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A02208 The dialogues of S. Gregorie, surnamed the Greate: Pope of Rome: and the first of that name deuided into fower bookes. Wherein he intreateth of the liues, and miracles of the saintes in Italie: and of the eternitie of mens soules. With a shorte treatise of sundry miracles, wrought at the shrines of martyrs: taken out of S. Augustin. Together with a notable miracle wrought by S. Bernard, in confirmation of diuers articles of religion. Translated into our English tongue by P.W.; Dialogi. Part 1. English Gregory I, Pope, ca. 540-604.; Woodward, Philip, ca. 1557-1610.; Augustine, Saint, Bishop of Hippo. De civitate Dei. Book 22. Chapter 8. English. 1608 (1608) STC 12349; ESTC S121026 216,240 619

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returne shunned and was affraide to goe vnto fuch places as were there about by reason of the intollerable concurse of people The first miracle which Christ An other miracle som what like the former thought done before it takē out of the same place Chap. shewed by his seruant in the citie of Tolosa was the curinge of a clergie man sicke of the palsey The man of God visiting this sicke person about the closing of the eueninge in the house of the Canon regulars of Sainte Saturninus being him selfe one of them and this at the request of the Abbote and brethren he founde him ready to dy as it were drawing of his last breath After he had comforted the afflicted man and giuene him his blessinge he departed and as him selfe after warde confessed the faithfull seruant spake vnto our Lord in his harte with greate confidence and faith saying What dost thow expect ô Lorde God This generation seeketh for miracles otherwise our wordes haue the lesse force with them vnlesse they be confirmed by the with signes that followe them That same verie howre● the man sicke of the palsey leaped out of his bedde and by running hauing ouertaken him he imbraced his feete with all deuotion One of the Canōs vpon a suddaine meeting with this man was so terrified that he cried out verily thinking him to be some ghost For how coulde he beleeue that he was̄ able to haue risen from his bedde and therfore supposing rather that his soule was departed the body and so appeared vnto him for verie feare he ran awaye But at length the veritie of the thinge it selfe caused both him and others to beleeue it The brethren vnderstanding these newes made hast to be partakers of so pleasaunt a sighte The Bishoppe also him selfe and the Legate came rūning amōgest the first Away they went to the church the man that was restored to health going before them There they brake forth with loude voices into the praises of God the man him selfe singing together with them The people rounde aboute came thronging in Christ is blessed the faith triumpheth heretickes are confounded piety reioiseth impietie fretteth and pineth awaye Because a fewe pages goode Reader remayned vacant I haue added these miracles folowing taken out of auncient and authentical authors OF A IEVVES CHILDE MIRAculously preserued by vertue of the holy Saecrament and patronage of our blessed ●uagrius ●ued a●out the ●are of ●hrist 600 This Mē●as was ●ishoppe ●Cōstannople Ladie written by Euagrius in his 4. booke chap. 35. IN the tyme of * Mennas a notable miracle worthy of memory happened at Constantinople They had there an auncient custome that when very many little hostes of the pure and immaculate body of Christ our Lord remayned to send for young children that went to schole to the end they might receiue them which being done it fell so out vpon a tyme that the childe of a certaine Iewe who was a glasse-maker went amongst them Who being demanded of his parents why he had staied so longe tolde them the truthe saying that he had also eaten in the company of other childrē The Iewe at this newes inflamed with choler extreme rage threw the boy into the burning furnace in which he vsed tomake glasses But the mother after long seeking not finding her childe went vp downe all the city praying to God with much sigthing and lamentable weepinge After three daies standing at the dore of her husbandes shoppe with greate griefe and torment of mynde she called her sonne by his name The boy hearinge his mothers voice answered her out of the furnace The mother breakinge open the doores with greate hast entred in where she sawe her childe standing in the middest of those hote burning coales without any hurt at all and demanding by what meanes he was preserued from all harme A woman It is most likely that this woman was our Blessed Ladie quoth he cloathed in purple cam often to me which gaue me water to quench the flaming fire next aboute my body and brought me also meate so often as I was hungry This miracle comming to the eares of Iustinian the Emperor he gaue order to haue the childe together with the mother baptized and commanded that the father who refused to become a Christian shoulde be crucified in a place called Syris OF THE MIRACVLOVS IMAGE of our Sauiour taken out of Eusebius ●usebius liued in the tyme of Costan ●ine about the yeare of our Lord 320. Math. 9. v. 20. the 7. booke chap. 14. and Sozomenus IT is saide that the woman which was troubled with an yssewe of bloude and was cured by our Sauiour as we reade in the Gospell was borne in Cesarea Philippi and that her house is there to be seene and that certayne admirable monumētes of our Sauiours benefits towardes her and as it were ioyfull recordes do remayne euene to these our dayes For before the dores of her house there standeth vpon an high bancke of stones the brasen image of a womā vpon her knees holding vp her handes like one that humbly craued for some thinge Right ouer against it there is an other image of a man made likewise of brasse comely attired with his garment downe to the ankles putting forth his hand towardes the woman at whose feete The reuerentvse of images confirmed by miracle there groweth out of the bancke a strange vnknowne kinde of herbe which when it commeth so highe that it toucheth the hemme of the brasen garment it hath force and power to cure all kinde of diseases This image they saye representeth Iesus Christe which contineweth vntill these our daies and my selfe trauailing to that city did see it with myne owne eies Neither is it to be maruailed that the gentils which receiued benefites from our Sauiour whiles he liued in this worlde did erect such monumentes when as I haue sene the images of the Apostles Peter and Paul and of Christ Note the antiquity of images him selfe represented in pictures with varietye of coloures and kept to these verie tymes of ours VVHAT HAPPENED CONCERNINGE this image after the tyme of Eusebius Sozomenus in his 5. booke chap. 20. Sozomenus liued in the yea re 420. reporteth in these wordes IVlian the Apostata hauing intelligēce that there was a famous image of Christ at Cesarea Philippi sett vp by that woman which was troubled with an ysse we of bloude after she was deliuered from that disease commanded it to be ouerthrowne and his owne to be placed in steade thereof which being done fire falling from heauen cutt his image in sunder aboute the 〈◊〉 of sa●●●ma 〈◊〉 pūni●ed fr●m 〈◊〉 breast and threwe the heade tog●her with the necke vpon the grou●de and did beate the face into the e●rth in that part which was broken of f●om the breast Since which tyme to this d●ye it remayneth blacke as thoughe it had bene burnt with fire At that tyme the Pagans drewe the image of Christ with such violence that they brake it in peeces But the Christians afterward gathering the fragments together laide them in the church where they doe still remayne FINIS
his none of the other monkes euer vnderstoode But at lengthe it came forth by this meanes for falling grieuously sicke so that no hope of life remayned he caused all the monkes of the Conuent to be called together who all willingly came verily thincking that at the departure of so notable a man they shoulde haue hearde some sweete and goode exhortation but it fell out farr otherwise for with great trouble of minde and tremblinge of bodye he was inforced to tell them that he died in a damnable state saying when you thoughte that I fasted with you then had I my meate in secret corners and beholde nowe I am deliuered to a dragon to be deuoured who with his taile hath in wrapped fast my handes and feete and his heade he hath thrust into my mouth and so he lieth sucking and drawing out of my breath and speaking these wordes he departed this life and had not any tyme giuen to deliuer him selfe by penance from that dragon with he sawe By which we learne that he had this vision only for the commoditye of them that hearde it seing him selfe could not escape from the enemy which he behelde and into whose handes he was giuen to be deuoured Peter Desirous I am to be informed whether we ought to beleeue that after death there is any fire of Purgatorye VVHETHER THERE BE ANY FIRE of purgatorye in the next worlde CHAPTER XXXIX Gregory OVr Lorde saith in the Gospell VValke whiles you haue the lighte Ioan. 12. and by his Prophet he saith In tyme accepted haue I hearde the and in the day of saluation haue I holpen the Esai 49. which the Apostle S. Paul expounding saith Beholde nowe 2. Corint 6. is the tyme acceptable beholde nowe the the daye os saluation Salomon likewise saith whatsoeuer thy hand is able to doe Ecclesiastes 9. v. 10. worcke it instantlye for neither worcke nor reason nor knowledge nor wisdome shal be in hel whether thow doest hasten Dauid also saith Because his mercy is for euer By Psal 117. which sayings it is plaine that in such state as a man departeth out of this life in the same he is presented in iudgement before God But yet we Purga ry fire the ●●● life fo● smal si nes Math. must beleeue that before the daye of iudgement there is a Purgatorye fire for certaine small synnes because our Sauiour saithe that he which speaketh blasphemye against the holy Ghost that it shal not be sorgiuen him neither in this worlde nor in the worlde to come Out of which sentence we learne that some synnes are forgiuen in this worlde and some other may be pardoned in the next sor that which is denied concerninge one synne is consequentlye vnderstoode to be graunted touching some other But yet ths as I saide we haue not to beleeue but only concerninge little and very smal synnes as for example daily idle talke immoderate laughter negligence in the care of our family which kinde of offences scarce can they auoide that knowe in what sorte sinne is to be shunned ignorāterror in matters of no great waighte all which synnes be punnished after death yf men procured not pardon remissiō for them in their life tyme for whē S. Paul saith that Christ is the foūdatiō 1. Corin 3. and by by addeth And if any man build vpon this soundation gold siluer pretious stones woode hay stubble the worcke of euery one of what kinde it is the fire shal trye if any mans worcke abide which he built therevpon he shal receiue rewarde if any mans worcke burne he shal suffre detriment but him selfe shal be saued yet so as by fire For althoughe these wordes may be vnderstood of the fire of tribulation which men suffre in this worlde yet yf any wil interpret them of the fire of purgatorye which shall be in the next life then must he carefully consider that the Apostle saide not that he may be saued by fire that buildeth vpon this foundation ●ron brasse or lead that is the greater sort of synnes and therfore more harde and consequently not remissible in that place but woode haye stubble that is little and very lighte synnes Litile and light synnes which the fire doth easilye consume Yet we haue here further to consider that none can be there purged no not for the least synnes that be vnlesse in his life tyme he deserued by vertuous worckes to finde such fa●or in that place OF THE SOVLE OF PASchasius the Deacon CHAPTER XL. FOr when I was yet in my yonger yeares and liued a secular life I hearde from the mouth of myne elders who knewe it to be true how that Paschasius a Deacon of this Romane churche whose sounde and eloquent bookes of the holy Ghost be extant amongest vs was a man of a wonderfull holy life a maruailous giuer of almes a louer of the poore and one that contemned him selfe This man in that contētion which through the exceding hote emulation of the clergye fellout betwixt Symmachus and Laurence made choise of Laurence to be Bishop of Rome and thoughe he was afterwarde by common consent ouercome yet did he continewe in his former opinion vntil his dying daye louinge and preferring him whom the The Bi●shop o●Rome ●uernor the church Churche by the iudgement of Bishoppes refused for her gouernor This Deacon ending his life in the tyme of Symmachus Bishoppe of the Apostolike sea a man possessed with a deuill came ●elickes ●isposses ●euiles 4 dalma ●icke or ●unicle is ●hat ve●timent ●vhich the Dea●on vseth ●●t the tyme of Masse and touched his dalmatike as it laye vpon the biere and was forthwith deliuered from that vexation Longe tyme after Germanus Bishop of Capua before mentioned by the counsell of Phisitions for the recouerye of his health went to the bathes into which after he was entred he founde there standinge in those ●ote waters the foresaide Paschasius ready to doe him seruice At which sighte being much affraide he demanded what so worthy a man as he was did in that place to whom Paschasius returned this answere For no other cause quoth he am I appointed to this place of punnishement but for that I tooke parte with Laurence against Symmachus and therfore I beseche you to pray vnto our Lorde for me and by this token shall you knowe that your Praier for soules de●parted praiers be hearde yf at your comminge againe you finde me not here Vpon this the holy man Germanus betooke him selfe to his deuotions and after a fewe daies he went againe to the same bathes but founde not Paschasius there for seing his fault proceded not of malice but of ignorance he mighte after death be purged from that synne And yet we must with all thincke that the plentifull almes which he bestowed in this life obtained fauour at Gods handes that he mighte then deserue pardon when he could worcke nothing at all for him selfe Peter What I praye you
is the reason that in these latter daies so many thinges come to lighte which in tymes past were not knowne in such sort that by open reuelations and manifest signes the ende of the worlde semeth not to be far of VVHY IN LATTER TYMES so many thinges be knowne concerning mens soules VVhich in former ages were not heard of CHAPTER XLI Gregory So it is for the nerer that this presē● world draweth to wards an end so muche the more the worlde to come is at hande and sheweth it selfe by more plaine and euident tokens For seing in this worlde we knowe not one an others cogitations and in the next mens hartes be knowne to all what fitter name can we giue to this worlde then to terme it nighte and what better to the next then to call it daye But as when the nighte is almost spent and the daye beginneth to breake darkenes and lighte be in a certaine manner ioyned together vntil the lighte of the day followinge doth perfectly bannishe away the darke remnantes of the former nighte euen so the ende of this world is as it were mingled together with the beginninge of the next and with the darckenes of this some lighte of such spirituall thinges as be in that doth appeare and so we see many thinges which belonge to that vvorlde yet for all this perfect knovvledge vve haue not anye but as it vvere in the tvvilighte of our soule beholde them before the risinge of that sonne of knowledge vvhich then abundantly vvill cast his beames ouer all Peter I like very well of your speeche yet in so worthy a man as Paschasius was this doubt doth trouble me howe he was after his death caried to any place of punnishement seing the touching of his garment vpon the biere did dispossesse a vvicked spirit Gregory Herein appeareth the great and manifolde prouidence of almightye God by whose iust iudgement it fell out that Paschasius for sometyme entertayned inwardly synne in his soule and yet in the sighte of the worlde wroughte miracles by his body after his death who in his life tyme did as they knowe many goode worckes to the end that those which had sene his vertuous life shoulde not be deceiued concerning the opinion of his great almes and yet him selfe should not without punnishement haue remission of his synne which whiles he liued he thoughte to be no synne and therfore did not by teares washe it awaye Peter I vnderstande very well what you say but by this reason I am driuen ●nto such straightes that I must stand in feare both of those synnes which I knowe and also of those which I know not But because a little before you discoursed of the places of tormentes in what part of the worlde I beseech you are vve to beleue that hel is vvhether aboue the earth or beneath the same IN VVHAT PLACE OF THE worlde we oughte to beleue that hell is CHAPTER XLII Gregory TOuchinge this pointe I dare not rashelye desine any thinge for some haue bene of opinion that hell vvas in some place vpon the earth and The latin ●ord for ●el signi●eth a ●ace be●eath others thincke that it is vnder the earth but then this doubt ariseth for yf it be therfore called hell or an infernall place because it is belovve then as the earth is distant from heauen so likevvise shold hel be distant from the earth for which cause perhappes the Prophet saith Thow hast deliuered Psal 8 my soule from the lower hel so that the higher hell may seme to be vpon the earth and the lower vnder the earth and vvith this opinion that sentence of Iohne agreeth who when he had saide that he sawe a booke sealed with Apocal. seauen seales and that non was found worthy neither in heauen nor in earth nor vnder the earth to open the booke and loose the seales thereof he added forthwith and I wept much which booke notwithstanding afterwarde he saith was opened by a lion of the tribe of Iuda By which booke what els can be ment but the holy scripture which our Sauiour alone did open for being made man by his death resurrection and ascension he did reueale and make manifest all those mysteries which in that booke were closed shutt vppe And none in heauen because not any Angell none vpon earth because not man liuinge in body not any vnder the earth was founde worthy because neither the soules departed from theire bodies could opē vnto vs beside our Lord him selfe the secretes of that sacred booke Seing then none vnder the earth is said to be founde worthy to open that booke I see not what doth lett but that we sholde beleeue that hell is in the lower partes vnder the earthe Peter I beseech you Is there one fire in hell or accordinge to the diuersitye of sinners be there so many sortes of fires prepared in that place VVHETHER THERE IS ONE fire in hel or many CHAPTER XLIII Gregory THe fire of hell is but one yet doth it not in one manner torment all synners For euerye one there according to the quantit●e of his synne hath the measure of his paine For as in this world many liue vnder one and the same sunne and yet do not alike feele the heate thereof for some be burnt more and some lesse so in that one sire diuers manners of burninge be founde for that which in this worlde diuersity of bodies doth that in the next doth diuersitye of synnes so that althoughe the fire be there all alike yet doth it not in one manner and alike burne and torment them that be damned Peter Shall those I pray you which be condemned to that place burne alwaies and neuer haue anye ende of theire tormentes VVHETHER THOSE THAT be in hel shal burne there sor euer CHAPTER XLIIII Gregory CErtaine it is and without all doubt most true that as the goode shall haue no ende of theire ioyes so the wicked neuer any release of theire tormentes for our Sauiour him selfe saith The wicked shal goe into euerlasting Math. 2 punnishment and the iust into euerlasting life seing then true it is that which he hath promised to his friendes out of al question false it can not be that which he hath threatned to his enemies Whar yf it be saide that he did threaten eternall paine to wicked liuers that he might thereby restrayne them from committing of synnes Gregory Yf that which he did threaten be false because his intent was by that meanes to keepe men from wicked life then likewise must we say that those thinges are false which he did promise and that this minde was therebye to prouoke vs to vertue But what man though madd dare presume so to saye For yf he threatned that which he ment not to put in execution whiles we are desirous to make him mercifull inforced we are likewise which is horrible to speake to affirme him to be deceiptfull Peter Willinge I am to knowe howe that