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A90624 A vindication of The preacher sent, or A vvarrant for publick preaching without ordination. Wherein is further discovered. 1. That some gifted men unordained, are Gospel preachers. 2. That officers sustain not a relation (as officers) to the universal Church; and other weighty questions concerning election and ordination, are opened and cleared. In answer to two books. 1. Vindiciæ ministrij evangelici revindicatæ or the Preacher (pretendly) sent, sent back again. By Dr. Colling of Norwich. 2. Quo warranto, or a moderate enquiry into the warrantableness of the preaching of gifted and unordained persons. By Mr. Pool, at the desire and appointment of the Provincial Assembly of London. With a reply to the exceptions of Mr. Hudson and Dr. Collings against the epistle to the preacher sent. / Published by Frederick Woodal, minister of the Gospel at Woodbridge in Suffolk. Samuel Petto minister of the GospeI [sic] at Sandcraft in Suffolk. Woodall, Frederick, b. 1614.; Petto, Samuel, 1624?-1711. 1659 (1659) Wing P1902; Thomason E1728_2; ESTC R204138 152,808 253

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question_n it_o must_v have_v be_v ergo_fw-la office_n be_v a_o relation_n to_o the_o work_n and_o employment_n of_o the_o ministry_n as_o its_o correlate_n arg._n 2._o the_o correlate_n to_o any_o relation_n be_v that_o wherein_o the_o subject_n be_v termniate_v vincentio_n revi_fw-la but_o the_o office_n of_o the_o ministry_n be_v terminate_v pag._n 12._o in_o the_o work_n therefore_o the_o work_n be_v its_o correlate_n answ_n 1._o a_o illogicall_a argument_n in_o the_o major_a the_o subject_n of_o the_o relation_n be_v remember_v in_o the_o minor_a it_o be_v forget_v and_o the_o relation_n itself_o put_v in_o the_o place_n thereof_o if_o it_o be_v in_o form_n it_o must_v run_v thus_o the_o correlate_n to_o any_o relation_n be_v that_o wherein_o the_o subject_n be_v terminate_v but_o the_o subject_n of_o office_n relation_n be_v terminate_v in_o the_o work_n ergo_fw-la work_n be_v the_o correlate_n answ_n 2._o if_o his_o major_n be_v understand_v universal_o viz._n that_o the_o 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sense_n and_o the_o definition_n of_o the_o name_n be_v the_o definition_n of_o the_o thing_n the_o name_n of_o pastor_n teacher_n elder_n etc._n etc._n notify_v the_o relation_n and_o so_o be_v forcible_o argumentative_a for_o a_o church_n be_v the_o correlate_n 3._o the_o intendment_n of_o some_o name_n and_o title_n be_v not_o to_o express_v what_o be_v the_o correlate_n but_o some_o thing_n else_o about_o a_o relation_n as_o officer_n may_v be_v call_v minister_n of_o god_n and_o christ_n only_o to_o intimate_v who_o be_v the_o author_n and_o institutor_n of_o their_o office_n minister_n of_o the_o word_n to_o intimate_v what_o be_v the_o subject_n of_o their_o preach_n crier_n or_o preacher_n as_o in_o the_o text_n he_o mention_v 1_o tim._n 2._o 7._o
not_o the_o office_n that_o be_v in_o thou_o so_o it_o will_v follow_v that_o either_o timothy_n have_v the_o extraordinary_a gift_n when_o not_o the_o office_n or_o the_o office_n when_v not_o the_o gift_n that_o qualify_v for_o it_o it_o be_v a_o feeble_a argument_n that_o can_v stand_v unless_o there_o be_v a_o recede_a from_o the_o usual_a signification_n of_o divers_a word_n and_o a_o plain_a sense_n of_o the_o text_n allege_v for_o it_o and_o himself_o can_v find_v their_o argument_n to_o amount_v but_o to_o a_o it_o may_v be_v and_o so_o we_o may_v retort_v upon_o he_o what_o he_o groundless_o say_v to_o we_o pag._n 126._o all_o the_o answer_n it_o deserve_v be_v it_o may_v not_o be_v he_o shall_v not_o only_o have_v show_v that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d may_v be_v take_v for_o office_n and_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d for_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d etc._n etc._n but_o that_o they_o must_v be_v so_o take_v here_o else_o their_o argument_n be_v invalid_a we_o say_v one_o relate_v give_v be_v to_o another_o object_n it_o be_v true_a in_o esse_fw-la constituto_fw-la but_o consider_v relation_n in_o esse_fw-la constituendo_fw-la as_o they_o be_v to_o be_v constitute_v and_o so_o somewhat_o else_o give_v be_v to_o they_o the_o husband_n give_v be_v to_o the_o wife_n and_o the_o wife_n to_o the_o husband_n but_o there_o be_v something_o else_o which_o legal_o constitute_v they_o in_o that_o relation_n to_o wit_v the_o act_n of_o the_o justice_n or_o minister_n pag._n 151._o answ_n relata_fw-la give_v be_v one_o to_o another_o in_o esse_fw-la constituendo_fw-la especial_o if_o they_o be_v voluntary_a relation_n as_o this_o between_o officer_n and_o a_o church_n be_v thus_o a_o mutual_a covenant_n or_o agreement_n constitute_v one_o a_o master_n and_o another_o a_o servant_n and_o so_o for_o husband_n and_o wife_n the_o act_n of_o the_o magistrate_n be_v not_o constitutive_a of_o the_o relation_n between_o man_n and_o wife_n but_o declarative_a what_o he_o add_v about_o titus_n be_v answer_v before_o he_o be_v not_o leave_v in_o crete_n to_o ordain_v only_o but_o to_o preach_v and_o to_o perform_v other_o act_n peculiar_a to_o his_o office_n chap._n fourteen_o concern_v the_o people_n power_n in_o some_o case_n to_o ordain_v that_o in_o a_o church_n which_o have_v no_o officer_n or_o officer_n in_o it_o some_o believer_n may_v lawful_o or_o warrantable_o ordain_v without_o officer_n we_o prove_v by_o six_o argument_n mr._n pool_n repli_v to_o three_o of_o they_o argu._n 1._o else_o ordination_n be_v unattainable_a for_o there_o be_v not_o one_o precept_n nor_o precedent_n of_o a_o ordinary_a officer_n act_v in_o ordination_n out_o of_o the_o particular_a church_n he_o be_v over_o ob._n 1._o there_o be_v divers_a practice_n lawful_o use_v which_o yet_o we_o find_v no_o precedent_n for_o but_o such_o as_o extraordinary_a person_n be_v concern_v in_o as_o excommunication_n mr._n pool_n p._n 153._o answ_n if_o there_o be_v a_o precept_n for_o such_o practice_n as_o there_o be_v for_o excommunication_n mat._n 18._o we_o do_v not_o require_v a_o precedent_n our_o argument_n be_v from_o the_o want_n both_o of_o precept_n and_o precedent_n ob._n 2._o it_o be_v against_o they_o if_o what_o they_o say_v be_v true_a then_o there_o be_v neither_o precept_n nor_o precedent_n for_o the_o ordain_v of_o officer_n mr._n pool_n pag._n 153._o ans_fw-fr this_o be_v a_o great_a mistake_n also_o for_o we_o do_v not_o deny_v that_o a_o ordinary_a officer_n have_v precept_n or_o precedent_n for_o act_v in_o ordination_n in_o the_o church_n he_o be_v over_o but_o that_o any_o of_o the_o text_n allege_v for_o ordination_n do_v warrant_v his_o ordain_v out_o of_o the_o particular_a church_n he_o be_v over_o this_o be_v it_o which_o we_o deny_v and_o so_o if_o a_o church_n want_v officer_n than_o those_o text_n warrant_v none_o in_o ordain_v and_o other_o general_a rule_n authorize_v no_o officer_n of_o other_o church_n to_o do_v it_o more_o than_o believer_n without_o office●_n and_o this_o answer_v also_o what_o he_o add_v pag._n 153._o 154._o we_o grant_v that_o some_o act_n of_o extraordinary_a officer_n be_v precedent_n for_o we_o but_o not_o such_o act_n as_o be_v of_o a_o extraordinary_a nature_n or_o do_v flow_v from_o a_o extraordinary_a power_n in_o the_o act_n itself_o of_o ordain_v the_o apostle_n be_v precedent_n for_o we_o but_o if_o ordination_n be_v upon_o the_o hand_n of_o apostle_n ministerial_o in_o every_o church_n yet_o it_o do_v not_o follow_v it_o ought_v to_o be_v so_o on_o the_o hand_n of_o every_o minister_n in_o this_o the_o apostle_n be_v not_o precedent_n because_o they_o be_v elder_n in_o every_o church_n so_o be_v not_o ordinary_a officer_n as_o we_o have_v prove_v that_o the_o proper_a elder_n of_o every_o church_n shall_v carry_v on_o the_o work_n in_o their_o own_o church_n be_v according_a to_o the_o precedent_n but_o it_o reach_v no_o further_o ob_fw-la 3._o for_o 1_o tim._n 4._o 14._o we_o read_v nothing_o of_o they_o which_o be_v extraordinary_a mr._n pool_n pag._n 154._o answ_n 1._o it_o be_v very_o probable_a it_o be_v a_o extraordinary_a presbytery_n for_o there_o be_v not_o a_o word_n to_o evidence_n it_o to_o consist_v of_o ordinary_a person_n apostle_n be_v presbyter_n 1_o pet._n 5._o 1._o 2._o joh._n 1._o and_o paul_n one_o of_o the_o presbytery_n 2_o tim._n 1._o 6._o we_o prove_v before_o that_o no_o office_n be_v convey_v 1_o tim._n 4._o 14._o and_o if_o it_o be_v only_o a_o extraordinary_a gift_n no_o ordinary_a presbytery_n can_v convey_v that_o himself_o say_v the_o power_n of_o confer_v such_o gift_n be_v the_o privilege_n of_o apostle_n and_o extraordinary_a officer_n p._n 150._o he_o that_o will_v conclude_v it_o a_o ordinary_a presbytery_n must_v argue_v a_o genere_fw-la ad_fw-la speciem_fw-la affirmative_a and_o say_v it_o be_v a_o presbytery_n ergo_fw-la it_o be_v a_o ordinary_a one_o 2._o if_o it_o be_v a_o ordinary_a presbytery_n which_o yet_o be_v not_o grant_v the_o call_v to_o lay_v on_o hand_n be_v extraordinary_a by_o prophecy_n as_o themselves_o confess_v jus_fw-la diu._n min._n p._n 167._o and_o this_o be_v enough_o to_o our_o present_a argument_n ar._n 2._o our_o second_o argument_n be_v take_v from_o believer_n act_v in_o a_o synod_n act._n 15._o and_o other_o public_a service_n ob._n 1._o if_o there_o be_v scripture_n precept_n or_o example_n for_o the_o one_o and_o not_o for_o the_o other_o than_o they_o may_v do_v the_o one_o and_o not_o the_o other_o mr._n pool_n pag._n 155._o answ_n where_o have_v he_o any_o scripture_n precept_n or_o example_n for_o provincial_a national_a or_o ecumenical_a synod_n invest_v with_o power_n of_o censure_n he_o must_v argue_v from_o a_o parity_n of_o reason_n which_o be_v no_o good_a plea_n in_o that_o case_n there_o be_v no_o institution_n for_o any_o such_o assembly_n if_o they_o be_v institute_v their_o be_v warrant_v to_o do_v some_o service_n may_v by_o a_o parity_n of_o 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rom._n 10._o 14._o where_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d &_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v use_v to_o signify_v their_o declare_v or_o publish_v their_o message_n as_o crier_n or_o herald_n use_v to_o do_v some_o name_n and_o title_n be_v not_o intend_v for_o the_o discover_v what_o be_v the_o correlate_n to_o the_o office_n of_o the_o ministry_n but_o for_o other_o end_n and_o therefore_o our_o argument_n be_v firm_a though_o all_o title_n have_v not_o the_o church_n only_o as_o their_o correlate_n 4._o we_o judge_v his_o first_o answer_n which_o he_o call_v most_o proper_a to_o this_o question_n to_o who_o be_v they_o officer_n most_o improper_a for_o it_o be_v this_o to_o jesus_n christ_n shall_v a_o king_n pass_v through_o a_o street_n and_o it_o be_v inquire_v wat_fw-mi or_o who_o king_n go_v there_o and_o one_o shall_v answer_v christ_n king_n he_o shall_v give_v a_o very_a improper_a answer_n and_o leave_v the_o enquir_a in_o the_o dark_a but_o he_o that_o inform_v that_o 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