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A74992 An ansvver to Mr. J.G. his XL. queries, touching the lawfulness, or unlawfulness of holding church-communion, between such who have been baptized after their beleeving, and others who have not otherwise been baptized, then in their infancie. As likewise touching infant, and after baptism. In which answer, the undueness of such mixt communion is declared, the unlawfulness of infant-baptism, and the necessity of after baptism is asserted. By W.A. Allen, William, d. 1686. 1653 (1653) Wing A1054A; Thomason E713_17; ESTC R207237 74,298 97

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church-member_n into_o church-fellowship_n without_o baptism_n to_o be_v a_o reason_n unto_o we_o likewise_o to_o steer_v the_o ●ame_n course_n unless_o we_o will_v say_v those_o gospel_n rule_v by_o which_o ●hey_n order_v themselves_o in_o those_o time_n be_v bind_v only_o to_o christian_n of_o the_o first_o ag●_n of_o the_o gospel_n but_o not_o to_o we_o now_o ●nd_v if_o so_o then_o farewell_n all_o go●p●●●_n obligation_n for_o if_o we_o may_v ●ake_v liberty_n to_o cast_v away_o one_o law_n of_o gospel_n order_n and_o worship_n then_o why_o not_o two_o and_o so_o three_o and_o in_o the_o end_n all_o ●o_o which_o indeed_o these_o l●sser_a beginning_n do_v true_o tend_v and_o i_o will_v to_o god_n it_o may_v be_v more_o consider_v and_o lay_v to_o heart_n querist_n how_o can_v this_o ever_o be_v prove_v that_o there_o be_v no_o believer_n unbaptise_v in_o the_o apostle_n day_n respon_n i_o know_v none_o that_o do_v affirm_v any_o such_o thing_n as_o that_o a_o be●ever_n be_v not_o at_o 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un●●●●_n baptize_v ●y_a those_o ●●ly_o 〈…〉_o have_v decline_v s●ch_a communion_n with_o they_o as_o that_o spe●●●●●_n respon_n believer_n now_o be_v doub●●●_n no_o 〈…〉_o believer_n be_v then_o i_o do_v not_o mean_v 〈…〉_o nu●●●●_n and_o if_o so_o than_o the_o same_o ground_n that_o do_v satisfi●●ap●●z●●_n believer_n then_o in_o not_o join_v in_o church_n fellowship_n 〈…〉_o unbaptised_a though_o they_o di●_n be●●eve_v 〈…〉_o for_o they_o do_v believe_v before_o they_o be_v baptize_v and_o yet_o be_v not_o admit_v into_o church_n communion_n till_o after_o baptize_v as_o be_v prove_v above_o will_v serve_v to_o satisfy_v baptize_v believer_n now_o touch_v the_o lawfulness_n of_o the_o same_o practice_n which_o be_v the_o will_n and_o appointment_n of_o jesus_n christ_n that_o so_o it_o shall_v be_v for_o in_o that_o we_o find_v such_o a_o thing_n practise_v with_o approbation_n of_o the_o apostle_n we_o may_v well_o conclude_v it_o to_o procee_v from_o their_o direction_n and_o instruction_n and_o consequent_o from_o the_o lord_n himself_o as_o we_o be_v teach_v to_o infer_v 1_o cor._n 14.37_o ii_o query_n whether_o can_v it_o be_v pro●ed_v from_o the_o scripture_n or_o by_o any_o argument_n like_a to_o satisfy_v the_o conscience_n of_o any_o tender_a and_o consider_v christian_n that_o the_o apostle_n or_o other_o christian_n in_o their_o day_n will_v have_v decline_v church_n communion_n with_o such_o person_n who_o they_o judge_v true_a believer_n in_o christ_n only_o because_o they_o have_v not_o be_v baptize_v after_o a_o profession_n of_o their_o believe_v respon_n it_o do_v not_o only_o appear_v that_o the_o apostle_n and_o other_o christian_n will_v have_v decline_v church-communion_n with_o believer_n because_o not_o baptize_v but_o it_o appear_v they_o do_v do_v it_o for_o it_o sufficient_o appear_v that_o man_n and_o woman_n do_v believe_v before_o they_o be_v baptize_v act._n 2.41_o &_o 8.12.37.38_o &_o 18_o 8._o with_o many_o other_o place_n and_o i_o hope_v it_o be_v prove_v to_o satisfaction_n in_o my_o answer_n to_o the_o first_o query_n that_o believer_n be_v not_o admit_v to_o church_n fellowship_n then_o till_o after_o baptize_v their_o believe_v notwithstanding_o if_o so_o what_o be_v a_o not_o admit_v less_o than_o a_o refuse_v to_o admit_v they_o to_o such_o communion_n the_o reason_n why_o the_o querist_n seem_v to_o conceive_v that_o the_o apostle_n and_o other_o christian_n will_v not_o have_v decline_v church-communion_n with_o believer_n only_o for_o their_o want_n of_o baptism_n run_v thus_o querist_n consider_v that_o the_o apostle_n paul_n express_o say_v that_o in_o jesus_n christ_n i_o e._n under_o the_o gospel_n or_o profession_n of_o jesus_n christ_n in_o the_o world_n neither_o circumcision_n avail_v any_o thing_n not_o uncircumcision_n but_o say_v which_o work_v by_o love_n gal._n 5.6_o and_o again_o that_o circumcision_n be_v nothing_o nor_o uncircumcision_n be_v nothing_o but_o the_o keep_n of_o the_o commandment_n of_o god_n 1_o cor._n 7.19_o meaning_n that_o under_o the_o gospel_n neither_o do_v the_o observation_n of_o any_o external_a rite_n or_o ceremony_n circumcision_n by_o a_o syneedothe_a specie_fw-la be_v but_o for_o all_o kind_n of_o external_a rite_n or_o ceremony_n avail_n or_o contribute_v any_o thing_n towards_o the_o commend_v of_o any_o person_n unto_o god_n nor_o yet_o the_o want_n of_o any_o such_o observation_n discommend_v any_o man_n unto_o god_n or_o prejudice_v his_o acceptation_n with_o he_o but_o that_o which_o be_v all_o in_o all_o unto_o man_n and_o which_o avail_v any_o thing_n in_o and_o under_o the_o gospel_n that_o which_o be_v find_v in_o man_n render_v they_o accept_v and_o approve_v of_o god_n and_o the_o want_n of_o it_o disapprove_v be_v such_o a_o kind_n of_o faith_n not_o such_o or_o such_o a_o kind_n of_o ceremony_n or_o such_o or_o such_o a_o kind_n of_o baptism_n which_o by_o the_o mediation_n or_o intervening_a of_o that_o heavenly_a affection_n of_o love_n utter_v and_o express_v itself_o in_o keep_v the_o commandment_n of_o god_n respon_n 1._o what_o do_v the_o querist_n mean_v when_o he_o say_v that_o under_o the_o gospel_n the_o observation_n of_o any_o external_a rite_n or_o ceremony_n avail_v a_o man_n nothing_o towards_o the_o commend_v of_o he_o to_o god_n nor_o do_v the_o want_n of_o it_o prejudice_v his_o acceptation_n with_o he_o do_v he_o mean_v that_o it_o do_v not_o avail_v he_o in_o any_o sense_n as_o one_o will_v suppose_v that_o be_v mind_v to_o take_v he_o in_o the_o worst_a sense_n since_o his_o assertion_n be_v indefinite_a but_o sure_o this_o be_v not_o his_o meaning_n since_o this_o will_v render_v the_o ordinance_n of_o the_o gospel_n baptism_n and_o the_o supper_n unprofitable_a and_o vain_a and_o thing_n but_o of_o like_a indifferency_n as_o be_v those_o meat_n of_o which_o the_o apostle_n say_v that_o if_o a_o man_n eat_v of_o they_o neither_o be_v he_o the_o better_a or_o if_o he_o eat_v not_o neither_o be_v he_o the_o worse_a 1_o cor._n 8.8_o but_o i_o presume_v rather_o that_o he_o mean_v that_o they_o avail_v not_o comparative_o or_o else_o in_o the_o business_n of_o justification_n our_o wat_fw-mi then_o will_v it_o follow_v that_o because_o these_o external_a rite_n baptism_n and_o the_o like_a do_v not_o avail_v unto_o man_n justification_n when_o they_o be_v observe_v that_o therefore_o they_o be_v not_o necessary_a unto_o church-communion_n for_o do_v the_o external_a rite_n of_o circumcision_n under_o the_o law_n which_o be_v the_o thing_n by_o which_o the_o querist_n calculate_v the_o validity_n of_o baptism_n under_o the_o gospel_n avail_v any_o more_o to_o justification_n th●n_a baptism_n do_v now_o and_o yet_o how_o irrelative_a soever_o it_o be_v to_o justification_n yet_o it_o be_v so_o necessary_a as_o to_o church-communion_n as_o that_o church-communion_n wa●_n not_o to_o be_v have_v w●●hout_n it_o gen._n 17.4_o exod._n 12.48_o if_o so_o then_o how_o 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of_o god_n in_o the_o gospel_n luk._n 7.30_o and_o how_o a_o refuse_v the_o baptism_n of_o christ_n can_v by_o the_o same_o rule_n be_v deem_v less_o i_o understand_v not_o unless_o you_o will_v suppose_v that_o the_o counsel_n of_o god_n be_v not_o in_o the_o baptism_n of_o christ_n as_o well_o as_o in_o the_o baptism_n of_o john_n 2._o why_o shall_v our_o querist_n estimate_v the_o apostle_n judgement_n of_o gospel_n rite_n by_o what_o he_o speak_v of_o circumcision_n since_o the_o one_o be_v abolish_v and_o the_o other_o establish_v by_o the_o same_o gospel_n or_o do_v it_o follow_v that_o because_o the_o apostle_n do_v oppose_v faith_n to_o circumcision_n that_o therefore_o faith_n must_v be_v oppose_v to_o gospell-ordinance_n or_o external_a rite_n as_o he_o call_v they_o do_v not_o a_o gospel_n faith_n exclude_v circumcision_n and_o yet_o include_v baptism_n as_o it_o do_v all_o other_o precept_n of_o the_o gospel_n and_o therefore_o pity_v it_o be_v that_o such_o friend_n as_o faith_n and_o gospell-rite_n be_v shall_v be_v set_v together_o by_o the_o ear_n 3._o why_o do_v the_o querist_n make_v circumcision_n a_o gospel-rite_n which_o be_v indeed_o a_o rite_n abolish_v by_o the_o gospel_n or_o do_v not_o he_o account_v it_o a_o gospell-rite_n when_o he_o say_v that_o under_o the_o gospel_n circumcision_n by_o a_o synecdoche_n specie_fw-la be_v put_v for_o all_o kind_n of_o external_a rite_n or_o ceremony_n or_o which_o i_o think_v be_v the_o same_o that_o under_o the_o gospel_n and_o the_o profession_n thereof_o neither_o do_v the_o observation_n of_o any_o external_a rite_n or_o cer●mony_n circumcision_n by_o a_o synecdoche_n specie_fw-la be_v put_v for_o all_o kind_n of_o external_a rite_n and_o ceremony_n etc._n etc._n and_o if_o for_o all_o kind_n then_o certain_o for_o gospell-rite_n and_o ceremony_n for_o they_o be_v some_o of_o all_o neither_o sure_o will_v any_o man_n much_o less_o the_o querist_n be_v so_o impertinent_a as_o to_o assert_v no_o 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gospell-rite_n i._n e._n of_o the_o same_o kind_n with_o they_o and_o as_o a_o part_n of_o they_o then_o why_o do_v he_o not_o practice_v it_o as_o such_o or_o if_o he_o judge_v it_o to_o be_v none_o of_o they_o then_o why_o do_v he_o make_v it_o a_o synecdoche_n specie_fw-la of_o they_o or_o why_o do_v he_o estimate_v all_o gospell-rite_n and_o ceremony_n by_o that_o and_o by_o what_o be_v say_v by_o the_o apostle_n concern_v that_o i_o confess_v i_o shall_v as_o well_o as_o the_o querist_n hold_v it_o a_o unreasonable_a thing_n for_o any_o baptize_v believer_n to_o disclaim_v church-communion_n with_o those_o that_o be_v unbaptise_v only_o because_o unbaptise_v if_o i_o deem_v a_o man_n be_v unbaptise_v of_o no_o worse_a consequence_n than_o his_o being_n not_o circumcise_v true_o i_o can_v but_o think_v that_o cause_n hard-bested_n that_o be_v fain_o to_o beg_v its_o bread_n out_o of_o such_o desolate_a place_n as_o be_v that_o of_o circumcision_n for_o one_o who_o foundation_n be_v long_o since_o raze_v by_o the_o hand_n of_o the_o gospel_n to_o the_o very_a ground_n 4._o and_o last_o but_o why_o also_o do_v the_o querist_n oppose_v the_o rite_n and_o ceremony_n of_o the_o gospel_n or_o under_o the_o gospel_n to_o the_o keep_n of_o the_o commandment_n of_o god_n or_o do_v not_o he_o do_v so_o who_o make_v the_o observation_n of_o the_o rite_n or_o ceremony_n of_o the_o gospel_n to_o avail_v nothing_o towards_o the_o commend_v of_o a_o man_n to_o god_n and_o yet_o withal_o do_v make_v the_o keep_n of_o the_o commandment_n of_o god_n as_o proceed_v from_o faith_n available_a hereunto_o which_o constructive_o clear_o suppose_v the_o rite_n and_o ceremony_n of_o the_o gospel_n to_o be_v none_o of_o the_o commandment_n of_o god_n that_o the_o querist_n make_v the_o keep_n of_o the_o commandment_n of_o god_n as_o proceed_v from_o faith_n available_a as_o to_o a_o man_n acceptation_n with_o god_n in_o that_o very_a sense_n in_o which_o he_o have_v utter_o deny_v the_o observation_n of_o gospell-rite_n and_o ceremony_n to_o be_v available_a appear_v plain_o in_o these_o word_n of_o he_o viz._n but_o that_o which_o be_v all_o in_o all_o unto_o man_n and_o which_o avail_v any_o thing_n in_o an●_n under_o the_o gospel_n that_o which_o be_v find_v in_o man_n ●endred_v they_o accept_v and_o approve_v with_o god_n and_o the_o want_n of_o it_o disapprove_v be_v such_o a_o kind_n of_o faith_n not_o such_o or_o such_o a_o kind_n of_o cer●mony_n or_o such_o or_o such_o a_o kind_n of_o baptism_n which_o by_o the_o mediation_n or_o intervening_a of_o that_o heavenly_a affection_n of_o love_n utter_v and_o express_v itself_o in_o keep_v the_o commandment_n of_o god_n so_o that_o the_o rite_n and_o ceremony_n of_o the_o gospel_n baptism_n be_v there_o name_v for_o one_o according_a to_o the_o tenor_n of_o this_o writing_n must_v be_v none_o of_o the_o commandment_n of_o god_n which_o yet_o i_o dare_v say_v be_v none_o of_o his_o opinion_n or_o else_o the_o keep_n of_o they_o as_o produce_v by_o faith_n and_o love_n must_v be_v available_a to_o a_o man_n acceptation_n with_o god_n as_o well_o as_o the_o keep_n of_o any_o other_o his_o command_n which_o yet_o to_o say_v and_o it_o be_v the_o truth_n do_v utter_o contradict_v what_o be_v say_v before_o in_o deny_v the_o observation_n of_o the_o ceremony_n of_o the_o gospel_n to_o be_v available_a unto_o any_o such_o purpose_n iii_o query_n whether_o can_v it_o be_v prove_v by_o any_o text_n or_o passage_n of_o scripture_n either_o direct_o or_o by_o any_o tolerable_a consequence_n that_o christian_a church_n be_v in_o the_o apostle_n day_n constitute_v by_o baptism_n or_o that_o none_o be_v repute_v member_n of_o church_n or_o admit_v into_o christian_a communion_n with_o those_o who_o be_v baptize_v but_o only_o such_o wh●_n be_v baptize_v likewise_o respon_n it_o have_v be_v already_o prove_v as_o i_o conceive_v in_o the_o answer_n to_o the_o first_o qu●ry_n by_o some_o text_n or_o passage_n of_o scripture_n either_o direct_o or_o by_o some_o tolerable_a consequence_n or_o rather_o both_o direct_o and_o also_o by_o clear_a and_o pregnant_a consequence_n that_o christian_a churche●_n be_v in_o the_o apostle_n day_n constitute_v if_o not_o by_o baptism_n yet_o ●ut_v without_o baptism_n and_o consequent_o that_o none_o be_v 〈◊〉_d into_o church_n fellowship_n but_o such_o as_o be_v baptize_v a●●_n 〈◊〉_d ●efore_o have_v prove_v this_o already_o it_o be_v not_o necessary_a to_o 〈…〉_o but_o because_o such_o a_o thing_n as_o this_o be_v not_o so_o 〈…〉_o i●_n the_o eye_n of_o those_o that_o plead_v it_o as_o the_o que●_n 〈…〉_o in_o those_o word_n follow_v where_o he_o say_v that_o that_o text_n act_v 2.41_o be_v common_o and_o only_o so_o far_o as_o he_o know_v precede_v for_o proof_n of_o such_o a_o thing_n i_o shall_v brief_o point_v to_o several_a other_o text_n by_o which_o it_o will_v appear_v that_o the_o church_n i●_n the_o apostle_n day_n be_v not_o constitute_v without_o baptism_n that_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n be_v baptize_v and_o therefore_o not_o constitute_v without_o baptism_n appear_v rom._n 6.3_o and_o so_o the_o church_n of_o corinth_n the_o first_o beginning_n of_o that_o church_n so_o far_o as_o we_o read_v of_o its_o beginning_n be_v lay_v in_o baptism_n act_v 8.8_o 1_o cor._n 1.13.14.15.16_o &_o 12.13_o so_o the_o church_n of_o galatia_n gal._n 3.27_o the_o church_n of_o ephesus_n act_v 19.1.5_o be_v sure_o begin_v by_o those_o twelve_o disciple_n who_o paul_n baptize_v or_o some_o that_o be_v with_o he_o so_o also_o the_o first_o foundation_n of_o the_o church_n at_o philippi_n be_v lay_v in_o baptism_n for_o lydia_n and_o her_o household_n the_o gaoler_n and_o his_o household_n as_o you_o will_v perceive_v by_o that_o part_n of_o history_n act_v 16._o from_o ver_fw-la