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A12793 The sale of salt. Or The seasoning of soules Namely such, as for whom the chapmen here doe come, and whom the author, which taketh the name of a salter, is willing, what in him lieth, to season with the salt of the Word, leauing the successe to the Lord, without whose blessing in such works we can do nothing. Written by Iohn Spicer, minister of the word of God at Leckhamsteed in the county of Buckingham. Spicer, John. 1611 (1611) STC 23101; ESTC S117790 175,913 412

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Salomon which saith My sonne Prou. 24.21 feare the Lord and the King ●nd meddle not with them that are sediti●us And S Peter also after these words 1. Pet. 2.17 Honour all men loue brotherly felowship ●aith Feare God honor the King where●y hee teacheth vs that though wee owe a ●inde of honour to all men yet the King is to be honoured aboue all the rest this being so I may safely conclude that the King is to be obeyed in the Lord who commandeth vs to honour him The fifth Commandement also biddeth vs honour Father and Mother Now that stretcheth to the King which is a father to the country as a father then thinketh himselfe not to bee honoured if his sonne obey him not which made Salomon say Prou. 6.20 My sonne keepe thy fathers commaundements And Saint Paul Ephes 6.1 Children obey your parents in the Lord So a King doth not thinke himselfe honoured of those that frame not themselues to obey him in the Lord. To command to goe to Church to heare Gods word to pray to him to praise him to shew forth the Lords death c. is to command in the Lord if then in this and the like wee stubbornely disobey him wee giue him not the honour due vnto him to finde fault with translations and to say we are cut off from the head are stumbling-blockes of their owne laying for our tran●●slations which we haue already dare shew their faces in any place in the world wher● their old Latine vulgar edition dare and s● long as the Apostle Paul teacheth Tha● Christ is the head of the Church Eph. 5.23 Contra Crescomum lib. 3. cap. 5. Dix●plane d●●o ibid. which lesson S. Augustine hauing learned wrote thus Christus Christianisit caput let Christ be the Christian mans head And S. Peter that the King is the superior vnto whose ordinances if the Christians were to submit themselues in his time in ciuill matters why should not we submit our selues vnto them in Ecclesiasticall matters also now when God in his mercy hath made them not onely receiuers of the saith but also defenders of the same so long I say as we are thus taught and so haue learned why should any say that we are cut off from the head seeke to ioyne the whole Church militant to one ministeriall head I must needs confesse that it were a blessed thing and very comfortable to all that professe the religion of the crucified Christ if when there bee iarres in the Church wee might finde some one man or many in Rome or any where else that were so assured of his or their not erring M. Hard. in Confut. as that whatsoeuer hee or they said by way of iudgement to vse their owne words and sentence definatiue in doubtful points touching religion might safely be taken for truth for my part if I ●ould méete with any such I would giue them as much reuerence as were lawfull to be giuen to any man Chap. What if they should put forth their feet to be kist Salt I finde that our Sauiour to teach humility washt other mens feet but I doe not read that he required any either to kisse or wash his feete though no man were too good to do it and those that did it were to bee commended for their loue as shee that powred oyntment on him is to bee remembred wheresoeuer the Gospell shall be preached to be remembred I say not by painting her with a whip in her hand Luke 7.38 Math. 26.13 as if shée were a Iesuite but her doing is to bee spoken of Chap. Your talking of translations hath made you digresse from the salt of obedience returne to it againe Salt I will Wee are to obey those in God for whom we must pray Tim. 1.2 Pro. 8 15.1● Pro. 12.1 which reigne and rule by God and for the glory of God who turneth the hearts whithersoeuer it pleaseth him but godly Kings are such therefore so to be obeyed We are to obey that Ruler which loueth him that speaketh right things Prou. 16.13 Prou. 20.26 scattereth the wicked and causeth the whéele to go● ouer them but this is done by a wise King therefore we are to obey him We are to feare to offend him whose wrath and feare is like the roaring of a Lyon Prou. 19.12 Prous 20 2. and in the light of whose countenance is life Prou. 16.15 but such are these things in a King therefore we should feare to offend him We are to loue honour and obey him who sitteth in his Throne Prou. 20.8 Prou. 29.4 chaseth away euill with his eyes and by iudgement maintaineth the Country but so doth a King as Salomon saith ergo we are to loue honour and obey him It is a shame for reasonable creatures hauing a King not to do that which Grasse-hopper swanting both reason and a King do Prou. 30.27 The Grasse-hopper saith the same Salomon hath no King yet goe they forth all by bands meaning they kéepe order though they haue no guide The faithfull subiects that séeke the peace of the Church the common good their own good and the fauour of God are to obey such commandements of their King as are in the same predicament if I may so speake in which were the commandements of that good King Hezechias but these commandements Goe to Church heare Gods word communicate pray for vnity peace and concord c. are of the same kinde as his were therefore they are to be obeyed c. Chap. What commandement of Hezechias do you speake of Salt Such as are mentioned Vers ● 2. Chron. 30. where it is said that Hezekias sent to all Israel and Iudah and also wrote Letters to Ephraim and Manasses that they should come to the house of the Lord at Ierusalem to keepe the Passouer vnto the Lord God of Israel So the Priests went with Letters by the Cōmission of the King and his Princes through all Israel and Iudah and with the commandement of the King saying Yee children of Israel and Iudah turne againe vnto the Lord God of Abraham Isaac and Israel and he will returne to the remnant that are escaped of you out of the hands of the King of Ashur 7 And be not you like your Fathers like your brethren which trespassed against the Lord God of your Fathers and therefore hee made them desolate as yee see 8 Be not ye stiffe-necked like your Fathers but giue the hand to the Lord and come into his sanctuary which he hath sanctified for euer and serue the Lord your God and the fiercenesse of his wrath shall turn● away from you For if you returne vnto the Lord your brethren and your children shall finde mercy before them that led them captiues and they shall returne vnto this land for the Lord your God is gracious and mercifull and will not turne away his face from you if you conuert vnto him Chap. What entertainment had
had to it otherwise they might haue deuised decent apparell differing from that of their enemies the knew wel if Saul had Ioued Steuen hee would neuer haue kept the cloathes of him that stoned him Salt Saul kept the persecutors cloathes as one consenting to his death and he did it willingly and as one that hated Steuens doctrine but these reuerend fathers whose loue to the Gospel and suffering for the same is worthy to be remembred while the Sun and Moone keèpe their course though some whose filthy idolatry cannot be but hated of the iealous God do cal them stinking Mattyrs these godly and true zealous men I say did not consent but lament for the bloudy butchering of all that trusted to be saued by the mercy of God towards them through the merits of Iesus Christ our onely redéemer so the howsoeuer some of them thought good not onely to kéepe them but also to were such things for a time yet it is well knowne they did as much detest their aduersaries cruelty as Saul conuerted was sorry for his persecuting as those graue wise and godly men thought good to beare with the weakenesse of men then hoping that in time they would become perhaps stronger though things fell not out to their expectations so now it may bee those that are in authority thinke that the wearing of ●his coate would bee a politique kind of ●hewing-horne if I may so call it without ●ffence to draw such as are backewards to ●●ng another note so that the Shepeheards ●ou speake of if they may with any quiet●●esse of conscience shall do well as I think ●eing now vrged to obey least they séeme ●o such as be in authority rather opiniatiue ●hen zealous Chap. It may be these Shepeheards are ●erswaded that it is no more expedient for 〈◊〉 professor of the Gospell to weare these ●hings Tertul. de Coron millitis then in Tertullians iudgment as I ●aue heard for a Christian to goe as the ●leathen did with a laurell garland vpon their head Sal. It was méete that the Christians should abstaine from that Beatus Rhenanus in argu●●●●●● in libro Tertul. de Cōron iml. as Beatus Rhenanus saith for these causes Partem ne infir●nior ex Christianis offenderetur partim ●e echunici in suis erroribus cōfirmarenter dum rectius putant esse quod etiam Christianos obseruare vident partly least any of the weaker Christians should bee offended partly least the Heathen also should bée incouraged in their errours thinking that thing for that the Christians themselues do it to be the better but if you haue any more to say touching these Shepeheards speake quickly for I would faine make an end of this matter Chap. What if some of their Sheepe should iudge according to the outward appeerance and say if our Shepeheards yeeld to any thing which heeretofore they haue misliked we will come to the fold with the inside of our cloakes outwards doe you thinke it would not grieue our Shepeheards to heare this Salt If they haue fed their Shéepe with sound fodder heretofore let them do so still let them in that point vse the same whistle and the same note and the wiser sort things béeing as they bée will think neuer that worse of thē Hungry Shéepe that bée not wanton will hearken to the note not stand staring on the coate they séed vpon fodder not vpon colour vpon substance and not vpon shewes Chap. But it may be if they should yeeld to this they should be vrged further Salt And it may bée if they could or would yéeld so farre they might find such fauour being skilfull and painefull Shepheards that they should be vrged no further Howsoeuer it be God grant for Christ his sake that both commanders and such as be commanded may do his will But now I sée more Chapmen therefore tell mée quickly what ●isease he hath whom you called a mā of my ●oate for our digressing to others hath ●ade vs almost forgetfull of him for whom you came Cha. It may bee ere I come home to that man I may meete with some of those Shepheards wee haue talked of therefore if you haue any Salt to season them let mee ●aue some Salt I know there is not any Canoni●all Salt that sauoreth of obedience but they haue it already and know how to vse ●t Chap. Haue you no other Salt here Sal. If Canonicall Salt will not serue what do you aske for other I haue but a ●ittle other Salt heere and touching these matters I remember I haue some in a Lattine boxe made by one whose labours in searching for the truth all that loue the truth are to praise God Chap. I pray let mee haue that box and if it bee too heard for mee to open I will get some that haue skill to help me Salt I know by some of your former speeches that you can make a shift to open a harder Lattine box then this Chap. Well let me see it Sal. Si non licet obtinere quod cupimus fe●ramus illos defectus non approbemus modo 〈◊〉 subsit illic impietas aliudue dei verbo repugnans vt si quod Cal. in quadam Epistola verbi gratia idolatriae specime● existeret illi ad mortem vsque resisti a nobi● oporteret vbi verò Doctrina ipsa sana at que pura est ac ceremoniae ad ciuilem quandam honestatem vel decorum vsurpantur silentio nobi● praetereunda sunt ista magis quam vt corum occasione ad disceptationes et grauiores motus veniendum sit Chap. Will you giue me leaue to open it heere before I goe hence Sal. Yes Chap. If we may not obtaine that which we desire let vs beare those defects not approoue them see that no impietie be there vnder or any other thinge repugnant to the word of God as if for examples sake thereshould be any kinde of Idolatrie we ought to resist it euen to the death But where the Doctrine it selfe is sound and pure and the ceremonies vsed for some ciuill honestie and decencie these thinges are rather to be passed ouer of vs with silence then that for their cause we should come to wrangling and more grieuous broyles now if you haue any more Boxes of this kind I pray you let me haue one more Sal. Itaque primum respondemus The. Beza Epist 12. c. quum non sint ex earum rerum genere quae per se impiae sunt non uideri nobis tanti momenti vt propteria Pastoribus descerendum sit potius Ministerium quam vt vestes illas assumant vel gregibus omittendum publicum pabulum potius quam it a vestitos Pastores audiant Open it now Chap. Therefore first we answere c Sithe these things be not of that sort which are of themselues impious they seeme not to vs to be of so great moment that for them eyther the Pastors should choose to forsake their Ministery rather
fellow euen as I had pitty on thee So his maister was wroth and deliuered him to the Iaylors till hee should pay all that was due to him So likewise shall my heauenly Father do to you Note except you forgiue from your hearts each one to his brother their trespasses Blessed bee the mercifull Math. 5.7 for they shall obtaine mercy Be ye courteous one towards another Eph. 4 3● tender hearted forgiuing one another euen as God for Christs sake forgaue you Whatsoeuer you would that men should doe vnto you euen so doe yee to them for this is the Law and the Prophets If you doe forgiue men their trespasses your heauenly father will also forgiue you your trespasses Math. 6 14 ●● But if you do not forgiue men their trespasses no more will your father forgiue you your trespasses Now therefore as the elect of God ●ol 3.11 holy and beloued put on tender mercy kindnesse humblenesse of minde meeknesse long suffering Forbearing one another and forgiuing one another 1● if any man haue a quarrell to another euen as Christ forgaue euen so doe yee ●4 And aboue all things put on loue which is the bond of perfectnesse The twelfth Chapman NOW come I. Salt For whom Chap. For one that is very curious in washing his hands and in cleansing the outsides of all his vessels but if one looke into the inside of them he shall finde them so foule and filthy that it would loath a man to eate any thing that commeth out of them Salt I haue some for you besides that which I deliuered to the eight Chapman that is this Woe bee to you Scribes and Pharisies Mat. ●3 25 hypocrites for yee make cleane the vtter side of the cup and platter but within they are full of bribery and excesse 26 Thou blind Pharisie cleanse first the inside of the cup and platter that the outside of them may be cleane also Wo be to you Scribes and Pharisies 27 hypocrites for you are like vnto whited tombes which appeare beautifull outward but are within full of dead-mens bones 28 of all filthinesse so are yee also for outward yee appeare righteous vnto men but within ye are full of hypocrisie and iniquity yee lay the commandements of God apart and obserue the traditions of men Mark 7.28 Chap. This is somewhat a byting Salt Salt It is such as is fit for the men you come for therefore if you like it take it and giue place to another Chap. I like it well but I would haue some more of it for such men cannot haue too much of this kind of Salt Sal. Then you make a great difference betwixt this Salt and that which is commonly set on the Table the which although it be commodious and necessary for many things yet S. Augustine saith thus of it Salem immoderatius acceptum De moribus Manicheorum cap. 8. quis non venenus esse clamauerit who cryeth not that salt immoderately taken is poyson Chap. But store of Canonicall Salt well giuen and well taken doth not poyson but season therfore I pray you let me haue some more Salt Euery one will deceiue his friend Ier. 5.4 and will not speake the truth for they haue taught their tongues to speake lies and take great paines to do wickedly c. Therefore thus saith the Lord of Hosts behold I will melt them 7 and try them c. 8 Their tongue is as an arrow shut out and speaketh deceit one speaketh peaceably to his neighbour with his mouth but in his heart he layeth waite for him 9 Shall I not visite for these things saith the Lord or shal not my soule be aduenged on such a nation as this Chap. Past grace bee they that make light of this Salt but I will giue place The thirteenth Chapman I am glad I haue his roome Sal. You would bee more glad if you had all Rome Chap. What it hath bene in times past I know not but since I can remember I can see no such good come from thence as should moue any wise-man to bee in loue with it I cannot bee perswaded that superstition idolatry gazing on babies roarinig Buls conspiracies vndermining of states monstruous cruelty c. come from Peters chaire such Babylons cannot but fall and come to confusion the English pillars of it begin to totter already thanks bee to God God grant that the Preachers and professors of the Gospell may loue one another and that euery one may keepe his standing as contented in his place to helpe what hee may to beare vp the roofe of so much of the Lords house as is here amongst vs. Salt Chapman I will bee your Clarke this once and say Amen to your praier but tell me now what you come for Chap. I would haue Salt to season one that trusteth to his riches and is so carryed away with couetousnesse that he thinketh corne is neuer deere enough Salt Take this Iam. 3 24. The Lord is my portion saith my soule therefore I will hope in him 25 The Lord is good to them that trusteth him and to the soule that seeketh him 26 It is good both to trust and to waite for the saluation of the Lord. If riches increase set not your hearts vpon them Psal 62 10 Doublesse man walketh in a shadow Psal 39.6 and disquieteth himselfe in vaine he heapeth vp riches and cannot tell who shall gather them And hee that receiueth the seed among thornes Mat. 1● 22 is he that heareth the word but the care of this world and the deceitfulnesse of riches choake the word and he is made vnfiuitfull Children Mark 10.24 how hard is it for them that trust in riches to enter into the Kingdome of God Riches auaile not in the day of wrath P●ou 11.4 but righteousnesse deliuereth from death The liberall person shall haue plenty 〈◊〉 ●● 25. and he that watereth shall also haue raine Hee that withdraweth the corne the people will cursse him Prou. but blessing shall bee vpon the head of him that selleth corne The graue and destruction can neuer be full 22.9 so the eyes of men can neuer bee satisfied He that hath a good eye he shall be blessed for he giueth of his bread to the poore 27.20 Heare this ye that swallow vp the poore Amos. 8.4 that ye make the needy of the land to faile Saying 5 when will the new moneth beginne that we may sell corne And the Sabboth that wee may set forth wheate and make the Ephah that is the measure small and the Shekell that is the price great and falsefy the waights of deceite That wee may buy the poore for siluer 6 and the needy for shewes yet sell the refuse of the wheate The Lord hath sworne by the excellency of Iacob surely 7 I will neuer forget any of their workes Shall not