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A26914 The difference between the power of magistrates and church-pastors and the Roman kingdom & magistracy under the name of a church & church-government usurped by the Pope, or liberally given him by popish princes opened by Richard Baxter. Baxter, Richard, 1615-1691. 1671 (1671) Wing B1241; ESTC R3264 44,016 63

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difference as Christ hath appointed us to make And doth our Baptismal Covenant contain no promise and profession of godliness and obedience as well as of Belief and so of Repentance and a better life 2. Who would you have to be Judge in this matter Shall every one be Judge himself Then all Pagans Murderers Blasphemers may come in and turn Religion and the Church into a scorn If any must judge you would not sure set the Magistrates or people such a task on pain of damnation to leave their Calling to try and judge of the qualifications of expectants or Church-members 3. Whom do you think Christ committed this business to Who were the Judges of the Capacity of persons to be baptized or the desert of persons to be rejected Diotrophes could not have rejected Christians injuriously if he had not then had some Governing power 4. Hath not all Christs Church exercised such a Discipline as I have described since the Apostles days till now saving the corruption of it by ill additions or carnal neglects And hath all this Church been from the beginning under a false Government in the main Or is not Reformation a righter way than extirpation of Discipline as well as of Doctrine and Worship 5. Is it not the wickedness of Christians that is the chief hardening of Turks and other Infidels against Christianity And would they not encrease this pollution that would have the most vicious to be equally received with the best 6. Is not Faith for Holiness and did not Christ come to purifie a peculiar people and restore us to the Image of God And if for want of Discipline Saints and Swine be equally Church-members and partakers of holy things is that agreeable to this design of our Redeemer 7. If Oeconomical Government and School Government and Colledge Government be no wrong to Kings neither is the Church Government which Christ hath instituted I do not say all this to intimate that you say the contrary But because your Charge on Luther Calvin and other Protestants sheweth that you do sure mistake them And to tell you that I joyn with you in disowning the KINGDOM and Magistracy of the Mock-Church of Rome and of all that will imitate them But that I take the Enmity to and grosse neglect of true Church-Discipline to be one of Satans principal services that is done him upon earth against true Godliness The Churches and the Magistrates Power stated in matters of Religion In an hundred Propositions which almost all sober Protestant Teachers are agreed in A Reconciliation of the sober Episcopal Presbyterians Independents and Erastians To my very Learned sincere and worthy Friend Ludovicus Molinaeus Dr. of Physick The Author of many Treatises on this subject Dear Sir UPON the perusal of your Writings which you sent me the love of the Church and of Truth and Peace and you doth command me to tell you as followeth 1. That I make no question but that the Pride of the Clergy with their Covetousness hath for above twelve hundred years been a greater plague to the Churches throughout the Christian world than all the cruelties of the Laity And that the sensless forgetting the matter and manner of Christs decision of his Apostles Controversie Which of them should be the greatest hath divided the East and West and corrupted and kept down Religion whilest that the lives of the Prelates have perswaded the observers that they still took it for a more important Question Which of them should be the greatest than Whether they or their people should be saved And it hath ever been a matter of easie remarque that there have been seldom any dangerous Schisms on one side or any cruel Persecutions on the other side which the Clergy have not been the principal causes of And that the Laity would be more quiet if the Clergy did not delude them or exasperate them And that even the more mistaken and violent sort of Magistrates would have some moderation in their Persecutions if the Clergy did not make them believe that a burning killing Zeal is the mark of a good Christian and is the same that in Tit. 2. 14. is called a zeal of good works and that to destroy the bodies of men truly fearing God is the way to save their own souls or their Dominions at least when indeed the zeal of Christs commanding is a zealous Love to one another and a zealous doing good to others and the Devilish zeal as St. James distinguisheth it James 2. 15 16 17. is an envious hating hurting zeal 2. That in all this the Laity are not innocent but must thank themselves for the evil that befalleth them and that on two notable accounts 1. Because they have ordinarily the choosing of the dignified and beneficed Churchmen and they have but such as they choose themselves They think it is their wisdom as well as piety to make the Honour and Profit so great as shall be a very strong bait to Pride and Covetousness And when they have so done the Proudest and most Covetous will certainly be the Seekers and that with as much craft and diligence as an ambitious mind can use their parts to And he that seeketh by himself and friends is likest to find And the more humble and heavenly any one is and consequently most honest and fit to be a Pastor of the Church the further he will be from the Seekers way So that except it be where the world hath Rulers so wise and strangely pious as to seek out the worthy who seek not for themselves its easie to prognosticate what kind of Pastors the Church will have And verily they that choose them are the unfittest to complain of them Whereas if the Churches maintenance were such as might but prevent the discouragements of such as seek the Ministry for the works sake and for the love of souls that so Students might not make it a Trade for wealth but a self-denying dedication of themselves to God the Churches would be accordingly provided And they that intend the saving of souls would be the Candidates by their own and their Parents dedication as now they that intend a Trade to live and serve the flesh by in an honourable way are too great a part of them Or men might be further rewarded ex post facto for their Merits without being tempted to study principally for that reward And if we will needs have carnal men let us not wonder if they live carnally And if the carnal mind be enmity to God and neither is nor can be subject to his Law Rom. 8. 6 7. we may easily prognosticate how Christs enemies will do his work and guide his Church and whether their wills and wayes will be such as the conscionable can conform to 3. And the Laity are unexcusable because it is they in all those Countreys where Popery and Church-tyranny prevaileth who put their Sword into the Clergies hands and give away their own authority and set up men to vie