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A20215 Answeres to certaine novations desired by some to be embraced by the reformed church some defend one part, others another part of these novations : in this treatise their chief objections are turned into questions. 1638 (1638) STC 664.7; ESTC S1042 60,919 98

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Gods favour and mercie it is a spirituall song and melodie in the heart to the Lord though it want outward musick Quest But in Coloss 3.16 he biddeth admonish one another in psalmes and hymnes Answ When men know not what they sing they neither admonish nor are admonished by such melody 2. Paul admonisheth Christians not to be like Pagans who at their feasts and other occasions were delighted with badry filthy and protain longs but they should use songs of heavenly consolation and of spirituall admonitions and instructions tending to edification See the end of Chapter 6. CHAP. VI. Some never sing the words Glory to the Father to the Son and to the holy Ghost As it was in the beginning is now and ever shall be world without end Some sing them at every passage of the psalmes Quest ARE these words or their meaning in the Scriptures Answ In Math 28. the Disciples are bidden baptise in the name of the three persons of the Godhead In 2 Cor. 13.14 Paul prayeth to them In Esay 6.3 the three persons are pointed at in the words Holy holy holy c. In Revel 4.8 is the meaning of the whole sentence viz. Holy holy holy Lord God almightie which was and is and is to come In Psal 45.7 God hath anointed thee with the oyl of gladnesse above thy fellows That is The Father hath declared the Son to be anoynted with the holy Ghost fully dwelling in Him by whom His manhead is replenished with gifts above all measure And thus John 1 John 2.27 calleth the Holy Ghost the anointing that teacheth The psalm 136. biddeth Give glorie to God pointing at the unity of his essence in the words Iehovah and Adonai and in the relative His and at the plurality of persons in the words Elohim Haadenim And at His Unchangablenes and Eternity in the words His mercie endureth for ever His mercy indureth not without Himselfe for it floweth from Him In Psalm 110.1 The Lord said to my Lord that is The Father hath said to the Son And in vers 2. the Holy Ghost is called The rod of thy strength Hee is a golden Scepter holden out to comfort the godlie but an Tron Rod to bruise the Wicked Item the three persons are mentioned in the second psalme Quest Should these vvords be sung concluding every passage of the psalmes or should they never be sung at all Ans It is a necessary duety of thankfulnes to make expresse mention of our benefactors so far as we know them such are the persons of the Trinity The papists superstitiously said these words at the masse and at the end of every psalm read in proofe albeit they had read ten psalms in an hour as if the psalms had no religious use without these words others reject them altogether The papist by the frequent use of the words make great shew of holines that men may take lesse notise of their errors and heresies They who neglect the words make a great show of precisenes that their erroneous novations may seem to be nothing else but precisenesse 2. Therefore these words or words of the like sense should be used because the duty of thankfulnes should distinctly expresse our benefactors and sometimes they should be omitted to eschew superstition and the appearance thereof and to show that God may be praised expressing only the Unity of Essence as well as the distinction of Persons Quest May vve not glorifie God sometimes expressing onlie one or tvvo of the persons Ans We may do it both in prayer divine praise for as the wife is inriched by the riches given to her Husband so is the Husband by the riches of his wife Matrimoniall union maketh their riches not to be divided The soul the body and all the members thereof are honoured if a crown be put on a mans Head a ring on his finger a chain on his neck because of the naturall union of the members of the body and because of the personall union which is a more strict naturall union of the soul body so if thou honour any of the three peisons it redoundeth to them all not only because they all work together in every work that God doth to the creatures and therefore all the three merit the same glory honour but also because of their essentiall union in one Godhead 2. This is practised in Philip. 4.20 Vnto God our Father be glorie Paul prayed to the Father and to the Son 1 Thess 3.11 and to Christ only 2 Thess 3.18 2 Tim. 2.22 Peter glorisieth Christ 2 Pet. 3.18 Christ said Pray Our Father vvhich art in heaven Luk. 11.3 If then the Honour expresly given to one of the three persons redound unto all of them it can not be prejudiciall to any of the three if the Honour be expresly given to all the three 4. Albeit neither the whole sentence nor the parts thereof were so expresly mentioned in Scriptures as they are yet either this or the like sentence with good reason should be sung in divine praise because not only the whoole book of the psalms but all the Scriptures all Gods works mercies also tend to the setting foorth of the praise glory of all the 3. persons 5. Christ might have commanded the Apostles to baptise in the name of Father only or of God ony but He commanded to expresse all the three persons to show that as we increase in the knowledge of God so we should expresse more punctually that which we know of God 6. As for the last verse of the 28. psalme containing a short prayer for Gods people it is very pertinent to sing it or the like sentence with the words of praise foresaid because prayer and praise agree well together so Christ conjoined them together in the Lords prayer adding to the prayer the words For thine is the kingdome the power and glory c. and also it is fit oftimes to use such short verses of prayer and praise as we conclude the singing of psalmes that such as can not read may get these lines in their memories to sing them with the people if they can do no further this may be done without abusing of Gods name and it is used by many in a laudable custome Many of the psalmes do conjoin praise and prayer we then may do the same both at the singing of psalmes and in our prayers CHAP. VII Some after Divine Service blesse the People in a legall manner Quest SHould not the Preacher after Divine Service say The Lord blesse you c. Answ He should say The LORD blesse us and save us c. not excluding himself in a legall manner for these reasons 1. To acknowledge thereby his owne miserie and that he hath need of blessing as much as any of the people and so he casteth away pharisaicall holinesse 2. To eschew Judaisme the priests did pray and offer sacrifice for themselves and for the people acknowledging thus their own sinfull condition and miserie
effectuall with his members reading old conceptions in any Divine Service 2. The censuring of read prayers is an indirect disallowing of reading the Scriptures except the Lords Prayer which expresseth all our wants and that for the same reasons which they use against read prayers viz. They are read They expresse not all our wants Men know them before they read them They are often repeated They are not their conceptions who read them 3. Thus thou disallowest that aged men sing psalms which is more barnelie then reading of prayers for children delight more in musick But except we be humble like bairnes in submitting our selves to the simplicitie of Gods word we shall not enter into the kingdome of Heaven 4. Reading and conceiving prayers without feeling is both bairnly and manly for it is naturall to young and old to pagans and Pharisaicall professours but if there be a sense and feeling Gods Spirit worketh it above nature 5. If few conceptions ma●● prayers bairnly then our set forms are more manly then almost all the prayers in Scripture of any form for we expresse mo conceptions in them Thus our Novators will seem to have more of the working and presence of Gods Spirit then all Gods Saints in Scripture and out of Scripture who follow not their errours because they have longer prayers God grant that they devour not widows houses under pretence of long prayers and that they think not to be heard by much speaking as Christ speaketh of the Heathen Matth. 6. Shall Christ and his Saints in Scripture be esteemed lesse zealous lesse religious and of lesse perfection because their prayers were shorter and because many of their prayers did not expresse all their wants Quest Why hath Gods Spirit mixed prayers with the praising of God in the Psalmes Answ That in our mirth and singing we should not be exalted out of measure but in the midst of our mirth we should remember our miserie in seeking iuccour and relief 2. Because the prayers include in themselfs a confession of his praise for when we seek good things it is an acknowledging that God is able and willing to give them this is a great praise 3. Christ in the Lords prayer did joine praise with prayer to stir up our courage in the assurance that God will hear us when we say For thine is the kingdome power and glory c. And in the psalms prayer is joyned with praise for the same end also thus we pray in a cheerfull manner and praise God in a modest gravitie Adde these following to the Chap. 5. Of formall and materiall praise in the psalms Quest WHat is divine praise formally Answ It is a serious and loving commemoration of any good thing that is in God or from God which is done to the setting foorth of his excellencie and worthinesse Thus if the words expresse directly his properties and noble acts to be in him or from him whether in a proper or figurative speach it is a formall divine praise It is acted two wayes first without melodie and in prose as when Job said The Lord hath given and the Lord hath taken blessed be the Name of the Lord Job 1. and David said Let us fall into the hands of the LORD for his mercies are great 2 Sam. 24. Secondly or with melodie vocall or instrumentall If it was vocall only the Hebrews called it Shir a song if instruments were added to it then it was called Mizmor a psalme Quest What is divine praise materially when this formalitie is not expressed Answ When the good things which procure praise unto God or prove Him to be praise-worthie are mentioned not expressing any confession that they belong unto God as the first five verses of the first psalm prove by way of consequent that God is good and bountifull in that they are blessed who sit not with scorners but meditate continually on Gods lavv c. If God were not good and bountifull they could not be blessed nor prosper for as wicked tyrants afflict the godly rather than others so would God do if he were unmercifull and cruell 2. When the wicked deeds of Doeg and Achitophell and others are mentioned it commendeth the long suffering patience of God in that they lived on the earth a moment his justice is more manifested in punishing them 3. In the psalmes 6.51 and 143. in their prayers by way of consequent God is acknowledged to bee Almighty and mercifull otherwise men would not seek such things from him 4. All formall praise consisteth in an expressed confession and acknowledgement that the good things are in God or from God The materiall praise hath not this confession and acknowledgement expressed but understood and included in the words and may be proven to be procured and merited by the things mentioned in the words 5. The materiall praise is as true and reall as the formall as true praise is included in this prayer Leave not my soul in hell as when we say Thou hast not left or dost not or shall not leave my soul in hell by way of confession but the praise included in the prayer is not so conspicuous Quest Why is the book of divine praise called the book of the psalmes seeing many prayers are also in it Answ Because these prayers are also divine praises materiallie though not formallie for divine praise is included in them 2. Many works are named from the things in them which are of greatest moment or manyest in number a book of Jeremy is called the Lamentations for it is full of mourning speeches yet divine praises and prayers are also in it the books of the Kings have also histories of some priests and prophets the Lords prayer hath also some formall praise in it viz. For thine is kingdome power and glory c. but mo formald petitions and prayers are in it praise is included in them in the first three for things that concern Gods glory in the last three for things that concerns mans necessitie Quest Can we in one sentence and in the same words both praise God and pray unto him at once Answ Many sentences have formall praise which include no prayer in them as when we say God is Almighty and Eternall God dwelleth in heaven Christ is the only begotten Son of God he is God and Man in one person but no sincere prayer wanteth divine praise included in it the formall prayers of the psalmes have materiall praises included in them and so he that singeth the prayer doth also praise 2. Two contraries in extreme degrees can not be in one subject as they may be in their remitted degrees prayer and praise are diverse things but not contrary then as the Sun in one beame of light may send down both heat and illumination at once so we may send up unto God prayer and praise in one sentence whether the prayer be formall and the praise materiall as O Lord rebuke me not in thine anger for it redoundeth to Gods praise