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A14105 A matter of moment: or, A case of waight As great as euer was any, to be pleaded and examined in the hall of the heart and conscience of euery Christian at all times, before the receiuing of the Lords Supper. Touching that waightie charge of the Apostle Paul, in the I. Cor. II.28. Let euery man examine himselfe, and so let him eate of this bread and drinke of this cup. Set forth dialogue wise. Tye, William. 1608 (1608) STC 24414; ESTC S101785 23,867 76

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third reason is set downe by the Apostle himselfe in that 1. Cor. 11 and it is drawne from the indignitie or heynousnesse of offence in the vnworthy eating and drinking the Lords supper in this manner That party that eateth and drinketh the Lords supper vnworthily that is otherwise then it becommeth such a supper to be eaten and drunk peruerting the right and pure vse thereof that party is guilty of the body and bloud of the Lord euen as if he should vilely contemne the same and trample it vnder his féete Therefore it behoueth euery one and euerie one is bound of necessitie to examine himselfe afore hand how he is fitted to eate and drink the Lords supper A fourth reason is drawne from the fearefull punishment and woe The fourth Reason which most assuredly they doe pull vpon themselues who doe eate and drinke the Lords supper vnworthily in this manner whosoeuer eateth and drinketh the Lordes supper vnworthily that partie eateth and drinketh his owne damnation as our first parents in paradise did eate their owne death by eating the forbidden fruit Therefore vpon paine of damnation euerie one is bound of necessitie to examine himselfe how hee is prepared to eate and drink the same If you would haue a fift reason it holdeth very strongly frō the lesser to the greater thus The fift Reason If in their earthly affaires and busines men doe thinke themselues bound of necessity before hand to examine and make inquirie as well into the affaires of themselues what and of what condition they be as into their owne selues how they may finde themselues able fit and méete to accomplish the same lest they should take them in hand vnwisely in vaine or with their losse and hurt then who will not much more thinke themselues bound of necessitie to make the same examination and inquiry in spirituall affaires but especially in this so heauenly businesse the eating and drinking of the Lords Supper wherein we cannot offend without the high displeasure dishonour of our God Wherein we cannot offend without the deserued daunger of eternal condemnation and wherin if we consider the meate drinke it selfe with other common meates and drinkes there may no comparison stand betwéen thē in any respect at all Iohn 6.55 My flesh is meat indeed my bloud is drink indeed saith our Sauiour Christ For other meates and drinkes are earthly corporall but this is heauenly and spirituall Other meate and drinke whether wée eate and drinke or not we shal surely die but this meate and drinke hée only doth die which doth not receiue and he doth liue for euer which doth receiue it Other meate and drinke doth asswage hunger and thirst but this meate and drinke I meane still being spiritually and by Faith truely receiued doth more and more sharpen the same bréeding in vs an insatiable desire and longing after them Other meate and drinke are conuerted into the substance of the eatet and drinker but this Not the elements of bread and wine abiding still the same without corruptiō doth cōuert the true religious eaters drinkers thereof into it selfe making thē of humane diuine of carnal spiritual of vngodly minded to leade a life beséeming God Iohn 6.56 For he that eateth my flesh and drinketh my blood saith our Sauiour hee dwelleth in mee as a member incorporated into the body and braunch into the vine And I in him namely by my spirit whereby he doth liue Other meate and drinke before they be receiued are first to bee examined tried and proued lest by any euill condition in them they hurt vs. But before we presume to participate of this meate and drinke in the Lords supper we must first examine try and proue our selues lest we dishonour them and become hurtfull to our selues through our owne fault Obiect I would to God your reasons were knowne not vnto mee alone here by priuate conference but vnto the whol world also by publike writing For I think they are of force not onely to wrest from the most vntoward and crooked spirit that is a free confession that it is so but also to force out of the hart of flint a floud of teares to bewaile euery former neglect thereof and further to driue it euer heereafter diligently and carefully to put the same in practise and neuer in any case to omit this godly wise and carefull examination of ones selfe before the receiuing of the Lords Supper But good Sir from your present speech nowe mee thinkes doe arise two doubtes more wherein I pray you satisfie mee in a word An. I pray you say on Obiect Is then the examination of others by the Minister before the receiuing of the Lords Supper forbidden or needelesse Ans It is more then plaine by the holy scriptures that examination by the Minister of those committed to his charge where néede shall be Gen. 18. Iosh 24. Ministers fathers and housholders ought to examine their parishioners children seruants by the father of his children by the Master of his seruants is not onely not forbidden but straightly commanded and highly commended howsoeuer alas it bee too carelesly put in practise of such as one day wil tremble and quake to come to their answere for it And so much the more commended if it be done with that care and conscience that it ought namely not for auricular confession and then all is well as the Papists dreame or for custome and shew but for to proue how they knowe their dutie therein to teach them if they know it not yea and not euen then to thrust it into their mouthes when they are to receiue the Supper but in such due season as they may be sure to bee perfect in it Vnto the which examination as euery Minister father and master is bound so likewise is euery parishioner childe seruant reuerendly willingly to submit themselues therevnto before they come vnto the Lordes Table But yet notwithstanding this examination by an other cannot secure neither is any safe warrant for any man for one man may deceiue an other the examined may deceiue the examiner in most points but no man can deceiue the iudgment of his own cōscience Though the former examinatiō of one man by another be néedfull necessary cōmanded commended though one be examined by an other a thousand times yet the examination of ones self is in no wise to be omitted but carefully to bee held fast because it is most certain cannot deceiue and therfore the Apostle saith rather Let a man examine himself in an other place 2. Cor. 13. Examin your selues know ye not your own selues Ob. You haue fully satisfied me herein also But this one question more Is it not required that one do examine and inquire into those with whom he is to communicate that he do find them worthily prepared before hee can safely communicate with them An. Hereto I answer you Some
Lordes Supper worthily who doth not know what is required to the worthy eating drinking of the Lordes Supper when our Sauiour said vnto the Saduces Matt. 22. Yee doe erre not knowing the Scriptures Did he not say plainely that the want of knowledge was the cause of their erring being deceiued and dealing awry When the Prophet Dauid said Psal 119. Thy word is a Lanterne vnto my feete and a light vnto my pathes did hée not clearely teach that the knowledge of the word of God must direct our actions and procéedings and that without the same knowledge we walke in darkenes wee know not what we doe nor whether we goe I thinke this is so plaine that it néedes no further disputing Ob. Why must a plaine simple man that can neuer a letter vppon the booke come furnished with this knowledge before hee can eate and drinke the Lords Supper what if such a one should come to you and say The scriptures are too busie for my head I know how to earne my liuing with the sweat of my browes honestly truely I trust I know as the rest of my neighbours know I hope they meane well they meane no hurt at their comming to the Lordes Table nor no more doe I or such like speeches would not this be sufficient for him Answ I knowe no difference the scriptures make in this respect betwéene the learned and vnlearned betwéene the simplest and the wisest of all neither yet any dispensation the one hath more then the other but this I know Ignorance is no excuse that ignorance is no excuse for any by these our Sauiours owne wordes Luke 12. But that seruant that knew not his Maisters will and yet did commit thinges worthy of stripes shall bee beaten with fewe stripes This I know that none can pleade ignorance for the Lord God speaketh generally vnto all by his seruant Moses Deut 3● The word which I cōmand thee this day is not hid from thee neither is far of It is not in heauen that thou needest to say Who shall ascend for vs into heauē to fetch it vnto vs and to declare it vnto vs that wee may doe it neither is it beyond the sea that thou needest to say who shall go ouer the sea to bring it and to declare it vnto vs that we may doe it but this word is very neare thee euen in thy mouth and in thine heart to do it This I know Iosu 1. that all sortes of people ought to know the Scriptures This I knowe The Scriptures are easie to the simplest obseruing three things that the Scriptures are easie vnto the plaine and most simple people that are obseruing but thrée conditions The first if by zealous prayer they shall call for the illumination of Gods spirit The second if they shall bestowe the like endeuour care and studie to know them that they doe and can vpō cunning fetches for their worldly profit whereof if a booke should be framed twise as large as the Bible it would soone be knowne euen of the simplest yea though he could neuer a letter on the booke as you say yet he would haue it at one hand or other and it would busie his head neuer a whit The third if they shall desire and labour to know the scriptures to the end to kéepe the will of the Lord reuealed in them they are King Dauids words The Law of the Lord giueth wisedome vnto the simple Psal 19. Pro. 14. Wise Solomon saith A scorner seeketh wisedome and findeth it not but knowledge is easie to him that will vnderstand And when Dauid would perswade the Lorde to teach him to knowe his will hee drawes the Lord as it were with this reason because he will kéepe his will when he knowes it Teach me O Lord the way of thy statutes I will keepe it vnto the end O giue me vnderstanding I will keepe thy law yea I will keepe it with my whole heart And to conclud this I knowe that the simplest and plainest man that is would bee ashamed to bee found vnskilfull and to be taken tardy in the profession that hee hath taken vppon him If his knowledge faile in the trade he was neuer bounde apprentice vnto if his knowledge faile in the Art of Logick Rhetorick or in the misterie of Astronomie or such like why in this he is not to bee blamed but if his knowledge faile in the points of Christianity whereunto he was bound apprentice in Baptisme which hee tooke vpon him to professe at the time of his Baptisme and wherin he hath serued so long apprētiship I thinke in this hee is worthy to be blamed I trow in this the simplest of vs all would take great shame to be found vnlearned and vnskilful If any intending to receiue the Lords Supper should come to mée with such answer as you say I know how to earne my liuing with the sweate of my browes c as indéede I thinke too to many hold it for the answere of a sound Christian surely I should bee driuen against my will to reply vppon him againe with these words If this bee all the knowledge that you haue and looke for then a bruit beast is for knowledge as good a Christian as you then a bruit beast may for his knowledge I speake it with reuerence bee admitted to the Communion as wel as you for a bruit beast knowes how to get his liuing with the sweat and labour of his body as well as you and no more doe you looke for Further I would reply againe from the Apostle Paul You would pretend a zeale and deuotion Rom. 10 but the zeale and deuotion of any whatsoeuer either to God or godlines is nothing worth if it bee not according vnto knowledge Zeale without knowledge is condemned If any man intend to goe to any place hee must keepe the way that leadeth vnto it if any man haue a zeale and deuotion to God and doe seeke God from the heart of necessitie hee must keepe the way that leadeth vnto him and that way is his word It is better sayth Saint Augustine to halt in the way then to runne swiftly out of the way If wee will bee deuout and religious let vs take it for truth which Lactantius saith That is true religion zeale deuotion which is ioyned with the word of God And therefore so many as come vnto the Supper of the Lord without the knowledge of this word to instruct and tell them what is here to bee done and how they ought to deale therein vndoubtedly they doe fare as they doe who are blindfolded and haue their eyes closed vp A man would wonder A most fitte similitude to meete in the high-way Tenne Twentie Thirty or Fortie people blindfolded grabling to some long iournies end Surely he would thinke them starke mad euer to take such a iourney in hand in that order and hee would iudge that they would