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A46775 A net for the fishers of men and the same which Christ gave to His Apostles Wherein the points controverted betwixt Catholiques and sectaries, are briefly vindicated, by way of dilemma. By two gentlemen late converts. J. C., late convert.; J. M'C, late convert. aut 1686 (1686) Wing J5B; ESTC R221649 17,198 131

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A NET FOR THE Fishers of MEN And the same which Christ gave to his Apostles Wherein the Points contraverted betwixt Catholiques and Sectaries are briefly vindicated by way of Dilemma By two Gentlemen Late CONVERTS Mark 1.17 And Jesus said unto them come ye after me and I will make ye to become Fishers of Men. Printed Anno 1686. To Her Most Excellent Majesty Mary Queen of Great Britan. May it please your Sacred Majesty WHat in this little Book is contained being the Motives of of our Conversions to the amient Apostolical Catholique Roman Church we have made bold to Didicate it to Your Serene Majesty and also our Harts Blood and Life to the Service of your Royal Spouse Great James the Second We humbly beg Pardon for presuming to put the Products of so weak Brains under so Princely and Gracious a Patronage acknowledging a Matter of so great Moment not only far above our unlearned Capacities but that rather it required the Learning of St. Hierome the Eloquence of St. Chrisostome the Quick Witt of St. Augustine the Sobriety of St. Ambrose and sweet Stile of St. Barnard But Madam if favourably received by your Great Majesty our Adversaries who will undergo to answer it shall find that Children set upon the shoulders of so High Giants as the forementioned Pious Fathers were shall see farther into Heavenly Religion than he that proudly will not follow Scripture Councils nor Fathers but his own human Inventions and private Spirits after the creuel Example of the Tyrant Proclus who made Men of all Proportions fit the length of his Bed by cutting off him what was too long or by drawing him longer who was too short Most Sacred Madam what is promised if received into Your Majesties Protection which we most humbly beg may be the easier performed because the chast Spouse of the most High wanteth not a thousand Bucklers of Defence Again humbly beging Pardon for this Ambition of avowing our selves Your Majesties Most Humble Most Obedient and Most Loyal Subjects C. J. J. M'C TO THE READER SAcred Writ informs us that in the primitive Times our Blessed Saviour begining to lay the Foundation of his holy Church called Fishermen to the Apostleship and to those he gave a Net which was the Wisdom and Knowledg of the Eternal Father suitable for taking such Fish as swim in the Ocean of Apostacy Heresy and Schisme The Apostles after Experiencing the great good that did ●●●own'd to the World by the special benefit of this Net and the many Souls that were caught therein would not prejudice the Church 〈◊〉 robbing her of so ●agnificent a Gift ●ut bury'd the same in the Bowels of holy Scripture where we illuminated by the Father of Light finding so precious a Treasure though ●it to present it unto you Curteous Reader as a pledg of our affectionate Respects it being the only Motive of our Conversions hoping if perused with no more Passion prejudice or Interest then we did who had as great Aversion against the Catholique Church as you or any other can have that it may produce the same effects in your heart that it hath in ours If you acknowledg to be convinced in all Points saving these which we omitted for brevitys sake Viz. the unbloody Sacrafice of the Mass Communion under one kind the Works of Supererogation c. We hope to go Victorious out of the Field But if any will undertake to answer this little Treatise he shall not be the Instrument only of our Recantation but o● many more We with all Christian sincerity desire that if you can resolve the following Queries for to annex your Answer thereunto if not we Pray the devine Majesty of his infinite Mercy to iluminate you with the Beams of his holy and saving Grace which shall ever be the Prayers of your well Wishers in Christ Farewel C. I. J. M'C TO The Holy Wisdom of of the Glorious Trinity BLessed Everliving Wisdom Exellent and Supream Intelligence behold us prostrate before the Majesty of your Great and Divine Light to offer up the Hommage of our Persons and Book humbly acknowledging the Nothing both of the one and the other and with all the Powers of our Souls protesting to have neither Spirit nor Pen which is not of Yon and from You who are the Scource of all good Thoughts and Accomplishment of all Honourable and Praise-worthy Discourses A NET For the FISHERS of MEN. First GOD hath a true Church in the World or not if not then Christ left Man without a Medium to Salvation if he hath yours is that true Church or not if not than yours is not the true Christian Church if it be than your Church must have these following marks viz. Visibility Unity Universality and Sanctity which the Scriptures teacheth to be the Signes of Christ ' s Immaculate Spouse VISIBILITY Demonstrated to be a Mark of the true Church 2. THe House of our Lord shall be prepared on the top of Mountains or not if it be why then do you deny that the Church may be always visible if not why do you deny that of Isa 2.2 The Mountain of the house of our Lord shall be prepared on the top of Mountains 3. A City seated on a Hill can be hid or not if it can why do you deny that of St. Mat. 5 14. A City seated upon a Hill cannot be hid if not than the Church cannot be invisible 4. Christ founded a Church on Earth that all Nations may be edified therein or not if not why do you deny that of Isa 2.2 All Nations shall flow unto her 〈◊〉 again Psal 85.9 All Nations whatsoever thou hast made shall com● and adore before thee if he did why then do you say the Church may be invisible since all Nations cannot be edified in a Church unseen 5. A Man for not hearing the Church is tearmed in Scripture a Heathen and Publican or not if not why the● do you deny the wor●● of St. Mt. 18.18 He th●● will not hear thee Church let him be to the as an Heathen and Publican if he be how than shall a Man be termed an Heathen for not hearing a Church that was not visible or yet extant in the World UNITY Demonstrated to be a mark of the True Church 6. A Natural Unity and conection or the parts among thems●lves and to the head is necessary for the conservation of the natural body or not if not how can a natural body subsist if the parts be devided and torn from one another from the head If it be why is that natural conection proper to a natural body and not a spiritual conection proper to a spritual body 7. Christ promised that there should be unity in his Church or not if not why do you deny that of St. John 10.16 there shall be made one fol● and one Pas●o● if he did why do you deny unity 8. Unity is requisite in Gods Church or not if not why do you deny that of