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A94076 Strong motives, or Loving and modest advice, vnto the petitioners for presbiterian government. That they endeavour not the compulsion of any in matters of religion, more then they wish others should endeavour to compell them. But with all love, lenitie, meekenesse, patience, & long-suffering to doe unto others, as they desire others should doe unto them. Whereunto is annexed the conclusion of Lieuten. Generall Cromwells letter to the House of Common tending to the same purpose. Cromwell, Oliver, 1599-1658. 1645 (1645) Wing S6016; Thomason E304_15; ESTC R200308 6,240 8

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affectation of speech and holy tearmes sophistically framed whorishly painted and artificially composed and you are causlesly affrighted with old Popish exclamations against Heresie Schisme Scandall Strange Sects Horrid blasphemous opinions Separated Assemblies illiterate Pastors boldnesse insolencie contempt of all Authority Seditious persons disturbance of the Citie unnaturall flames of division especially about Church Government in the same Kingdome betweene people and people Minister and Minister Pastor and Flocke Master and Servants Parents and Children Husbands and wives differences in opinion breeding alienation in affection It is wonderfull that in our great and victorious Army differences in opinion should have no such evill effect but the contrary as witnesseth that worthy and religious commander Lieutenant Generall Cromwell Master John Rushford in his Relation to master Speaker about taking of Bristoll certainly the reason is from the wisedome of his Excellency our most worthy and prosperous Generall in making no distinction of his Officers or Souldiers but as they are vertuous or vicious performe or neglect their dutys That true Christian love is more regarded universally in that army then any formes of worship or Church Government at all Love is the life and soule of Religion and the true mother of all unity and peace Well but I pray you observe what other mischeifes are collected to animate you to make your Petition for your present establishing of Church Government Why here lyeth the weight of all this agravation the reason of all the other exclamations and the true cause of the haste Faithfull Ministers are despised and discouraged in their Ministry Hopefull plants disheartned and terrified from the ministry Publique Assemblyes are forsaken the pretended Preachers of new Gospels cryed up Universall toleration of all opinions pleaded for beleeve it here 's matter enough indeed for if there be once graunted a freedome of speech an opening of the Presses and toleration of all Opinions and immediatly downe goeth the glory of the Clergy They will easily be proved to be no other then other men if so good their impofition of hands will not hold up their honour in the least Jure Divino is already dasht and there remaines no hope of recovery Downe also falleth their domination for why should those Clergie men who are in no more relation to God then other men but meere errable men like others assume unto themselves a power of judging and censuring of opinions doctrines and practises in matters of Religion And then also downe falls their profit for no man will henceforth thinke himselfe bound by any law of God to pay tithes any longer now under the Gospel as of old was due to Gods faithfull Ministers under the Law and so they will stand only as publique men appointed by the State to an Office of teaching and instructing the people and performing other businesse as the Parliament shall thinke meet who also may appoint to every one a compe●ent stipend sutable to his charge and carriage then it may be they will both live quietly and let others live quietly too and so the whole Nation will have rest from this intollerable oppression of a compulsive Church Government and the Parliament be freed from a continuall trouble and importunate diversion from their more important affaires But this doubtlesse would follow that the learned Clergy know better them you doe and they had rather you should know any thing then those things for you must observe that selfe deny all is more often preach't then practised by them Why doe you thinke they are such enemies to the Independents and all sorte of the Separation You imagine it is because they run into errors and damanale opinions to their soules destruction No no such thing it is only because the true Independents and separation doe all the very Pastors offices themselves renounce and disclaime all Glory in distinction from the greatest to the meanest of their Flocke and all usurped domination being but as any other men in judging of Doctrines or practices and but as the mouth or speaker of the Congregation Also they renounce all right or claime to any pay and if they want not their judgement is that they ought rather to give then to receive the difference is visible enough You may perceive your Clergie doe stand for Glory Domination Profit Our faithfull Officers doe renounce them all both in name and in deed And thus you see the cause of that masse of Clamour and exclamation and reproach which they heaped together for you in your Petition to blind your eyes wherein they prevailed to much upon your zeale to the great prejudice of your judgements for it will hardly be credited that such an understanding people as you are should be induced to petition for the establishment of any Modell of Government which you had never secne nor examined according to the word of God And was it not as improper to urge the victory at Nazeby the quick recovery of Liecester the reliefe of Taunton the Surrender of Bridgewater Shurburne Bristoll as an Argument to hasten that Government which must necessarily hasten the thraldome of most of those worthy Commanders and Souldiers whom God was pleased to honour with so many both unexpected and undeserved blessings The same hands have beene since laden with more benefits of the samr nature if that would any thing availe with you You once knew an Armie or two that hated nothing so much as Tub preachers as you too much have delighted to heare worthy men so reproached and all such Round-heads were wearied out you know also what followed certainly God and you have judged differently of that sort of people But you are to be pitied herein as being not wholly your selves in this cause you have too much relyed upon some whose pride and domination must either fall or Gods glory and the good of the Common-wealth but if you persist in such fruitlesse businesse after this timely advice your sinne will be little lesse then that of wilfullnesse In mercy therefore to your selves and tender compassion to your yet too much dispised brethren of the Separation labour by sound consideration to amend your judgements and by some proper worke of love make some amends for this your hard and unwarrantable intention against them and whilst you live love the Parliament that stopt you in your too hasty and inconsiderate pursuite thereof Little doe you imagine the benefits that would accrew to the whole Nation by generall liberty how is it possible you should judge cleerly of a thing you dare not thinke of nothing so much distracts the understanding as feare doth chiefly of your unlimitable preheminence and intolerable maintenance There is nothing more certaine then that the State shall thence receive it's greatest safty Provided it make good and pertinent Lawes against all Treason Treachery Vice and corruption of manners and withall appoint good Officers for execution of those Lawes if all peaceable people were countenanced alike by Authority and all reproach