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A38261	The proceedings in the House of Commons, touching the impeachment of Edward, late Earl of Clarendon, Lord High-Chancellour of England, Anno 1667 with the many debates and speeches in the House, the impeachment exhibited against him, his petition in answer thereto : as also the several weighty arguments concerning the nature of treason, bribery, &c. by Serj. Maynard, Sir Ed. S., Sir T.L., Mr. Vaughan, Sir Rob. Howard, Mr. Hambden [sic], and other members of that Parliament : together with the articles of high-treason exhibited against the said Earl, by the Earl of Bristol in the House of Lords on the 10th of July, 1663 : with the opinion of all the learned judges therein.	England and Wales. Parliament. House of Commons.; Clarendon, Edward Hyde, Earl of, 1609-1674.; Vaughan, John, Sir, 1603-1674.; Seymour, Edward, Sir, 1633-1708.; Littleton, Thomas, Sir, d. 1681.; Hampden, Richard, 1631-1695.; Maynard, John, Sir, 1602-1690.; Howard, Robert, Sir, 1626-1698.; England and Wales. Parliament. House of Lords.	1700 (1700)	Wing E2683; ESTC R3660	65,855	176

the Law of Parliaments the Lords pressed the Law of the Land by way of Negative as if the Law of the Land were otherwise but rather than that shall be any obstruction put it by Law Mr. Stew. Leave out the Words by Law for if a Man be secured it is Implyed by them who do Commit that it is according to Law Then it being Moved to draw both Votes in one Sir Tho. Litt. Tho' you should put both Votes into one It will not Answer your end for the Lords will not Concur with the first Part and yet may make use of what Part you grant of it that is the last and so have advantage against you but there is another Reason why you should forbear these Votes Namely Prudence The Earl of Clarendon being gone there is an expectation that a Bill should be prepared to do something farther wherein I hope both Houses will join if you send up this you will give disturbance to that Bill and if you should enter this in your Books in Order to send it up hereafter they will hear of it as done to make them swallow their former Resolves Therefore defer it for the present Mr. Trev. Consider whether the Matter hetwixt you and the Lords is not well as it is You have Voted That when a Man is generally Impeached he ought to be secured and that the Lords not having done it is an obstruction to Justice and what will it signifie to carry it to the Lords what hath since fal'n out justifies you and lays the disadvantage upon the Lords The World expects now what you will do farther and that must be by Concurring with the Lords Sir Tho. Cliff We all agree to these Votes in Order to justifie your Rights but what is the use of it You have already done it in your Books and you cannot expect the Lords should go so much against their own Votes this therefore will but widen the Gap it being telling them they must eat their words Sir Tho. Litt. Those who have had a hand in the charge against the Earl of Clarendon have been thought sometimes too Violent sometimes too Remiss as not able to make out the Charge But what I speak now is for your Honour which will be wrong'd in this Proceeding I am for bringing the Impeachment to something and therefore against these Votes Now you make a Declaration of your own Rights and Enter it upon your Books that not only the Vote may appear but the Ground of it but not to declare to the Lords which will beget an Answer and exasperate It is now unseasonable to make the Lords retract therefore lay it aside for tho' I am confident that Gentleman did it to no such end yet if I would Design any Thing to the Earl of Clarendon's advantage I could not take a better way than this Mr. Vaugh. This is but the affirming all which hath a been done already and I am for none of those who are contriving for any Thing out of the House Sir Will. Covent This Question is not now seasonable tho' it is a better expedient than the Declaration as Things now stand and considering what hath past I am apt to think the Lords may do it of their own accord and you would not willingly have a Negative to your Votes Therefore seeing your Votes may be of use hereafter put no Question at all but adjourn the Debate to a proper Season Mr. Vaugh. I am against the Adjourning of it and have given Testimony that I have done nothing to be thought to do that which is so much for the advantage of the Earl of Clarendon and shall take heed of doing any Thing hereafter to be so reflected on Sir Tho. Litt. I hope I avoided any such Reflection nor speak any Thing to such purpose I do not beleive nor ever did think any such Thing and hope that Gentleman himself believes that no Man in this House hath more Honour for him than I. Sir Iob Charle Let the World see that you do not intend to restrain your proceedings to the Earl of Clarendon but make it a general Care and therefore are concerned in Honour to put the Question Resolved upon the Question That the Question be put Resolved That both the Questions propounded by Mr. Vaugh. and put singly in the Affirmative be carryed up to the Lords December 13. A Bill was brought from the Lords to Banish the Earl of Clarendon and read After reading several Objections being made and it being Alledged that it was an abuse put upon the Commons by the Lords and that a Bill of Attainder being propounded after some Debate the House pass'd this Vote Resolved That this House taking notice of the flight of the Earl of Clarendon being under an Impeachment of High Treason by this House the King's Majesty be humbly desired to Issue out his Proclamation for Summoning the said Earl to appear by a Day and to apprehend him in Order to his Tryal Resolved To send to the Lords for their Concurrence to this Vote December 14. A Message from the Lords for a Conference at which they delivered two Reasons why they could not Concur 1. First for that they conceive a Proclamation in the way proposed would be ineffectual since it is not supaena Convictionis which cannot be till particulars in Order to Tryal be declared 2. That what the House of Commons hath proposed and do propose at present is intended in Order to a judicial way of Proceeding but since the Earl of Clarendon's Flight their Lordships upon Consideration of the whole State of Affairs and of the Kingdom have upon Grounds of Prudence and Iustice thought fit for securing of King and Kingdom to proceed in a Legislative way against the said Earl and haue to that end past and sent down to them a Bill of Banishment and Incapacity against him with which this Vote is inconsistent December 16. The said Reasons from the Lord being Reported and Considered and it being Moved that the House would declare themselve unsatisfied with them Sir Tho. Cliff I am against passing a Vote at present upon the Lords Reasons but read the Bill sent down from thence and Summons him by it to appear by a Day Mr. Trev. Some are against the Bill because it goes too far Condemning before Hearing others would have it to go farther Summons is in Order to Hearing Tryal and Judgment of those he hath made himself incapable by Flight and hath in his Paper told you That he will neither be heard nor tryed by you Tho' you expected to have him secured by a general Accusation yet you never expected Judgment upon it Then it is said This Banishment falls short of Treason but we are not to pass Sentence for Crimes but as a Council propound to the King what is necessary in this Case Then consider whether this Bill will Answer our Ends and if it doth delay will make it worse I think we should make it reach them

Articles read and Voted Fifteenth Article read Lord Vaugh. I brought in this Article His Betraying the King's Councels was to the French King during the War and that in the secrecy of State which was the occasion of the late Mischiefs Sir Tho. Osb. That is direct adhering to the King's Enemies and so it is Treason Mr. Sollicit This must be Treason if you have any inducement to believe it Sir Rob. How I have heard it from an Eye-Witness who told it me and added that we are neither to be trusted nor dealt with who were so betrayed Serj. Mayn Betraying the King's Councel to his Enemies is doubtless Treason Corresponding is another Thing Betraying must be without the King's Knowledge otherwise it is but delivering the King's Words to his Enemies Sir Iohn Bramp Did this Information come from a Subject or from one of the King's Enemies Sir Rob. How I would not have brought you Information from one of the King's Enemies nor did I ever converse with them during the War Coll. Birch We cannot accuse of Treason except it be said Betraying the King's Councel or Corresponding with his Enemies Mr. Vaugh. You have declared that you have had inducement to Impeach and ought to put the Question whether on this Article he shall be Impeached of Treason Mr. Sollicit To betray the King's Councel taken generally is not Treason for it may be to the King's Friends but to his Enemies it is If the Article be so Lord Vaugh. Let it be put betraying His Majesty's secret Councels to his Enemies during the War Then the Question was put whether these New Words delivered by the said Lord Vaugh. should be added Carryed in the Affirmative Sir Iohn Holl. Was this Information given by an Enemy or by a Subject Mr. Vaugh. It must come from a Forreigner or you could not know it may not the King have from a Forreigner a discovery of Treason against him The end of questioning it must be to know the Man for it might as well be asked whether his Beard be red or black Sir Tho. M rs The words are discovered not betrayed and discovering may be with the King's consent Lord Vaugh. Add the word Betraying for so I meant it Serj. Mayn They who give the Information say not they had it from more than one Witness which Stat. Ed. 6. requires and only one of them Names the Earl of Clarendon Mr. Seym. This exception is proper to be made before the Judges Then the Question was put Whether to Impeach of Treason on this Article Yeas 161. Noes 89. 250. Sir Tho. Litt. That an Impeachment of Treason and other Crimes and Misdemeanours be carryed up to the Lords against him by Mr. Scym Serj. Mayn For Misdemeanour he may have Councel not for Treason Therefore so distinguish the Charge that he may have Councel Resolved That a Charge be carryed up Resolved That the Speaker and the whole House carry it Novvember 12. It being considered that if the Speaker go up with the Charge some dispute might arise about carrying the Mace and otherwise It was Resolved That Mr. Seym. carry it Accordingly he went where at the Bar of the Lords House the Lord-keeper Bridgman being come to the Bar to meet him he delivered himself to this purpose My Lords THE Commons Assembled in Parliment having been informed of several Traiterous Practices and other high Crimes and Misdemeanours commited by Edward Earl of Clarendon a Member of this Honourable House have Commanded me to Impeach him and I do accordingly Impeach him of High-Treason and other Crimes and Misdemeanours in the Name of the said Commons and of all the Commons of England And they have farther Commanded me to desire your Lordships to Sequester him from Parliament and to Commit him to safe Custody and in convenient time they will exhibit Articles against him November 15. The Lords sent down to desire a Conference in the Painted Chamber At which the Earl of Oxford delivered a Paper in writing without any Debate the Contents whereof were to this effect The Lords have not Committed the Earl of Clarendon becase the Accusation is only of Treason in general without charging any thing in particular Mr. Garra I had rather the House should loose the Punishment of this Man tho' a great Offender then that this House should loose its priviledge for if this House may at no time Impeach a Lord without giving in particular Articles it may fall out to be at a time as in the Duke of B s Case where a great Man by his Interest with the King procured the Dissolution of the Parliament and then the Accusation falls Mr. Vaugh. Either you can justifie your Proceedings so as to satisfie the Lords what you have done or you cannot you must name a Committee as well to consider what you are to do if your Reasons satisfie not as to draw those Reasons Mr. Sollicitor Without doubt this House was not mistaken in demanding that the Party accused for Treason should be committed That is that Treason is worthy of Commitment and you can but find Presidents that Persons have been accused of Treason and thereupon have been committed But the Case is this Treason is an Offence for which Bail cannot be taken the Lords tell you not they will or will not Commit But it is true Persons have been Committed for Treason and Persons accused of Treason Judges may Commit or not Consider this Law Let the Crime be what it will an Imprisoning till the Charge it given is but an Imprisoning to security not to Punishment otherwise the Law is not Just and if the Judges of the Kings-Bench have a Judgment of Discretion whether to Commit or not can we wonder that the Lords have not Imprisoned till they know the Article when they have Judgments of Discretion tho' they knew it You may find Presidents but it is not an Argument it must always be so But as the Judges have a Latitude much more then the Lords the Impeachment from the Commons of England is properly the King's Suit for there is no Treason but against him and if the Judges may Bail in that Case may not the Lords But you are not told he shall be Balied but they desire to know what his Crime is and then you shall know their Answer the Resolution seems reasonable having gone no farther I cannot except against it Sir Tho. Litt. The Long-Parliament had some good Presidents which we are not to cast away least we smart for it Resolved To Resume the Debate to Morrow Nov. 16. Mr. Vaugh. The Lords do not say Commitments should follow because Treason is Bailable by the Kings-Bench its true the Kings-Bench Bails for Treason but how If Persons be brought thither for Treason directly there is no Bail but when a Commitment is by the Councel Table for suspition of Treason then if the Matter fall not be to what was expected they give notice to take Bail else the great Article of the Great Charter

Bill because you are Confirming what the Lords have done Mr. Vaug. Many Men wonder that no Reason is given for passing this Bill but the Question is mistaken the Bill is grounded upon his Flight after his Impeachment and his flying Implys some Guilt if none it is the safest Argument for any Man to run away and then there is nothing to catch him A Proclamation to a Man out of the Kingdom signifies nothing But in the whole it is plain that he saith that finding the King's Justice obstructed in Parliament he is fled Obj. But it will be said upon bare Flight never was any Man Punished Answ. If one Man kills another and flies tho' upon his Tryal he shall be acquitted yet he shall never recover his Goods because of his Flight There has been several Acts of Banishment Spencer c. And in this is something more severe than in them Namely that none shall Correspond with him then there is some advantage Namely that if he come in by the First of February all shall be void but when the Crime is laid and his Flight makes him Guilty he ought not to have a Day Then the Question was put for passing the Bill 65 For it 42 Against it 107 And then the House Adjourned ARTICLES OF HIGH-TREASON And other Heinous MISDEMEANOURS Exhibited against Edward Earl of Clarendon Lord High-Chancellour of England in the House of Lords on the Ioth of Iuly 1663. By the Earl of Bristol 1. THAT being in Place of highess Trust and Confidence with His Majesty and having arrogated a Supream Direction in all His Majesty's Affairs both at Home and Abroad hath Wickedly and Maliciously and with a Traiterous Intent to draw Scandal and Contempt upon His Majesty's Person and to alienate from him the Affections of his Subjects abused the said Trust in manner following viz. That he hath Traiterously and maliciously endeavoured to Alienate the Hearts of His Hajesty's Subjects from him by words of his own and by artificial Insinuations of his Creatures and Dependances that His Majesty was inclined to Popery and had a Design to alter the Religion Established in this Kingdom That in pursuance of that Traiterous Intent he hath to several Persons of His Majesty's Privy-Council held Discourses to this effect viz. That His Majesty was dangerously corrupted in his Religion and inclined to Propery That Persons of that Religion had such Access and such Credit with him that unless there were a careful Eye had unto it the Protestant Religion would be overthrown in this Kingdom and in pursuance of the said Wicked and Traiterous Intent upon His Majesty's admitting Sir Henry Bennet to be Principal Secretary of State in the Place of Mr. Secretary Nicholas he hath said these words or words to this effect That His Majesty had given 10000l to remove a zealous Protestant that he might bring into that Place of High Trust a concealed Papist notwithstanding that the said Sir Henry Bennet is known to have ever been both in his Profession and Practice constant to the Protestant Religion That in pursuance of the same Traiterous Design several near Friends and known Dependances of his have said aloud that were it not for my Lord Chancellours standing in the Gap Popery would be introduced in this Kingdom or words to that effect That in pursuance of the aforesaid Traiterous Design he hath not only advised and perswaded the King to do such things contrary to his own Reasons and Resolutions as might confirm and encrease the Scandal which he had endeavoured to raise upon His Majesty as aforesaid of his favour to Popery but more particularly to allow his Name to be used to the Pope and several Cardinals in the sollicitation of a Cardinals Cap for the Lord Aubigney one of his own Subjects and great Almoner at present to his Royal Consort the Queen That in pursuance of the same Wicked and Traiterous Design he had recommended to be employed to the Pope one of his own Domesticks Mr. Rich. Bealing a Person tho an avow'd Papist known to be trusted and employed by him in Dispatches and Negotiations concerning Affairs of greatest Concernment to the Nation That in pursuance of the said Traiterous Design he being chief Minister of State did himself write by the said Mr. Rich. Bealing Letters to several Cardinals pressing them in the King's Name to induce the Pope to Confer a Cardinals Cap on the said Lord Aubigny promising in Case it should be attained exemption to the Roman Catholicks of England from the Penal Laws in force against them by which Address unto the Pope for that Ecclesiastical Dignity for one of His Majesty's Subjects and Domesticks he hath as far as from one Action can be inferred traiterously acknowledged the Popes Ecclesiastical Soveraignty contrary to the known Laws of this Kingdom That in pursuance of the same traiterous Design he has called unto him several Priests and Iesuits whom be knew to be Superiors of Orders here in England and desired them to write to their Generals at Rome to give their help for the obtaining from the Pope the Cardinals Cap for the Lord Aubigny as aforesaid promising great Favour to Papists here in Case it should be effected for him That he hath promised to several Papists he would do his endeavour and said he hoped to compass the taking away all Penal Laws against them which he did in pursuance of the traiterous Design aforesaid to the end they might presume and grow vain upon his Patronage and by their publishing their hopes of a Tolleration encrease the Scandal endeavoured by him and by his Emissaries to be raised upon His Majesty throughout the Kingdom That in pursuance of the same traiterous Design being intrusted with the Treaty betwixt His Majesty and His Royal Consort the Queen be concluded it upon Articles scandalous and dangerous to the Protestant Religion That in pursuance of the same traiterous Design he concluded the same Marriage and brought the King and Queen together without any settled Agreement in what manner the Rights of Marriage should be performed whereby the Queen refusing to be married by a Protestant Priest in case of her being with Child either the Succession should be made uncertain for want of the due Rights of Matrimony or else His Majesty to be exposed to a suspition of having been married in his own Dominions by a Romish Priest whereby all the former Scandals endeavoured to be raised upon His Majesty by the said Earl as to point of Popery might be confirmed and heightned That having thus traiterously endeavoured to Alienate the Affections of His Majesty's Subjects from him upon the score of Religion he hath endeavoured to make use of all the malicious Scandals and Iealousies which he and his Emissaries had raised in His Majesty's Subjects to raise from them unto himself the popular Applause of being the zealous Vpholder of the Protestant Religion and a promoter of new Severities against Papists That he hath traiterously endeavoured to Alienate

to the payment of which his Majesty was not in strictness bound And afterwards received great Summs of Money for procuring the same VI. That he received great Summs of Money from the Company of Vintners or some of them or their Agents for Inhauncing the Prizes of Wines and for freeing them from the payment of legal Penalties which they had incurred VII That he hath in a short time gained to himself a greater Estate than can be imagined to be gained lawfully in so short a time and contrary to his Oath he hath procured several Grants under the Seal from His Majesty to himself and Relations of several of His Majesty's Lands Hereditaments and Leases to the disprofit of His Majesty VIII That he hath Introduced an Arbitrary Government in His Majesty's Forreign Plantations and hath caused such as complained thereof before His Majesty and Councel to be long Imprisoned for so doing IX That he did reject and frustrate a Proposal and Vndertaking approved by His Majesty for the preservation of Mevis and St. Christophers and reducing the French Plantations to his Majesty's Obedience after the Commissions were drawn for that purpose which was the occasion of our great Losses and Damage in those Parts X. That he held Correspondence with Cromwell and his Complices when he was in Parts beyond the Seas attending His Majesty and thereby adhered to the King's Enemies XI That he advised and effected the Sale of Dunkirk to he French King being part of His Majesty's Dominions together with the Ammunitions Attillery and all sorts of Stores there and for no greater value than the said Ammunitions Artillery and Stores were worth XII That the said Earl did unduely cause Hii Majesty's Letters Patents under the Great Seal of England to one Dr. Crowther to be alter'd and the Enrolement thereof to be unduly rased XIII That he hath in an Arbitrary way examined and drawn into question divers of His Majesty's Subjects concerning their Lands Tenements Goods Chattells and Properties determined thereof at the Council Table and stopped Proceedings at Law by Order of the Councel-Table and threatned some that pleaded the Statute of 17 Car. 1. XIV That he hath caused Quo Warranto's to be issued out against most of the Corporations of England immediately after their Charters were Confirmed by Act of Parliament to the intent he might require great Summs of Money of them for renewing their Charters which when they complyed withal he caused the said Quo Warranto's to be Discharged and Prosecution therein to cease XV. That he procured the Bills of Settlement of Ireland and received great Summs of Money for the same in most corrupt and unlawful manner XVI That he hath deluded and betrayed His Majesty and the Nation in all Forreign Treaties and Negotiations relating to the late War and betrayed and discovered His Majesty's secret Councils to his Enemies XVII That he was a principal Author of that fatal council of dividing the Fleet about June 1666. The Clerk having read them a second time it was moved That in regard the Articles were many they might be referr'd to the Committee to see how far they were true because Fame is too slender a ground to bring a Man upon the Stage Sir Fran. Goodr. Seconds it because new matter was now added to what was formerly charged Viva voce in the House Sir Rob. How Suppose the Earl of Clarendom Innocent and yet Charged and Imprisoned which is the worst of the Case he afterwards appears Innocent and is discharged receiving no more hurt than other Subjects have done Namely * D. Buck. one great Man lately Object But why should you Commit him Answ. For proof whether the Articles be true or not Suppose Men for self preservation will not venture to come not knowing how they may trust themselves and so you have no Proof He very guilty and You not able to proceed is the Inconveniency greater for an Innocent Person if he prove so to suffer a few days than for you to loose your Repuation for ever If this Man be not brought to his Tryal it may force him to fly to that which he Councelled that is that we may never have Parliament more Sir Fra. Goodr. I am not against proceeding but unsatisfied to do it without Witness it being like Swearing in Verbo Magistri Sir Iohn Holl. That the Committee undertake to make good the Charge otherwise examine Witnesses Mr. Vaugh. You admit the Accusation to be matter for a Charge if the Committee find proof if you intend to make this a distinct Case I leave it to you but if this be to settle the Course of the Proceedings of the House I am against it for this is ordering a way of Proceeding in the Earl of Clarendon's Case which shall not be a general Rule Tho' I cannot say one of the Articles to be true yet I know them to be a full Charge if made good and you are prescribing a Course neither proper nor ever practised A Witness who speaks without Outh is subject to Damage not so upon Oath because the Law compells him And whereas it hath been said if Witnesses attest before the House of Commons what Judges dare middle in 't I answer such Judges as meddled in the Case of Sir Iohn Elliot c. and the Ship Money Sir Rich. Temp. A Grand Jury is capable to present upon their own knowledge and are Sworn to keep the King's Council and their own and I believe there is not one Article of the Accusation but will be made good Sir Rob. How As I am sensible of the danger of publishing Witnesses beforehand so I would have every one satisfied therefore take the Articles one by one and according as you shall find what your Members may say for the Truth you may be induced to proceed or not Sir Tho. Osb. The House ought to have something to induce their belief which they have had from several Members and I know how some will be made good Sir Tho. Littl. What Article Members of the House do not offer you matter to induce you to believe you may lay it aside therefore hear what shall be said and proceed accordingly Mr. Iohn Tr. You connot expect Witnesses will appear before you Lords will not nor can you expect Commoners should for when you are up and gone nothing can protect a Commoner if this Information be not Judicial At last the Question was put whether to refer it to a Committee Yeas 128. Noes 194. 322. Then the first Article was read to see what would be said to induce the House to Impeach The First Article read Sir Rob. How Lord Vaugh. Heard from Persons of Quality That it would be proved The Second Article was read Lord St. Ioh. Persons of great Quality have assured him to make it good and if they perform not he will acquaint the House who they are The Third Article read Mr. Ed. Seym. Sufficient Persons will make it good with this Addition When he received

and so seem to say fare him well Upon all which Motions Ordered That Sir Tho. Cliff Comptroler of the King's Household be sent to the King to desire the Ports may be stopped December 4 The Lord Fitzharding makes Report from the King that the Message for stopping the Ports being delivered him he had taken Care accordingly A Message from the Lords to desire a speedy Conference From which Mr. Solicitor Reports We attended the Lords at the Conference which was delivered by the Duke of Buck. who said to this purpose That the Lords had Commanded him to deliver to us that Scandalous and Seditious Paper sent from the Earl of Clarendon desiring us to present it to you and to desire you in convenient time to send it to them again for it had a Stile which they were in love with and desired to keep it Which said Paper was read and is as follows viz. TO THE Right HONOURABLE THE LORDS Spiritual and Temporal IN Parliament ASSEMBLED The humble Petition and Address of Edward Earl of Clarendon May it please Your Lordships I Cannot express the unsupportable Trouble and Grief of Mind I sustain under the Apprehension of being Misrepresented to Your Lordships and when I hear how much of Your Lordships time hath been spent upon the mention of me as it is attended with more publick Consequences and of the differences of Opinion which have already or may probably arise between Your Lordships and the Honourable House of Commons whereby the great and weighty affairs of the Kingdom may be obstructed in the time of so general a dissatisfaction I am very unfortunate to find my self to suffer so much under two very disadvantageous Reflections which are in no degree applicable to me The First from the greatness of my Estate and Fortune collected and made in so few Years which if it be proportionable to what is reported may very reasonably cause my Integrity to be suspected The Second That I have been the sole Manager and chief Minister in all the Transactions of State since the King's return into England to August last and therefore that all Miscarriages and Misfortunes ought to be imputed to me and my Councels Concerning my Estate Your Lordships will not believe that after Malice and Envy hath been so inquisitive and so sharp sighted I will offer any thing to Your Lordships but what is exactly true and I do assure Your Lordships in the first place That excepting from the King's Bounty I have never received nor taken one Penny but what was generally understood to be the just lawful Perquisites of my Office by the constant Practice of the best Times which I did in my own Iudgment conceive to be that of my Lord Coventry and my Lord Elsmore the Practice of which I constantly observed altho' the Office in both their Times was lawfully worth double to what it was to me and I believe now is That all the Courtesies and Favours which I have been able to obtain from the King for other Persons in Church or State or in Westminster-Hall have never been worth me Five Pounds So that Your Lordships may be confident I am as innocent from Corruption as from any disloyal Thought which after near Thirty Years Service of the Crown in some Difficulties and Distresses I did never expect would be objected to me in my Age. And I do assure Your Lordships and shall make it very Manifest That the several Sums of Money and some Parcels of Land which His Majesty hath Bountifully bestowed upon me since his return into England are worth more than all I have amounts unto so far I am from advancing my Estate by indirect means And tho' this Bounty of his hath very far exceeded my Merit or my expectation yet some others have been as fortunate at least in the same Bounty who had as small pretences to it and have no great Reason to envy my condition Concerning the other Imputation of the Credit and Power of being chief Minister and so causing all to be done that I had a mind to I have no more to say than that I had the good fortune to serve a Muster of a very great Iudgment and Vnderstanding and be always joyn'd with Persons of great Ability and Experience without whose Advice and Concurrence never any thing hath been done Before His Majesty's coming into England he was constantly attended by the then Marquess of Oumond the late Lord Culpeper and Mr. Secretary Nicholas who were equally trusted with my self and without whose Ioynt Advice and Concurrence when they were all present as some of them always were I never gave any Councel As soon as it pleased God to bring His Majesty into England he Established his Privy Council and shortly out of them he Choose a Number of Honourable Persons of great Reputation who for the most part are still alive as a Committee for Forreign Affairs and Consideration of such things as in the Nature of them required much Secrefie and with these Persons he vouchsafed to Ioyn me And I am confident this Committee never transacted any thing of Moment His Majesty being always present without presenting the same first to the Council-Board and I must appeal to them concerning my Carriage and whether we were not all of one Mind in Matters of Importance For more than two Years I never knew any Differences in the Councils or that there were any Complaints in the Kingdom which I wholly impute to His Majesty's great Wisdom and the intire Concurrence of his Councellours without the Vanity of assuming any thing to my self and therefore I hope I shall not be singly charged with any thing that hath since fal'n out amiss But from the time Mr. Secretary Nicholas was removed from his Place there were great Alterations and whosoever knew any thing of the Court and Councils know well how much my Credit hath since that time been diminished tho' His Majesty graciously vouchsafed still to here my Advice in most of his Affairs nor hath there been from that time to this above one or two Persons brought to the Council or preferr'd to any considerable Office in the Court who have been of my intimate Acquaintance or suspected to have any kindness for me and most of them most Notoriously known to have been very long my Enemies and of different Iudgment and Principles from me both in Church and State and have taken all opportunities to lessen my Credit with the King and with all other Persons by Mis-representing and Mis-reporting all that I said or did and perswading Men I have done them some prejudice with His Majesty or crossed them in some of their Pretensions Tho' His Majesty's Goodness and Iustice was such that it made little Impression upon him In my humble Opinion the great Misfortunes of the Kingdom have proceeded from the War to which it is Notoriously known that I was always most averse and may without vanity say I did not only foresee but declare the Mischiefs we

should run into by Entering into a War before any Alliances made with the Neighbouring Princes and that it may not be imputed to His Majesty's want of Care or the Negligence of his Councellors that no such Alliances were entered into I must take the boldness to say His Majesty left nothing unattempted in order thereunto and knowing very well that France Resolved to begin a War upon Spain as soon as his Catholick Majesty should depart this World which being much sooner expected by them They had in the two Winters before been at great Charges in providing plentiful Magazeens of all Provisions upon the Frontiers that they might be ready for the War His Majesty used all possible means to prepare and dispose the Spaniard with that apprehension offering his Friendship to that degree as might be for the Benefit and Security of both Crowns But Spain flattering it self That France would not break with them at least that they would not give them any Cause by Administring Matter of Iealousie to them never made any real approach towards a Friendship with His Majesty but both by their Embassadors here and to His Majesty's Embassador at Madrid always persisted as Preliminaries upon the giving up of Dunkirk Tangier and Jamaica Tho' France had an Embassador here to whom a Project of a Treaty was offered and the Lord Hollis His Majesty's Embassador at Paris used all endeavours to pursue and prosecute the said Treaty yet it was quickly discerned That the principal Design of France was to draw His Majesty into such a nearer Alliance as might advance their Design without which they had no mind to Enter into the Treaty proposed And this was the State of Affairs when the War was Entred into with the Dutch from which time neither Crown much considered the making any Alliance with England As I did from my Soul abhor the Entring into this War so I presumed never to give any Advice or Councel for the way of managing it but by opposing many Propositions which seemed to the late Lord Treasurer and my self to be unreasonable as the payment of the Seamen by Tickets and many other Particulars which added to the Expence My Enemies took all occasions to enveigh against me and making their Friendship with others out of the Council of more licencious Principles and who knew well enough how much I disliked and complained of the Liberty they took to themselvs of reviling all Councils and Councellours and turning all things Serious and Sacred into ridicule They took all ways imaginable to render me ungrateful to all sorts of Men whom I shall be compelled to Name in my Defence perswading those that miscarryed in any of their Designs That it was the Chancellours doing whereof I never knew any thing However they could not withdraw the King's Favour from me who was still pleased to use my Service with others nor was there ever any thing done but with the joynt Advice of at least the Major part of those who were consulted with And as His Majesty commanded my Service in the late Treaties so I never gave the least Advice in private nor wrote one Letter to any one Person in either of those Negotiations but upon the Advice of the Council and also after it was read in Council or at least by the King himself and some other and if I prepared any Instructions or Memorials it was by the King's Command and the request of the Secretaries who desired my Assistance nor was it any wish of my own that any Embassador should give me any account of the Transactions but to the Secretaries to whom I was always ready to advise nor am I conscious to my self of ever having given Advice that hath proved mischievous or inconvenient to His Majesty and I have been so far from being the sole Manager of Affairs that I have not in the whole last Year been above twice with His Majesty in any Room alone and very seldom in the two or three Years preceding And since the Parliament at Oxford it hath been very visible that my Credit hath been very little and that very few things have been hearkned to which have been proposed by me but contradicted eo nomine because proposed by me I most humbly beseech Your Lordships to remember the Office and Trust I had for seven Years in which in Discharge of my Duty I was obliged to stop and obstruct many Mens pretences and refused to set the Seal to many Pardens and other Grants which would have been profitable to those who procured them and many whereof upon my Representation to His Majesty were for ever stopt which naturally have raised many Enemies to me And my frequent concurring upon the desires of the late Lord Treasurer with whom I had the Honour to have a long and vast Friendship to his Death in Representing several Excesses and Exorbitances the yearly Issue so far exceeding the Revenues provoked many Persons concerned of great Power and Credit to d● me all the ill Offices they could And yet I may faithfully say That I never medled with any part of the Revenue or the Administration of it but when I was desired by the late Lord Treasurer to give him my Assistance and Advice having had the Honour formerly to serve the Crown as Chancellour of the Exchequer which was for the most part in His Majesty's presence Nor have I ever been in the least degree concern'd in point of Profit in letting any part of His Majesty's Revenue nor have ever Treated or Debated it but in His Majesty's presence in which my Opinion concurr'd always with the Major part of the Councellours who were present All which upon Examination will be made manifest to Your Lordships how much soever my Integrity is blasted by the Malice of those who I am confident do not believe themselves Nor have I in my Life upon all the Treaties or otherwise received the value of one Shilling from all the Kings or Princes in the World excepting the Books of the Louvre Print sent me by the Chancellour of France by that Kings direction but from my own Master to whose intire Service and the Good and Welfare of my Country no Man's Heart was every more devoted This being my present Condition I do most humbly beseech Your Lordships to entertain a favourable Opinion of me and to believe me to be Innocent from those foul Aspersions untill the contrary shall proved which I am sure can never be by any Man worthy to be believed And since the Distempers of the Times and the Difference between the two Houses in the present Debate with the Power and Malice of my Enemies Who gave out that I should prevail with His Majesty to Prorogue or Dissolve this Parliament in Displeasure and threaten to expose me to the Rage and Fury of the People may make me to be look'd upon as the Cause which obstructs the Kings Service and Vnity and Peace of the Kingdom I most humbly beseech Your Lordships

Opinions by their Consents To the first Point That a Charge of High-Treason cannot originally be Exhibited by one Peer against another unto the House of Peers the Emphasis of the word originally was shewed For First an Indictment of Treason against a Peer may be removed up to the Lords House to be tryed as it was in the 31 H. 6. in the Earl of Devonshir's Case but a Steward was then to be made Secondly If an Impeachment came from the House of Commons unto the Lords House we did not take upon us the Consideration whether this could be proceeded in or not for it was not the Case to which we were required to give Answer We Replyed Upon the Statute 1 H. 4. Chap. 14. which recits the many great Inconveniencies and Mischiefs by Appeals and provides that all Appeals of Things within the Realm shall be Tryed and Determined by the good Laws of the Realm made and used in the time of the King 's noble Progenitors and Appeals of Things out of the Realm before the Constable and Marshal But We relyed upon the Clause ensuing and thereupon it is accorded and assented That no Appeals be from thenceforth made or in any wise pursued in Parliament in time to come I shewed Appeals in this Statute and Accusations by single Persons were one and the same Thing and that this Statute reached to all Appeals Charges Accusations or Impeachments delivered in in Parliament whereupon the Person Accused was to be put to his Answer and that they were but several Names of the same Thing I shewed first Historically that the Appeals the 11 R. 2. and 21 R. 2. were but Accusations by those Lords of Felons against the other and differed from the Case of the Duke of Hereford and Norfolk which was to be tryed as 21 R. 2. Pl. Cor. in Parl. No. 19. is by the Course of the Civil Law and thereupon Batle was waged That tho' it concerned H. 4. in Interest to confirm the 11 R. 2. and Repell the 21 R. 2. he being Appellant in the former yet he saw the Mischief so great that he himself made Provision against them for the time to come and indeed the Mischief was so great that it ceased not after the destruction of many Lords and Families there being lex talionis in that 21 R. 2. used towards most of those Appellants in the 11 R. 2. till it tumbled King R. 2. First out of his Throne and then into his Grave That there were but two sorts of Proceedings in Capitalibus the Suit of the Party which was called an Appeal or the Suit of the King who ought to proceed by Indictment and so to Tryal by vertue of Magna Charta Nec super eam ibimus c. and that in an Appeal being the Suit of the Party there was no Prerogative of appearance if it were an Appeal at the Common-Law 10 Ed. 4. Lord Gray's Case That an Appeal was taken in our Law-Books frequently for an accusation by the Party I scited Westm. the 1st Cap. 14. where the words Appeal reaches to Indictment And 9 Cook 119. Lord Zanchar's Case that an Appeal of two significations one general and frequent in our Books for an Accusation and Stamford 142. In Case of an Approver the Felon after Confession may Appeal that is saith he accuse others Coadjutors with him to do the Felony C. C. 189. Appellant cometh from the French word Appeller which signifies to accuse or appeach and C. C. 287. Appel signifieth an Accusation and therefore to Appeal a Man is as much as to accuse and in ancient Books he that doth Appeal a Man is called accusator vide 9 Ed. 2. Articuli Cleri Cap. 16. That I knew no reason why in those tumbling Times of R. 2. which caused this Statute for the Statute-Roll is comant ad autermant este us en temps la darren Roy R. 2. They should proceed by way of Appeal but because they were then allowed at the Suit of the Party to accuse any other of Treason but at the King's Suit there ought to be an indictment and an Indictment could not be found but by Jury That in all other Cases an Appeal was to be brought by the Party concerned the Wife or Heir or Party Robbed c. But in Case of Treason any Man may Appeal another and therefore in all reason it must be understood of an Accusation and any Man might accuse another of Treason and if it can be proved by Witnesses it must not be Tryed by Battle as other Appeals may I concluded that the 8 H. 6. No. 38. this Statute the 1 H. 4. Cap. 14. is recited and desired it should be duely kept and put in Execution which was granted that Stamford 78. See Pl. Cor. 31. 132. agree that Appeals of High-Treasons were not commonly used to be Sued in Parliament till the 1 H. 4. Cap. 14. Since which time this manner of Appeal hath gone out of use and I said I had searched many Presidents and tho' of late there may be a President as it was of the Earl of Bristols Father against the Duke of Buckingham of some kind of Impeachment yet I did confidently believe there was not since that Statute 1 H. 4. Cap. 14. any one President of such an Impeachment at the Party-Suit whereupon there was any Indictment In truth in the Earl of Bristol's Case the Commons's House did Impeach the Duke of Treason and so the Earl of Bristol's Impeachment proceeded not For the Seeond Point That there was no Treason in the Charge tho' the Matters in it are alledged to be Traiterously done I said we had perused each Article Seriatim and we had found no Treason in them the great Charge which is endeavoured to be proved by many Particulars was That he did Traiterously and Maliciously to bring the King into Contempt and with an intent to Alien the Peoples Affections from him say c. Such and such words c. And so it runs on That in pursuance of the Traiterous Intent c. he did c. and that in farther pursuance of the said Traiterous Design c. And in like manner was most of the Articels upon which the Characters of Treason seemed to be fixed I said that it is a transcendant Misprision or offence to endeavour to bring the King into Contempt or to endeavour to Alienate the Peoples Affections from him but yet it was not Treason This Statute 13 Car. 2. Cap. 1. makes Treason during the King's Life But if a Man calls the King Heretick or Papist or that he endeavours to introduce Popery which is more in express Terms than the Article of that kind insinuates or by Words Preaching Prayer to stir up the People to hatred or dislike of the Person of His Majesty or the Established Government the Penalty is only Disability to enjoy any Place Ecclesiastical Civil or Military and subject to such Penalties as by the Common-Law or Statute of this Realm may

that I may not forfeit Your Lordships Favour and Protection by With-drawing my self from so powerful a Persecution in hope that I may be able by such withdrawing hereafter to appear and make my Defence when His Majesty's Iustice to which I shall always submit may not be Obstructed or Controled by the Power and Malice of those who have sworn my Destruction CLARENDON Mr. Vaugh. I think it not convenient to loose more time about this Paper Since the time of the Earl of Clarendons Name being mention'd here I had nothing to Charge him with till now but most of the Heads of this Charge are so weighty that I am confident they will be easily and thoroughly proved tho' I know not how so that I admire at his Confidence to Charge this House and so the Nation as his Persecutors and that in such a Condition as he hopes to vindicate himself It s the first time that ever I heard an Innocent Man run away under the greatest Charge with hopes to return again and vindicate himself Then mark one Expression he saith he is as far from Corruption as from Disloyalty If he said he was guilty of neither he had said something but by that Expression he may be guilty of both So insolent a Paper I never met with in this Kingdom nor have I ever read the like in any other so inconsiderable a part of the Nation as he is to lay it upon the Nation who if innocent might defend himself if Guilty why doth he Charge the Nation with persecuting Therefore without troubling your selves with it do as the Lords have done who deliver it to you as a Scandalous and Seditious Paper it hath Malice in it and is the greatest Reproach upon the King and the whole Nation that ever was given by Man Therefore put the Question whether his Paper shall not have the Character that it is a Scandalous and Malicious Paper and a Reproach to the Iustice of the Nation Resolved upon the Question That the Paper sent to the Lords by the Earl of Clarendon and by them sent down to the House of Commons and now read is Scandalous and Seditious and doth Reproach the King and the Publick Iustice of the Nation Sir Rob. How You have voted this Paper Scandalous and therefore it should not live wherefore I move it should be burnt by the Hangman Mr. Garraw The Paper is the Lords and you must send it to them but enter it into your Books and your Vote upon it Resolved To have it burnt Sir Rob. Car. The Paper is the Lords therefore move them to Concur that it may be burnt Sir Rob. How The meaning of my Motion is because the Duke of Buckingham desired the Paper again for the admirableness of the Stile it is entered into their Books already and they need it not to that end therefore desire the Lords Concurrence to burn it Resolved To send it to the Lords to that end December 5. A Motion being made to send to the Lords in pursuance of the Vote about burning the Paper Mr. Vaugh. I am against sending up to the Lords to that purpose because you have Ordered to enter the Paper into your Books and when a Paper is burnt it is not to stand upon Record but should be rased out which two Things are a perfect Contradiction therefore let it rest as it is We have Voted it Scandalous c. The Lords tell us not that they have done any such Thing tho' they ought to have done it first As for the Earl of Clarendon he being now gone if such a like occasion should fall out we are in a worse Condition than we were for there is this President against us in a Case now Manifest And it becomes us to do something in Order to the Lords Concurring that so a good Understanding may be got therefore I shall propound this to you to be sent up to them to that end Namely when any Subject shall be Impeached by the Commons before the Lords in Parliament with desire to secure him such Person by the Law of the Land ought to be secured accordingly This you have in effect Voted already in saving the Iustice of the Kingdom is obstructed by their not doing it Secondly when such Impeached Persons shall be secured the Lords may limit a certain time for bringing in the Charge to prevent delay of Justice This may Salve all and prevent such ways as may be displeasing to the Lords and perhaps us also in some Cases here after Mr. Swin I am perswded that according to Rules of Parliament when you Charge by Impeachment generally and promise in due time to send up your Charge they ought to secure but they not having done it I question whether you could do what you have but the Earl of Clarendon flying it is Manifest Justice was obstructed for he might have been brought to his Tryal if the Lords had secured him but now your Vote is made good which seems to lay the advantage on your side Sir Rob How I think this Message to the Lords will destroy the way of vindicating our selves by Declaration therefore finish the Declaration and then Resolve before you publish it whether to send up this Message Mr. Vaugh. If the Lords agree with us we may spare the Declaration but if they agree not now they will much less hereafter Your Declaration can amount to no more but this make a Narrative of the invalidity of the Lords Presidents but then you must of necessity do something more else your Labour is in vain therefore this Message with these Votes are necessary Sir Rich. Temp. I expected that when the Earl of Clarendon had been fled the Lords would have desired the King to Issue out a Proclamation to apprehend him seeing they have been the occasion of his Escape therefore now desire their Concurrence to go to the King to that end and if they Concur they have upon the Matter granted Commitment upon a general Impeachment Mr. Vaugh. I thought it my Duty to offer you what I have done if you like it not I desire to be excused in serving you in the Declaration and that they who think it necessary would be pleased to take the pains to do it Sir Tho. Lee. If you declare it will beget an Answer and where will that end If you send up your Votes and the Lords agree your end is Answered for it is a yielding that which they have yet denyed Your declaring and entring it upon the Journal will be to no purpose it is but like a Man who having been beaten publickly in the Chamber calls him who did it Rogue Mr. Hampd I desire that the Words Law of the Land may be left out and the Words Law of Parliament or Vsuage of Parliament put instead of them for it hath been shewed us that there are several ways of Impeachment besides Common-Law Mr. Vaugh. Those Words were purposely put in because at the free Conserence when we pressed