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A71123 A learned and very usefull commentary upon the whole prophesie of Malachy by ... Mr. Richard Stock ... ; whereunto is added, An exercitation upon the same prophesie of Malachy, by Samuel Torshell. Stock, Richard, 1569?-1626.; Torshell, Samuel, 1604-1650. Exercitation vpon the prophecy of Malachy. 1641 (1641) Wing T1939; ESTC R7598 653,949 676

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purest Church For whom succeeded Christ and his Apostles Did he succeed Aaron and the Leviticall Priesthood Did he elect his Apostles out of them Nothing lesse For he succeeded not Aaron but Melchisedech being a Priest after his order not the others and so the succession was interrupted for many hundred yeares and so may be still And on the contrary there may be succession and no true Church when the faith is corrupt and not sound which made the Fathers when they speake of succession not urge a naked and externall succession but a true succession and such as was joyned with the succession of faith and religion * Non sanctorum filii sunt qui tenent loca sanctorum sed qui exercent opera eorum S. Hierom. They are not the children of the Saints who hold their seats but who follow their workes * Non ex personis fidem sed ex fide personaes probari oportet Tertul. lib. de Preser avers Haeret. We must not prove the faith from the persons but the persons from the faith So say we let them prove the persons from the faith and not faith from the persons They have not the inheritance of Peter who have not the faith of Peter All which shewes they would not have us to stand upon the succession of the place and person but the faith and doctrine * Non habent haereditatem Petri qui fidem Petri non habent Ambr. lib. 1. de poenit c. 6. Vse 3 This wil prove our Church to be a true Church though we have no succession externall and personall which separated from faith makes no Church but we have succession of faith which makes a Church for if these may be separated if there may be a Church where there is no personall succession as before If a personall succession and no Church as also before we holding the true faith of Christ the true doctrine of salvation are notwithstanding the want of personall succession the Church of Christ If they understand an extraordinary succession such as hath oftentimes been in the Church we say we have it Neither hinders that which the adversaries object that an extraordinary succession ought to be confirmed with miracles which we have not for the calling of the Prophets was extraordinary yet had they no miracles to confirme it let them shew us what miracles Ieremy Ezekiel Ioel Hosea Amos had who were called extraordinarily or Iohn Baptist John 10.41 Besides what miracles needs there when as our Pastors either deceased or living bring in no new doctrine or new faith nor erect a new Church but restore the old faith and repaire and purge the Church foully corrupted And whereas they deny us any ordination of Ministers because they which are lawfully ordained must be by an Apostle or one succeeding him immediately they be all fictions of their owne without a word of the Scripture for they are true Pastors which are called of their flockes and of the lawfull Magistrate teaching the people and doing those things which good Pastors should do And for Bellarmines distinction of calling or election which he acknowledgeth was sometime alone of that the people did chuse and grants may be good but not ordination It is answered if election be good we contend not much about ordination for they who have authoritie to chuse and call have to ordain If an orderly ordination be not to be had And finally if all Bishops should be Arrians and such as would ordaine none but them of their owne sect as sometimes they were must ordination by them be necessary or we must have no Ministers Vse 4 Then ought men to labour for knowledge that they be not deceived by the face of men and the Church but that they may know what is the true faith and who they are that bring it knowing them to be the Pastors of the Church by their doctrine Mat. 7.15.16 This fruit is doctrine Yee have caused many to fall by the Law The second thing reproved in them in seducing or mis-leading others making them to fall into sinne Doctrine It is a manifest corruption in the Ministers of the Church a thing wherein they are farre unlike to their faithful predecessors whereby they are made unacceptable unto God when their preaching or carriage is such as men by them are kept in sin caused or occasioned to sinne As this proves it and Isaiah 3.12 Ezek 13.22 And this is done either by not preaching or very negligently that they cannot know what to doe and so must needs sinne and offend Or by not reproving by which they doe not thinke thir sinnes to be sinnes but remaine in them according to that Levit. 19.17 or by dawbing as Ezek. 13.10 and promising life unto them notwithstanding their sinnes as vers 22. or by bad example as Gal. 2.12.13 Reason 1 Because it is against the main and principall end of his calling which is to turne men from sinne and Satan to God and godlinesse and righteousnes As then it is a fault for men to go contratry to the main end of their calling or trade any Artificer as when he should build to pull downe when he should make to marre when he should cure to wound And if we may speake familiarly as we complaine of Tinkers for making two holes when they undertake to stop one or of Chyrurgions that make two wounds when they professe to cure one made already so must it needs be a corruption in these Reason 2 Because he crosseth the desire of God who delighteth much in the conversion of a sinner and would have men converted from sinne and not kept in them Vse 1 This will convince many Ministers of corruption degenerating from the Prophets faithful Ministers of God who so walk in their Ministery as men are hardened by them caused and occasioned to sinne they preach so seldome and carelesly instruct the people they have charge of they reprove so little or smooth so much or are so corrupt and licentious And this not in the Church of Rome only but in the reformed Churches which haue justly separated from her so that sinne abounds every where Now woe be to such watchmen for they shall answer for the bloud of those perishing soules and that which perisheth shall be made good foule for soule And woe unto such dawbers Ezek. 13.13 Vse 2 This may serve for an Apologie for the Ministers of God when they preach and exhort and reprove and threaten but with small thankes from those that heare them yet seeing the contrary is corruption and a degenerating from the faithfull and their steps and a meanes to make them unacceptable to God their Lord and Master It may speake for them if they thus preach and practise It may be if they preached all peace all placentia and waken never a secure man out of his sinne they would cunne him more thanke and all speake well of him But woe unto you when all men speake well
and know themselves but men It is a thing that cannot be denied because stories of all times do manifestly prove it that sometimes errours and heresies have so much prevailed that the most part of them who held and possessed great places of office and dignity in the Church of God either for feare flattery hope of gaine or honour or else mis-led through simplicitie or directly falling into errour and heresie and departed from the soundnesse of the faith so that the sincerity of religion was upholden and the truth defended and maintained onely by some few and they molested persecuted and traduced as turbulent and seditious persons enemies to the common peace of the Christian world To say nothing of the times of Christ and after him of the first Churches in the Acts. This was the state of the Christian world in the time of Athanasius when in the Councell of Selencia and Ariminium the Nicence faith was condemned and all the Bishops of the whole world were carried from the soundnesse of the faith save Athanasius and some few Confessors banished with him So that Hieron contra Luciferam Ingemuit totius orbis miratus est factum se Arrianum So Hilarius contra Aux Episc Mill. complained that the Arrian faction had confounded all Paphnutius in the Councell of Nice for the marriage of Ministers was alone But yee are gone out of the way Though they succeeded them in their places yet not in their faith not in the truth of doctrine Doctrine There may be an ordinary and externall succession of place and person without succession of faith and truth of doctrine Manifest here in these Priests who held the places and did ordinarily succeed the Priests who were specially approved of God yet did not succeed them in faith and in soundnesse of truth And as it was in the times before often a succession of the one without the other And this is first manifest by the former doctrine for when it often happened that all the ordinary Priests such as had the outward succession were in errour God exciting extraordinary Prophets to reprove them as Isaiah Ieremie c. It must needs be that there was a separation of these two In particular it is manifest in the time of Elijah 1 King 19.14 So when wicked Ahaz was King 2 King 16.11 Vriah the high Priest corrupting the worship In the Church of the Jewes in Christs time it was so for they condemning Christ and his followers as schismaticall Joh. 9.22 and 12.42 This is further proved Acts 20.29.30 These had their succession from the Apostles and held the same seats the same places which the Apostles held yet had not the same truth and faith So out of the Ecclesiasticall stories it is manifest that the Arrian Bishops as Eusebius Nicomediens and Eustathius and others did derive their succession of place persons seats and Churches from the Apostles For they were called chosen and ordained after the custome of the Church and had no new but the lawfull calling So of the Donatists and Paulus Samosatenus in the Church of Antioch succeeded Peter as well as they did at Rome And the Greeke Church judged by the Papists schismaticall hath her personall succession not onely 1200. yeares as they confesse from Constantines time but long before from Andreas the Apostle as Nicephorus lib. 8. Chronol cap. 6. Reason 1 Because the grace of God and the truth is not hereditary that men should leave it at their pleasure to their heires and successors as they can their places and seats for John 3. as the winde so the Spirit blowes where it lists Not living men can make others whom they gladly would partakers of their faith and truth how should the dead and departed living men more likely Reason 2 Because as in a common wealth new Lords new lawes and succeeding men have different mindes affections wills desires ends c. and so change many things so it is in the Church And though they should leave them it as an inheritance yet we see children hold not their patrimony but many spend all so of this And as is said of Himeneus and Alexander that they made shipwrack of faith 1 Tim. 1.19.20 So of others Vse 1 Then falls to the ground the doctrine of Popery making this externall and personall succession a note of the Church and by it would prove theirs to be the true Church But if there may be such a succession without true faith and if true faith onely makes a true Church then can it be no true nor certaine note Besides it is not certaine nor expressed in the word of God that the Pope was Peters successor no not in place but to be proved onely by tradition and not to be deduced out of the Word as Bellarmine de Rom. Pont. lib. 2. cap. 12. confesseth And so the maine point whereon the government and Hierarchy of the Papacie dependeth hath no word in the Scriptures to prove it and so the whole is hanged upon the conjectures of men as upon a rotten threed For the Scripture not affirming it what assurance can there be for matter of faith the matter must needs be suspitious and doubtfull Againe even the histories which is their proofe are in such various opinions that a man can hardly tell whom to follow touching Peters comming to Rome and his immediate successors Some say he came to Rome in the first yeare of Claudius the Emperour some in the second some in the fourth some in the tenth and it may be that none of these is true sure it is all cannot be true For his successors Tertullian maketh Clement his next successor Optatus nameth Linus and then Clement Irenaeus maketh Linus then Cletus then Clement If they differ thus what certainty where should faith finde any sure ground If then the succession at best is questionable and doubtfull if it may be certaine and yet be dis-joyned from the succession of faith as it is most certainly in them and true faith onely makes a Church then can this be no true note of the Church Vse 2 To teach us not to be deceived with the glorious shew and great boast of such succession specially when there is an apparant digression from the faith or a probable doubt of corruption in it For what succession soever be it never so long or glorious as a greater could not be then these Priests and people could have objected unto the Prophet yet if it be without truth of doctrine and true faith which is the very soule of succession it is nothing else but a very dead carkasse whereas true faith without any such outward succession establisheth and maketh a Church And indeed one of the purest and most excellentest Churches was without such a succession For the Church of which Christ in his owne person was Authour and Master in which the Apostle was brought up instructed had no succession And yet none will or dare deny that it was the best and