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A13748	The examinacion of Master William Thorpe preste accused of heresye before Thomas Arundell, Archebishop of Ca[n]terbury, the yere of ower Lord .MCCCC. and seuen. The examinacion of the honorable knight syr Jhon Oldcastell Lorde Cobham, burnt bi the said Archebisshop, in the fyrste yere of Kynge Henry the Fyfth.	Thorpe, William, d. 1407?; Tyndale, William, attributed name.; Constantine, George, ca. 1501-1559, attributed name.; Oldcastle, John, Sir, d. 1417. Examinacion of the honorable knight syr Jhon Oldcastell. aut	1530 (1530)	STC 24045; ESTC S104932	68,800	141

sweare vntruely For they saye they maye by their swearing though it be false voide blame or temporall harme which they sholde haue yf they sweare not thus And sir many mē women maynteyne strongly that they sweare well whan that thinge is sothe that they sweare for Also full many men and women say nowe that it is well done to sweare by creatures whā they maye not as they saye otherwise be beleued Annd also full many men and women now say that it is well done to sweare by god and by oure ladye and by other seyntes for to haue thē in mynde But syns all these saiynges ar but excusations and synne me thinketh sir that his sentēce of Chrisostome may be alleged well ageinste all soch swerers witnessing that all thes synne greuously though they thinke themself for to sweare in this forsaid wyse well For it is euyll done and greate synne for to sweare trewthe whan in ony maner a man may excuse hī with out othe And the archebishop said that Chrisostome might be thus vnderstonde And than a clerke said to me Wilt thou tarye my lorde no lenger but submit the here mekely to the ordinaunce of holy chirche and laye thyne hande vpon a booke touching the holy gospell of god promysynge not onely with thy mouthe but also with thyne harte to stande to my lordes ordinaunce And I said Sir haue I not told you here howe that I herde a master of diuinite say that in soche a case it is all one to touche a boke and to sweare by a boke And the archebishop said There is no master of diuinite in Englond so greate that yf he hold thys opinion before me but I shall punisshe him as I shall do the except thou sweare as I shall charge the. And I said Sir is not Chrisostome an ententyfe doctour And the Archebishop saide Ye And I sayde Yf Chrisostome proueth hym woorthy greate blame that bryngeth forthe a booke to swere vppon it muste nedes folowe that he is more to blame that sweareth on that booke And the Archebishop said Yf Chrisostome ment accordingly to the ordinaunce of holy chirche we will accepte him And than said a clerke to me Ys not the worde of god god himself equipollent that is off one authorite And I saide Ye Than he said to me Why wilt thou not swere than by the gospell of god that is gods worde syns it is all one to sweare by the worde of god by god himselfe And I said Sir syns I may not nowe other wyse be beleued but by swearynge I perceyue as Augustine saithe that it is not spedefull that ye that shold be my brothern sholde not beleue me therfore I am redy by the worde of god as the lorde commaunded me by his worde to sweare Than the clerke said to me Laye than thyne hāde vpō the boke touching the holy gospell of god and take thy charge And I said Sir I vnderstonde that the holy gospell of god maye not be touched with mannes hande And the clerke saide I fonded and that I sayde not trewthe And I asked this clerke whether it wer more to reade the gospell or to touche the gospell And he said it was more to reade the gospell Than I said Sir by authorite of seynt Ierome the gospell is not the gospell for reding of the letter but for the beleue that men haue in the worde of god that it is the gospell that we beleue and not the letter that we rede for because the letter that is touched with mannes hande is not the gospell but the sentence that is verely beleued in mānis hart is the gospell For so seynt Ierome saith The gospell that is the vertue of goddes worde is not in the leauys of the boke but it is in the roote of reason Nother the gospell he saith is in the writing aboue of the letters but the gospell is in the marking of y● sentence of scriptures This sentence approueth seynt Paule saiynge thus The kyngdome of god is not in worde but in vertue And Dauid saith The voice of the lorde that is his worde is in vertue And after dauid saith Thorow the worde of god the heuens were fourmed in the spirite of his mouth is all the vertue of them And I pray you syr vnderstonde ye well how Dauid saith that in the spirite of the mouth of the lorde is all the vertue of angells and of men And the clerke said to me Thou woldest make vs to fonde with the. Saye we not the the gospell is are writen in the masse boke And I sayde Syr though men vse to saye thus yet it is vnperfyte speche For the principall parte off a thinge is properlye the hooll thynge· For lo mannes soule that may not now be sene here nor touched with ony sensible thing is properly man And all the vertue of a tree is in the roote thereof that maye not be sene for do awaye the roote and the tree is destroyed And syr as ye sayde to me right nowe god and hys worde are of one authorite and syr seynte Ierome witnesseth that Christe very god and very man is hidde in the letter of his lawe thus also syr the gospell is hidde in the letter For sir as it is full likely many diuerse men and women here in the erthe touched Christe and sawe hym and knewe his bodely persone whiche nother touched nor sawe nor knewe gostely his god hede right thus sir many men now touche and see and write and rede the scriptures of goddis lawe whiche nother touche see nor rede effecctuallye the gospell For as the godhede of Christe that is the vertue of god is knowen by the vertue thorow belefe so is the gospell that is Christes worde And a clerke said to me Thes be full mystie maters and vnsauery that thou shewest here to vs. And I said Sir if ye that ar masters know not playnly this sentence ye may sore drede that the kingdome of heuene be taken fro you as it was fro the princes of priestes fro the elders of the iewes And than a clercke as I gesse Malueren sayde to me Thou knowest not thyne equiuocacyons for the kyngdome of heuene hathe diuerse vnderstondinges What callest thou the kingdome of heuene in this sentence that thou shewest here And I said Sir by good reason sentence of doctours y● realme of heuene is called here the vnderstonding of gods worde And a clerke said to me Frome whō thinkest thou that this vnderstondinge is taken awaye And I said Sir by authorite of Christe him selfe the effectuall vnderstondinge of Christes worde is taken awaye from all them chefely whiche are greate lettered men and presume to vnderstonde hyghe thynges and will be holden wise men and desyre mastershippe and hye stare and dignite but they will not conforme them to the lyuyng teaching of Christe and off his apostles Thā the Archebishop said Well well thou wilt iudge thy souereyns By god the kyng doeth not

clerkis of your realme if it he trewthe that it myght be confermyd I to be holden for a trew christen man if it be false that it myght be dampned I tauchte a better beleue by goddis lawe and I will gladly obey therto This forsaid beleue the lorde Cobham wrote tooke it with hym offered it to the kyng for to see the kyng wolde not receiue it but bad hym take it to them that sholde be his iudges And than the lorde of Cobham offered to brynge before the kyng to purge hym of all errour ād heresy that they wolde put ageinst hym an hūdred knyghtes squteres And also he offered to fighte with ony mā christen or hethen that wold say that he wer false in his beleue except the kyng and his brethren And after he said he wold submit hym to all maner correcciō that any mā wold correcte hym after goddis law And not withstanding all this the kyng suffered hym to be somoned personally in his owne chāber And the lorde of Cobham said to the kyng that he hadde appeled to the pope fro the Archebisshop wherfore he said he ought not to take him for his iudge so he hadde there his appele redy written shewid it to the kyng therwith the kynge was more angry said He sholde not pursue his apele but rather he sholde be ī warde till his appele wer admitted ād than wolde he or not he sholde be his iudge And thus nothing of all this myght be alowed but because he wolde not sweare to submit hym to the chirche take what penaūce the Archebisshop wold inioyne hym he was arested sent to the towre of London to keape his day that the bisshop assigned hym in the kynges chamber And than he made the beleue afore said with the answeres to foure poyntes that now folow to be written in two partes of an endenture And whan he came to answer he gaue that one parte to the bisshope ād that other parte he kept to hymself ¶ The endenture of the lorde Cobham I Iohn̄ Olde castell knyght lorde of Cobham will that all christē men were how that Thomas of Arundell Archebisshop of Cāterbury hath now leyde maliciously vntreuly by his letter his seale written of me in sclaunderous wyse that I sholde otherwyse feale and teache of the sacramētis of holy chirche assyning in speciall the sacrament of the altare the sacramēt of penaūce also in worshipping of ymagis in goyng on pilgrimagis otherwyse than fealeth and teacheth the vniuersall holy chirche I take almightie god to witnes that it hath ben now is euer with the helpe of god shall be myne entēt my will to beleue feithfully ād treuly in all the sacramētis that euer god ordened to be done in holy chirche And more ouer for to declare me in thes poyntes a foresaid I beleue that the moste worshipfull sacramēt of the altare is very Christes body in fourme of breade the same body that was borne of the blessed virgin our lady seynt Marie done on the crosse dede buried ād the thirde day rose fro dethe to lyfe the which body is now glorified in heuē Also as for the sacramēt of penaūce I beleue that it is nedefull to eueri mā that shall be sauyd to forsake synne and to doo dew penaūce for synne before done with trewe cōfessiō very cōtriciō dew satisfacciō as goddis law limeteth teacheth els may he not be sauyd which penaunce I desyre all men to doo And as for ymagis I vnderstonde that they be not of belefe but they wer ordened syns beleue was geuyn of Christe by sufferaunce of the chirche for to be kalenderis to lay men to represente bring to mynde the passion of our lorde Iesu Christe and martirdome good lyuyng of other sayntes And that who so it be that doeth the worship to deede ymages that is dewe to god or puttith hope feyth or truste in helpe of them as he sholde doo to god or hathe affecciō in one more than in a nother he doeth in that the greate synne of ydolatrie Also I suppose this fully that euery man in this erthe is a pilgreme toward blesse or toward peyne And that he that knowith not nor will not knowe nor kepe the holy commaundementis of god in his liuyng here all be it that he go on pilgrimage into all the worlde and he dye so he shall be dampned And he that knoweth the holy commaundemētis of god and kepith them to his ende he shall be sauyd though he neuer in his lyfe go on pilgrimage as men vse now to Canterbury or to Rome or to ony other place This beleue indented conteinyng the forsaid beleue with thes forsaid answeres he tooke to the bisshops whan he cam to answer on the saturday next befor Michelmesse in the yeare aforesayd And what so euer the bisshopes asked him he badde them looke what his bill said therto and therby wolde he stande to the dethe other answer gaue he not that day but the bisshopes wer not quietyd herewith And the Archebisshop badde hym take auysement till moneday next folowing to answer to this poynte Yf there remained materiall brede in the sacramēt of of the altare after the wordis of consecracion And in the meane tyme he perceiuyd that the vttermoste malice was purposed ageinst hī how so euer he answered therfore he putt his lyfe in goddis hande and answered thus as folowith This is the iudgement and sentence geuyn vpon sir Iohn Old castell knyght and lorde of Cobham the moneday next before michelmesse day at the friers prechers in London in the yeare of our lorde a thousand foure hundred and thirtene the Archebisshop of Canterbery the bisshop of London the bisshop of winchester the bisshop of Bangar Master Iohn̄ witnā Master Iohn̄ whytehede doctours of diuinite Master Philip Morgan Master henry ware Master Iohn̄ kempe doctours of lawe And sir Robert wambnell vicare of seynt Laurence in the iewrie Master Iohn̄ Steuenes Master Iames Colenotaries with the foure orders of friers and many other clerkis demyng and cōuicting hym for an heretike and a cursed man The Archebisshop made all thes clerkys and doctours both religious and seculers to swere vpon a booke that they sholde not for loue or fauour of the one partie nor for any enuy or hatrede of the other partie say nor witnesse but the truthe And the two forsaid notaries wer sworē also to write to witnesse the wordis processe y● wer to be said on bothe the parties and to say the sothe if hit otherwyse wer After this the lorde of Cobhā came ād was broughte before them all to his examinacion to his answer Than the Archebisshop said to hym Lorde of Cobham ye ben auysed well ynoughe of the wordis and processe that wer said to you vpon saturday laste paste in the chapter house of Paulis the

The examinacion of Master William Thorpe preste accused of heresye before Thomas Arundell Archebishop of Cāturbury the yere of ower Lorde M. CCCC and seuen ¶ The examinacion of the honorable knight sye Ihon̄ Oldcastell Lorde Cobham burnt bi the said Archebisshop in the fyrste yere of Kynge Henry the fyfth ¶ Benomore ashamed to heare it then ye were and be to do it ¶ Vnto the Christen Reader GRace and peace in oure lorde Iesu Christe Reade here with iudgemente goode reader the examinacion of the blssed man of god and there thou shalt caselye perceyue wherfore oure holy chirch a● the most on holy sorte of all the people wil be called make all their examinaciōs in darkenes all the laye people cleane excluded from their councels For yf their lies had ben openly confuted and also that the accused of heresye myghte as well haue ben admytted to reason their articles with councell whether they were heresye or no as the accused of treason agenst the king is admytted to his councell to confute his cause and articles whether they be treason or not they shulde neuer haue murthered nor prisoned so many good christen men as they haue done For their cloked lyes coulde neuer haue contynued so long in the lighte as they haue done in corners They good men when they come in the pulpet and preache agenst the treuth crye Yf their lernynge were goode and trew they wold neuer go in corners but speke it openly Where vnto I answere that besyde that Christe and his apostles were compelled for because of the furyousnes of their fathers the bishoppes and preastes whiche onely that tyme also wolde be called holy chyrche often tymes for to walke secretly and absent them self and geue place to their malice yet we haue daylye examples off more then one or two that haue not spared nor feared for to speake and also preache opnlye the trouthe whiche haue ben taken of them prysoned and brent besyde other that for feare of deathe haue abiured and caryed fagottes Of whos articles and examinacion there ys no leye man that can shewe a worde Who can tell wherfore not many yeres paste there were seuen burnt in conuentrye on one daye Who can tell wherfore that good preaste and holye martyr Syr Thomas hitton was brente now thys yere at maydstone yn Kent I am sure no man For this is their caste euer when they haue put to deathe or punyshed any man after their secrete examynacyon to slaunder hym of soche thynges as he neuer thought As they maye do well Inough seynge there is no man to contrarye them Wherfore I exhorte the good brother who soeuer thou be that redest thys treatyse marke hit well and consyder it seryouslye and there thou shalt fynde not onelye what the chyrche ys they re doctryne of the Sacramente the worshyppynge off ymagyes pylgremage confessyon Swerynge and payinge of tythes But also thou mayst se what stronge and substancyall argumentes off scripture and doctoures and what clerkely reasons my lorde the hedde and prymate of the holye chyrche in England as he wil be taken bryngeth agenst this pore folysh symple and madde losell knave heretike as he calleth hym And also the verye cause wherfore all their examynacions are made in darkenes And the lorde of all lyght shall lighten the with the candle of his grace for to se the trewth Amen ¶ This I haue corrected and put forth in the english that now is vsed in Englāde for owe● sothern men nothynge therto addynge ne yet ther from mynysshyng And I entende hereafter with the helpe of God to put it forthe in his owne olde english which shal well serue I doute not bothe for the northern men ād the faythfull brothern of scotlāde THe Lorde god that knoweth all thinges worteth well that I am right sorrowfull for to write or to make knowen this sentēce beneth written where that of myne even christē sette in hie state and dignite so gret blyndnes ād malice maye be knowē that they that presume of them selfe to distroye vices and to plante in men vertues nother drede to offēde god nor luste to please him as their warkes show For certes the biddinge of god his lawe whiche in the praysynge of his most holy name he commaundeth to be knowen and kepte of all men and women younge and olde ▪ after the cōnynge and power that he hath gyuen to them the prelates of this lande and their mynisters with the comente of prestys chefely consentyng to them enforce them moste besyly to withstonde and destroye the holy ordinaunce of god And there thorowe god is greatly wrothe and moeuyd to take harde vengeaunce not onely vpon them that doo the evyll but also on thē all that consent to these Antichristys lymnes Which knowe or might knowe their malyce ād their falshode and dresse them not to withstond their malice and their greate pryde Neuerthelesse fower thinges moueth me to writeth is sentence beneth The fyrst thinge that moeueth me hereto is this that wher as it was knowē to certeyn frendes that I came frō the preson of Shrewisbury and as it befell in dede that I shulde to the preson of Canterbury than diuerse frendes in diuerse places spake to me full hartefully and full tenderly and commaunded me thē yf it so were that I sholde be examined before the Archebishope of Canterbury that if I mygh●e in ony wise I sholde writte myne apposinge and myne answeringe And I promysed to my speciall frendes that yf I might I wolde gladly do their biddinges as I might The .ij. thing that moueth me to write this sentence is thys diuerse frendes which haue herde that I haue ben examined before the Archebisshop haue comen to me in prison and councelled me besely and coueted greatly that I shulde do the same thynge And other brethrē haue sent to me required me on goddes behalf that I shold write out make knowē both myne apposing myne answerīg for the profet that as they saye ouer my knowlegīg may come therof But this they badde me that I shold be besye in all my wittes to go as nere the sentēce the wordes as I coulde both that were spokē to me ād that I spake Vp auēture this writing came a nother tyme before the Archebishope his counsell And of this coūselling I was right glad for in my cōsciēce I was moued to do this thing to aske hereto the speciall helpe of god And so thā I considering the great desyre of diuerse frēdes of sondry places according all in one I occupied all my mynde my writtes so besyly that thorow goddes grace I perceyued by their meyning their charitable desyre some profete might come ther throwe For sothe fastenesse trouth hath these cōdiciōs Where euer it is impugned yt hath a swete smell thereof comes a swete savoure And the more violently the enemyes dresse thē self to oppresse to withstond the truthe the greater the

specially or for any other cause be at distaunce to be knette and made one in true feith in stedfaste hope and in perfite charite Amen ¶ Thus endeth the examynacion of Master Wyllyam Thorpe And here after foloweth hys testamente MAthew an apostle of Christe is gospeler witnessith truly in the holy gospell the moste holy lyuynge and the moste holsome teaching of christe He rehersith how that Christe likeneth them that heare his wordis and kepe them to a wyse man that bildeth his house vpon a stone that is a stable ād a sadde grounde This house is mannis soule in whome Christe deliteth to dwell if it be grounded that is stablisshed feithfully in his lyuyng and in his trewe teaching adourned or made fayre with diuerse vertues which Christe vsed ād taucht without ony medlyng of ony errour as ar chefely the condicions of charite This forsaid stone is Christe vpon which euery feithfull soule must be bylded syns vpon none other grounde than vpon Christis lyuyng and his teaching no body may make eny byldyng or housyng where in Christe will come dwell This sentence witnesseth seynt Paul to the corinthians shewing to them that no body may sett ony other groūde than is sett that is Christis lyuyng his teaching And because that all men women sholde gyue all their besynesse here in this lyfe to bylde them vertuously vpon this sure foundacion seynt Paul knouleging the feruent desyre and the goode will of the people of Ephesy wrote to them cōfortably sayng Now ye ar not straungeris gestis nor yet comelingis but ye ar the citezyns and of the housholde of god byldyd aboue vpon the foundament of the apostles and prophetis In which foundamēt euery byldyng that is byldyd or made thorow the grace of god it encreaseth or growith into an holy temple ▪ that is euery body that is groūded or bylded feithfully in the teaching and lyuyng of Christe is there thorow made the holy temple of god This is the stable grounde and stedfaste stone Christe which is the sure corner stone faste ioynyng and holdyng myghtely to gither two wallis For thorow Christe Iesu meane or middill persone of the trinite the father of heuen is pituous or mercifully ioynyd and made one to gither to mankynde And thorow dreade to offende god ād feruent looue to please hym men be vnseparably made one to god and defended surely vnder his proteccion Also this forsaid stone Christe was figured by the square stones of which the tēple of god was made For as a square stone wher so euer it is caste or layde it abydeth lieth stabely so Christe and euery feithfull mēbre of his chirche by example of hym abydeth and dwellith stabely in true faithe and in all other heuenly vertues in all aduersites that they suffer in this valley of tearis For lo whan thes forsaid square stones wer hewen and wroughte for to be layde in the wallis or pillers of goddis tēple none noyse or stroke of the worke men was harde Certein this silence in workyng of this stone figureth Christe chefely and his feithfull mēbres which by example of hym haue ben and yet ar euer to the worldis ende shall be so meke and paci●t in euery aduersite that no sounde nor yet ony grudging shall ony tyme be perceiued in them Neuerthelesse this chefe and most worshipfull corner stone whiche onely is grounde of all vertues proude beggers repreuyd but this despite and reprefe Christe sufferid moste mekely in his owne person for to gyue exāple of all mekenesse and pacience to all his feithfull folowers Certeyn this worlde is now so full of proude beggers which ar namyd priestis but the very office of workyng of priesthode which Christe approuyth trewe ād acceptith is farre fro the multitude of priestis that now reigne in this worlde For fro the hyest prieste to the lowest all as who say studie that is they ymagine and trauell besely how they may please this worlde ād their flessch This sentence ād many soch other dependeth vpon them if it be well considered other god the father of heuen hath deceiuyd all mankynde by the liuyng specially teaching of Iesu Christe by the liuyng teaching of his apostles prophetis or els all the popys that haue ben syns I hadde ony knowlege or discretion with all the college of Cardinallis Archebishopis bisshopis Monkys chanons friers with all the contagious flocke of the comunaltie of priesthode whych haue all my lyfe tyme ād mekell lenger reigned yet reigne ād encrease dampnably fro synne into synne haue bene ād yet be proude obstinate heretikes couetous symoners defoulyd aduulterers in the ministrīg of the sacramentis specially yn ministryng of the sacrament of the altare For as their workys shewe whereto Christe biddeth vs take hede the hyest priestis and prelatis of this priesthode chalenge and occupie vnlefully temporall lordeshippes And for temporall fauour and mede they sell and gyue benefices to vnworthy ād vnable persones yethes symoners sell synne sufferyng men womē in euery degre ād estate to lye cōtinew fro yeare to yeare in diuerse vices sclaūderously And thus by euill exāple of hye priestis in the chirche lower priestis vnder them or not onely suffered but they ar maynteined to sell full dere to the people for tēporall mede all the sacramētis And thus all this forsaid priesthode is blowen so hye ād borne vp in pride vayn glorie of their estate dignite so blindid with worldly couetousnesse that they disdeyne to folow Christe in very mekenesse ād wilfull pouerte lyuyng holily ād preaching goddis worde treuly frely cōtineually takyng their lyuelode at the fre will of the people of their pure almose where and whan they suffyse not for their trewe besy preaching to gett their sustenaūce with their hādis To this trew sentēce grounded on Christis owne liuyng teaching of his apostles thes for said worldly fleschly priestis will not consente effectually But as their werkys ād also their wordis shewe boldeli vnshamefastly thes for said named priestis prelatis couett enforse thē mightely besely y● all holy scripture were expoūdid drawne accordingly to their maners ād to their vngroūdid vsagis fyndyngis For they will not syns they holde it but foly madnesse comforme their maners to the pure and symple liuyng of Christe and his apostles nor they will not folow frely their learnyng Wherfore all the emperours and kynges ād all other lordis and ladies and all the comon people in euery degre and state which haue before tyme knowen or myght haue knowen ād also all they that now yet knowe or myght knowe this forsaid witnesse of priesthode and wolde not nor yet will enforce them after their connyng and power to withstonde charitably the forsaid enemyes and traitours of Christe ād of his chirche all thes stryue with Antechriste ageinst Iesu And they shall

which processe wer now to long to reherse Than I proffered to haue assoiled you for ye wer acursed of your contumacy and disobediēce to holy chirche Than said the lorde Cobham forthe with God saith Maledicā benedictionibus vestris that is to say I shall curse your blessinges Than said the Archebisshop Sir than I peroffered to haue assoiled you if ye wold haue asked it and yet I doo the same Than said the lorde of Cobham Nay forso the I trespased neuer ageinst you and therfore will I not doo it And with that he kneled downe on the pauement and helde vp his handis said I shryue me to god and to you all sirs that in my youthe I haue synnyd greatly and greuously in lecherie and in pride and hurte many men done many other horrible synnes good lord I crie the mercie And therwith wepingly he stoode vp ageyn and said Here for the brekyng of goddis lawe and his commaundementis ye cursed me not But for your owne lawes and tradiciōs aboue goddis law ād therfore it shall be destroied Than the Archebisshop examined the lorde of his beleue And the lorde of Cobhā said I beleue fully in all goddis law I beleue that it is all trewe and I beleue all that god will that I beleue Than the Archebisshop examined hym of the sacramente of the altare how he beleuyd therein The lorde of Cobhā said Christe vpon shere thursday at nyght sitting with his disciples at the supper after that he hadde supped he tooke breade geuyng thankis to the fader he blessed it and brake it gaue it to his disciples saiyng take eate ye of this all this is my body that shall be betraied for you doo you this in the remembraunce of me This beleue I said he Than the Archebisshop asked hym if it wer breade after the consecracion and the sacramētall wordes said The lorde of Cobham said I beleue that the sacrament of the altare is very Christes body in fourme of breade the same body the was borne of the virgin Mary done on the crosse dede and buried and the thirde day rose fro dethe to lyfe which body is now glorified in heuen Thā said one of the doctours of law After the sacramētall wordes said ther remaineth no brede but the body of Christe Than the lorde of Cobham said to one Master Iohn̄ whitehede You said to me in the castell of Cowling that the ooste sacred was not Christes body But I said yt was Christes body though seculers friers holde eche one agenst other in this opinion Than said they We say all that it is goddis body And they askyd hym whether it wer materiall breade after the consecracion Than said the lorde I beleue that it is Christes body in fourme of breade Sir beleue ye not thus And the Archcbisshop said Ye Than the doctours askyd hym whether it wer onely Christes body after the consecracion and no breade And he said to them Yt is Christes body breade for right as Christe was here in māhode and the godhede hidde in the manhode so I beleue verely that Christes flesche and his blode is hidde there in the fourme of breade Than they smylde eche one on other demyng hym takyn in heresy and said it is an heresy The Archebisshop asked hym what breade it was and the clerkis also whether it wer materiall or not Than the lorde said the gospell spekith not of this terme materiall ād therfore I will not but I say it is Christes body and breade For the gospell saith Ego sum panis viuus qui de celo descendi th̄at is to say I am quicke breade that came downe frome heuen For as oure lorde Iesu Christe is very god and very man so the most blessed sacrament of the altare is Christes body and breade Than thei said it is an heresy to say that it is brede after the consecracion the sacramentall wordes said but onely Christes body The lorde said Seynt Paul the apostle was as wise as ye bē he called it breade wher he saith thus The breade that we breake is it not the partetaking of the body of the lorde Than they saide Paule muste be other wyse vnderstanded for it is an heresy to say that it is breade after the consecracion but onely christes body for it is ageynst the determinacion of the chirche Than they asked hī whether he beleued not in the determinacion of the churche And he said to thē No forsothe but I beleue all goddes lawe and all that god will that I beleue but not in youre lawe nor in youre determinacion for ye be no parte of holy churche as openly your dedis shewe but very Antichristes contrary to gods law For ye haue made lawes for youre couetousnes This they said was heresy not for to beleue in the determinacion of the chirche Than the Archebishop asked him what was holy churche He said I beleue that holy chirch is the number of all thē that shall be saued of whom Christ is hed of that which chirch one parte is in heuē an other in purgatorye the thirde here in erthe This parte here standeth in thre degrees estates priestehode knighthode and the comunalte as I sayde playnly in my beleue Than the arbtshop said to hī Wote you who is of this chirche it is doute to you who is thereof ye sholde not iudge The lorde said Operibus credite iustū iudiciū iudicate that is to say Beleue ye the workes iudge ye rightfull iugement And also he saide to them all Where fynde ye by gods lawe that ye sholde sit thus vpon any man or ony mannis death as ye do but Anna Cayphas sat iudged Christe and so do you Thā said they Yes sir Christ iudged Iudas The lord of Cobham said No. Christ iudged not Iudas but he iudged himself went hāged himself but Christe saide Wo to him as he dothe to many of you For syns the venyme was shed in to the chirche ye folowed neuer Christ nor ye stode neuer in perfection of goddes lawe Than the Archebishop asked him what was that venyme The lorde said The lordshippes and possessyons For than cried an angell wo wo wo this day is venyme shed into the chirch of god for before that tyme ther wer many martirs of popis and syns I cā tell of none but sothe it is syns that tyme one hath put downe a nother one hath slayne a nother ād one hath cursed a nother as the cronicles tell also of moch more cursednesse Also he said Christ was meke the pope is proude Christ was pore forgaue the pope is riche a māslear as it is opēly proued And thus this is the neste of Antichriste out of this neste cometh Antichristes disciples of whome these monkes friers ben the taile Thā said the priour of the frier Austines Sir why saye ye so And the lorde of Cobham said for as ye bē