A FULL RELATION of the Passages concerning the Late TREATY FOR A PEACE BEGUN AT VXBRIDGE JANUARY 30. 1644. Printed by His MAjESTIES Command AT OXFORD By Leonard Lichfield Printer to the Vniversity 1645. A TABLE OR INDEX SHEWING breifly the Method and Order of this Narrative and directing to the places where each subjects Matter therein conteyned is to be found 1. ARE set down the Messages and Propositions sent by His Majestie and brought to Him which preceded the Treaty and were inducements to it beginning Page the first and ending page the 20. 2. The Passages in the beginning of the Treaty preparatory therevnto wherein 1. Of the severall Commissions and Passages therevpon beginning pag. 20. ending pag. 29. 2. The Papers Concerning the Manner and Order of the Treaty pag. 29. ending pag. 30. 3. The Papers concerning a Scandalous Sermon Preached at Vxbridge against the Treaty the first day of the Treaty and before it began pag. 30. ending pag 31 3. The Papers Concerning Religion during the whole Treaty Collected together pag. 32. ending pag. 50. 4. The Papers Concerning the Militia during the whole Treaty Collected together pag. 51. ending pag. 94. 5. The Papers Concerning Ireland during the whole Treaty Collected together pag. 93. ending pag 140 6. The Papers Concerning His Majesties Propositions and particularly for a Cessation of Armes and touching His Majesties returne to Westminster after disbanding of Armies and further time for continuing or renewing the Treaty are Collected together pag. 140. ending pag. 156. 7. And lastly an Appendix is added wherein are contayned such things as are mentioned in the Narrative or were delivered in writing during the Treaty and were not Printed before or being heretofore Printed are now out of Print or not easily to be had the particulars whereof are as followeth 1. His Majesties Message from Evesham of the 4th of July 1644. pag. 157. 2. His Majesties Message from Tavestock of the 8th of September 1644. pag. 159. 3. The Bill for abolishing of Episcopacy c. pag. 160. 4. The Articles of the late Treaty of the date at Edenburgh the 29th of Novemb. 1643. pag. 169 5. The Ordinance for calling the Assembly of Divines pag. 174. 6. The Votes and Orders delivered with it pag. 180. and 181. 7. The Articles of the 6th of August 1642. concerning Ireland pag. 182. 8. The Ordinances of the 9th of March and the 11th of April touching the Forces in Ireland pag. 188. 9. The Letters and advices from the Lords Justices and Councell of Ireland pag. 189. 10. The Letters and advices from the Lords Justices and Councell of Ireland pag. 189. Herevnto is added His Majesties answers to certain Papers delivered upon the close of the Treaty one concerning the Militia and two concerning Ireland beginning pag. 199. His MAjESTY having received an Account from His Commissioners of their proceedings in the late Treaty atVxbridge to the end that all His people may be fully satisfied of his earnest and constant endeavours to procure the publique Peace whereby to put an end to these present miseries hath commanded this full and plain Narrative of all the passages concerning that Treaty to be made and published AFter His Majesties Message from Evesham of See these Messages in the Appendix no. 1. 2. the 4th of Iuly last desiring and propounding a Treaty for Peace And His second Message from Tavestoke of the 8th of September last renewing that desire At length on the 23 day of November last past the Earle of Denbigh and others repaired to His Majesty at Oxford with Propositions in these words following WEE Your Majesties Loyall Subjects assembled in the I. Parliaments of both your Kingdoms from the sence of that duty we owe unto Your Majesty and of the deep sufferings and many miseries under which your People of all Your Kingdoms lye bleeding in this unnaturall Warre after long and serious consultation about the best wayes and means of their preservation and for setling Your Majesties Throne and Your Subjects in Peace and Security have with common consent Resolved upon these Propositions which we doe humbly tender unto Your Majesty The humble desires and Propositions for a safe and well grounded Peace agreed upon by the mutuall advice and consent of the Parliaments of both Kingdoms united by solemne League and Covenant to be presented to His Majesty 1. That by Act of Parliament in each Kingdom respectively all Oathes Declarations and Proclamations against both or either of the Houses of the Parliament of England and the late â—onvention of Estates in Scotland or Committees flowing from the Parliament or Convention in Scotland or their Ordinances and proceedings or against any for adhering unto them And all Indictments Outlaries and Attainders against any for the said Causes be declared Null suppressed and forbidden And that this be publiquely intimated in all Parish-Churches within His Majesties Dominions and all other places needfull 2. That His Majesty according to the laudable example of His Royall Father of happy memory may be pleased to sweare and signe the late solemne League and Covenant And that an Act of Parliament be passed in both Kingdoms respectively for enjoyning the taking thereof by all the Subjects of the three Kingdoms and the Ordinances concerning the manner of taking the same in both Kingdoms be confirmed by Acts of Parliaments respectively with such penalties as by mutuall advice of both Kingdoms shall be agreed upon 3. That the Bill be passed for the utter abolishing and taking away of all Arch-Bishops Bishops their Chancellours and Commissaries Deanes and Subdeanes Deanes and Chapters Archdeacons Canons and Prebendaries And all Chanters Chancellours Treasurers Subtreasurers Succentors Sacrists and all Vicars Chorall and Choristers old Vicars and new Vicars of any Cathedrell or Collegiat Church And all other their under officers out of the Church of England and Dominion of Wales and out of the Church of Ireland with such alterations concerning the Estates of Prelates as shall agree with the Articles of the late Treaty of the Date at Edenborough 29. of Novemb. 1643. And joynt Declaration of both Kingdomes 4. That the Ordinance concerning the calling and sitting of the Assembly of Divines be confirmed by Act of Parliament 5. That Reformation of Religion according to the Covenant be setled by Act of Parliament in such manner as both Houses shall agree upon after consultation had with the Assembly of Divines And for as much as both Kingdoms are mutually obliged by the same Covenant to endeavour the nearest Conjunction and uniformity in matters of Religion that such unity and uniformity in Religion according to the Covenant as after consultation had with the Divines of both Kingdomes now assembled shall be joyntly agreed upon by both Houses of the Parliament of England and by the Church and Kingdom of Scotland be confirmed by Acts of Parliament of both Kingdoms respectively 6 That for the more effectuall disabling Jesuits Priests Papists and Popish Recusants from disturbing the State and
the same were particularly enacted by the Authority of Parliament And that the Lord Major Aldermen and Commons in Common-Councell may adde to or repeale the said Ordinances from time to time as they shall see cause That such other Propositions as shall be made for the City for their farther safety welfare and Government and shall be approved of by both Houses of Parliament may be granted and confirmed by Act of Parliament Vpon consideration of which Propositions His Majesty sent the Duke of Richmond and the Earle of Southampton with this Message of the 13th of December HIs Majesty hath seriously considered your Propositions II. and findes it very difficult in respect they import so great an alteration in Government both in Church and State to returne a particular and positive answer before a full debâ—te wherein thosâ— Propositions and all the necessary Explanations and reasons for assenting dissenting or qualifying and all inconveniences and mischiefes which may ensue and cannot otherwise be so well foreseen may be discussed and weighed His Majesty therefore proposeth and desireth as the best expedient for Peace That you will appoynt such number of Persons as you shall think fit to Treat with the like number of Persons to be appoynted by His Majesty upon the said Propositions and such other things as shall be proposed by His Majesty for the preservation and defence of the Protestâ—nt Religion with due regard to the ease of tender Consciences as His Majesty hath often offered The Rights of the Crowne The Liberty and Property of the Subject and the Priviledges of Parliament And upon the whole matter to conclude a happy and blessed Peace Vnto which Message this Answer of the 27th of December was returned to His Majesty May it please your Most Excellent Majesty WEE Your Majesties humble and Loyall Subjects of both Kingdomes have considered of Your Maiesties Message III. of the 13. of December 1644. sent by the Duke of Richmond and the Earle of Southampton directed to the Lords and Commons assembled in the Parliament of England at Westminster and to the Commissioners of the Parliament of Scotland now at London And doe in all humblenesse returne this Answer That we doe consent there be a Treaty for a safe and well grounded Peace But find that it will require some time to resolve concerning the Instructions and manner of that Treaty And therefore that Your Majesty might not be held in suspence touching our readinesse to make use of any opportunity for attayning such a blessed and happy Peace in all Your Majesties Dominions We would not stay Your Majesties Messengers till we did resolve upon all thâ—se particulars which we will take into our serious consideration and present our humble desires to Your Majesty with all convenient speed Westminster the 20 â—h of Decemb. 1644. Gray of Wark Speaker of the House of Peeres pro tempore Signed in the name and by warrand of the Commissioners of the Parliament of Scotland LOWDON William Lenthall Speaker of the Commons House Assembled in Parliament And afterwards upon the 18th of January following Sir Peter Killigrew brought this farther Answer to His Majesty May it please Your Most Excellent Majesty WEE Your Majesties humble and Loyall Subjects the IV. Lords and Commons assembled in the Parliament of England at Westminster and the Commissioners of the Parliament of Scotland do make our further answer to Your Majesties Message of the 13th of December last 1644. Concerning a Treaty for Peace as followeth We do consent that there be a Treaty for a safe and well grounded Peace between your Majesty and your humble and Loyall Subjects assembled in the Parliaments of both Kingdomes And for the present have appoynted Algernon Earle of Northumberland Philip Earle of Pembrook Mountgomery William Earle of Salisbury Bâ—sill Earle of Denbigh Thomas Lord Viscount Wenman Denzill Hollis William Pierrepoint Sir Henry Vane Junior Oliver St Iohn Bulstrode Whitlock Iohn Crew Edmund Prideaux for the Lords and Commons assembled in the Parliament of England at Westminster And Iohn Earle of Lowdon Lord Chancellor of Scotland Archibald Marquisse of Argyle Iohn Lord Maitland Iohn Lord Balmerino Sir Archibald Iohnston Sir Charles Erskin George Dundas Sir Iohn Smith M r Hugh Kennedy and M r Robert Barclay for the Estates of the Parliament of Scotland together with Master Alexander Henderson upon the Propositions concerning Religion who or any Ten of them there being alwayes some of the Parliaments of both Kingdomes are appointed and authorized to meet at Vâ—bridge on what day Your Majesty shall be pleased to set downe before the last day of this present Ianuary with such Persons as Your Majesty shall appoint under Your Signe Manuall for that purpose And the number of the persons to Treat not to exceed seventeen on either part unlesse the persons named for the Estates of the Parliament of Scotland now not here or any of them shall come and then Your Maiesty may have the like number if you please There to Treat upon the Matters conteined in the Propositions we lately sent unto Your Majesty according to such Instructions as shall be given unto them And the Propositions for Religion the Militia and for Ireland to be first Treated on and agreed and the time for the Treaty upon the said Propositions for Religion the Militia and for Ireland not to exceed Twenty dayes and for the things mentioned in Your Message to be propounded by Your Maiesty when the Persons sent by Your Maiesty shall communicate the same to the Committees appointed by us as aforesaid We have directed them to send the same to us That they may receive our Instructions what to doe therein And to the end that the Persons that are to be sent from Your Majesty and from us with their retinue not exceeding the number of one Hundred and Eight on either part may repaire to Vxbridge stay there and returne at their pleasure without interruption That mutuall safe Conducts be granted to the said Persons according to the severall Lists of their Names Signed by Order of the Lords and Commons Assembled in the Parliament of England as Westminster Signed in the name and by warrant of the Commissioners of the Kingdome of Scotland LOWDON Gray of Wark Speaker of the House of Peeres pro tempore William Lenthall Speaker of the Commons House in the Parliament of England Whereunto His Majesty returned an Answer inclosed in a Letter from Prince Rupert to the Earle of Essex dated the 21 of January which Letter and Answer were as followeth The Letter My Lord I Am commanded by His Majesty to returne this His answer V. Together with this inclosed in a Letter from Prince Rupert to the Earle of Essex His Majestie sent a safe Conduct for their Commissioners and their retinue to the Message lately sent Him from the Lords and Commons assembled in the Parliament of England at Westminster and the Commissioners of the Parliament of Scotland by Sir Peter Killigrew I
have likewise sent your Lordship His Majesties safe Conduct for the persons desired and also a List of the names of those His Majesty hath appoynted to Treat for whom together with their Retinue His Majesty hath desired a safe Conduct The Answer inclosed HIs Majesty having received a Message by Sir Peter Killigrew from the Lords and Commons assembled in the VI. Parliament of England at Westminster and the Commissioners oâ— the Parliament of Scotland concerning a Treaty returns this answer That His Majesty doth very willingly consent that there be a Treaty upon the Matters contained in the Propositions lately sent unto him in such manner as is proposed and at the place appoynted in the said Message and to that purpose His Majesty will send the Duke of Richmond the Marquesse of Hertford the Earle of Southampton the Earle of Kingston the Earle of Chichester the Lord Capell the Lord Seymour the Lord Hatton the Lord Culpeper Secretary Nicholas M. Chancellour of the Exchequer the L. Cheife Baron Lane Sr Orlando Bridgman S â— Thomas Gardiner M. John Ashburnham M. Ieffery Palmer together with Dr Steward Clerk of His Majesties Closet upon the Propositions concerning Religion to meet with the persons mentioned in the said Message at Vxbridge on wednesday night the 29th of this instant Ianuary the Treaty to begin the next day Which persons or any ten of them shall be sufficiently authorised by His Majestie to Treat and conclude on His Majesties part And to the end that the persons aforesaid and their Retinue may repaire to Vxbridge stay there and returne at their pleasure without interruption or goe or send during their abode there to His Majestie as often as occasion shall require His Majesties desires that a safe Conduct may accordingly be sent for the said persons and their Retinue according to a List of their names herewith sent And then also inclosed in a Letter from Prince Rupert to the Earle of Essex His Majestie sent Propositions to be Treated upon on His Maiesties part which Letter and Propositions follow My Lord I am commanded by His Majestie to send these enclosed Propositions VII Prince Ruperts Letter to your Lordship to be presented to the Lords and Commons assembled in the Parliament of England at Westminster and the Commissioners of the Parliament of Scotland to the end that there may be as little losse of time as is possible but that the same may be treated on assoone as may be thought convenient after the entry upon the Treaty His MAjESTIES Propositions to the Lords and Commons Assembled in the Parliament of England at Westminster and the Commissioners of the Parliament of Scotland for a safe and well grounded Peace 1. THat His Majesties owne Revenue Magazines VIII His Majesties Propositions Townes Forts and Ships which have been taken or kept from Him by force be forthwith restored unto Him 2. That whatsoever hath been done or published contrary to the knowne Lawes of the Land or derogatory to His Majesties Legall and knowne Power and Rights be renounced and recalled That no seed may remaine for the like to spring out of for the future 3. That whatsoever illegall Power hath been claimed or exercised by or over His Subjects as imprisoning or putting to death their Persons without Law stopping their Habeas Corpusses and imposing upon their Estates without Act of Parliament c. either by both or either House or any Committee of both or either or by any persons appointed by any of them be disclaimed and all such persons so committed forthwith discharged 4. That as His Majesty hath alwayes professed His readinesse to that purpose so He will most cheerfully consent to any good Acts to be made for the suppression of Popery and for the firmer setling of the Protestant Religion established by Law As also that a good Bill may be framed for the better preserving of the Book of Common-Prayer from scorne and violence And that another Bill may be framed for the ease of tender Consciences in such particulars as shall be agreed upon For all which His Majesty conceives the best expedient to be that a Nationall Synod be legally called with all convenient speed 5. That all such persons as upon the Treaty shall be excepted and agreed upon on either side out of the Generall Pardon shall be tryed Per Pares according to the usuall course and knowne Law of the Land and that it be left to that either to acquit or condemne them 6. And to the intent this Treaty may not suffer interruption by any intervening Accidents That a Cessation of Armes and free Trade for all His Majesties Subjects may be agreed upon with all possible speed Given at the Court at Oxford the 21th day of Jan. 1644. The Earle of Essex upon receipt hereof returned to Prince Rupert together with a safe Conduct this Letter of the 25. of Ianuary Sir I Am commanded by both Houses of the Parliament of England and desired by the Commissioners of the Kingdome of IX Scotland to desire your Highnesse to let His Majesty know That they doe agree that their Committees doe begin the Treaty aâ— Vxbridge on Thursday the 30th of this January with the Persons appointed by His Majesty on the matters contained in the Propositions lately sent unto His Majesty in such manner as was proposed And their Committees shall have Instructions concerning the Propositions sent from His Majesty in your Highnesse Letter And you will herewith receive a safe Conduct from the Lords and Commons assembled in the Parliament of England for the Persons that are appointed by His Majesty to come to Vxbridge to Treat on the Propositions for a safe and well grounded Peace with their Retinue in a List hereunto annexed Sir I am Westminster 25th Jan. 1644. Your Highnesse humble Servant ESSEX Thursday the 30th of Ianuary all the Commissioners named by His Maiestie and Commissioners named by the two Houses of Parliament in England and the Estates of the Parliament in Scotland did meet at Vxbridge where their Commissions were mutually delivered in and read and are as followeth His MAjESTIES Commission CHARLES R. WHEREAS after severall Messages sent by us to the X. Lords and Commons of Parliament assembled at Westminster expressing Our desires of Peace certaine Propositions were sent from them and brought unto Vs at Oxford in November last by the Earle of Denbigh and others and upon Our Answers Messages and Propositions to them and their returns to Vs it is now agreed That there shall be a Treaty for a safe and well grounded Peace to begin at Vxbridge on Thursday the 30th of this instant Ianuary as by by the said Propositions Answers Messages and Returnes in writing may more fully appeare We do therefore hereby appoynt assigne and constitute James Duke of Richmond and Lenox William Marquisie of Hâ—rtford Thomas Earle of Southampton Henry Earle of Kingston Francis Earle of Chichester Francis Lord Seymour Arthur Lord Capell Christopher Lord Hatton John
that whole Kingdom consented to such a Cessation we desire to be informed by your Lordships how that Cessation can be declared voyd without a breach of Faith and honour in His Majestie and we are ready by conference particularly to inform your Lordships of the motives which induced His Majestie to consent to that Cessation Their Answer 10. Feb. VVE conceive that His Maiestie had not power to make the CXLIII Cessation in Ireland nor had any iust grounds to doe the same and therefore we insist as in our former paper That an Act of Parliament be passed to make voy'd the Cessation of Ireland and conceive that His Maiestie is bound in honour and iustice to consent unto the same and we are ready to conferre with your Lordships as is desired and to receive your Lordships full answer to this the other particulars expressed in our paper concerning Ireland After long debates in conference which spent the greatest part of the day touching the motives of that Cessation and the King's power to make it His Majesties Commissioners delivered in this paper 10. Febr. WE have received no satisfaction or information in your CXLIV Lordships debate to alter our opinionâ— of His Majesties power to make the Cessation in Ireland and having carefully produced and considered the Statute alleadged by your Lordships we cannot find any particular clause in that Statute neither have your Lordships mentioned any though often desired by us so to do whereby His Majesties power to make a Cessation there is taken away and therefore we are still of opinion that His Majesty had full power to make and consent to that Cessation and we conceive that we have given your Lordships an account of very just grounds to induce His Majestie to do the same it appearing to His Maiestie by the Letters and advice from the Lords Iustices and Councell of that Kingdom and of the Officers of His Maiesties Army there which we have read to your Lordships and of which Letters and advices we now give * Copies of the Letters and advices were accordingly delivered Copies to your Lordships that His Maiesties good Protestant Subiects of that Kingdom were in imminent danger to be Over-runne by the Rebels and His Army to be disbanded for want of necessary supplies and that there was no such probable way for their preservation as by making a Cessation neither have your Lordships given us any satisfying reasons against the making the said Cessation or made it appeare to us that that Kingdom could have bin preserved without a Cessation and therefore we cannot apprehend how His Maiesty can with Iustice and honour declare the same to be voyd We shall be ready against the next time assigned for the Treaty touching Ireland to give your Lordships a further answer to your Propositions concerning that Argument the Treaty concerning Ireland of the 6th of August 1642. and the Ordinance of the 11th of April 1644. which we did never see till your Lordships delivered us Copies of them making so great an alteration in the Government there that we cannot be prepared for the present to make a full answer to those Propositions Their Answer 10. Feb. IT is very contrary to our expectation to find your Lordships unsatisfied CXLV after those Arguments and Reasons alleadged by us that His Maiestie had not power to make the Cessation with the Rebels in Ireland and that upon the perusall of the Statute it appeares not to you that His Maiestie had no power to make that Cessation it is strange to us your Lordships should forget all the other Arguments used by us from the Common-Law from other proceedings in Parliament and circumstances as this case stands on which we still insist and do affirme that His Maiestie had no power to make or consent to that Cessation we do not see any iust grounds in the Copies of the Letters given us by your Lordships for His Maiesties assenting to the Cessation nor do we know by whom those Letters were written we are therefore still clearely of Opinion notwithstanding all your Lordships have alleadged that it was unfit for His Maiestie to agree unto that Cessation being destructive to His good Subiects and to the Protestant Religion there and only for the advantage of the Popish Rebels to the high dishonour of God the Disservice of His Maiestie and evident preiudice of His three Kingdoms We therefore again desire your Lordships full answer to what we have delivered to you concerning Ireland The King's Commissioners Paper 10. February WE have given your Lordships our reasons why we are CXLVI not satisfied with your Arguments that His Majesty had not power to make the Cessation and as upon the perusall of the Statute we can find no ground for that Opinion so your Lordships in your whole debate have not insisted or mentioned one Clause in that Statute though often desired which makes See the lâ—te Statute concerning the Adventurers for Irâ—sh Lands it good neither have your Lordships given us any Argument from the Common-Law other then by telling us That it is against the Common-Law because the private Interest of the Subscribers for Money was concerned in it to which we give this Answer That their Interest was Conditionall upon payment of their Moneys for the maintenance of the Warre which was not performed And that if they had paid their Moneys yet this Cessation was rather for the advance of that Interest there being as it appeares by the * See the Letters and advices in the Appendix no. 9. Papers no other visible meanes of preservation of the Army in Ireland and that the Statute which gave that private Interest doth not take away the Kings Power of making a Cessation and we conceive that Argument of Interest was waved But it your Lordships shall insist upon it we againe desire as we did formerly That a Case may be made of it and that the debate may be againe resumed Neither doe we know that any Argument was used by your Lordships from the proceedings in Parliament And if you shall give any we shall be ready to Answer it And we conceive that the advice given to His Majesty from the Lords Iustices and Councell of Ireland and the Testimony of the Officers of the Army expressing the miserable condition of that Kingdome and inability to beare the Warre should appeare to your Lordships to be just grounds for His Majesties assenting to the Cessation One of the Letters delivered by us to your Lordships bearing date the fourth of April 1643. was sent by the Lords Iustices and Councell of Ireland to Mr Secretary Nicholas in which was inclosed their Letter to the Speaker of the House of Commons of which your Lordships have likewise an Extract and a Remonstrance of the Officers of the Army to the Lords Iustices and Councell there and the other Letter of the fifth of May 1643. to His Majesty was from the Lords Iustices and Councell of that
Offered if any other doubts yet remaine by conference to cleare them which still we are ready to doe And we have heard nothing just or reasonable for that Cessation It will be made evident that the necessities which by your Lordships were made excuses for the Cessation were created on purpose to colour the same and we are compelled by your Lordships paper to let you know that the Committees of Parliament sent into Ireland to endeavour to supply their necessities were discountenanced by the principall instruments for that Cessation and when they had taken up 2000l upon their personall security for the Army there they were presently after commanded from the Councell by a Letter brought thither from His Majesty by the Lord Ormonds Secretary And when the Officers of the Army were contented to subscribe for Land in satisfaction of their Arreares it was declared from His Majesty that He disapproved of such subscriptions whereby that course was diverted And we doe affirme that what ever summes of money raised for Ireland were made use of by both Houses of Parliament were fully satisfied with advantage and as we are informed before the Bill mentioned in our former paper was refused by His Majesty And for the Regiments of Horse and Foot mentioned by your Lordships to be raised for Ireland and imployed otherwise by the Houses of Parliament It is true that Forces were so designed and when the Money Armes and other Provisions were all ready and nothing wanting but a Commission from His Majesty for the Lord Wharton who was to Command them the same could not be obtained which was the cause those Forces did not goe thither and when twelve Shipps and six Pinnaces were prepared with 1000 or more land Forces for the service of Ireland and nothing desired but a Commission from His Majesty the Shipps lying ready and staying for the same were three weeks together at 300l a day charge yet the same was denyed though often desired And where your Lordships seem to imply that the provisions seized by His Maiesties Forces were going for Coventrey it was made known to His Maiesty that the same were for Ireland And your Lordships must needs conceive that the papers you delivered to us being but Extracts and for that you deny us so to compare them with the Originalls as to have the names of the Persons by whom they were Written it is altogether unreasonable for us to give any credit to them it being manifest by this and our former papers and debates that the Cessation with the Rebels in Ireland is both unjust and unlawfull We therefore insist on our demands concerning Ireland as apparently good for His Maiesties Subjects there and for reducing that Kingdom to His Maiesties Obedience Before His Maiesties Commissioners gave answer to this last paper they being also to answer the rest of the demands concerning Ireland for their necessary information touching some doubts that did arise upon those demands and the Articles of the Treaty of the 6th of August concerning Ireland and Ordinances delivered with them the Kings Commissioners gave in these severall papers The King's Commissioners first Paper 19. February IN the eight Article of the Treaty for the comming of the CL. Scots Army into England dated 29. Nov. 1643. at Edenbourgh delivered to us by your Lordships among the papers for Ireland and desired by the 12th Proposition to be confirmed by Act of Parliament It is agreed that no Cessation nor any Pacification or agreement for Peace whatsoever shall be made by either Kingdome without the mutuall advice and consent of both Kingdomes or the Committees in that behalfe appoynted who are to have full power for the same in case the Houses of the Parliament of England or the Parliament or Convention of Estates of Scotland shall not sit We desire to know whether that Article extend to any Cessation Pacification or Agreement in Ireland The Answer 19. Febr. WE did in answer to your Lordships Paper of the first of CLI February upon the Propositions concerning Religion deliver the Treaty of the 29th of November 1643. mentioned by your Lordships and not among the Papers for Ireland to which it hath no relation The King's Commissioners Reply 20. February YOur Lordships did deliver the Treaty of the 29th of November CLII. 1642. to us with the Papers concerning Ireland and on the 7th day of this instant February and not upon the first of February upon the Propositions concerning Religion Their Answer 20. Feb. WHen your Lordships peruse your Papers you will rest CLIII satisfied with our Answer of the 19th of this instant to your first Paper that day given to us for it will appeare by your Lordships 3d Paper of the first of February and our Paper given to your Lordships in answer of it that the Treaty of the date at Edenbourgh 29 Novemb. 1643. Was delivered to your Lordships on the first of February upon the Proposition of Religion and not upon the 3d of February with the Papers concerning Ireland The Article of the Treaty of the 29. of November 1643. which occasioned these Papers being by their Papers thus acknowledged not to concerne Ireland and so not pertinent to that subject the Kings Commissioners insisted no farther The King's Commissioners second Paper 19. February BY the 13th Proposition it is demanded that an Act be CLIV. passed to settle the prosecution of the Warre of Ireland in both Houses of Parliament of England to be managed by the joynt advices of both Kingdoms We desire to know Whether if the two Kingdoms shall not agree in their advice touching that Warre each have a Negative voyce or whether the Scots Commander in chiefe of the Forces in Ireland may manage that Warre in such case according to his own discretion Their Answer 19. Febr. IN answer to your Lordships second paper the prosecution of CLV the Warre of Ireland is to be setled in the two Houses of the Parliament of England but is to be managed by a joynt Committee of both Kingdoms wherein the Committee of each Kingdom hath a Negative voyce but in case of disagreement the Houses of Parliament of England may prosecute the Warre as they shall think fit observing the Treaty of the sixth of August 1642. between the two Houses and the Estates of the Parliament of Scotland and the Ordinance of the 11th of April 1644. delivered to your Lordships formerly The King's Commissioners third paper 19. February BY the 20th Proposition in the Intervals of Parliament the CLVI Commissioners for the Militia have power to nominate the Lord Deputy of Ireland and other Officers aâ—d Judges there We desire to know whether that power be limited to the Commissioners of both Kingdoms or only to the Commissioners for England and whether in such cases the Commissioners in Scotland shall vote as single persons Their Answer 19. Feb. THe power of the Commissioners in the Intervals of Parliament CLVII to nominate the Lord Deputy
of Humanity and Humane society who have Butchered so many thousands of Innocent Christians Men Woâ—men and Children whose blood cries up to Heaven for Vengeance so many of His Maiesties Subiects whose lives He is bound to require at their hands that spilt them and to doe Justice upon them to put away innocent blood from Himselfe His posterity the whole Land these execrable antichristian Rebels who have made a covenant with Hell to destroy the Gospell of Christ and have taken up Armes to destroy the Protestant Religion to set up Popery to rend away one of His Majesties Kingdoms and deliver it up into the hands of strangers for which they have negotiations with Spaine and other States a Warre which must prevent so much mischiefe doe so much good offer up such an acceptable sacrifice to the great and just God of Heaven who groanes under so much wickednesse to lye so long unpunished A Warre which must reduce that Kingdom unto His Majesties obedience the most glorious work that this Kingdom can undertake That the prosecution of such a Warre your Lordships should make to depend upon any other condition that the distractions of these Kingdoms should be laid as an impediment unto it and that there should be any thought any thing which should give those Rebells hope of impunity if our miseries continue whereas according to Christian reason and the ordinary course of Gods providence nothing can be more probable to continue our miseries then the least connivance in this kind what can be said or imagined should be any inducement to it we hope not to make use of their help and assistance to strengthen any party here to bring over such Actors of barbarous cruelties to exercise the same in these Kingdoms we desire your Lordships to consider these things and that nothing may remaine with you which may hinder His Majesty from giving His consent to all good means for the reducing of Ireland according to what is desired by us in our Propositions The King's Commissioners Reply to the two last Papers The King's Commissioners Paper 20. February WE are very sory that our answere formerly given to CLXXV your Lordships in the businesse of the Cessation which was so necessary to be made and being made to be kept hath not given your Lordships satisfaction and that your Lordships have not rather thought fit to make the reasonablenesse of your Propositions concerning Ireland appeare to us or to make such as might be reasonable in the stead then by charging His Majesty with many particulars which highly reflect upon His honour to compell us to mention many things in answer to your Lordships Allegations which otherwise in a time of Treaty when we would rather endeavour to prevent future inconveniences then to insist on past mistakes we desired to have omitted And we can no wayes admit that when the Cessation was made in Ireland His Maiesties Protestant Subjects there could have subsisted without that Cessation nor that the Warre can be maintained and prosecuted to the subduing the Rebels there so long as the Warre continues in this Kingdom which are the chiefe grounds laid for the assertions in your Lordships first Paper delivered this day concerning the businesse of Ireland neither can we conceive that your Lordships have alleadged any thing that could in the least degâ—ee satisfy us that His Majesty had no power to make that Cessation or had no reason so to doe considering as we have formerly said and doe againe insist upon it that by that Cessation which was not made till long after this Kingdom was embroyled in a miserable Warre the poore Protestants there who for want of supplies from hence were ready to famish and be destroyed were preserved and that Kingdome kept from utter ruine so farre was it from being a designe for their destruction or for the advantage of the Popish bloody Rebels as is insinuated for it appears by the Letters of the Lords Justices of Ireland Sir William Parsons and Sir John Borlase and of the Councell there of the 4th of Aprill 1643. before that Cessation made directed to the Speaker of the House of Commons a Copy whereof we delivered to your Lordships though we presume you may have the Originall That his Majesties Army and good Subiects there were in danger to be devoured for want of needfull supplies forth of England and that His Majesties Forces were of necessity sent abroad to trie what might be done for sustaining them in the Country to keep them alive untill supplies should get to them but that designe failing those their hopes were converted into astonishment to behold the miseries of the Officers and Souldiers for want of all things and all those wants made unsupportable in the want of food and diverse Commanders and Officers declaring they had little hope to be supplied by the Parliament pressed with so great importunity to be permitted to depart the Kingdom as that it would be extreame difficult to keep them there And in another part of that Letter for we shall not grieve you with mention of all their complaints they exprested That they were expelling thence all strangers and must instantly send away for England thousands of poore despoyled English whose very eating was then unsupportable to that place that their confusions would not admit the writing of many more Letters if any for they had written diverse others expressing their great necessities And to the end His Majesty and the English Nation might not irrecoverably and unavoydably suffer they did desire that then though it were almost at the pâ—ynt to be too late supplies of victualls and Ammunition in present might be hastned thither to keep life untill the rest might follow there being no victuall in the store nor a hundred Barrells of Powder a small proportion to defend a Kingdom left in the store when the out Garrisons as they were to be instantly were supplied and that remainder according to the usuall necessary expence besides extraordinary accidents would not last above a Month. And in that Letter they sent a Paper Signed by sundry Officers of the Army delivered to them as they were ready to signe that dispatch by them apprehended to threaten imminent danger which mentioned That they were brought to that great exigence that they were ready to rob and spoyle one another that their wants began to make them desperate That if the Lords Iustices and Councell there did not find a speedy way for their preservation they did desire that they might have leave to go away That if that were not granted they must have recourse to the Law of Nature which teacheth all men to preserve themselves And by a letter of the 11th of May following a Copie whereof we have also delivered to your Lordships the Lords Iustices and Councell there did advertise His Majesty that they had no victuall cloathes or other provisions no money to provide them of any thing they want no Armes not above 40 Barrells of
Horse appointed to joyne therewith whereunto they shall returne when the service is done And that no Officer of the Scottish Army shall be Commanded by one of his owne quality and if the Commanders of the Troopes so sent out of either Army be of one Quality that they Command the Party by turnes And it is neverthelesse provided That the whole Scottish Army may be called out of the Province of Vlster and the Horses appointed to joyne with them by His Majesties Lievtenant of Ireland or other Cheife Governour or Governours of that Kingdom for the time being if he or they shall thinke fit before the Rebellion be totally suppressed therein Eleventh It is agreed That the Scottish Army shall be entertained by the English for three moneths from the Twentieth of Iune last and so along after untill they be discharged and that they shall have a moneths Pay advanced when they are first Mustered in Ireland and thereafter shall be duly paid from Month to Month And that there shall be one Muster-Master appointed by the English Muster-Master Generall to make strict and frequent Musters of the Scottish Army and that what Companies of Men shall be sent out of Scotland within the compasse of the ten Thousand Men shall be paid upon their Musters in Ireland although they make not up compleat Regiments Twelfth It is agreed That the Scottish Army shall receive their discharge from the King and Parliament of England or from such Persons as shall be appointed and authorized by His Majesty and both Houses of Parliament for that purpose And that there shall be a Moneths warning before hand of their disbanding which said discharge and Moneths warning shall be made knowne by His Majesty and them to the Councell of Scotland or the Lord Chancellour a Moneth before the discharging thereof And that the Common Souldiers of the Scottish at their dismission shall be allowed fourteen dayes Pay for carrying of them home Thirteenth It is provided and agreed That at any time after the three Moneths now agreed upon for the entertainment of the Scottish Army shall be Expired and that the two Houses of Parliament or such Persons as shall be authorized by them shall give notice to the Councell of Scotland or to the Lord Chancellor there That after one Moneth from such notice given the said two Houses of Parliament will not pay the said Scottish Army now in Ireland any longer then the said two Houses of Parliament shall not be obleiged to pay the said Army any longer then during the said Moneth Any thing in this Treaty contained to the Contrary notwithstanding The Ordinances of the 9th of March and 11th of Aprill Die Sabbati 9. Martii 1644. Resolved upon the Question by the Lords and Commons in Parliament Assembled THat he who doth or shall command in chiefe over the said VIII Army by joynt advice of both Kingdoms shall also command the rest of the Brittish Forces in Ireland And for the further managing of that Warre and prosecuting the ends expressed in the Covenant That the same be done by joynt advice with the Committees of both Kingdomes Die Iovis 11. April 1644. Resolved upon the Question by the Lords and Commons in Parliament Assembled THat the Earle of Leven Lord Generall of the Scots Forces in Ireland being now by the Votes of both Houses agreed to be Commander in Chiefe over all the Forces as well Brittish as Scots according to the Fourth Article of the result of the Committees of both Kingdoms passed both Houses be desired with all convenient speed by the advice of the said Committees to appoynt and nominate a Commander in chiefe under his Excellency over the said Forces to reside with them upon the place Resolved c. THat Committees be nominated and appointed by the joynt advice of both Kingdomes of such numbers and Qualities as shall be by them agreed on to be sent with all convenient speed to reside with the said Forces and inabled with all ample Instructions by the joynt advice of both Kingdoms for the Regulating of the said Forces and the better carrying on of that Warre The Letter of the Lords Justices and Councell of Ireland to the Speaker of the House of Commons in England 4. Aril 1643. a Duplicate whereof the originall being sent to Westminster was by them sent to Mr Secretary Nicholas for His Majesty SIR OVr very good Lord the Lord Marquesse of Ormond having IX in his march in his last expedition consulted severall times with the Commanders and Officers of the Army in a Councell of Warre and so finding that subsistence could not be had abroad for the Men and Horses he had with him or for any considerable part of them it was resolved by them that his Lordship with those Forces should returne hither which he did on the sixe and twentieth of March. In his returne from Rosse which in the case our Forces stand he found so difficult to be taken in as although our Ordinance made a breach in their walls it was found necessary to desert the Siege he was encountred by an Army of the Rebels consisting of about sixe thousand Foot and sixe hundred and fifty Horse well Armed and Horsed yet it pleased God so to disappoint their Councells and strength as with those small Forces which the Lord Marquesse had with him being of fighting men about two thousand five hundred Foot and five hundred Horse not well armed and for the most part weakly horsed and those as well Men as Horses much weakned by lying in the fields severall nights in much Cold and Raine and by want of mans-meat and horse-meat the Lord Marquesse obtained a happy and glorious deliverance and Victory against those Rebells wherein were slaine about three hundred of them and many of their Commanders and others of quality and divers taken Prisoners and amongst those Prisoners Colonell Cullen a Native of this City who being a Colonell in France departed from thence and came hither to assist the Rebels and was Lievtenant Generall of their Army in the Province of Leinster and the Rebels Army were totally Routed and defeated and their Baggage and Munition seized on by His Majesties Forces who lodged that night where they had gained the Victory and on our side about Twenty slaine in the fight and divers wounded We have great cause to praise God for magnifying his goodnesse and mercy to his Majesty and this his Kingdome so manifestly and indeed wonderfully in that Victory However the joy due from us upon so happy an occasion is we confesse mingled with very great distraction here in the apprehension of our unhappinesse to be such as although the Rebels are not able to overcome His Majesties Army and devoure his other good Subjects here as they desire yet both his Army and good Subjects are in danger to be devoured by the wants of needfull Supplies forth of England for as we formerly signified thither those Forces were of necessity sent
abroad to try what might be done for susteining them in the Country so as to keep them alive untill Supplies should get to us But that designe now failing those our hopes are converted into astonishment to behold the unspeakable miseries of the Officers Souldiers for want of all things and all those wants made the more unsupportable in the want of Food whilest this City being all the help we have is now too apparently found to be unable to help us as it hath hitherto done and divers Commanders and Officers in the Army doe now so faire expresse their sense of their sufferings which indeed are very great and grievous as they declare that they have little hope to be supplyed by the Parliament and presse with so great importunity to be permitted to depart the Kingdome as it will be extream difficult to keep them here By our Letters of the three and twentieth of March we signified thither the unsupportable burthen laid on this City for Victualling those of the Army left here when the Lord Marquesse with the Forces he took with him marched hence which burden is found every day more heavy then other in regard of the many house-keepers thereby dayly breaking up house and scattering their Families leaving still fewer to bear the burden We also by those Letters and by our Letters of the five and twentieth of February advertised thither the high danger this Kingdom would incurre if the Army so sent abroad should by any distresse or through want be forced back hither againe before our reliefe of Victualls should arrive forth of England When we found that those men were returning back hither although we were and are still full of distraction considering the dismall consequences threatned thereby in respect of our wants yet we consulted what we could yet imagine fâ—sible that we had not formerly done to gaine some Food for those men and found that to send them or others abroad into the Country we cannot in regard we are not able to advance Money for procuring the many requisites incident to such an expedition In the end therefore we were enforced to fixe on our former way and so to see who had any thing yet left him untaken from him to help us and although there are but few such and some of them poor Merchants whom we have now by the Law of necessity utterly undone and disabled from being hereafter helpfull to us in bringing us in Victualls or other needfull Commodities yet were we forced to wrest their Commodities from them and certainly there are few here of our selves or others that have not felt their parts in the enforced rigour of our proceedings towards preserving the Army so as what with such hard dealing no lesse greivous to us to do then it is heavy to others to suffer and by our discending against our hearts farre below the honour and dignity of that power we represent here under his Royall Majestie we have with unspeakable difficulty prevailed so as to be able to find Bread for the Souldiers for the space of one month We are now expelling hence all strangers and must instantly send away for England thousands of poore dispoyled English whose very eating is now unsupportable to this place And now againe and finally we earnestly desire for our confusions will not now admit the writing of many more Letters if any that His Majesty and the English Nation may not suffer so great if not irrecoverable prejudice and dishonour as must unavoydably be the consequence of our not being relieved suddenly but that yet although it be even now at the point to be too late supplies of Victualls and Munition in present be hastened hither to keep life untill the rest may follow there being no victuall in the store nor will there be a hundred barrells of powder left in the store when the out Garrisons as they must be instantly are supplyed and that remainder according to the usuall necessary expense besides extraordinary accidents will not last above a month and the residue of our provisions must also come speedily after or otherwise England cannot hope to secure Ireland or secure themselves against Ireland but in the losse of it must look for such enemies from hence as will perpetually disturbe the Peace of His Majesty his Kingdom of England and annoy them by Sea and Land as we often formerly represented thither which mischeifes may yet be prevented if we be yet forthwith enabled from thence with meanes to overcome this Rebellion We hope that a course is taken there for hastening hither the provisions of Armes and Munition mentioned in the docquet sent with our Letters of the twentieth of Ianuary and the six hundred horses which we then moved might be sent hither for recruites and that the seven thousand eight hundred fourscore and thirteen pounds three shillings for Armes to be provided in Holland besides those we expect in London hath bin paid to Anthony Tierens in London or to Daniell Wibrants in Amsterdam and if that Summe had been paid as we at first desired we might well have had those provisions arrived here by the tenth of March as we agreed however we now desire that that Money if it be not already payd may be yet paid to M. Tierens in London or M. Wibrants in Amsterdam that so those provisions may arrive here speedily which considering that summer is now near at hand will be very necessary that when our supplies of Victualls Munition Clothes Money and other provisions shall arrive we may not in the publique service here loose the benefit and advantage of that season And so we remaine from His Majesties Castle of Dublin 4. April 1643. POST-SCRIPT As we were ready to signe this dispatch we received at this Board a paper signed by sundry Officers of the Army now here at Dublin which is in such a stile and threatens so much danger as we hold necessary to send a Copy thereof here incloâ—ed whereby still appeares the high necessity of hastening away money for them and the rest of the Officers and Victualls for the Souldier without which it will be impossible to conteine them from breaking out into mutinie The Letter inclosed MY LORDS AT our first entrance into this unhappy Kingdom we had no other designe then by Our Swords to assert and vindicate the right of His Majesty which was here most highly abused to redresse the wrongs of His poor Subjects and to advance our own particulars in the prosecution of so honest undertakings And for the first of these we do believe they have since our comming over succeeded pretty well but for the last which concernes our selves that hath fallen out so contrary to our expectations that in stead of being rewarded we have been prejudiced instead of getting a Fortune we have spent part of one and though we behave ourselves never so well abroad and performe the Actions of honest men yet we have the reward of Rogues and Rebells wich is misery
and want when we come home Now my Lords although we be brought to so great an exigence that we are ready to robbe and spoyle one another yet to prevent such outrages we thought it better to try all honest meanes for our subsistence before we take such indirect courses Therefore if your Lordships will be pleased to take us timely into your considerations before our urgent wants makes us desperate we will as we have done hitherto serve your Lordships readily and faithfully But if your Lordships will not find a way for our preservations here we humbly desire we may have leave to goe where we may have a better being and if your Lordships shall refuse to grant that we must then take leave to have our recourse to that first and prymary Law which God hath endued all men with we mean the Law of nature which teacheth all men to preserve themselves The Letter of the Lords Iustices and Councell of Ireland to His Majesty of the 11. of May. 1643. May it please Your most excellent Majesty AS soon as we your Majesties Iustices entred into the X. charge of this government we took into our consideration at this Board the state of your Army here which we find suffering under unspeakable extremities of Want of all things necessary to the support of their Persons or maintenance of the Warre here being no Victualls Cloaths or other provisions requisite towards their sustenance No Money to provide them of any thing they want No Armes in Your Majesties stores to supply their many defective Armes Not above forty Barrells of Powder in Your stores No strength of serviceable Horses being now left here and those few that are their Armes for the most part lost or unserviceable No Shipps arrived here to guard the Coasts and consequently no security rendred to any that might on their private adventures bring in provisions of Victualls or other necessaries towards our subsistence and finally No visible means by Sea or Land of being able to preserve for You this your Kingdom and to render deliverance from utter destruction to the remnant of Your good Subjects yet left here We find that Your Majesties late Iustices and this Board have often and fully by very many Letters advertised the Parliament in England of the extremities of Affaires here and besought reliefe with all possible importunity which also have been fully represented to Your Majesty and to the Lord Lieutenant and Mr Secretary Nicholas to be made known to Your Majesty and although the Winds have of late for many daies and often formerly stood very faire for accessions of supply forth of England hither and that we have still with longing expectations hoped to find provisions arrive here in some degree answerable to the necessities of Your affaires yet now to our unexpressible griefe after full six months waiting and much longer patience and long suffering we find all our great expectations answered in a mean and inconsiderable quantity of provisions viz. threescore and fifteen barrells of Butter and fourteen Tunne of Cheese being but the fourth part of a small Vessells loading which was sent from London and arrived here on the fift day of this Month which is not above seaven or eight daies provision for that part of the Army which lies in Dublin and the out Garrisons thereof No mony or victualls other then that inconsiderable proportion of Victuall having arrived in this place as sent from the Parliament of England or from any other forth of England for the use of the Army since the beginning of November last We have by the blessing of God been hitherto prosperous and successefull in Your Majesties affaires here and should be still hopefull by the mercy of God under the Royall Directions of Your Sacred Majesty to vindicate Your Majesties Honour and recover your rights here and take due vengeance on these Traitors for the innocent bloud they have spilt if we might be strengthened and supported therein by needfull supplies forth of England but these supplies having hitherto been expected to come from the Parliament of England on which if Your Majesty had not relied we are assured You would in Your High Wisdom have found out some other meanes to preserve this Your Kingdom and so great and apparent a failer having hapned therein and all the former and late long continuing Easterly Winds bringing us no other Provisions then those few Cheeses and Butter and no advertisements being brought us of any future supply to be so much as in the way hither whereby there might be any likelyhood that considerable means of support for Your Majesties Army might arrive here in any reasonable time before we be totally swallowed up by the Rebels and Your Kingdom by them wrested from you We find our selves so disappoynted of our hopes from the Parliament as must needs trenâ—h to the utter losse of the Kingdom if Your Majesty in Your high Wisdom ordaine not some present means of preservation for us And considering that if now by occasion of that unhappy and unexpected failing of support from thence we shall be lesse successefull in your Services here against the Rebels then hitherto whilst we were enabled with some meanes to serve you we have been the shame and dishonour may in common construction of those that know not the in-wards of the cause be imputed to us and not to the failings that disabled us and considering principally and above all things the high and eminent trust of your Affaires here deposited with us by your Sacred Majesty we may not forbeare in discharge of our Duty thus freely and plainly to declare our humble apprehensions to the end your Majesty thus truly understanding the terriblenesse of our Condition may find out some such meanes of support to preserve to your Majesties and your Royall Posterity this your Ancient and Rightfull Crowne and Kingdome and derive deliverance and safety to the Remnant of your good Subjects yet left here as in your Excellent Judgement you shall find to be most for your Honour and Advantage And so praying to the King of Kings to guide and direct you for the best in this high and important Cause and in all other your Councells and Actions we humbly remaine from your Majesties Castle of Dublin the 11th day of May 1643. Your Majesties most Loyall and most faithfull Subjects and Servants FINIS HIS MAIESTIES ANSWERS TO CERTAIN PAPERS DELIVERED IN to His Commissioners at Vxbridge upon the close of the TREATY ONE CONCERNING THE MILITIA AND TWO CONCERNING IRELAND To which being long and comming in so neare the breaking up of the Treaty no Answers could then be given See them in the Narrative N o 136. 177. 178. OXFORD Printed by Leonard Lichfield Printer to the Vniversity 1645. HIS Majesties Answers to certain Papers delivered See them in the Narrative no. 136. 177 178. in to His Commissioners at Vxbridge upon the close of the Treaty concerning the Militia and Ireland c.
of Ireland and other officers and Iudges there mentioned in the 20th Proposition being no matters of joynt concernments is to be limited to the Commissioners for the Parliament of England wherein the Commissioners of Scotland are to Vote as single persons The King's Commissioners fourth Paper 19. February THe Articles of the Treaty of the sixth of August giving CLVIII power to the Lievtenant of Ireland when the Scottish Army shall be joyned with His Army to give Instructions to the Scottish commander in chiefe and the Orders of the two Houses of the 9th of March 1644. and the 11th of Aprill See all these in the Appendix 1644. appoynting the Generall of the Scottish Forces in Ireland to command in chiefe over all the Forces as well Brittish as Scots and both being desired to be enacted We desire to know whether the Lievtenant of Ireland shall command the Scots Forces or whether the Scottish Generall shall command all Forces both Brittish and Scots Their Answer 19. Feb. IN Answer to your Lordships 4th Paper we say that the Ordinances CLIX. of the 9th of March and 11th of Aprill 1644. were made when there was no Lievtenant of Ireland and when a Lievtenant shall be made with the approbation of both Houses according to our former Demands in the â—7th and 20th Propositions it will be a fitting time to give further Answer to your Lordships The King's Commissioners Reply 20. Feb. VVE desire a full answer from your Lordships to our CLX fourth paper delivered to your Lordships yesterday concerning the Power of the Lord Lievtenant of Ireland and the Generall of Scots Forces your Lordship having proposed to us that the Articles of the Treaty and the Ordinance of the 11. of April be enacted by His Maiestie by one of which the Generall of the Scotch Forces is to receive instructions for the manageing the War there from the Lievtenant of Ireland and by the other which is the later the Generall of the Scots Forces is to command in cheif both the Brittish and Scots Forces by which it seemes the Lievtenant of that Kingdom is to have no power in the prosecution of that War Their Answer 20. Feb. WE do insist upon our former papers that the prosecution of CLXI the War in Ireland is to be setled in both Houses of Parliament and is to be managed by the ioynt advice of both Kingdoms as in those Papers is set down and when a Lievtenant of Ireland shall be appointed as is expressed in the Propositions and it shall be necessary for the good of the service that he and the Commander in chief of the Scottish Army ioyn The Commander of the Scottish Army shall receive Instructions from the Lord Lievtenant or Deputy or other who shall have the cheif Government of that Kingdom for the time according to the Orders which shall be given by the Commissioners of both Kingdoms The King's Commissioners fifth Paper 19. February THe last part of the 17th Proposition gives power to the CLXII Commissioners for the Militia of both Kingdoms as a ioynt Committee to order the War of Ireland according to the Ordinance of the 11th April and to order the Militia and conserve the Peace of the Kingdom of Ireland and by that of the 11th of April the Earle of Leven being appointed Commander in cheif over all the Forces as well Brittish as Scots We desire to know whether he shall be subordinate to those Commissioners for the Militia and be obliged to observe such orders as he shall receive from them Their Answer 19. Feb. THe Commissioners of the Militia desired by the 17th Proposition CLXIII are to order the War of Ireland according to the Ordinance of the 11th of April and the Earle of Leven being by that Ordinance Commander in cheif of the Forces there is obliged to observe such Orders as he shall receive from those Commissioners Their Commissioners likewise the same 19 of Feb. delivered in some Papers of Demands on their part Their Answer 19. Feb. WE desire that no Cessation of Armes or Peace in Ireland CLXIV may be Treated upon or concluded without consent of both Houses of Parliament of England Another 19. Feb. WE desire to know whether any Peace or Cessation of Armes CLXV in Ireland be consented unto by His Majestie and for what time and whether any Commission be now on foote or other authority given by His Majestie for that purpose The King's Commissioners Answer to both 20. February CLXVI TO your Lordships * Which were the two next precedent Papers sixt and seventh Papers delivered to us yesterday concerning any Peace or Cessation of Armes in Ireland your Lordships well know that long after the Warre begun in this Kingdom and the want of a supply from hence that a Cessation hath bin made with His Majesties consent and we conceive that the same expires in March next and we are confident there is no Peace made there But for the making a Peace or a farther Cessation we can give no farther answer till we may know whether there may be a blessed Peace made in England since if the miserable Civill Warrs shall continue in thâ— Kingdom we cannot conceive it possible for His Majestie by Force to reduce the Kingdom of Ireland or to preserve His Protestant Subjects there without a Peace or Cessation Their Reply 20. Febr. WE conceive your Lordships have given no answer to us whether CLXVII any Commission be now on foot or other authority given by His Majestie for any Peace or Cessation of Armes in Ireland other then that which determines in March next nor to our desire that no Cessation of Armes or Peace in Ireland may be Treated upon or concluded without consent of both Houses of the Parliament of England nor do we understand why your Lordships should delay your answer herein till the Peace in England be concluded since it hath bin so clearly manifested to your Lordships by the true meaning of the Act passed by His Majestie this Parliament that His Majestie can make no Peace nor Cessation without the consent of the two Houses and that your Lordships satisfactory answer to this and our other demands concerning Ireland will much conduce to the setling the Peace of this Kingdom we therefore again desire your Lordships full and clear answer to the particulars expressed in our sixt and seventh papers yesterday delivered to your Lordships The King's Commissioners Answer 20. Febr. WE do not hold our selves any wayes obliged to answer CLXVIII your Lordships demand whether any Commission be on foot or other authority from His Majesty for a Peace or Cessation of Armes in Ireland that question not arising upon any Propositions on His Majesties part yet for your Lordships satisfaction we do again assure you we do not know there is any Peace or Cessation made there other then that which determines in March next But what Commission the Marquesse of Ormond as
Lievtenant of Ireland or Gâ—nerall of the Forces there hath to that purpose we do not know and therefore cannot inform your Lordships And as to the other particulars in that paper we do * The two Papers following no. 171 172. were delivered in before this Paper and the reference is to them and others formerly delivered on that subject refer our selves to the answers formerly given in to your Lordships demands touching that subject with this that we do conceive it to be most clear that His Majesty is in no wise restrained by expresse words or by the meaning of any Act made this Parliament from making a Peace or a Cessation in Ireland without the consent of the two Houses Their Paper 19. Feb. THere being but 3 dayes left to Treat upon the Propositions CLXIX for Religion the Militia and for Ireland and for that your Lordships have given no satisfactory answers to our dâ—mands concerning them we therefore now desire to confer with your Lordships how to dispose of the 3 dayes yet remaining that we may receive your Lordships full and clear answers thereunto The King's Commissioners Answer 19. February WE see no cause why your Lordships should think our CLXX Answers upon the Propositions for Religion and the Militia were not satisfactory And for that of Ireland we have received many Papers from your Lordships concerning that businesse besides the Propositions themselves to all which we doubt not to give a full and cleare Answer to your Lordships to morrow being the time assigned and the last day of the Treaty upon that subject * See the Paper 20. Feb. no. 192. touching His Majesties returne to Westminster After we shall be ready to conferre with your Lordships of disposing the remainder of the time Accordingly after the before mentioned Demands and Answer thereunto of the 19th of February the King's Commissioners in Answer to theirs of the 18th of February No. 149. delivered in this Paper 20. February VVE have already told your Lordships how farre we CLXXI. are from being satisfied by what you have alleadged against His Majesties Power to make a Cessation with the Rebells in Ireland neither have your Lordships in any degree answered the important reasons which induced His Majesty so to doe it being very evident that by the Cessation there His Majesties Protestant Subjects have been preserved and subsisted which without it they could not have done the two Houses forbearing to send any reliefe or supply to them and His Majesty not being able And we desire your Lordships to consider how impossible it was whilest the Warre continued in England with such fiercenesse and animosity by Armes to reduce the Kingdom of Ireland to His Majesties Obedience and therefore His Majesty had great reason to preserve that by a Cessation which He could not reduce by a Warre And we are most confident that the necessities which are not offered as excuses for but were the reall grounds of the Cessation were very visible to all those in that Kingdome whose advices His Maiesty ought in reason to follow and whose interests were most concerned and would not have given such advice if any â—ther way could have been found out to preserve them And we have been credibâ—y iâ—formed that the Committee sent into Ireland which His Maiesty never understood to be sent thither to supply the necessities but to observe the Actions of His Maiesties Ministers there having in their â—ourney thither signed Warrants in their owne names to apprehend the Persons of Pecres of this Realme and Persons of His Maiesties Privy Councell were never discountenanced there for His Maiesties directions that Persons who were not of His Privy Councell there should not be present at those Councells cannot be interpreted a discountenance to them in any thing they ought to doe And we are most assured that His Maiesty sent no Message or Letter to divert the course of the Officers Subscribing for Land in satisfaction of their Arreares but the Souldiers were meerly discouraged from the same by discerning that for want of Supplies they should not be able to goe on with that Warre And we doe assure your Lordships that His Majesty doth not beleeve that the Summes of Money raised for Ireland which your Lordships doe admit to have been made use of by both Houses of Parliament otherwise then was appointed are yet satisfied in any proportion the greatest part of the Money raised upon the Bill for 400000l and of the Moneys raised upon the charitable Collections as well as the Adventurers Moneys being imployed upon the Warre here And if the same were since satisfied it doth no wayes excuse the diverting of them when in the meane time that Kingdome suffered by that divertion And that the feare that other moneys so raised might likewise be misimployed was a great reason amoâ—gst others that made His Majesty not consent to that Bill mentioned by your Lordships And for the Regiments of Horse and Foot which your Lordships in your Paper of the 18th of this month say were designed for Ireland though they were imployed otherwise because a Commission could not be obtained for the Lord Wharton who was to Command those Forces It is well knowne that those Forces were raised before His Majesties Commission was so much as desired and then the Commission that was desired should have been independent upon His Majesties Lievrenant of that Kingdome and therefore His Maiesty had great reason not to consent to such a Commission and so the damages of keeping those six Pinnaces and the 1000 Land Forces if any such were proceeded not from any default of His Majesty And for the Provisions seized by His Maiesties Forces it is notorious that they were seized in the way to and neare Coventrey and that it was not made knowne to His Majesty that the same were for Ireland till after the seizure thereof when it was impossible to recover the same from the Souldiers who had taken them Whereas if a safe Conduct had been desired by His Majesty as it ought to have been the same being to passe through his Quarters there would have been no Violence or Interruption offered For the giving the Names of the Persons who subscribed the Letters delivered to your Lordships the Originalls of which have been shewed to you by us We have given your Lordships a full and reasonable Answer and if your Lordships will assure us that the giving their names to you shall be no prejudice to the Persons who did subscribe if at any time any of them shall be found within your Quarters we will forthwith deliver their names to you otherwise we conceive your Lordships cannot but give credit to that We have said and shewed to you all which we hope hath clearly satisfied your Lordships that the Cessation with the Rebels was neither unjust or unlawfull and that you will proceed to satisfie us by what meanes the Warre may be managed in Ireland with probable hope of the
That their Commissioners should have Instructions to Treat upon them Instructions concerning His Majesties Propositions for setling a safe and well grounded Peace And if you have any touching the same we desire to have a sight of them Their Answer I. Feb. WE have not yet received Instructions concerning His CLXXXI Maiesties Propositions and shall therefore acquaint the Lords and Commons Assembled in the Parliament of England with the desires expressed in that Paper who having taken those Instructions into their consideration before our comming from them will send them to us in time convenient After upon the third of February His Majesties Commissioners delivered this Paper concerning His Majesties sixt Proposition for a Cessation of Armes 3. February WE desire to know whether your Lordships have received CLXXXII any Instructions concerning that Proposition of His Majesties for a Cessation and if your Lordships have not received any that you will endeavour to procure Authority to Treat thereupon which we have power to doe and conceive it very necessary that during the time we are endeavourinâ— to establish a blessed and happy Peace the issues of blood may be stopped in this miserable Kingdom and His Maiesties oppressed and Languishing Subjects have some earnest and prospect of the Peace we are endeavouring by Gods blessing to procure for them To this no particular Answer was given The King's Commissioners Paper 10. February HAving now spent three daies severally upon each of CLXXXIII your Lordships three Propositions concerning Religion the Militia and Ireland we desire to know whether your Lordships have received any instructions concerning His Majesties Propositions that we may prepare our selves to Treat upon them when your Lordships shall think fit Their Answer 11. Feb. VVE have received Instructions concerning His Maiesties CLXXXIV Propositions And when the Houses of Parliament shall be satisfied in the good Progresse of the Treaty upon their Propositions concerning Religion the Militia and Ireland they will give time for the Treaty upon those Propositions sent by His Maiesty But there was not any time given to Treat upon His Majesties Propositions Touching further time for continuing or reviveing the Treaty and His Majesties Returne to Westminster after Disbanding those Papers were delivered The King's Commissioners Paper 14. Febr. VVE have this day received directions from His Majesty CLXXXV to move your Lordships that you will endeavour to procure an addition of time for this Treaty after the expiration of the daies limited for the same upon the reasons mentioned in His Majesties Letter which Letter we herewith deliver to your Lordships The Letter mentioned in the last Paper from His Majesty to His Commissioners is this RIght Trusty c. Having received from you a CLXXXVI particular accompt of your proceedings in the Treaty and observing thereby how impossible it is within the daies limited to give such full Answers to the three Propositions you are now upon as you might if upon Consideration had of the rest of the Propositions you could clearely see what fruit such Answers will produce in order to a blessed Peace for the present and the future good and happinesse of this Kingdom We have thought it fit to advise you That you propose and desire of the Commissioners with whom you Treat that they will procure such farther time to be allowed after the expiration of the Twenty daies as may be sufficient for you upon a full understanding one of another upon the whole to make such a Conclusion that all Our Subjects may reap the Benefit good men pray for Deliverance from these bloody distractions and be united in Peace and Charity And if you think fit you may communicate this Our Letter to them And so we bid you heartily farewell Given at Our Court at Oxford 13. Feb. 1644. By His MAJESTIES Command GEORGE DIGBY To Our Right Trusty c. the Lords and others Our Commissioners for the Treaty at Vxbridge Their Answer 14. Feb. COncerning the paper delivered by your Lordships for addition CLXXXVII of time for the Treaty We can give no other answer then that we will send Copies of His Maiesties Letter and of the paper unto the Houses of Parliament and after signification of their pleasure we will give further answer Afterwards on the 18th of Feb. they delivered this paper 18. February YOur Lordships may please to take notice that in the 20 dayes CLXXXVIII appointed to Treat upon the Propositions concerning Religion Militia and Ireland the first Thursday and three Sundayes are not to be included The King's Commissioners paper 20. February BY our paper delivered to your Lordships the 14th of this CLXXXIX moneth we moved your Lordships to endeavour an addition of time for this Treaty after the expiration of the dayes limited for the same upon the reasons mentioned in His Majesties Letter which letter we then delivered to your Lordships whereunto your Lordships then returned answer that you would send Copies of His Majesties Letter and of our paper to the Houses of Parliament and after signification of their pleasure you would give farther Answer we now desire to know whether there may be an addition of time for this Treaty after the expiration of the dayes limited for the same upon the reasons mentioned in His Maiesties said letter and what time may be added Their Answer 20. Feb. YOur Lordships paper of the 14th of this moneth for an addition CXC of time for this Treaty together with His Maiesties Letter concerning the same were sent by us to the Houses of Parliament who * See their Paper before 11. February no. 185. as we have already acquainted your Lordships have declared That if they shall be satisfied in the good progresse of the Treaty upon the Propositions concerning Religion the Militia and Ireland will give time for the Treaty upon the Propositions by His Majesty but farther then this have not as yet signified their pleasures unto us The King's Commissioners Paper 20. February HAving now spent 18 dayes with your Lordships in the CXCI. Treaty upon Religion the Militia and Ireland besides the present satisfaction we have given your Lordships in those particulars we having offered that further consideration and order be taken therein by His Majestie and the two Houses of Parliament and your Lordships having proposed many important things in the said severall particulars to be framed setled disposed by the two Houses before a full Agreement can be established we propose to your Lordships whether the two dayes remaining may not be best spent towards the satisfying your Lordships in those 3 Propositions and the procuring a speedy blessed Peace upon finding out some expedient for His Majesties repaire to Westminster that so all differences may be composed and this poor Kingdom be restored to it's Ancient happines and security and to that purpose if your Lordships shall think fit we are willing to Treat with your Lordships concerning the best meanes whereby all
Armies being first disbanded His Maiestie may with honour freedom and safety be present with his two Houses of Parliament at Westminster To which two particulars that is first concerning the Disbanding all Armies and then for His Majesties speedy repayre and residing at VVestminster with Honour Freedom and safety We shall if your Lordships think fit apply our selves and accordingly to morrow will be ready to deliver to your Lordships some Propositions upon that subject And if your Lordships shall concurre with us herein we hope it will be a good inducement to procure an addition of time to this Treaty according to His Majesties Proposition in his late Letter to Vs which we delivered to your Lordships Their Paper 20 Feb. VVE shall according to mutuall agreement between His Majesty CX CII and the two Houses of the Parliament of England and the Commissioners for the Parliament of Scotland Treat these two remaining dayes upon the three Propositions for Religion the Militia and Ireland and shall be glad to receive satisfaction in them from your Lordships as the best expedient for procuring a speedy and blessed Peace that the Armies may be disbanded and the happinesse of His Maiesties presence may againe be enjoyed by those who have nothing more in their prayers and endeavours then by His Maiesties coniunction with his Parliament to see all these sad differences composed and these distracted Kingdomes restered to their Ancient happinesse and security Accordingly we shall be ready to begin againe to morrow upon the Propositions for Religion and receive what your Lordships will propose and being satisfied upon that and the other two Propositions we are confident we shall have further time given us to Treat upon such other particulars as shall be necessary for the attaining of those ends we all desire There was no other Answer given concerning His Majesties Commissioners desire to Treat touching His returne to Westminster and Disbanding Armies whereupon His Majesties Commissioners delivered this Paper 20. February VVE conceive that the reasons why your Lordships doe CXCIII not give us any Answer to our Paper concerning the Treating for the disbanding all Armies and for His Majesties comming to Westminster may be because you have no authority by your Instructions so to doe though we proposed the same to your Lordships and doe still conceive it most conducing to the conclusion of the Propositions upon Religion the Militia and Ireland upon which we have Treated And we therefore desire your Lordships that you will endeavour to have your Instructions so enlarged that we may Treat upon so important and necessary an expedient for the publique Peace In the mean time we shall be ready to receive whatsoever your Lordships please to propose in the businesse of Religion presuming that if your Lordships are not satisfied with our Answer therein in which we have applyed remedies to whatsoever hath ever been complained of as a grievance in the present Government of the Church that your Lordships will make it appeare * See their Paper no. 68. referring to this that the Government by Bishops is unlawfull or that the Government you intend to introduce in the roome thereof is the only Government that is agreeable to the word of God either of which being made evident to us we shall immediately give your Lordships full satisfaction in that you propose The King's Commissioners Paper 22. February BY our paper delivered to your Lordships 1. February we CXCIV did desire to know whether your Lordships have any Instructions concerning His Majesties Propositions for setling a safe and well grounded Peace And by our paper of the third of Feb. we did desire to know whether your Lordships had received any Instructions concerning that Proposition of His Majesty for a Cessation and if your Lordships had not received any that you would endeavour to procure authority to Treat thereupon And by our Paper of the 10th of Feb. we did desire to know whether your Lordships had received any Instructions concerning His Majesties Propositions that we might prepare our selves to Treat upon them when your Lordships should think fit And by our paper delivered to your Lordships 14th Feb. we moved your Lordships upon directionâ— received from His Majesty that you would endeavour to procure an addition of time for this Treaty after the expiration of the dayes limited for the same upon the reasons mentioned in His Majesties Letter which Letter we then delivered to your Lordships And by our Paper delivered to your Lordships the 20th of this month we moved your Lordships to endeavour an addition of time for this Treaty after the expiration of the dayes limited for the same upon the reasons mentioned in His Maiesties said Letter to which we have not yet received full Answer Nor have we yet had any notice from your Lordships whether the two Houses of Parliament have given any further time for this Treaty And having hitherto according to the order prescribed us Treated onely upon the three first heads of Religion the Militia and Ireland and the twenty dayes expiring this day we againe desire to know whether there is any addition of time granted for this Treaty our safe Conduct being but for two dayes longer Their Answer 22. Feb. YOur Lordships Papers of the first third and tenth of Feb. CXCV. whether we had any Instructions concerning His Majesties Propositions and power to Treat for a Cessation as also your Papers of the 14 and 20th of Feb. concerning His Majesties Letter for an addition of time to this Trenty with your Lordships desire thereupon have been by â—â— sent up to both Houses of Parliament from time to time as we received them together with our Answer given to them and in our Answers we have from time to time declared to your Lordships that when the Houses shall be satisfied in the good progresse of the Treaty upon their Propositions concerning Religion Militia and Ireland they will give an addition of time for the Treaty And we doe conceive that if your Lordships Answers to our Demands concerning Religion the Militia and Ireland had been such as to have given satisfaction in the good progresse of this Treaty mutually consented for twenty dayes upon the said Propositions we should have before this been enabled with power to continue the Treaty aswell upon his Majestie 's as the rest of the Propositions But your Lordships having not given full and satisfactory Answers concerning Religion the Militia and Ireland you cannot for the reasons above mentioned expect an addition of time neither have we received any Instructions to continue this Treaty longer then the twenty dayes of which this is the last And as for your Lordships safe Conduct we conceive the three Sundayes last past being not accompted any dayes of the Treaty so this next Sunday is not to be esteemed one of the two dayes allowed after the Treaty in your Lordships safe Conduct but your Lordships are to have two dayes besides this next
Enacted by the King 's most Excellent Majesty and the Lords and Commons in this present Parliament assembled and by the authority of the same that from and after the fifth day of November in the yeare of our Lord one Thousanâ— six Hundred fortie and three there shall be no Arch-Bishop Bishop Chancellour or Commissarie of any Arch-Bishop or Bishop nor any Deane Sub-Deane Deane and Chapter or Arch-Deacon nor any Chancellour Chaunter Treasurer Sub-Treaâ—urer Succentor or Sacrist of any Cathedrall or Collegiate Church nor any Prebendary Canon Canon-Residenciary Petty-Canon Vicar Chorall Choristers Old-Vicars or new-Vicars of or within any Cathedrall or Collegiate Church or any other their Officers within this Church of England or Dominion of Wales And that from and after the said fifth day of Novemb. the Name Title Dignity Iurisdiction Office and Function of Arch-Bishops Bishops their Chancellours and Commissaries Deanes Sub-Deanes Deanes and Chapters Arch-Deacons Canons and Prebendaries and all Chaunters Chauncellours Treasurers Sub-Treasurers Succentors and Sacrists and all Vicars Corall and Choristers old-Vicars and new-Vicars and every of them and likewise the having using or exercising of any Power Iurisdiction Office or Authority by reason or colour of any such Name Title Dignity office or Function within this Realme of England or Dominion of Wales shall thenceforth cease determine and become absolutely voyd and shall be abolished out of this Realme and the Dominion of Wales any Vsage Law or Statute to the conâ—rary in any wise notwithstanding And that from and after the said fifth day of November no Person or Persons whatsoever by virtue of any Letters Patents Commission or other authority derived from the Kings Majestie His Heires or Successors shall use or exercise any Iurisdiction Ecclesiasticall within this Realme or Dominion of Wales but such and in such manner as shall be appointed and established by Act of Parliament And that all Counties Palatine Mannors Lordships Castles Granges Messuages Mills Lands Tenements Meadows Leasues Pastures Woods Rents Reversions Services Parks Annuitiâ—s Franchises Liberties Priviledges Immunities Rights Rights of Action and of Entrie Interests Titles of Entrie Conditions Commons Courts-Leete and Courts-Baron and all other Possessions and Herediments whatsoever of what nature or quality soever they be or wheresoever they lie or be other then Impropriations Parsonages Appropriats Tithes Oblations Obventions Pention Portions of Tithes Parsonages Vicarages Churches Chappâ—ls Advowsons Nominations Collations Rights of Patronage and Presentation which now are or lately were of or belonging unto any Arch-Bishop Bishop Arch-bishâ—prick or Bishopâ—iâ—k or any of them or which they or any of them held or injoyâ—d in right of their said Arch-bishâ—prick or Bishoprick respectively shall by the authority of Parliament be vested adjudged and deemed to be and shall be in the very real and actuall possession and seisin of the Kings Majesty His Heires and Successors And shall have hold possesse and enioy the same to Him His Heires and Successors without any Entrie or other Act whatsoever and that the Kings Maiestic His Heires and Successors His and their Lessees Farmers and Tenants shall hold anâ—â—nâ—oy the same discharged and acquitted of payment of Tithes as fâ—eely and in as large ample and beneficiall meanes to all intents and purposes as any Arch-Bishop or Bâ—shop at any time or times within the space of two yeares last past held or injoyed or of right ought to have held or inioyed the same Provided neverthelesse and be it enacted by the authority aforesaid that all Leases Grants Guifts Letters Patents Conveyances Assurances or Estates whatsoever hereafter to be made by the Kings Maiestie His Heires or Successors of any the Mannors Lands Tenements Hereditaments which in or by this Act shall come or be limited or disposed of unto His Maiestie His Heires or Successors other then for the Terme of one and twenty yeares or three Lives or some other Terme of yeares determinable upon one two or three Lives and not above from the time as any such Lease or Grant shall be made or granted whereupon the accustomed yearely Rent or more shall be reserved and payable yearely during the said Terme And whereof any former Lease is in being not to be expired surrendred or ended within three yeares after the making of any such new Lease shall be utterly voyd and of none effect to all intents constructions and purposes any clause or words of non obstante to be put in any such Patent Graunt Conveyance or Assurance and any Law Vsage Custome or any thing in this Act to the contrary in any wise notwithstanding And be it further Enacted and Ordained that all Impropriations Parsonages Appropriate Tithes Oblations Obventions Portions of Tithes Parsonages Vicaridges Churches Chappels Advowsons Nominations Collations rights of Patronage and Presentation which now are or lately were belonging unto any Arch-Bishop or Bishop Arch-bishoprick or Bishoprick And all Mannors Castles Lordships Granges Messuages Mills Lands Tenements Meadowes Pastures Woods Rents Reversions Services Parsonages Appropriate Tithes Oblations Obventions Pensions Portions of Tithes Parsonages Vicaridges Churches Chappels Advowsons Nominations rights of Patronage and Presentation Parkes Arnuities Franchises Liberties Priviledges Immunities Rights Rights of Action and of Entrie Interests Titles of Entire Conditions Commons Courts Leete and Courts Baron and all other Possessions and Hereditaments whatsoever of what nature or quality soever they be or wheresoever they lie or be which now are or lately were of or belonging to any Sub-Deane Deane Deane and Chapter Arch-Deacon Chanter Chancellor Treasurer Sub Treasurer Succentor Sacrist Prebendary Cannon Cannon Residentiaâ—ie Petty-Cannon Vicars Chorall Choristers old Vicâ—rs and â—ew Vicars or any of them or any of the Officers of them or any of them which they held or inioyed in right of their said Dignities Churches Corporations Offices or Places respectively shall by Authority of this present Parliament be Vested Adjudged and deemed to be and shall be in the very reall and actuall Possession and Seisin of Sr William Roberts Knight Thomas Atkins Sr Wollaston Iohn Warner Iohn Towes Aldermen of the City of London Iohn Packer Esquire Peter Malborne Esquire and they shall have hold possesse and enioy the same to them their Heires and Assignes without any Entrie or other Act whatsoever and that for themselves their Lessees Farmers and Tennants discharged and acquitted of payment of Tithes as freely and in as large ample and beneficiall manner to all Intents and Purposes as any of the Persons or Corporations whose offices or places are taken away by this Act at any time or times within the space of two yeares now last past held or enjoyed or of right ought to have held or enjoyed the same In trust and Confidence neverthelesse and to the intent and purpose that they the said Sir William Roberts Knight Thomas Atkins Sir Iohn Wolâ—aston Iohn Warner Iohn Towes Aldermen of the City of London Iohn Packer Esqu Peter Malborne Esqu and the Survivors and Survivor of them his and their heires Assignes shall satisfie
carefull Election they may by providing for the good of that now miserable Kingdome discharge their duty to God the King and their Country And certainly if it be necessary to reduce that Kingdome and that the Parliament of England be a faithfull Councell to His Majesty and fit to be trusted with the prosecution of that Warre which His Majesty was once pleased to put into their hands and they faithfully discharged their parts in it notwithstanding many practices to obstruct their proceedings as is set forth in severall Declarations of Parliament then we say your Lordships need not think it unreasonable that His Majesty should engage himselfe to passe such Acts as shall be presented to him for raising monyes and other necessaries for that Warre for if the Warre be necessary as never War was more that which is necessary for the maintaining of it must be had and the Parliament that doth undertake and manage it must needs know what will be necessary and the People of England who have trusted them with their Purse will never begrudge what they make them lay out upon that occasion Nor need His Majesty feare the Parliament will presse more upon the Subject then is fit in proportion to the occasion It is true that heretofore Persons about His Maiesty have endeavoured and prevailed too much in possessing him against the Parliament for not giving away the money of the Subiect when His Maiesty had desired it But never yet did His Maiesty restraine them from it and we hope it will not be thought that this is a fit occasion to begin We are very glad to find that your Lordships are so sensible in your expressions of the Bloud and horror of that Rebellion and it is without all question in His Majesties Power to do Justice upon it if your Lordships be willing that the Cessation and ali Treaties with those bloudy and unnaturall Rebels be made voyd and that the prosecution of the Warre be setled in the two Houses of the Parliament of England to be managed by the joynt advice of both Kingdomes and the King to assist and to doe no Act to discountenance or molest them therein This we dare affirme to be more then a probable course for the remedying those mischiefs and preserving the remainder of His Maiesties good Subiects there We cannot believe your Lordships will think it fit there can be any Agreement of Peace any respight from hostility with such Creatures as are not fit to live no more then with Wolves or Tygers or any ravennous Beasts destroyers of mankind And we beseech you doe not think it must depend upon the condition of His Maiesties other Kingdomes to revenge or not revenge Gods quarrell upon such perfidious Enemies to the Gospell of Christ who have imbrued their hands in so much Protestant bloud but consider the Cessation that is made with them is for their advantage and rather a protection than a Cessation of Acts of hostility as if it had been all of their owne contriving Armes Ammunition and all manner of Commodities may be brought unto them and they may furnish themselves during this Cessation and be assisted and protected in so doing that afterwards they may the better destroy the small remainder of His Maiesties Protestant Subjects We beseech your Lordships in the bowells of Christian charity and compassion to so many poor Soules who must perish if the strength of that raging Adversary be not broken and in the Name of him who is the Prince of Peace who hates to be at Peace with such shedders of Bloud give not your consents to the continuation of this Cessation of Warre in Ireland and lesse to the making of any Peace there till Justice have been fully executed upon the Actors of that accursed Rebellion Let not the Judgement of Warre within this Kingdome which God hath layed upon us for our sinnes be encreased by so great a finne as any Peace or friendship with them whatsoever becomes of us if we must perish yet let us goe to our graves with that comfort that we have not made Peace with the Enemies of Christ yea even Enemies of mankind declared and unreconciled Enemies to our Religion and Nation Let not our Warre be a hindrance to that Warre for we are sure that Peace will be a hindrance to our Peace We desire Warre there as much as we doe Peace here for both we are willing to lay out our Estates our Lives and all that is deare unto us in this World and we have made Propositions unto your Lordships for both if you were pleased to agree unto them We can but look up to God Almighty beseech him to oncline your hearts and casting our selves on him wait his good time for the returne of our Prayers in setling a safe and happy Peace here and giving successe to our Endeavours in the prosecution of the Warre of Ireland It had been used by the Commissioners during the Treaty that when Papers were delivered in of such length and so late at night that present particular answers could not be given by agreement between themselves to accept the answers the next day dated as of the day before although they were Treating of another Subject And these two last papers concerning Ireland being of such great length and delivered about twelve of the clock at night when the Treaty in time was expiring so an no answer could be given without such consent and agreement Therefore the King's Commissioners delivered in this Paper 22. February YOur Lordships cannot expect a particular answer from us CLXXIX this night to the two long Papers concerning Ireland delivered to us by your Lordships about twelve of the clock this night but since there are many particulars in those Papers to which if they had been before mentioned we could have given your Lordships full satisfaction And for that we presume your Lordships are very willing to be satisfied in those particulars which so highly reflect upon His Majesty we desire your Lordships to receive the Answers which we shall prepare to those papers in the evening to Morrow dated as of this night and we doubt not to give your Lordships cleare satisfaction therein This desire was not granted nor any Paper delivered in answer to it but soon after the Treaty broke off During the 20. daies Treaty upon Religion Militia and Ireland the particular passages whereof are before expressed some other passages did occurre concerning His Majesties Propositions and particularly for a * It is the sixt of His Majesties Propositions Cessation and touching His Majesties returne to Westminster after disbanding of Armies and further time for continuing or renewing the Treaty which doe here follow And first touching His Majesties Propositions the Kings Commissioners delivered in this Paper the second day of the Treaty I. February WE desire to know whether your Lordships have any CLXXX See His Majesties Propositions n o 8. And the Letter from the Earle of Essex n o 9.