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A32158 Two speeches the first spoken by the Kings most excellent Majesty, at a generall councell held at Oxford, December 29 : wherein His Maiesty declares his inability to maintaine the warre any longer without the Lords shall rayse present supply of money for the maintenance of the said army : the second, spoken by the Earle of Northampton in answer to His Majesties demands. 1643 (1643) Wing C2871; ESTC R1362 1,675 11

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Two Speeches The first spoken by the Kings most Excellent Majesty At a generall Councell held at OXFORD December 29. VVherein his Maiesty declares his inability to maintaine the Warre any longer without the Lords shall rayse present supply of Money for the maintenance of the said ARMY The second spoken by the Earle of Northampton in answer to his Majesties Demands C R HONI SOIT QVI MALl Y PENSE January 2 Printed for I. H. and W. Whightfield 1643. A SPEECH Spoken by the Kings most Excellent MAIESTY At a Generall Councell held at Oxford December 29. 1642. MY Lordes and Gentlemen which are here assembled according to Our Command Wee in Our tender care of the Generall good have thought it necessary to declare unto you the truth of Our present estate and condition which I beleeve will appeare very deplorable to you and all other Our loving and loyall Subjects The great summe● which Wee have received from every one of you Wee willingly and gratefully acknowledge toward the maintainance of these warres in which you are joyntly ingaged with us for the maintaining our Regall and Royall Prerogative and the support of the true Protestant Religion Professed by Queene Elizabeth and maintained by our Royall father under whose government this Kingdome injoyed so many yeares of Peace and plenty But having by your assistance gone thus farr and brought this glorious structure to the height and view of forraine Princes who with Avaritious longings wait to see the end of our proceedings let us not now for want of your assistance let fall the worke and make our selves a scorne and by-word to all Nations Therefore in these two heads consists the crowne of all our actions Either you must advance some present monies whereby our Army may be maintained and kept from mutining till such time as we shall gaine power to enlarge our quarters and by that meanes our men be inabled to supply their wants or on the contrary to endeavour to gaine an honourable accommodation of peace before our exigences are discovered or made knowne to the adverse party For common reason tells us that our excursions being stopt and our dragooners so farre impoverished it will be a meanes to increase mutines which mutines will easily be discovered and the enemy take advantage of them and should they find so faire an oppertunity they would not easily be wonne to an accommodation except it were very advantagious on their party and very preiudicicall to us So that now consider whether you thinke your selves able to maintaine the cause which you have undertooke or imbrace an accommodation as is proffered For since We cannot performe with Honour what Wee have undertaken let your present moderation cure the malladie your former rashnes hath made let us not proceed but with all possible expedition endeavour to obtain● an Honourable accommodation Hi● Majesty having ended his Speech after some Consultation had among themselves the Earle of Northampton returned this Answer in the name of all the Lords MAy it please your Majesty VVe your most Loyall Subjects have seriously weighed the tennour and extent of your Majesties desires and in Answer to your Majesties Propositions we have thought it requisite to returne this Answer 1. For your Majesties Proposition that wee should raise a present summe of money to defray the charge of the Army t is not unknowne to your Majesty with what willingnesse and allacrity we have exhausted our Treasure to the ruine of our present Estates having disbursed all the Coyne that wee could rayse upon our Lands or credits t is not unknowne likewise that since the begining of these VVarres between your Majesty and your Parliament we have received no Rents our Tennants being injoyned the contrary by which meanes we are so necessitated that we have hardly meanes to defray our present necessities and being so how farre unable we are to raise such a considerable summe your Majesty may easily conceive 2. As touching an Honourable Accommodation so it might be procured with Honour to your Majesty and security to us your Majesties Servants J verily believe that no true Subject but would willingly and joyfully imbrace it but on the contrary if a Peace cannot be obtained without the exposall of our lives to the censure of the Law as Delinquents for our Loyalty to your Majesty we hope your Majesty will not condiscend to and we would rather hazard our lives to the last minute and dye with Honour then submit our lives and honours to the censure of the Law and at so deare a rate as the losse of both purchase a brand of dishonour to our Posterities forever This we leave to your Majesties Royall consideration promising to be assistant to your Royall Majesty to the hazard of our lives so farre as our Honours will permit either in Peace or VVarre according as your Majesty in your Royall wisdome shall thinke fit FINIS