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A18804 Fovvre seuerall treatises of M. Tullius Cicero conteyninge his most learned and eloquente discourses of frendshippe: oldage: paradoxes: and Scipio his dreame. All turned out of Latine into English, by Thomas Newton.; Selections. English Cicero, Marcus Tullius.; Newton, Thomas, 1542?-1607. 1577 (1577) STC 5274; ESTC S107887 110,876 296

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FOVVRE SEuerall Treatises of M. TVLLIVS CICERO Conteyninge his most learned and Eloquente Discourses of Frendshippe Oldage Paradoxes and Scipio his Dreame All turned out of Latine into English by Thomas Newton Imprinted at London in Fleetestreete neere to S. Dunstanes Churche by Tho. Marshe Cum Priuilegio 1577. To the Righte Honorable his very good Lord Fraūcis Earle of Bedford Lord Russell of the Noble order of the Garter Knight and one of her Maiesties moste Honourable priuye Counsel Tho. Nevvton vvisheth the fernent zeale of God vvith encrease of much Honor. EIghte yeeres agoe Right Honorable some parte of these my poore Labors escaped my handes and rashly by peecemeale passed the Printers Presse not without some blemishes and Eyesores which as my meaning was then to haue repolished and brought into order so the poastinge speede and shufling vp of the same without my presence consent and knowledge quight defeated my purpose and dashed my determination But sithens things passed be irreuocable I haue thought good vpō request to take that direct course in the second edition thereof which seemed best to breede the Readers profit and soonest to salue myne own credite And thereupon haue I pulled all asunder agayne and aduentured the same anew adding thervnto one Booke more thē before I had done because the whole VVorke beeing by that meanes fully supplied shoulde come foorth vniforme and in one maner of Style and order VVhich being now throughly finished I humbly present offer vnto youre good L. not a whitte doubting of your honorable acceptaunce if not for anye workemanshippe of myne which is God knoweth verye rude and vnsauerye yet for noble Cicero his owne sake the Author first writer hereof whose onely name much more hys learned workes you haue as they are well worthye in reuerent estimation For which verye cause I deemed no worthier Counsay loure could be found to defend and protect so noble a Senatour then your H. whom in the watchful cares of the Common wealth profounde VVisdome graue aduise and politicke gouernmēt he so neerely and liuelye resembleth My part of trauaile in the Interpretatiō of whose Sayings I hūbly submit vnto your Honourable censure beseechinge God to continue and encrease hys blessinges spiritual and temporall vpon you your honourable Lady and Children to the aduauncement and setting foorth of his glorie the weale of this your Coūtry to your own ioye consolation From Butley in Chesshyre the. 4. of Maye 1577. Your good L. wholy at commaundement Thomas Newton The Booke of Freendshippe Otherwise entituled Laelius written dialoguewise by Marcus Tullius Cicero vnto his very freende T. Pomponius Atticus The Preface QVINTVS Mutius Scaeuola Augur was wont promptlye pleasauntly to reporte manye thinges of Caius Laelius hys father in law and doubted not in all his talke to tearme him a wiseman And I assone as euer I entred into mans state was in such sort by my father put to Scaeuola that as nere as I might or coulde I should not one whit steppe aside from the olde mans sleeue And therefore I diligently noted and committed to memorye many reasons wisely by him discoursed and many thinges brieflye and aptly by him spoken and sought by hys wisdome to become the better learned After that he was dead I got me to P. Scaeuola whom alone I dare boldlye cal for witte and skille the oddestman of our Citie But of him we shal speake more at an other time Nowe doe I returne to Scaeuola Augur Among his many other discourses of sundry matters I do namely remēber that be sitting at home in his halfe rounde Chayre as his cōmon wont was to doe when as I and a verye fewe of his Famyliers were presente fell into that talke whiche as then was almoste common in manye mennes mouthes For as I thincke freende Atticus you remember well ynough and muche the rather because you were verye famylier with P. Sulpitius what a wondring and moane there was of all men when as hee beeinge Tribune for the Commons was fallen at deadlye variaunce with Q. Pompeius beinge at that time Consull with whome aforetime hee had lyued moste freendlye and louinglye At that verye time therefore Scaeuola entringe into talke aboute the same declared vnto vs the Speache that Laelius had with him and hys other Sonne in Lawe C. Fannius the Sonne of Marcus a sewe Dayes after the Deathe of Aphricanus touchinge Freendeshyppe The chiefe pointes of whiche his Discourse I faythfullye committed to memorie and haue in this Booke set downe after mine owne phāsie and discretion For I haue introduced them as it were speakinge one to an other that these tearmes Quoth I and Quoth he shoulde not bee to often repeated And for this purpose haue I done it because the Treatise mighte seeme to bee had as it were of persons present euen before your faces And forasmuch freende Atticus as you haue often times beene in hande with mee to penne some pretie Discourse of Freendshippe I deemed the same matter to be a thing both worthy the knowledge of all men and also the Familiaritie that is betweene vs I haue done it therefore at thy requeste willinglye to the ende I mighte benefite manye But as my Treatyse entituled Cato Maior which is written to thee of Oldage I introduced Cato an aged mā reasoning thereof because I iudged no man fitter to speake of that age then he who had both bene a very long time an oldman and also in that his oldage had flourished aboue others so now also forasmuch as we haue heard of our elders what notable familiarity was betwene C. Laelius and P. Scipio I haue deemed Laelius a very fit person to discourse vpon those points of Freendship which my mayster Scęuola remēbred were discussed by him And certainelye this kinde of talke set out by the Authority of auncient and the same right honourable personages seemeth I know not how to cary with it more countenaunce grauitye And therfore I myselfe readinge mine owne woorkes am sometime in that case that I thincke Cato telleth the tale and not myselfe But as I then beinge olde did write of Oldage to an old man so in this boke as a most faythful frend I haue written to my very frēd cōcerning Frēdship Thē did Cato reason the matter who was the oldest man almoste the wisest in those dayes Now doth Laelius a man both wise for so was he accoumpted and in the noblenesse of frendshippe peerelesse vtter his opinion of Frendship I woulde that for a while you shoulde not thincke vpon me but suppose that Laelius hymselfe speaketh C. Fannius and Q. Mutius come to their father in lawe after the death of Aphricanus They speake firste Laelius maketh answere whose whole discourse is of Frendship which thou thy selfe in reading shalt throughly vnderstand FANNIVS Your words be true Laelius For neither better or nobler hath there benanye then Aphricanus But you must thincke that all men haue east their eyes