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A79083 The severall copies of the kings letters, and messages, sent to the Parliament: first, about a treatie by commissioners, and then personally by himselfe: with the Parliaments severall answers thereunto, and some observations thereupon. With the copy of a paper under the Lord Inchiquins hand, concerning the Popes Nuntio now in Ireland, and his proceedings there about the bill of bargain and sale of that kingdome. This letter from the King to the Parliament, and their answers to His Majesty, with the observations thereupon, are printed and published according to order. England and Wales. Sovereign (1625-1649 : Charles I); Inchiquin, Murrough O'Brien, Earl of, 1614-1674.; England and Wales. Parliament. 1646 (1646) Wing C2771; Thomason E316_24; ESTC R8601 9,862 16

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〈◊〉 Rebellion 〈…〉 to ingage the people of the 〈…〉 the Pope His repute for safety which must ever 〈◊〉 the 〈…〉 his 〈◊〉 〈…〉 that the miserable 〈◊〉 people fall down and worship 〈…〉 wayes and settle themselv●● 〈◊〉 their adoration 〈…〉 he comes within 〈◊〉 of 〈◊〉 and thought 〈…〉 are naturally blind very 〈…〉 beg his benediction 〈◊〉 ●ever 〈◊〉 so 〈…〉 sight of him He hath brought with him as is said 〈◊〉 D●●kets in Gold and Arme● for 10000 Horse and Foot 〈…〉 for the relief of the Irish and 〈◊〉 of the W●●re 〈◊〉 and they agree upon the Bill of Bargain and Sale of this Kingdom It is 〈…〉 that his arrivall may advantage more their prejudice our ●●oceedings for that the Irish ●re thereby so 〈◊〉 with prid● and arrogancie as that they stand in higher 〈◊〉 then ever with the Marquesses ●ouching a Peace which 〈…〉 confidently hope will never be ●ffected I have not any thing at present that may 〈◊〉 your 〈◊〉 trouble And therefore I take leave and remain Your affectionate Friend INC●●●VIN Now for these and other reasons it is not thought convenient to treat at all not that it cannot possibly conduce 〈◊〉 ●●ce and that for these Reasons I. If his Majesty should come thus to London he should put himself into the capacity of an Enemy which might much amaze the minds of the people to see his Majesty in such a condition amongst us II. When the people should hear that after those few dayes of his Majesties being here He would return again and leave Us they would be so impatient as that they would be hardly quelled but with great insurrections and much discontents III. Except there be some assurance that his Majesty will conc●●re with Them it is of great disadvantage to the Parliament to admit of a Personall Treaty with his Majesty IV. To grant his Majesty once co●●ng hither leave to returne again in an Hostile way against the Parliament after a few dayes Treaty was to make things far worse and the Kingdome further from a capacity of Peace then now it is with us Since the Kings last Letter there came to our hands a Paper from a person of quality which is thought fit to be here inserted KIND SIR IT is thought the King had rather he at Guild Hall then at Westminster Hall had rather be a 〈◊〉 th●n an Englishman a 〈…〉 he will 〈◊〉 what you will and where 〈…〉 him 〈…〉 to passe his designes the 〈…〉 and will not sacrifice the publike to have their debts assured our Brethren know him too well to trust to wh●● she 〈◊〉 and 〈…〉 of will in them to us they helped us at a need and will never dishonour their Nation by a misdeed the Presbiterians 〈…〉 so 〈◊〉 to have their way Iure Divi●● 〈…〉 of their Iudgement upon any complyance of the Kings I must professe my selfe to be a Presbiterian but not ridged yet I thinke that Independents may fight for us 〈…〉 principles to lay downe their 〈…〉 Authority whatsoever they should be there unto required the Kingdome hath found them trusty faithfull and valiant in the performance of that trust they will discharge a good conscience and therefore can the more cheerfully bear any aspersion Dat. Ian. 3. 1645. The Parliament have debated about the sending of Proposition to the King and have agreed upon such Propositions as they conceive to bee the onely meanes for the preparing a sale and well-grounded Peace and that for these Reasons I. The Kings Signing of those Bills give satisfaction and security to both the Kingdomes That His Majesties coming hither is for Peace and the good of His People in giving His Royall assent to what the Parliament of England and Scotland for that purpose present unto His Majesty II. His Majesty will hereby make the strongest Union between the two Kingdomes of England and Scotland that can be which is already made by a Covenant with the God of Heaven by the Parliament and the People and wants nothing but His Majesties assent III. Religion will hereby be setled all Popery and Superst●●●on utterly cast out the Church Reformed and pure Religion ●●blished IV. His Majesty may come then to His Parliament with joy and be received of His People with love and meeknesse and have the glory to be accompted by His People as is acknowledged by His Parliament to be a principall Instrument in so good a Work V. His Majesty may have a reall and sincere Parliament to advise with for the safety of His Person State and Kingdomes and such as will be firme to His Majesty for the good of Himselfe and Posterity Church and People and settle the Kingdome in 〈◊〉 Posture as will keepe Us under safe and well grounded Peace Wee hope His Majesty will hearken to His Parliament Confu●ter ille fit tibi vir quisapit Sapient i● en●m 〈…〉 Here followeth the Copies of the King severall Messages and Letters and the Parliaments Answers thereunto The Kings Majesties first ●essage or Letter to the Parliament sent from Sir Thomas Glemham by a Trumpet about a Treaty by Commissioners CHARLES R. HIs Majesty being ●ill deeply sensible of the continuation of this bloody and unnaturall warre cannot thinke himself discharged of the 〈…〉 to God and the affection and regard he hath to the prese●●ation of his People without the constant application of his ca●hest endeavours to ●●nd some expedient for the speedy ending of these un●appy 〈◊〉 if it may be Doth therefo●● desire that a 〈…〉 of Richm●nd 〈◊〉 the Earle 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Iohn 〈◊〉 and 〈…〉 Erse●ires and their Atte●dants with Coaches Hors●s and other accommodations for their journey to Westminst●●●●●uring the● stay there and ●eturne 〈…〉 whom His Majesty intends to 〈◊〉 th● 〈…〉 assembled in the Parl●ament of ●ing ●and at Westminster and the Commissioners of the Parliament of Scotland furnished with such Propos●●ions as His Majesty is conside●● will be ●he foundation of a happy and well grounded 〈◊〉 Decemb. 5 164● Given at the Court at Oxford For the Speaker of the House of 〈◊〉 pro tempore The Parliaments Answer to the Kings first Letter sent by a Tru●p●●er to Sir Thomas Glemham Governour of Oxford SIR WE have rec●●ved 〈◊〉 Letter of the 〈◊〉 of this instant December with His Majesties hand ●●closed and have sent back your 〈◊〉 by command of both Houses who will with all convenient speed return an Answer to his Majesty and rest For Sir 〈…〉 Your loving friends Governour of Oxford Grey of Werk Speaker of the House of Peers pro tempore William Lenthall Speaker of the House of Commons The Kings Maiesties second Message to the Parliament in ●●secution of the 〈◊〉 CHARLES R. HIs Majesty cannot but extremely wo●dee that after so many expressions on your part of a deep and 〈◊〉 sense of the miseries of this afflicted Kingdome and of the dangers incident to his 〈…〉 the 〈◊〉 of this unnatuall war your many great and so 〈…〉 stations that the raising of those Armies hath
been only for the necessary defence of Gods true Religion His Majesties honour safety and property the peace 〈◊〉 and security of his People you should 〈◊〉 a safe Conduct 〈◊〉 the persons mentioned in his Majesties Message of the 〈◊〉 this instant December which are to be sent unto you with Propositions for a well-grounded peace a thing so far from 〈◊〉 been denied at any time by his Majesty 〈…〉 desired the same that he believes hath been seldome if ever practised among the most 〈◊〉 and professed enemies much lesse from Subjects to their King But his Majesty is resolved that no discouragment 〈◊〉 ever shall make him falle of his part in doing his 〈…〉 put an end to these calamities which if not in time prevented must prove the ruine of this unhappy Nation and therefore 〈◊〉 once againe desire that 〈…〉 for those persons 〈◊〉 in his former Message and doth therefore consure you as you will answer to almighty God in that day when he shall make inquisition for all the bloud that hath and may be spilt in this un●aturall Warre as you tender the preservation and establishment of the true Religion by all the bonds of duty and allegiance to your King or compassion to your bleeding and unhappy Countrey and of charity to your selves that you dispose your selves to a true sense and imploy your hearts and all your faculties in a most serious endeavour together with his Majesty to set a speedy end to these wasting divisions and then he shall not doubt but that God will yet againe give a blessing of peace to this now distracted Nation Given at Oxford the 15. of December 1645. For the Speaker of the House of Peeres pro 〈◊〉 The Parliaments compleat Answer to both his Majesties former Letters which was sent by Sir Peter Killegrew May it please your Majestie THe Lords and Commons assembled in the Parliament of England as W●stminster have received your Letters of the fifth and fifteenth of this 〈◊〉 December and having together with the Commissioners of the Parliament of Scotland taken the same into their serious consideration d● humbly returns this Answer They have in all their actions manifested to your Majestie and the world their sincere and earnest desires that a safe well-gro●inded peace might be setled in your three Kingdomes and for the obtaining so great a blessing shall ever pray to God and use their utmost endeavours and beseech your Majestie to beleeve that their not sending a more speedy answer hath not proceeded from any intention to retard the ●●ane● of putting an end to these present calamities by a happi● peace but hath 〈◊〉 o●casioned by the considerations and debates necessari● in a 〈◊〉 of so great importance wherein both Kingdomes are so much concerned As to your Majesties desire of a safe 〈◊〉 for the ●●●ing hither of the Duke of Richmond the Earle of Southampton John Ashburnham and 〈…〉 with 〈…〉 happie and 〈…〉 They 〈…〉 been made 〈…〉 under the pre●ence of peace and 〈◊〉 ●●●ved 〈…〉 cannot give way to a safe conduct ●●●ding to your 〈◊〉 desire But both Houses of the Parliament of England having now under their consideration Pro●●●tions and 〈◊〉 for the setling of a safe and well 〈…〉 which are 〈…〉 〈◊〉 to the 〈…〉 of the King 〈◊〉 of Scotl●nd doresolve after 〈…〉 King●●mes to pr●sens 〈…〉 all 〈…〉 〈◊〉 the 25 Decem● 1655. Gray of Wark Speaker of the House of Peeres pro tempore William Lenthall Speaker of the House of Comm●ons The Kings Majesties third Lester being the first Messiage●●● 〈…〉 Treatie with the Parli●ment CHARLES R. NOtwithstanding the strange and unexpected delayes which can be presidented by no former times to his Majesties two former Messages his Majestie will lay aside all expostulations 〈…〉 serving to loose 〈◊〉 then to contribute 〈◊〉 remedie to the evills which 〈◊〉 the present do afflick this distrected Kingdom therefore without ●●●ther preamble his Majestie thinks it most necessarie to send these ●●●positions thi● way which he intended to do by the persons mentioned in his former Message though he well knowes the great disadvantage which overtures of this kind have by the want of being accompanied by well i●structed Messengers His Majestie conceiving that the former Treaties have bither to proved ineffectuall chiefly for want of power in those persons that ●●●●ted as likewise because those from whom their power 〈◊〉 derived not possibly having the particular informations of ever●e severall debate could not give so cleare a judgement as was requisite in so important a businesse it therefore His Majestie may have the ingagement of the two Houses of Parliament at Westminster the Commissione●s of the Parliament of Sentland the Mayor Aldermen Common-Councell and Militia of London of the chiefe 〈◊〉 of 〈◊〉 Thomas Fairfax his Army and also of those in the Scots Army for his Majesties safe and free coming and abo●d in London or Westminster with such of his servants now attending him and their followers not exceeding in all the number of 300 for the space of 40. daies and after the said time for his free and safe repaire to any of his Garrisons of Oxford Worcester or Newark which his Majestie shall nominate at any time before his going from London or Westminster His Majestie propounds to have a personall Treaty with the two Houses of Parliament at Westminster and the Commissioners of the Parli●ment of Scotland upon all matters which may conduce to the restoring of peace and happinesse to these miserable distracted Kingdoms and to begin with the three heads which were treated on at Vxbridge and for the better clearing of his Majesties earnest and sincer● intentions of putting an end to these unn●turall distractions knowing that point of security may prove the greatest obstacle to this most blessed worke His Majestie therefore declates that he is willing to commit the great trust of the Militia of this Kingdome for such 〈◊〉 and with such powers 〈◊〉 are exprest in the paper delivered by his Majesties Commissioners at Vxbridge the 6. of Februarie last to these persons following viz. the Lord Privy Se●●e Duke of Richmond Ma●quisse of Hartford Marquisse of Dorchester Earl of Dorset Lord Chamber●●in the Ear●● of Nor●humberland the Earle of Essex Earle of Southampton Earle of Pembroke Earle of Salisbury Earle of Manchester Earle of Warwick Earle of Denbigh Earle of Chichester the Lord Say Lord Seymour Lord Lucas Lord ●●ppington Mr. Denzill Holl●● Mr. Pierpoy●● M. Henry Bell●ssis M. Richard Spencer Sir Thomas Fairfa●● M. John Ashburnham Sir G●rvase Cliston Sir H. Vane jun. M. Robert Wallo● Mr. Thomas Chickley Mr. Oliver Cromwell and Mr. Philip Skippon supposing that these are persons against whom there can be to just exceptions But it this do not satisfie then his Majestie off ●s to name the on halfe and leaves the other to the election of the two Houses of Parliament at Westminster with the powers of limitation before mentioned Thus his Majestie cals God and the world to witnesse of his
sincere intentions and reall endeavours for the composing and fetting of these miserable distractions which he doubts not but by the blessing of God will soone be put to an happie conclusion i● this his Majesti●● offer be accepted otherwayes he leaves all the world to judge who are the contrivers of this unnaturall war And therefore he once more conjures you by all the bonds of dutie which you owe God and your King to have so gret a compassion on the 〈…〉 mis●rable estate of your Countrey that you joyn your most 〈…〉 heartie endeavours with his Majesty to put a happie and 〈…〉 to these present miseries Given at the Court of Oxford Decemb. 26. 1645. For the Speaker of the House of Peeres pro ●empore to be comm●●cated to the two Houses of Parliament at Westminster and the Commissioners of the Parliament of Scotland The Kings Majesties fourth message in prosecution of the 〈…〉 personall Treatie with the Parliament 〈…〉 by Sir P. Killegrew CHARLES R. ALthough the message sent by Sir Peter Killegraw may justly 〈◊〉 〈…〉 answer yet his Majestie layes that aside 〈…〉 proper for 〈◊〉 present ende●vours leaving all the world 〈…〉 his propasitions for a persinall Treatie or the flat 〈◊〉 of a safe 〈◊〉 for persons to begin a Treatie be greater signes of a reall 〈…〉 peace and shall now only ●●sist upon his former message of the 〈◊〉 of 〈◊〉 December That upon his repair to Westoninfter be 〈◊〉 not but 〈◊〉 joyn his ●●d●avours with his Houses of Parliament as to give just 〈…〉 ction not only concerning the bufinesse of Ireland 〈◊〉 also 〈…〉 of away for the payment of the publike de●●s as well to the 〈…〉 the Citie of London as others and as already 〈…〉 〈◊〉 for setling of the Militia so he shall carefully 〈…〉 particulars that none shall have cause 〈…〉 for 〈…〉 whereby just jealousies may arise to hinder the 〈…〉 〈◊〉 and certainly this prop●sition of a persionall 〈…〉 have entred into his Majesties thoughts if 〈◊〉 had not 〈◊〉 to 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 to all the world that the publike good and 〈◊〉 of 〈…〉 〈◊〉 is far deaner to him them the respect of any particular 〈◊〉 wherefore none can ●ppose this motion without a 〈…〉 that he particularly en●ies his Majestie should be 〈…〉 Author 〈◊〉 blessed a work be●ides the declaring himselfa a direct Opposer of 〈◊〉 pie peace of th●se Nations To 〈…〉 will not 〈…〉 〈…〉 and specious 〈…〉 brought 〈…〉 publike test and those 〈…〉 reall sense and 〈…〉 the miseries 〈◊〉 their bleading Countrey let them spe●dily and 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 his Majesties proposition for his personal 〈◊〉 at West●●●ster which by the blessing of God will undoubtedly to these now distracted Kingdomes restore the happinesse of a long ●ish●● for and lasting 〈◊〉 Given at the Court at Oxford the nine and twentieth day of December 1645. For the Speaker of the House of Pe●●es pr●●tempore to be communicated to the two Houses of Parli●ment at Westminster and the Commissioners of the Parliament of Scotland The Parliaments complete Answer to His Majesties two laft Letters May it please your Majesty VVE your humble and loyall Subjects of both Kingdomes have received your Letters of the 26. and 29. of December last unto which we humbly returne this Answer● That there hath been no deby on our parts but what was necessarie in 〈◊〉 businesse of so great 〈◊〉 consequence as is exprest in our formet Letter to your 〈…〉 Conceming the personall Treatie desired by your Majestie there ●●●●ing been so much innocen●bloud of your good Subjects shed in this 〈◊〉 by your Majesties Commands and Commissions 〈…〉 brought over into both Kingdomes and inde●vours to bring over more both of them as also Forces from forraigne parts your Majestie being in Armes in these parts and the Prince in the head of an Army in the West divers townes made Garrisons and kept in hostility by your Majestie against the Parliament of England there being also forces in Scotland against that Parliament and Kingdome by your Majesties Commission the w●rre in Ireland ●o mented and prolonged by your Majestie whe●eby the three Kingdomes are brought neare to ●●ter ruine and destruction We conceive that untill satisfaction and secutitie be first given to both your Kingdomes your Majesties coming hither cannot be convenient not by us assented unto neither can we apprehend it a means conducing to peace that your Majesty should come to your Parliament for a few daies with anie thoughts of leaving it especially with intentions of returning to hostility against it and we do obferve that your Majestie desires the ing●gement not onely of your Parliaments but of the Lord Mayor 〈…〉 mon Counsell and Militia of the City of London the 〈…〉 ders of Sir Tho. Fair faxe's Army and those of the Scots Army which is against the Priviledges and Honours of the Parliaments 〈◊〉 being joyned with them who are subject and subordinate to 〈◊〉 authority That which your Majestie against the freedome of the Parliaments inforces in both your Letters with many carnest expressions 〈◊〉 if in no other way then that propounded by your Majestie the peace of your Kingdoms could be established your Majestie may please to remember that in our last Letter we did declare that Propositions from both Kingdomes were speedily to be sent to 〈◊〉 Majestie which we conceive to be the onely way for the attaining a happie and well-grounded peace and your Majesties assent unto those Propositions will be an effectuall meanes for giving satisfaction and 〈…〉 your Kingdome will assure a firm 〈◊〉 between the two Kingdome● 〈◊〉 much desired by each for other as for themselves and settle Re●gion and secure the peace of the Kingdom of Scotland whereof 〈…〉 so much as mentioned in your 〈…〉 Letter And ●n proceeding according to those just and 〈…〉 for the putting an end to the bleeding calamities of these Nations 〈◊〉 Majestie may have the glorie to be a principall instrument in so 〈◊〉 〈…〉 and we however mis-interpreted shall approve 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 God and the World to be reall and sincere in seeking a safe and 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 peace FINIS