Selected quad for the lemma: lord_n

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lord_n	write_n	write_v	year_n	127	3	4.3846	3	false

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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A83515	The third part of Gangræna. Or, A new and higher discovery of the errors, heresies, blasphemies, and insolent proceedings of the sectaries of these times; with some animadversions by way of confutation upon many of the errors and heresies named. ... Briefe animadversions on many of the sectaries late pamphlets, as Lilburnes and Overtons books against the House of Peeres, M. Peters his last report of the English warres, The Lord Mayors farewell from his office of maioralty, M. Goodwins thirty eight queres upon the ordinance against heresies and blasphemies, M. Burtons Conformities deformity, M. Dells sermon before the House of Commons; ... As also some few hints and briefe observations on divers pamphlets written lately against me and some of my books, ... / By Thomas Edvvards Minister of the Gospel.; Gangraena. Part 3	Edwards, Thomas, 1599-1647.	1646 (1646)	Wing E237; Thomason E368_5; ESTC R201273	294,455	360

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readiness_n to_o hear_v the_o grievan●s_n of_o the_o subject_n and_o their_o power_n plead_v for_o and_o that_o by_o lilburne_n himself_o pag._n 74_o 75._o of_o his_o pamphlet_n call_v innocency_n and_o ●ruth_n justify_v where_o plead_v to_o have_v his_o business_n of_o his_o sentence_n in_o star-chamber_n to_o be_v transmit_v up_o to_o the_o lord_n from_o the_o he_o use_v of_o commons_o by_o way_n of_o answer_n to_o objection_n against_o it_o he_o have_v these_o word_n if_o i_o be_v transmit_v up_o to_o the_o lord_n i_o confident_o believe_v i_o shall_v get_v forward_o out_o of_o the_o former_a experience_n of_o that_o justice_n that_o i_o have_v find_v there_o and_o i_o will_v instance_n two_o particular_n first_o when_o i_o be_v prisoner_n in_o the_o fleet_n etc._n etc._n but_o that_o be_v too_o long_o for_o i_o to_o write_v down_o and_o i_o shall_v rather_o refer_v the_o reader_n to_o the_o book_n pag._n 74._o second_o may_v 4._o 1641._o the_o king_n accuse_v i_o of_o high_a 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