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A41272 The creed-forgers detected in reply to a pamphlet falsely called the Quakers-creed, containing twelve articles / published by some, who have not joyned with Geo. Keith in his pride and contradiction, but testifie against both him, and them that joyn with him therein. Field, John, 1652-1723. 1700 (1700) Wing F862; ESTC R28417 17,502 18

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THE CREED-FORGERS DETECTED IN REPLY to a Pamphlet Falsly Called The Quakers-Creed Containing Twelve ARTICLES Published by some who have not joyned with Geo. Keith in his Pride and Contradiction but Testifie against both him and them that joyn with him therein Let the lying Lips be put to silence which speaketh grievous things proudly and contemptuously against the Righteous Psal 31.18 For he that hideth Hatred with lying Lips and he that uttereth a Slander is a Fool Prov. 10.18 LONDON Printed and Sold by T. Sowle in White-Hart-Court in Gracious-street and at the Bible in Leaden-Hall street 1700. THE Creed-Forgers Detected c. INTRODUCTION IT 's no ways pleasant to us that we have occasion on this wise to appear against any but especially against such whom we love and are sorry they should draw back into those ways where some of them that have so done could find in days past no more true Peace and Satisfaction to their poor Souls than we could whilst we abode there which was the only Reason we left them And this encreases our Sorrow and we believe will their Condemnation That they should publish such things of us which we cannot but think they know in their own Consciences to be false viz. That they imbibed many hurtful Antichristian Principles which were instilled into them by our Leaders and Teachers and that they have been taught by them and their Preachments to slight and undervalue the holy Scriptures and to insinuate as if the Doctrine of Christ crucified and obedience to his holy Institutions were not minded by us and that we are no Christians and that they used their utmost endeavours not only to inform us of our vile and abominable Errors in Fundamentals but to Reclaim us and that we wilfully take to our selves Guilt of all our Antichristian Errors And when they have thus most falsly and uncharitably Charged us instead of Proving they query in their Introduction What Consequence can there be inferr'd but that they wilfully take on them the Guilt of all their Antichristian Errors So that from false Premises they draw wrong Consequences and from thence make undue Inferrences and then say To what purpose so many particular Persons giving forth Creeds palpably Contradicting the former Creeds And yet must tell them as we are not accountable for the sense of this they are not so fair and ingenuous as to name one of these Contradictory Creeds nor the Persons that made them they call Creeds but as boldly undertake to forge one as falsly to call it The Quakers Creed containing Twelve Articles to which we shall Reply But say they give us leave by the way to tell you That whatsoever the high Pretentions of any may be to Christianity yet in their bold opposing the Positive Commands of Christ they plainly demonstrate themselves to be no Christians and from such every sincere Person ought to withdraw and come out from their Communion But not too fast for sure the contrary is true and you do here but beg the Question and take that for granted which you neither have nor can prove and so have made too much haste For you say If any Quaker shall question the Truth we offer to give them a sight of the Originals from whence they are quoted but do not think meet to subscribe their Names nor we therefore but proffer to give any of them a sight of what we have quoted in Reply And hope our Negation to what they have Charged together with what we have urged may have that Credit with the Impartial as at least to prevail with them to suspend their Judgments till we are as truly Convicted as we are falsly Charged And we hope our Principles Doctrines and Conversations will appear upon a serious Examination and due Enquiry as Orthodox Christian and Agreeable to Holy Scriptures as any of theirs And that we shall by the Grace of God as we have so continued demean our selves in all Respects and to all Persons so as to keep a Conscience void of offence towards God and all Men although all manner of Evil may as Christ said it should be spoken against us falsly for his Name sake and not for our Evil-doing that 's our Comfort So desiring those that Read this little Book to follow this wise Advice Before Judgment Examine thy self and in the Day of Visitation thou shalt find Mercy SECT I. The Quakers deny the Doctrine of the Holy Trinity P. 13. The Proof as quoted by these Persons is as followeth IF God as the Scriptures testifieth had never been Declared or Believed W. P 's Sandy Foundation p. 12 13 15. but as the Holy One then will it follow That God is not a Holy Three nor doth Subsist in Three distinct and separate Holy Ones And since the Father is God the Son is God and the Spirit is God then unless the Father Son and Spirit are Three Distinct Nothings they must be Three Distinct Gods That frequent but impertinent Distinction That God is one Substance P. 12 15. but Three in Persons or Subsistances a most absurd Blasphemy They the Trinitarians must necessarily conclude their kind of Trinity a Fiction Now these Persons giving this as a Reason for their leaving the Quakers and charging them with Error for thus Writing and accounting it an Error against the very Foundation of the Christian Religion and an Antichristian Principle it may be taken for granted with them to be Truth to hold the contrary viz. That God as the Scriptures hath always declared and we believe is a Holy Three and doth consist in Three distinct and separate Holy Ones and since the Father is God the Son is God and the Spirit is God then they are not three distinct Nothings but three distinct Substances and three distinct Gods And that the frequent Distinction That God is one Substance but Three in Persons or Subsistances is Pertinent and no absurd Blasphemy and the Trinitarians do not necessarily conclude this kind of Trinity a Fiction Let these New Members of the Church enquire of Dr. Sherleek and Dr. South whether this be the Orthodox Opinion of the Church of England and is according to Scripture or of their Leader that hath caused them to Err. G. K. who said as followeth As concerning the Essence of the Christian Faith Serious Appeal p. 3. Writ 1692. as to the matter of it I declare sincerely without all Equivocation or mental Reservation in the true and general sense of the Words That I know not wherein I or the Quakers my Brethren of my Faith are guilty of any Fundamental Errors that are Repugnant to the Essence of the Christian Faith The only Exception we have is against the Unscriptural Term or Phrase of Three Persons or a Trinity of Persons but we own sincerely that our Faith ought to be and is in God the Father the Son and Holy Ghost and that these Names are Names of Relation respecting the Relations as well as the Relative