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A01309 A defense of the sincere and true translations of the holie Scriptures into the English tong against the manifolde cauils, friuolous quarels, and impudent slaunders of Gregorie Martin, one of the readers of popish diuinitie in the trayterous Seminarie of Rhemes. By William Fvlke D. in Diuinitie, and M. of Pembroke haule in Cambridge. Wherevnto is added a briefe confutation of all such quarrels & cauils, as haue bene of late vttered by diuerse papistes in their English pamphlets, against the writings of the saide William Fvlke. Fulke, William, 1538-1589. 1583 (1583) STC 11430.5; ESTC S102715 542,090 704

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caluine_n against_o it_o but_o that_o it_o do_v not_o usual_o and_o certain_o signify_v so_o their_o judgement_n upon_o the_o place_n remain_v still_o ground_v upon_o other_o argument_n although_o that_o reason_n of_o the_o acception_n of_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v not_o so_o strong_a as_o if_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d have_v never_o be_v so_o take_v but_o as_o for_o the_o blasphemy_n you_o say_v they_o conclude_v upon_o that_o place_n will_v redound_v upon_o your_o own_o neck_n for_o their_o exposition_n be_v honourable_a and_o glorious_a to_o god_n the_o father_n and_o christ_n his_o son_n and_o to_o the_o holy_a ghost_n by_o who_o that_o epistle_n be_v indict_v to_o the_o confusion_n of_o your_o popish_a blasphemy_n of_o the_o sacrifice_n propitiatory_a offer_v in_o the_o mass_n mart._n 30._o if_o beza_n in_o the_o self_n same_o place_n contend_v that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d do_v not_o signify_v reverence_n or_o piety_n but_o such_o a_o fear_n as_o have_v 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the_o scripture_n doctor_n and_o council_n pag._n 133._o i_o call_v martial_a blockeheade_n and_o shameless_a ass_n because_o he_o will_v prove_v that_o the_o spirit_n of_o god_n be_v not_o judge_v of_o the_o interpretation_n of_o the_o scripture_n because_o paul_n and_o barnabas_n in_o the_o controversy_n of_o circumcision_n go_v not_o to_o the_o word_n and_o spirit_n but_o to_o the_o apostle_n and_o elder_n at_o jerusalem_n also_o pag._n 213._o i_o call_v he_o asseheade_n because_o he_o say_v that_o m._n calfehill_n condemn_v his_o doctrine_n of_o only_a faith_n justify_v when_o he_o affirm_v that_o outward_a profession_n be_v necessary_a for_o every_o christian_a man_n likewise_o pag._n 215._o where_o marshal_n will_v learn_v whether_o m._n calfehill_n kneel_v down_o before_o his_o father_n to_o ask_v he_o blessing_n do_v not_o commit_v idolatry_n i_o say_v he_o be_v a_o ass_n that_o can_v not_o make_v a_o difference_n between_o civil_a honour_n and_o religious_a worship_n pag._n 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