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A89189 A sober ansvvere to an angry pamphlet, or, Animadversions, by way of reply, to Robert Barclays late book (entituled, Truth cleared of calumnies) in answere to A dialogue between a Quaker and a stable Christian by VVilliam Mitchell. Mitchell, William, 17th cent. 1671 (1671) Wing M2294; ESTC R43708 69,116 149

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their spiritual descent from Christ upon as sure grounds if not surer grounds then any Quaker are smothering and resisting the Light because forsooth they will not dance after your pipe Fourthly Shew forth less folly It would be your wisdom to be well acquainted with your own hearts and not to pretend so much to the knowledge of other mens hearts when as it may be ye know not their names Fifthly Shew forth less contrariety in your doctrines to the good and holy word of GOD. Set not your selves against the ordinances of Christ and Iustification by his imputed Righteousness Sixthly Shew forth less ignorance as to the nature of true Conversion crying out against formes and wearing of ribbands speaking thou and thee and keeping on the hatt condemning all that are not of your gang saying ye were never well till now which is a great part of the Religion of many of your Proselytes will never prove you nor them to be true Converts Seventhly Shew forth less endeavours for promoting the Popish interest if ye were under their hire ye could not advance their interest more then by decrying our Ministry and Churches when once ye have perswaded people to the belief of this then they are fit matter for Priests to work upon and they cannot but thank you for doing their work to their hands Sir if you listen not to my advice yet I have followed my Light in tendering it unto you Sir in the close of your preface you fall foule upon the Authour of the Dialogue as having deceitfully misrepresented the Quakers which is a crime he is not sensible of for his designe in the Dialogue was not to tell the world all the Scriptures which the Quakers abuse but onely to give a true information of the grossest of their opinions and briefly to answere some of their arguments and to lay down Scripture grounds for instructing the ignorant and confirming the weak in the truth which He was in some capacity to do having exchanged several papers with Quakers and would have continued in replying to their papers but that he was told it would prove no better then according to the proverb lis Ptolemaica that is a long and constant strief Quakers as he heard being like some froward and scolding women who will be sure to have the last word and indeed after this he is resolved to let Mr. Barclay have it Some are of opinion that Quakers are of their nature who are best appeased by neglect and soonest quieted by silence and yet a total neglect of them though they be contemptible in the eyes of many may make them formidable Sir It is altogether unnecessary to be at paines in ripping up your wild comparisons it were easie to be sharp in reflections but these things can neither commend to GOD nor good men and therefore desiring you and your brethren would allow some time for reading this my Answer which was in readiness diverse moneths ago but a convenient opportunity was wanting to publish it till now I take my leave wishing the LORD the great and Mighty GOD to extend his Power and Mercy for your recovery and that he would reclaime you according to the working whereby he is able to subdue all to himself Philipp 3● 21. W. M. The Epistle to the Reader Christian Reader IF a person who really affects retirement hath adventured thus to appear in publick when hereby he brings himself under the lash of the censures of many which otherwise he might escape his plea is that Truth even the least graine of truth is so choice and precious that it calls to the denyal of these things which would stand in the way and hinder an undertaking of the defence of it If it be said that an abler hand had been meeter for a work of this importance the Authours apology is that what is done needs be no impediment to others but rather a provocation of them to appeare for the interest of truth which is so much trampled upon in the meane time let none find fault with the Authour for doing that which in other cases passeth for good service when a house is on fire he that brings water to quench it though it may be he contribute but a little help yet he is not blamed but encouraged Now the flame of errour has more danger in it then a flame of fire and therefore an endeavour to quench it cannot be justly censured In case the Author be twitted with this that he has done nothing but what was done before his answere is that if the adversaries of truth have been at paine● to pluck out of the dunghill of Heresie old errours and to send them abroad in a new dress then the authour should not be quarrelled with for making use of these weapons by which heretofore good old truths have been defended And he further saith that Popery from the mouth of a Quaker will be swallowed downe by some as glorious discoveries who yet would not listen to a Popish Priest speaking the same things And therefore the Authour thinks that it may be good service to well meaning people to take off the Quakers arguments by the same answeres which PROESTANTS have used against Papists that so it may appear that Quakers and Papists are sailing in one boat though their faces look several wayes but not willing to detaine the Reader any longer from perusing the following Treatise which that it may be blessed for reducing the mislead and establishing those that yet stand is and shal be the earnest desire of him who is Thy Servant for Christs sake William Mitchell GOOD READER Be pleased to do Me that favour as to correct with thy pen these following mistakes Page 16. line 20 read incolis p. 27. l. 15. r. have not alwayes many p. 52. l. 4. r. which is said to be more p. 53. l. 1. r. causa infirma Epist p. 1 l. 1. r. reproach for reroach p. 16. l. 20. r. it s rightly translated p. 54. l. 17. r. Now in that he saith p. 94. l. 23. r. repeale Reader there are diverse othter literal escapes but seeing they do not obscure the sense it s expected thou wilt in charity cover them If any thing in the book seeme dark I desire thou wouldst look into the Dialogue to which the book hath reference and by that means thou mayest get some clearness Some ANIMADVERTIONS By way of Reply to a Book ENTITVLED TRUTH CLEARED OF CALUMNIES I. HEAD Wherein the Lawfulness of Salutations is justified SECT I. Concerning Salutations by Gestures THE AUTHOUR HAving after the Quaker-rate saluted me with Reproaches then page 10. 11. he telleth us that Quakers dearly owne Salutations warranted by the Scriptures such as Christ commanded and the Saints practised but the salutations that are amongst us he calleth corrupt and Idolatrous and instanceth in bowing the Body and uncovering the head The reason alleadged to prove this to be Idolatry is because these things are the signification of our worship