then do they handle diuine things in a diuellish manner altogether inexpert in the words of righteousnesse and hauing no skill to speake the language of Canaan eyther else they talke profanely vpon that which God hath reuealed insisting most in points of doctrine least profitable for them or then curiously they inquire for that which God hath concealed from them not remembring that warning of Moses secret things are for the Lord but things reuealed are for vs and our children This curious demaund of Iacob is answered vvith a gentle refusall Why askest thou my name The Interrogator striues to send Iacob within himselfe that by a new tryal taken of his speach within his owne minde hee might see how vnnecessary and vnprofitable his Petition was After this manner it is