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A14688 A treatise of Antichrist Conteyning the defence of Cardinall Bellarmines arguments, which inuincibly demonstrate, that the pope is not Antichrist. Against M. George Downam D. of Diuinity, who impugneth the same. By Michael Christopherson priest. The first part. Walpole, Michael, 1570-1624? 1613 (1613) STC 24993; ESTC S114888 338,806 434

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to delude his Reader either by scoffiing or any other lewd trick he could deuise for lightly he could not inuēt a worse then to scoffe at Gods Saints and particulerly at those to whom we are most behoulding among which in the first place S. Gregory is to be accompted for the great loue he bare to all English men and the great good he procured them for which he is worthily called and honoured as the Apostle of our Nation 8. Finally M. Downam answereth to Bellarmines reason that of Enoch Elias their translation there is this reason that there might be euident examples of reward and happines laid vp both for the vpright in Enoch and for the zealous in Elias of their yet liuing in mortall bodyes if they did so according to the opinion of some of the Fathers that reason might be giuen which they alleadge to witt to conuert Downam maketh Enochs translation an example of vprightnes contrary to Scripture the Iewes Where in the first part I only note that M. Downā maketh Enoch an example for the vpright wheras the Scripture maketh him an example of pēnance But indeed according to this explication he may as I noted before be aswell an example of the one as of the other yea hardly of pennance since we read none he did but rather that he was alway vpright and iust But now the second reason which only maketh to the purpose is the same which Bellarmine vrgeth if M. Downam vnderstandeth it aright as the Fathers held it to wit that these two witnesses shall labour to conuert the Iewes at the end of the world when Antichrist shall most labour to peruert them which wil be to oppose themselues to him Wherefore M. Downam thought best to retire himselfe Downam reiecteth the Fathers and to tell the Fathers flatlie that it is vntrue which they say that they liue in mortall bodies or that they shall euer dye and he offereth to dispute this matter with them And first he asketh them where they liue in mortall bodies To which S. Augustine lib. 2. de peccato originali cap. 23. answereth That S. Augustine answereth to Downās obiection this is one of those questions which pertayne not to Faith where Enoch Elias are quostamen non dubitamus in quibus nati sunt corporibus viuere whome notwithstanding wee doubt not to liue in the bodies in which they were borne By which oppositiō he plainly declareth that he taketh this to be a matter of Faith And in the same place he testifieth that Christian saith doubteth not but that the paradise where Adam was placed is though it be doubtfull wher or in what maner it is all which is alleadged by Bellar. lib. de gratia primi hominis cap. 14. to proue that paradise is yet extant but I cānot find that distinction which M. Downam bringeth out of him lib. 1. de Sanct. beat c. 3. that although the place remaine yet no paradise remaineth in the former place he seemeth to teath altogeather the contray Secondly if they be in the earthly paradise and not in heauen he asketh how it is said of Elias that hee was taken vp into Heauen To which demaund S. Gregorie will answere him if he may be so bould Hom. 29. in Euang. Aliud est caelum aëreū S. Gregorie āswereth another aliud aethereum c. vnde aues caeli dicimus c. In caelum aëreum Elias subleuatus est vt in secretam quandam terrae regionem repentè duceretur vbi cum magna iam carnis spiritus quiete viueret quousque ad finem mundi redeat mortis debitum soluat Ille etenim mortem distulit non euasit The ayre is also called Heauen for which cause we say the byrdes of heauen according to the phrase of Scripture and into this heauen was El as taken vp that he might forthwith be carried into a certaine secret Region of the earth where he might lyue in great quiet of bodie and mind till he returneth at the end of the world and payeth death his due for he hath deferred not escaped death Where also M. Downam may learne what priuiledge Enoch and Helias haue aboue others and how Enoch was said to haue byn translated that he should not see death to wit at Heb. 11. that tyme nor according to the course of nature thē which a great deale lesse is sufficient that one hath escaped death And if M. Downā be capable of so high and perfect doctrine A great happinesse to be put to death by Anticrist heere hee may be tould that Enoch and Helias thinke it no misery but an exceeding great happynesse that they shal be put to death by Antichrist by reason of the great desire they haueto doe and suffer whatsoeuer for the loue of God and this not for the reward which they expect at his hand but because he deserueth much more then we are able to performe 9. But I will conclude leauing the indifferent Reader to iudge whether it hath not byn sufficiently proued that Enoch Elias are still in their bodies and that their bodies are mortall that they are to returne into the world and die and that in the tyme of Antichrist to oppose themselues against him and consequentlie that Antichrist is not yet come which if he iudgeth to be so as I perswade myselfe he cānot otherwise choose I will also craue him to Downās bragging giue his verdict of M. Downam whether he thinke him more foolish or impudent to deny all these particularyties with this flourishing bragge Must not this needes be a good cause that by so learned a man is so stoutlie prooued THE SEAVENTH CHAPTER Conteyning the fourth demonstration THE fourth demonstratiō saith Bellarmine is taken frō Antichrists persecution which certainely will be most grieuous and manifest so that all publique cerimonies and sacrifices of Religion shall cease none of which thinges wee see hitherto That this persecution shal be most gricuious is manifest by Matth. 24. Then there shal be a great Tribulation the like wherof hath not bene from the beginning of the world nor shall be And Apoc. 20. where we reade that Sathan shal be then loosed who vntill that tyme was bound Of which place S. Augustine disputing l. 20. de Ciuitate Dei cap. 8. and 9. saith that in Antichrists tyme the Diuell is to be loosed and therfore that persecution shal be more grieuous then all the former by how much the Diuel can rage more cruelly being loosed then being bound Wherfore he saith that the Diuell then shall vexe the Church with al his owne his followers forces and S. Hippolytus Mart. in orat de mundi consum S. Cyril catechesi 15. do say that the Martyrs which Antichrist shall put to death shal be more renowned then all those which went before because they fought against men the diuells ministers but these shall fight against the Diuell himselfe persecuting in