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A66958 The Catholicks defence for their adoration of the body and blood of our Lord as believed really and substantially present in the Holy Sacrament of the Eucharist. R. H., 1609-1678. 1687 (1687) Wing W3439; ESTC R16193 35,372 45

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the_o word_n real_a say_v he_o be_v deny_v i._n e._n by_o protestant_n as_o it_o be_v in_o king_n edward_n time_n the_o word_n real_a be_v take_v for_o natural_a i._n e._n as_o he_o explain_v it_o p._n 5._o including_z not_o only_o the_o nature_n of_o the_o body_n for_o that_o be_v the_o substance_n but_o the_o corporal_a and_o natural_a manner_n of_o its_o existence_n he_o go_v on_o but_o the_o word_n substantialiter_fw-la be_v also_o use_v by_o protestant_n in_o this_o question_n which_o i_o suppose_v may_v be_v the_o same_o with_o that_o which_o be_v in_o the_o article_n of_o trent_n sacramentaliter_fw-la praesens_fw-la salvator_n substantia_fw-la sva_fw-la nobis_fw-la adest_fw-la in_o substance_n but_o after_o a_o sacramental_a manner_n see_v the_o confession_n of_o beza_n and_o the_o french_a protestant_n relate_v by_o hosp_n hist._n sacram._n part_n ult_n p._n 251._o fatemur_fw-la in_o coena_fw-la domini_fw-la non_fw-la modo_fw-la omne_fw-la christi_fw-la beneficia_fw-la sed_fw-la ipsam_fw-la etiam_fw-la filii_fw-la hominis_fw-la substantiam_fw-la ipsam_fw-la inquam_fw-la veram_fw-la ●arnem_fw-la &_o verum_fw-la illum_fw-la sanguinem_fw-la quem_fw-la fudit_fw-la pro_fw-la nobis_fw-la non_fw-la significari_fw-la duntaxat_fw-la aut_fw-la symbolice_n typice_n vel_fw-la figurate_a proponi_fw-la tanquam_fw-la absentis_fw-la memoriam_fw-la sed_fw-la veer_fw-la ac_fw-la certo_fw-la repraesentari_fw-la exhiberi_fw-la &_o applicanda_fw-la osserri_fw-la adjunctis_fw-la symbolis_fw-la minime_fw-la nudis_fw-la sed_fw-la quae_fw-la quod_fw-la ad_fw-la deum_fw-la ipsum_fw-la promittentem_fw-la &_o offerentem_fw-la attinet_fw-la semper_fw-la rem_fw-la ipsam_fw-la veer_fw-la ac_fw-la certo_fw-la conjunctam_fw-la habeant_fw-la sive_fw-la fidelibus_fw-la sive_fw-la infidelibus_fw-la proponantur_fw-la again_o beza_n epist_n 68_o speak_v against_o alemannus_n and_o some_o other_o who_o oppose_v a_o substantial_a presence_n volunt_fw-la say_v he_o ex-gallica_n confession_n art._n 36._o &_o liturgia_fw-la catech._n din._n 53._o expungi_fw-la substantiae_fw-la vocem_fw-la idcirco_fw-la de_fw-la industria_fw-la passim_fw-la a_o calvino_n &_o a_o i_o usurpatam_fw-la ut_fw-la eorum_fw-la calumniae_fw-la occurreremus_fw-la qui_fw-la nos_fw-la clamitant_fw-la prore_n sacramenti_fw-la non_fw-la ipsum_fw-la christum_fw-la sed_fw-la ejus_fw-la duntaxat_fw-la dona_fw-la &_o energiam_fw-la ponere_fw-la and_o epist._n 5._o he_o argue_v thus_o against_o the_o same_o alemannus_n velim_fw-la igitur_fw-la te_fw-la imprimis_fw-la intueri_fw-la christi_fw-la verba_fw-la hoc_fw-la est_fw-la corpus_fw-la meum_fw-la quod_fw-la pro_fw-la vobis_fw-la traditur_fw-la &_o hic_fw-la est_fw-la sanguis_fw-la meus_fw-la qui_fw-la pro_fw-la vobis_fw-la funditur_fw-la age_fw-la pro_fw-la his_fw-la vocibus_fw-la corpus_fw-la &_o sanguis_fw-la dicamus_fw-la hoc_fw-la est_fw-la efficacia_fw-la mortis_fw-la meae_fw-la quae_fw-la pro_fw-la vobis_fw-la traditur_fw-la hic_fw-la est_fw-la spiritus_fw-la meus_fw-la qui_fw-la pro_fw-la vobis_fw-la effunditur_fw-la quid_fw-la ineptius_fw-la est_fw-la hac_fw-la oratione_fw-la nam_fw-la certe_fw-la verba_fw-la illa_fw-la quod_fw-la pro_fw-la vobis_fw-la traditur_fw-la &_o qui_fw-la pro_fw-la vobis_fw-la funditur_fw-la necessario_fw-la huc_fw-la te_fw-la adigunt_fw-la ut_fw-la de_fw-la ipsamet_fw-la corporis_fw-la &_o sanguinis_fw-la substantia_fw-la hoc_fw-la intelligere_fw-la cogaris_fw-la see_v hooker_n eccles_n pol._n 5._o l._n 67._o 67._o p._n 357._o wherefore_o shall_v the_o world_n continue_v still_o distract_v and_o rend_v with_o so_o manifold_a contention_n when_o there_o remain_v now_o no_o controversy_n save_v only_o about_o the_o subject_n where_o christ_n be_v nor_o do_v any_o thing_n rest_v doubtful_a in_o this_o but_o whither_o when_o the_o sacrament_n be_v administer_v christ_n be_v whole_a within_o man_n only_o or_o else_o his_o body_n and_o blood_n be_v also_o external_o seat_v in_o the_o very_a consecrate_a 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