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A47172 A seasonable information and caveat against a scandalous book of Thomas Elwood, called An epistle to Friends, &c. by George Keith. Keith, George, 1639?-1716.; Raunce, John, 17th cent. 1694 (1694) Wing K203; ESTC R674 41,164 46

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glad to have kept Meetings with many or most of the People of the Meeting of the other side after the Separation was begun believing and knowing that they were in great measure beguiled and led astray by their Leaders that they were too much given up to follow yet retaining a measure of Simplicity but we could not meet with them in Peace after their Leaders on the other side had begun the Separation not having freedom given us or Permission peaceably to exercise our gift among them but were always interrupted and molested when we met together and otherwise most unchristianly abused And thus I hope I have sufficiently shewed the good Consistency betwixt my saying I and my Friends had Unity with the most there at that Meeting considering the Circumstances then of that Meeting and yet did remain in a Separation both of Spirit and outward Fellowship from many of that Meeting both then and since and the same Answer here given may serve to answer the same Objection and Accusation made against us very unduely in the Book called The Christian Doctrine and Society of the People called Quakers page 18. of the said Book XXIII page 47. His Perversion of my words about the word many and very many in my saying it was my charitable Perswasion that the worthy Name Christian doth belong to very many of that People where by very many he construeth my Sense to be only these few I had an experimental proof of through intimate Conversation and frequent verbal Communication with since I came last into England But this is a gross Forgery and Perversion for I did really mean not them only but all them whom I have at any time formerly bad Experience of their Christianity by intimate Conversation and verbal Communication either in England or any other part of the World that have given me no occasion to think otherwise of them as many have not though some have and my Charity leads me to believe and judge that there are very many called Quakers that are true Christians both in Faith and Practice that I have had no outward knowledge of but I cannot in Charity esteem them Christians who have unchristian'd themselves either by their bold and open contradicting the great Truths of Christianity or by their persecuting and otherwise unjust and wicked Practises XXIV page 48. His Perversion of my words that though I said in my last Book called The causless ground c. I have not charged the People called Quakers either in the general or in the plurality he will needs have it to be understood only of these few I have intimately conversed with since I came last into England Oh! How hath prejudice blinded him But how can he or I either be positive to say the People called Quakers are good Christians either in general or in the plurality when Geo. Whitehead hath told us in his printed Epistle printed about four years ago at London and was re-printed in Penstlvania called A Christian Epistle to Friends in geneneral c. That few sincerely seek the Lord c. And very few have their Minds and Spirits really and inwardly exercised in frequent Prayer and daily Supplications to God or in heavenly Meditation or spiritual Contemplations in Gods pure and spiritual Laws Ways Judgments and Works or in holy Scriptures by the Holy Spirit which opens them but too many have their Minds Hearts and Affections taken up with these fading Objects and things below or overcharged with the love of Riches Ca●es and Cumbers of this Life to compass the Earth wherein many a good Talent has been hid and poor Soul buried in Captivity And concerning Friends Children and young Persons he saith It 's but few in Comparison that come in at that door viz. the work of Regeneration And who will say that the worthy Name of Christian doth belong to such And yet by G. W's charge they must be at least the plurality when very few do otherwise though some formality and something of the form of Truth as he saith they may have by outward Education But let none think I blame G. W. in this it may be a true charge for what I know to the contrary but why should I be so much blamed for charging neither the generality nor plurality but some particulars when he hath charged many more with things as bad as Errors in Principles and that publickly in Print beside that Errors in Practise do commonly go along with Errors in Principle But it seems strange to many as well as to me that Errors in Principle as Pride vanity of Apparel Covetousness Envy Backbiting may without offence be publickly reproved by word of Mouth in Meetings and also in Print but Errors in Principle must not be reproved and witnessed against either in publick Meetings or in Printed Books Do Errors in Practise as Pride vanity of Apparel Covetousness Envy and the like when publickly witnessed against in Print or in Meetings open the Mouths of Adversaries and grieve faithful Friends less than Errors in Principles unless it be said that reproving Errors in Principles reflect upon the Preachers but reproving Errors in Practise reflect only upon the People but if any of the Preachers be guilty why may they not and ought they not to be as publickly reproved as the People unless we respect Persons and that both for their Error in Doctrine and Practise Is it not a just charge upon some called Preachers which Christ charged upon the Scribes and Pharisees They loved the Praise of Men more than the Praise of God and therefore cannot beat to be reproved for it hath been the general default of Teachers and Leaders of the People in former times to hide their own Faults and expose the Faults of others especially of such as did not flatter them and gave them not honour enough before Men. And nothing can be said against my Printed Books in reference to my publick witnessing again the Errors in Principles whereof some are guilty in Pensilvania and elsewhere but what may be as much said against G. Whitehead his reproving these great Vices and Immoralities among many called Friends having the Name and form of Truth Have my Books tended to the dishonor of God disservice to Truth reproach and grief of Friends for my Printing against the vile Errors whereof some called Friends are guilty And hath not G. Whiteheads printed Epistle had as much that tendency for his printing against the vile Practises of many more than ever I charged But in reality I judge and many others do judge that the faithful witnessing against Mens gross and vile Errors either in Doctrine or Practise is no proper and direct cause of such Effects as the dishonour of God the disservice of Truth the reproach and grief of Friends but on the contrary the proper and direct cause of Gods being honoured Truth cleared the Reproach removed and faithful Friends comforted with a publick Testimony borne against such publick Sins and