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A49694 The Visitation, or, Long look'd-for comes at last in the submission of Mr. Baxter, Mr. Jenkins, and others, to the several parts of the Act of Uniformity. R. L. 1662 (1662) Wing L56D; ESTC R43335 9,919 33

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to govern the Church according to his own Conscience and to obey him in things not forbidden for Conscience sake Ibid. 2. As for Conformity If the spirit of the Ruler by Laws be stirred up against us or our opinions We ought not to leave our places Eccl. 10.4 Let us lay aside our opinions Ibid. and patiently bear the private disgrace of Conformity from some censorious ones rather than suffer our selves to be laid aside from the work of the Ministry and thereby hinder the publick profit and benefit which the Church of God might receive by us Bishop Whom do I see behind you methinks it is Dr. Preston Gouge It is he my Lord. Bishop Dr. Preston Your judgement is deservedly valued and practice exactly observed I pray what do you intend in reference to the Uniformity imposed in matter of Worship Preston A set Form may be used Abridgem p. 437 Christ prescribed a Form certain Psalms are Prayers and all along in the Churches there have been set Forms used I have submitted and will submit Bishop Be there any more at Door Messenger Here is Mr. Dod Mr. Cleaver Harris and Mr. Wheatley Bishop Mr. Dod will you subscribe Dod. I have for Peace Order and Conscience sake His Life always submitted my own private judgement to the publick determination of Authority in things indifferent Dr. Harris What say you Harris 1. These things need not be imposed Life but when they are imposed they must needs be entertained 2. Life and Sermon p. 17. I have always thought that a peaceable Christian might comply with any Government and Order offered since the Reformation Bishop What say you good Mr. Wheatley Wheatley The Authority ordained over men of God may put my body in what Posture and Cloaths they please Bride-Cloath It shall be my care to frame my soul and cloath that Messenger Mr. Vines is come Bishop Mr. Vines I hope we shall not lose you and your party what say you Sacrament 45. p. 1. Vines Most of the Ceremonies of our Church are antient and innocent the Government of it primitive 2. I remember we are in faece Romuli and when we cannot have what we will we must deny our selves so far as to will what we have This is not a state of perfection But I gave satisfaction in this point to His late Majesty at the Isle of Wight The London Ministers attend Devin Bishop Let them come in Mr. Caryl What do you intend to do Caryl Thus saith the Lord Stand in the ways ask for the old way which is the good way and you shall find rest to your sous The antient Customs of the Church not contrary to the Scripture may be allowed of In Job 33. the antient Rule of the Scripture must Bishop Mr. Venning How is it that you gave over doing good in the Church Milk Hony 145. Venning A man should not omit to do good when he hath nor commit evil though he have an opportunity to do it 2. Most men have a good opinion of their own opinion though their opinion be not good 3. A Christian needs walk circumspectly lest he give them that are without an occasion to offend or to them that are within an occasion of offence 4. It is to be feared Milk Hony 147. that they who turn their backs upon the Ordinances of God will at last turn their backs upon the God of Ordinances Bishop Mr. Brooks Will you leave the Ministry Brooks The love of Christ and of Souls doth constrain me Brooks Preface Apples Gold as there is an attractive so there is a compulsive virtue in divine love love to Christ and Souls will make a man willing to spend and be spent Solus amor nescit difficultates He that prays himself to death he that preacheth himself to death he that studieth himself to death for the good of Souls shall be no loser in the latter end Bishop I hope he that can preach himself to death for poor Souls sake may preach himself to order peace and obedience for their sakes too Bishop Mr. Burroughs You are a Peace-maker what are your thoughts of these affairs Burroughs 1. Much may be allowed to the supreme Authority Iren. p. 52.73.45 for Peace and Orders sake 2. Much may be allowed to one another for unanimity and agreement SECT II. Concerning the Covenant Bishop Call Nie in Nie What think you of the Covenant Nie. It is such an Oath as for matter Coven with Narrat p. 10. persons and other circumstances the like hath not been in any age we read of in any sacred or humane stories Bishop Do you think that the Covenant was lawfully imposed Nie. I pray my Lord hear the Parliament Pet right Car. 3. Long Parliament Whereas many of the people of this Realm have had an Oath imposed upon them not warrantable by the Laws and Statutes of this Realm We humbly pray That no man may hereafter be compelled to take such an Oath as our right and liberty according to the Statutes of this Realm Bishop Is any man obliged by this Covenant to alter the constitution of the Government Mr. Pym. As it is a crime odious in the nature of it Speech against E. Stra●● to endeavour the alteration of the Government of the State so it is odious in the judgment and estimation of the Law St. Johns argumens Ibid. to alter the setled frame and constitution of the Government is treason in any State Long Parliament It is malignancy to infuse into the people that we mean to abolish Church-Government Rem Dec 1641. Bishop Do you think Mr. Perkins that godly and reverend man and great Casuist would renounce the Covenant Let us bear him Perkins I would renounce any Oath that contradicts the Law of the Land Cases Conse p. 107. usurps the Magistrates power takes away the Liberty of the Subject and so is contrary to the word of God Ibid. 2. I would renounce any Oath which is made against the wholesome Laws of Government because every soul ought to be subject to the higher powers Rom. 13. 3. An Oath made by persons under tuition Ibid. who have not power to bind themselves obligeth not and we are not our own Numb 30.3 4. I 'le renounce an Oath that bindeth me to that which is not in my power Ibid. yea if at first it were lawful and after by some means becomes either impossible or unlawful when it becometh impossible then we may think that God himself hath from Heaven freed us form that Oath SECT III. Concerning Resisting the King Bishop Gentlemen Are you willing to declare it unlawful to raise Armes against the King upon any pretence Ministers of London We are resolved either chearfully to obey or patiently to submit Bishop What say you Mr Bates Sermon St. Dunst Jan. 30.60 Feb. 17. Bates A Patience and Meekness is the Crown of our Religion