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A57702 Mr. Rowse his speech made in the lower House of Parliament the thirtieth of December, 1641 in opposition of the making of Doctor Winniff, Doctor Holsworth, Doctor King, bishops, lately elected by His Majesty, till a setled government in religion be established in this kingdome.; Speech made in the Lower House of Parliament the thirtieth of December 1641, in opposition of the making of Doctor Winniff, Doctor Holsworth, Doctor King bishops Rous, Francis, 1579-1659. 1642 (1642) Wing R2029; ESTC R13048 2,123 8

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Mr. ROWSE HIS SPEECH Made in the lower House of Parliament the thirtieth of December 1641. In opposition of the making of Doctor Winniff Doctor Holsworth Doctor King Bishops lately elected by his Majesty till a setled Government in Religion be established in this Kingdome LONDON Printed 1642. Master ROWSE his Speech made in the House of Parliament the 30 of December 1641. Master Speaker YOu may remember the report made about seven weeks since by Master Woodward of an order from his Majesty sent out of Scotland for drawing up of certain Congideleers for the electing of five new Bishops whereof two are made and consecrated And that then I moved for petitioning his Majesty to stay the making of them but other businesse of greater consequence for the present hindred my enlarging such Reasons as I conceived of weight to stop the proceedings concerning them And now Master Speaker under favour of this honourable House I intend to give you some further ground of my opinion then that it was not neither is it yet convenient as I under favour conceive they should be made Bishops Master Speaker You know the proceedings against those Bishops which have beene great Delinquents in this State and that we have prosecuted to our Impeachment of them of high Treason which was a mayne ground of my opnion for the then averting that intended businesse in making these new Bishops till that businesse was brought to a period And Master Speaker I perswade my selfe that there are as great Delinquents to their power amongst the inferiour Clergy as the Bishops I speak not with an intent you should conceive that I reflect any ways upon the persons of any of these that are elected or made but that untill the other impeached be proceeded against either to their condemnation or otherwise as by the Parliament they shall be found guilty these new elected may be awhile procrastinated and delayed Master Speaker We have as occasion hath served us had many debates and arguments about the quite taking away of Bishops and many divisions in the House have been concerning the same and although voted for their continuance yet the manner of their Government not determined of then as I conceive it can neither be requisite nor convenient to make new Bishops till a certain forme of their Government be fully concluded and setled by the whole State of this Kingdome 2. Secondly Mr. Speaker if wee should give way to the making of these Bishops great prejudice may follow before wee can setle them in such a government as may agree most for the security and safety both of this Kingdome and the fundamentall points and Principles of the Doctrine of the Church of England For Mr. Speaker notwithstanding our proceedings against Delinquents both in Church and State how many Petitions and Complaints have we daily received against pernitious and dangerous tenents in Doctrine besides scandalous and slanderous aspersions delivered by divers of the Clergie in their Sermons and otherwise since the sitting of this present Parliament which out of doubt are favoured nay animated and incouraged by the Bishops which doth much trouble many people and is a great cause of their continuance in evill and obstinate maliciousnesse of a great many of good quality and estimation and then for new Bishops to be made although perchance men of great Learning and Judgement before the Parliament hath fully agreed on the manner of their Government and proceedings to prosecute and punish such Delinquents as have beene perverse instruments in the Church to withdraw the affections of many otherwise perhaps reasonable well affected from the right setling of true Religion with such Discipline congruent thereunto that should be the best meanes to procure the everlasting peace of King and People those inconveniencies and dangerous consequents that may happen may be yet worse then the former we have had too much experience of 3. Thirdly I conceive the making of these Bishops when they shall be admitted to sit in the Lords house their Votes there although voted downe in this House yet not agreed unto by the Lords may be a great hinderance in our proceedings to settle such a forme of Government in Religion as shall by the Parliament bee thought requisite they all of them contriving to continue their old forme and power of Government and their Votes you know Master Speaker have prevailed much in that House many of the Lords not so many I could wish being much inclined towards them too willing to Complie with them in their Designes but I hope by Gods blessing and our indeavours wee shall in time by degrees remove such Impediments both in Church and State as hinder our happy proceedings in redressing such things that are amisse in the same 4. Fourthly a fourth ground of my Opinion that I conceive to be of waight for the staying the making of these Bishops Mr. Speaker is the Non-concurrence amongst our selves concerning their Consecration which I desire may not bee Conclusive till the other things before mentioned for the settlement of Religion and punishment of Delinquents bee agreed unto that then such as shall be by this wise Councell of State thought fit to beare any office in the Church in places of Government may be by the same tried and proved in their Learning Judgement and the holinesse of their lives and conversations that so having not only able but godly men set in places of Authority we may expect the well Government of the inferiour Clergie I desire Mr. Speaker not to bee misconceived in this my speech concerning the stay of making these Bishops yet unconsecrated I speake not against their uncapablenesse or unworthinesse of such places of Government but that they are as able and fit for the same as any other But the intent of my speech and humble motion is that only for the reasons before specified they may not yet be made and Consecrated till such time as all things for the well Government of the Church be fully concluded and setled Which God grant that having reformed all disorders both in Church and State we may every one sit securely under his owne vine and fig-tree and reape and injoy the fruit of his owne labour FINIS