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collegiate_n of_o rheims_n to_o come_v in_o with_o their_o censure_n upon_o the_o apostle_n and_o to_o set_v down_o in_o plain_a term_n that_o all_o this_o proove_v not_o the_o matter_n in_o proper_a signification_n and_o that_o the_o apostle_n have_v omit_v the_o chief_a and_o proper_a proof_n thereof_o this_o be_v a_o blasphemy_n against_o christ_n and_o against_o the_o holy_a spirit_n of_o god_n by_o which_o the_o apostle_n in_o writing_n be_v direct_v but_o what_o can_v master_n rainolds_n say_v in_o excuse_n of_o this_o so_o manifest_a blasphemy_n 534._o pag._n 534._o he_o ask_v first_o where_o say_v we_o that_o of_o all_o those_o thing_n propose_v by_o the_o apostle_n it_o follow_v not_o that_o christ_n priesthood_n be_v eternal_a must_v you_o again_o be_v put_v in_o mind_n of_o your_o own_o annotation_n which_o yourself_o have_v at_o large_a rehearse_v have_v you_o not_o therein_o express_o in_o write_v publish_v all_o this_o proove_v not_o that_o in_o proper_a signification_n 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