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A35667 Truth outweighing error, or, An ansvver to a treatise lately published by J.B. entituled, A confession of his faith and a reason of his practice, or, With who he can, and with who he cannot hold church-fellowship ... by John Denne ... J. D. (John Denne) 1673 (1673) Wing D1027; ESTC R11873 57,462 128

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in_o vain_a thus_o god_n deal_v with_o man_n whereof_o he_o complain_v isa_n 49.4_o i_o have_v labour_v in_o vain_a i_o have_v spend_v my_o strength_n for_o nought_o and_o in_o vain_a insomuch_o that_o in_o justification_n of_o himself_o against_o john_n bunyan_n and_o such_o other_o he_o appeal_v to_o his_o enemy_n in_o the_o case_n viz._n judge_n i_o pray_v you_o what_o can_v i_o have_v do_v more_o for_o sinner_n than_o i_o have_v do_v isa_n 5.4_o i_o have_v give_v my_o son_n to_o redeem_v they_o from_o death_n and_o in_o he_o i_o have_v also_o offer_v they_o eternal_a salvation_n which_o i_o have_v invite_v they_o to_o embrace_v and_o also_o endeavour_v to_o effect_v in_o their_o heart_n by_o the_o motion_n of_o my_o holy_a spirit_n for_o the_o operation_n whereof_o i_o have_v wait_v even_o until_o i_o perceive_v all_o my_o endeavour_n to_o be_v in_o vain_a my_o spirit_n be_v resist_v and_o in_o despite_n thereof_o they_o have_v persist_v in_o wickedness_n wherein_o what_o can_v i_o have_v do_v more_o or_o what_o can_v i_o now_o do_v save_v only_o bewail_v their_o folly_n in_o that_o they_o shall_v so_o against_o my_o will_n forsake_v their_o own_o mer●●●●…_n jona_n 2.8_o and_o that_o also_o the_o lord_n frequent_o do_v he_o grieve_v for_o the_o destruction_n of_o sinner_n jer._n 4.19_o my_o bowel_n my_o bowel_n i_o be_o pain_v at_o my_o very_a heart_n not_o that_o god_n have_v bowel_n or_o a_o heart_n like_o man_n but_o the_o bowel_n of_o the_o father_n be_v his_o tender_a mercy_n and_o great_a compassion_n be_v unwilling_a to_o punish_v for_o the_o lord_n do_v not_o afflict_v willing_o nor_o grieve_v the_o child_n of_o man_n lam._n 3.33_o it_o be_v hard_a with_o the_o lord_n viz._n against_o his_o good_a pleasure_n how_o say_v he_o shall_v i_o give_v thou_o up_o o_o backsliding_a ephraim_n how_o shall_v i_o deliver_v thou_o to_o death_n o_o sinful_a israel_n how_o shall_v i_o make_v thou_o as_o adama_n how_o shall_v i_o set_v thou_o as_o zeboim_n my_o heart_n be_v turn_v within_o i_o my_o repenting_n be_v kindle_v together_o hos_fw-la 11.8_o thus_o the_o son_n of_o god_n be_v like_a unto_o his_o father_n in_o compassion_n when_o he_o behold_v jerusalem_n luk._n 19.41_o 42._o he_o weep_v over_o it_o because_o they_o will_v not_o know_v the_o thing_n that_o belong_v to_o their_o peace_n he_o be_v grieve_v for_o the_o hardness_n of_o their_o heart_n mark_v 3.5_o wish_v it_o have_v be_v otherwise_o o_o that_o thou_o have_v hearken_v to_o my_o commandment_n isa_n 48.18_o o_o that_o israel_n have_v walk_v in_o my_o way_n psa_n 81.16_o what_o great_a compassion_n be_v this_o what_o demonstration_n of_o love_n be_v here_o when_o jesus_n weep_v for_o lazarus_n joh._n 11.35_o the_o jew_n look_v upon_o it_o as_o a_o great_a demonstration_n of_o love_n and_o be_v it_o not_o so_o in_o god_n towards_o sinner_n when_o david_n weep_v after_o abner_n bier_n and_o bewail_v he_o it_o be_v say_v 2_o sam._n 3.37_o that_o all_o israel_n understand_v that_o day_n that_o the_o death_n of_o abner_n be_v not_o of_o the_o king_n but_o far_o contrary_a to_o his_o mind_n and_o sure_o also_o we_o may_v conclude_v from_o what_o have_v be_v allege_v that_o the_o death_n of_o sinner_n be_v not_o of_o our_o god_n he_o never_o determine_v any_o such_o thing_n neither_o be_v he_o any_o way_n the_o cause_n thereof_o it_o be_v far_o from_o he_o whereby_o as_o we_o may_v perceive_v the_o death_n of_o sinner_n be_v altogether_o of_o themselves_o and_o not_o by_o or_o through_o god_n blind_a they_o so_o the_o order_n of_o his_o election_n may_v be_v perceive_v contrary_a to_o john_n bunyan_n faith_n the_o confession_n whereof_o i_o have_v now_o do_v with_o have_v offer_v thus_o much_o because_o that_o god_n be_v much_o dishonour_v and_o many_o people_n deceive_v through_o the_o not_o understand_v these_o thing_n i_o come_v now_o to_o the_o reason_n of_o his_o practice_n in_o worship_n j.b._n pag._n 48._o wherein_o he_o first_o distinguish_v between_o those_o with_o who_o he_o dare_v not_o have_v communion_n and_o those_o with_o who_o he_o dare_v have_v communion_n with_o i_o suppose_v he_o mean_v concern_v what_o he_o say_v touch_v those_o with_o who_o he_o dare_v not_o have_v communion_n i_o shall_v leave_v he_o unto_o himself_o only_o take_v notice_n that_o those_o who_o do_v not_o profess_v faith_n and_o holiness_n yea_o the_o open_a profane_a may_v be_v near_a heaven_n than_o those_o that_o pretend_v great_a zeal_n without_o knowledge_n our_o saviour_n say_v of_o old_a matth._n 21.31_o that_o the_o publican_n and_o harlot_n enter_v into_o the_o kingdom_n of_o god_n before_o you_o but_o i_o shall_v now_o consider_v what_o j._n b._n say_v concern_v who_o he_o dare_v which_o he_o thus_o declare_v i_o dare_v have_v communion_n yea_o church-communion_n with_o those_o that_o be_v visible_a saint_n by_o call_v with_o those_o that_o by_o the_o word_n of_o the_o gospel_n have_v be_v bring_v over_o to_o faith_n and_o holiness_n pag._n 65._o although_o as_o afterward_o he_o declare_v as_o well_o as_o in_o his_o title_n page_n they_o dissent_v about_o water-baptism_n answ_n if_o j._n bunyan_n have_v only_o say_v this_o i_o know_v not_o who_o will_v have_v gainsay_v nay_o if_o he_o have_v tell_v we_o that_o he_o can_v have_v communion_n with_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n i_o know_v not_o who_o will_v have_v oppose_v he_o except_o the_o catholic_n themselves_z who_o peradventure_o consider_v the_o error_n of_o his_o faith_n will_v not_o judge_v he_o fit_a for_o communion_n with_o they_o but_o john_n bunyan_n proceed_v to_o persuade_v other_o to_o do_v the_o same_o and_o therefore_o he_o urge_v great_o the_o reason_n of_o his_o practice_n to_o draw_v disciple_n after_o he_o i_o wish_v the_o event_n be_v not_o as_o christ_n say_v to_o the_o pharisee_n matt._n 23.15_o you_o compass_n sea_n and_o land_n to_o make_v one_o proselyte_n and_o when_o he_o be_v make_v you_o make_v he_o twofold_a more_o the_o child_n of_o hell_n but_o 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what_o he_o have_v say_v will_v be_v the_o rule_n propose_v by_o himself_o but_o herein_o have_v not_o john_n bunyan_n forget_v himself_o pag._n 64._o he_o acknowledge_v water-baptism_n to_o be_v a_o ordinance_n of_o christ_n a_o holy_a ordinance_n a_o duty_n enjoin_v to_o such_o as_o have_v receive_v the_o gospel_n before_o yet_o now_o he_o deny_v it_o to_o be_v a_o discovery_n of_o faith_n and_o holiness_n or_o a_o declaration_n of_o willingness_n to_o subject_a to_o the_o law_n of_o christ_n in_o his_o church_n pag._n 122_o 123._o what_o impudent_a contradiction_n be_v here_o a_o ordinance_n of_o christ_n a_o holy_a ordinance_n a_o duty_n enjoin_v to_o gospel-receiver_n and_o yet_o no_o discovery_n of_o faith_n be_v not_o faith_n discover_v by_o work_n jam._n 2.17_o and_o by_o what_o work_v if_o not_o obedience_n to_o