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A89189 A sober ansvvere to an angry pamphlet, or, Animadversions, by way of reply, to Robert Barclays late book (entituled, Truth cleared of calumnies) in answere to A dialogue between a Quaker and a stable Christian by VVilliam Mitchell. Mitchell, William, 17th cent. 1671 (1671) Wing M2294; ESTC R43708 69,116 149

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wicked is common but in the Godly is saving and so Christ is in the one as to a common but in the other in respect of a saving operation of light Now when he saith that Christ is in all men if his meaning be that as God he is in all men then we do not control him for thus Christ is every where If his meaning be that as man he is in all men then the Scripture controls him which holdeth forth his Man-hood must continue in Heaven untill the time of the restitution of all things If his meaning be that Christ is in all men to enlighten them that they may believe then his proof is not sufficient which is Ioh. 1.9 compared with 7. for this seventh verse speaketh expresly of Iohn the Baptist the fore-runner of Christ as is evident by looking back to the preceeding verse There was a man sent from God whose name was John the same came for a witness to bear witness of the light that all men through him might believe Here the Evangelist holdeth forth Iohns calling and the end of it which was to bear testimony concerning Christ This was the special scop of Iohns Ministry to point out Christ in his excellencies and usefulness to lost men and to whom the offer of Christ comes in the Ministry of the word they are called upon to believe in Christ none being excluded SECT V. There is a Consistency between Mans Lapsed State and the Remainders of the IMAGE of GOD in him He asketh how it is consistent to affirme that some remainders of knowledge and principles of good remaine in man after the ruins of Gods Image in him with what we say to wit that there is no good thing at all in men unconverted and that man fell wholly from God as to all things that are good Ans Who of us do say so without adding any limitation And yet there is no inconsistency between these things even as set down by you if rightly understood for though men unconverted have not any saving good yet it followeth not ergo they are destitute of all good The unconverted have precious Souls in them which are of great excellency and worth and there still remains in them some similitude of GOD their Souls being Spiritual and Immortal It is true man by the fall was bereaved of saving graces in so much that true holiness and saving knowlegde he hath not yet he is not denuded of all knowledge In him there are certaine notions concerning good and evil which though they cannot direct to Salvation and Eternal happiness yet if we live not up to them they serve to leave us unexcusable Now it may be demanded whether it be inconsistent to say that a City is wholly demolished whereas there is some rubbish and some foundations of houses still remaining If this be not inconsistent why should it be thought an inconsistency To say that though men be fallen off from GOD yet he retains some fragments and Relicts of the Image of GOD As in very deed he doth for the Image of GOD is the conformity of the creature to the Creatour and the Soul of man is conformable to GOD in its nature as it is a Spiritual and Immortal Substance Likewise man hath not lost all his dominion over the creatures And it is to be observed that though there be light in the consciences of men that are corrupt yet this light is not the corruption of the conscience but it is derived from Christ and cometh from him as a bountiful Creatour and in this respect the light of knowledge reason and understanding that is in man since the fall may be called the light of Jesus Christ for he is that true light that thus enlighneth every man that cometh into the world V. HEAD Concerning the Scriptures SECT I. Shewing how the Quakers vilify the Scriptures Look to page 24.25 And we may easily perceive the Quakers dis-esteeme of the Scriptures though in speaking to people they would beare them in hand to the contrary For 1. They grant that they meet not to read the Scriptures but to waite on the Lord and they meet to worship GOD whose worship is to be performed in Spirit and in Truth and not in External Reading Now do not these mens endeavours tend to disgrace the Scriptures in that they make an opposition between reading the Scriptures and waiting on GOD and Spiritual worshipping of him as if the Lord could not be waited on in the use of reading his Word Was not the Eunuch in the duty of waiting when sitting in his chariot he read the Prophet Isaias This work was so well pleasing to GOD that the Lord encouraged him in it helping him to understand what before he knew not Act. 8.28 Did not the Saints under the Old Testament worship GOD in Spirit and in Truth Surely the Lord required of them sincere Spirit worship which they performed lifting up their Souls to GOD and did not satisfy themselves with the bare outside and carcase of duty Lament 3.41 And yet they were not enemies to external Reading of the Scriptures Act 15.21 Moses of old time hath in every City them that Preacht him being Read in the Synagogue every Sabbath-day And although Reading the Scriptures was a duty done under the Law it doth not cease to be a duty under the Gospel because it is no where repealed but on the contrary as it was commanded in the Old Testament so it is confirmed in the New this being a special means of having the Word of GOD to dwel richly in us Coloss 3.16 It is most agreeable to the Scriptures for a Minister to take the Bible and read a part of it opening and applying it see Nehem. 8.5.8 And Ezra opened the book in the sight of all the people so they read in the book of the Law of GOD distinctly and gave the sense and caused them to understand the reading Christ himself took a text and applyed it Luke 4.18.21 And albeit Christ did this in the synagogue Quid inde What then did he not likewise Preach in the synagogue And yet Preaching continues to be the Ministers duty 2. Tim. 4.2 As for that Scripture 1. Cor. 14.29.30.31 it conduceth nothing to keep up the successive talking of Quakers For the Prophesying here mentioned was the act of Prophets and it is restrained to them all the Prophets who prophesie Now the Gentle-man will have much ado to prove all his brethren who at their meetings take upon them to Preach or rather to use his owne terme prate one after another to be Prophets especially to prove their women preachers to be in the number of them for their preaching is expresly prohibited verses 34.35 Let your women keep silence in the Church for it is not permitted unto them to speake it is a shame for women to speake in the Church Neither doth the afore-cited Scripture make any thing against our way for Ministers amongst us sometimes speak two or three
fourth Command instance in the seventh day that is for number yet it speaketh not precisely of the seventh day in order from the creation It is said six dayes shalt thou labour but the seventh is the Sabbath mark the seventh is the Sabbath the Lord saith not the seventh from the creation It is likewise worthy special observation to consider the preceptive and the benedictive part of the fourth Command or the beginning and conclusion of it In the beginning it is said Remember the Sabbath day to keep it holy In the conclusion it is said Wherefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it observe the phrase not seventh day but Sabbath day is blessed so that the fourth Command neither begins nor ends with that terme the seventh day but with that of the Sabbath day which is an evidence that the designe of this Command is not to bind the Church to a precise keeping of the seventh day from the creation for there is no express mention of that day in all the fourth Command the maine intendment therefore of the fourth Command is to prescribe a seventh day to be keept holy after six dayes labour which GOD appointeth And this to the People of GOD under the Old Testament was the seventh day of the week it being appointed by GOD in the first institution of the Sabbath Gen. 2 3. but to us it is the first day of the week the Sabbath being translated and changed to this day by divine authority as will afterwards appear 1. Object The keeping of one day of the week for a Sabbath is not perpetual but abolished Coloss 2.16.17 let no man judge you in meat or drink or in respect of a holy day or new Moon or of the Sabbath dayes Answer Here the Apostle opposeth ceremonial ordinances but not Gospel institutions Indeed the Old Anabaptists and Familists with whom Quakers go along they urged this text against all difference of dayes under the Gospel though the Apostles onely designe be to decry the several sorts of dayes which were in use among the Jews of which he gives an observable enumeratiō proceeding from their yearlie holy dayes to their monethlie new Moons and from them to their weeklie Sabbaths so that granting the weekly Sabbath to be here taken in yet it maketh nothing against the Christian Sabbath but against the old seventh day Sabbath 2. Object Rom. 14.6 plainlie holdeth forth all dayes to be alike Answer What was said before serveth to clear this Scripture it speaketh of ceremonial daies of such dayes as are in the rank with ceremonial meats and therefore opposeth not the moral weekly Sabbath 3. Object Gal. 4.10.11 Ye observe daies and moneths times and years I am affraid of you Ans There is a twofold observation of dayes moral and ceremonial now the Apostle speaketh not against the former but the latter he would not have Jewish times such a their Sabbatical yeares their annual feasts their monethlie feasts called new Moons their weeklie seventh day which is probably thought to be included in that clause ye observe dayes to be observed which the Jewish false teachers cryed up but he was far from crying down the fourth Command which is no less binding then the rest of the Decalogue it being delivered in the same majestick manner pressed with the same severitie and written by the same finger of GOD and put into the same Ark with the rest He that said Thou shalt not commit adulterie Thou shalt not steal said likewise Remember the Sabbath day keep it holy and therefore if persons take upon them to sacrifice this Command to their wild fancies they need not spare the other Commands And in very deed the Commands of GOD are little beholden either to Papists or Quakers for Papists reject the second Command and Quakers give the same usage to the fourth And this puts me in mind of a Story I have heard concerning an Honest Countrey-man who travelling on the rod there were two who denyed the Sabbath came up to him upon a designe to try his knowledge the question they propounded was concerning the number of the Commands the well meaning man knew the persons and shapt an answer sutable to their principles telling them there were eight Cōmands whereupon the Querists made sport and upbraided the poor man with his profession and his ignorance but he gravely replyed that the scripture indeed spake of ten Commands Deut. 4.13 but they had taken away one Command and the Papists another so that between them they had brought the Commands from ten to eight In his answer to Matth. 24.20 where Christ intimats the continuance of a Sabbath He saith that Sabbath is neither here nor else where said to be the first day of the week Answer Though there be no express mention in this place of the first day of the week yet in that it proves the continuance of a Sabbath it overthrowes the Quakers opinion who would be levelling all dayes making them alike And it is to be remarked that Christ was come into the world relateth the sad things which were to befal his Disciples after he was ascended to the Father and yet even then a Sabbath was in being He addeth page 60. That as the outward Jew ma● not be put to fly on his outward Sabbath so the inward Jew desireth much more that he may keep hi● Sabbath which is his spiritual rest in Christ Heb 4.9 Answer The Apostle in this chapter speaketh of a rest which Believers onely enter into And sheweth 1. That this rest is not the rest of the Sabbath verse 4. 2. That it is not the rest of the Land of Canaan verse 8. If Jesus that is Joshua had given them rest then would he not have spoken o● another rest It followeth then that the rest which Believers onely shall enter into is the rest of Heaven verse 9. there remains therefore a rest for the people of GOD. Now because there is an eternal rest promised to the Believing obedient people of GOD saith this any thing why they should not observe one day of seven as a Sabbath unto the Lord Oh the conscientious keeping of the Sabbath is a comfortable evidence of those that shal be admitted to this rest SECT II. The first day of the Week is set a part for the Service of GOD by Divine Authority He addeth If we have the same authority for keeping the first day of the week as the Jews had for keeping their day then let it be produced Answer It was produced before but he would not see it however for the sake of others we shal cōsider again that Scripture Rev. 1.10 I was in the Spirit on the Lords day Now that by the Lords day is meant the first day of the week will be clear if we advert that there are peculiar grounds why this day is singularly to be called the Lords day beyond other dayes Because 1. on this day our Lord arose and ceased from the work
proud knowing nothing but doting about questions and strifes of words whereof cometh envy strife railings evil surmisings III. HEAD Shewing that the Quakers departure from us is not to be justified by our departing from Papists He confesseth that when they walked with us the Lord begat a measure of honesty and integrity in diverse of them turning the bent of their hearts towards him Answer By what meanes was this honestie and integritie of heart wrought in them Was it not in the use of these very Ordinances which now they cry down their consciences cannot but force some of them to an acknowledgement of this Now when the Lord first wrought this integrity in them what was it that he countenanced for begetting of it It could not be any antecedaneous measure of integritie for they had not integrity before it was wrought and therefore doubtless GOD hath regaird to his own appointments blessing and making them effectual May not some of the Quakers remember that even in their walke with us by such a Sermon and the opening of such a Scripture the bent of their hearts was drawn Heaven-wards and GOD wards Which though they should refuse yet there are many living Witnessess who have found this effect of Preaching and do remember it to their unspeakable comfort He addeth page 13. That the Lord visited some while they lived among Papists and at times refreshed them Ans The question is whether these persons were visited in a way of conversion by Popish inventions and traditions Among Papists themselves the Scriptures are to be found and God hath blessed to some in times of Popery the reading of the Scriptures for their Reformation and illumination in the knowledge of the truth When Luther betooke himself to the Augustine Monks Colledge there he met with a copy of the Latine Bible which he read with great attention and admiration and thereafter spent his time in searching the Prophetical and Apostolical writtings seeking thence to informe himself in the knowledge of Gods minde and will It is known that in the darkest times of Poperie the Lord wanted not his witnesses who stood up in defence of the truth whom the Papists when they could get their hands on them cruelly butchered and murthered and the labour of these servants of God was nor in vaine but attended with great success Now it remaineth for him to prove that such as were converted among Papists were converted by Popery that is by their invented corruptions And yet if the primest of Quakers were ever savingly wrought upon as I cannot but think thus it is with some of them the work was begun by the Lords blessing and countenancing these self-same ordinances which they reject as our Traditions He thinketh it meet to pass by that objection calling it weak from Solomons sacrificing at Gibeon Answer No wonder if it be weak coming from a feeble person and yet an Apostle among the Quakers namely P. L. in a Letter of his which no doubt he will justify as the immediat endytment of the Spirit of God to the People of ABERDENE IV. HEAD Concerning the Light and their Union with CHRIST that have Saving Grace and Light in them He quarrels at me for calling the Light in us our Light Ans Though it be Efficiently and Originally the Light of Christ yet is it nor Subjectively ours Is it disingenuity to say that we are the persons in whom this Light is He saith page 14. 15. That sometimes the being of Christ in men signifieth the existence of Christ in them to prepare for union with him and that Christ must needs be in men before thy have union with Christ Ans We grant that Christ may be and is in men in respect of his general presence and as to common operations before they be in Union with him But it is incumbent for him to prove that Chrst is in men as to saving grace and light which is the Quakers principle and that men who are thus savingly inlightened are without Union to Christ As for those spoken of John 1.5.10 the other Scriptures shal afterwards be examined in that they knew not Christ this sheweth that saving grace was not their priviledge The Scripture abundantly testifyeth that persons truely gracious and savingly inlightened are in a state of union with Christ and therefore Christ is said to be in them Rom. 8.10 to dwel in them 2. Cor. 6.16 and they are said to abide in Christ 1. John 4.16 and to dwell in Him Joh. 6.56 All which expressions clearly import an Union between Christ and those that have saving Grace and Light in them He subjoyneth if it be thought strange that Christ should be in the Heathen and they not know him Was it not as strange that he should be among the Jews who had the Letter that did bear a testimony of him and they not know him Answere It is not so much for men to have the Scriptures among them and miracles wrought before them as to have Saving Light and Grace in them though some that enjoyed the former did sadly mistake Christ yet such as had Christ in them by his saving Light they cordially owned Christ and had the Mysteries of his Incarnation Passion and Resurrection revealed to them see Ioh. 1.14 Act. 1 3. Page 16. He saith Christ doth reveal himself in some measure unto all in whom he beares witness against iniquity Answere If it be a Revelation of Christ to persons in that they have a testimony in them against sin then we must yeeld that the Americans have Christ revealed to them Yea more the very Devils have this Revelation of Christ for they have that in them which witnesseth against iniquity and sin And therefore notwithstanding all the Quakers pleadings for Heathens as having saving Light in them he doth them but smal favour in putting them in the same case with Devils SECT I. The Danger of Asserting Saving and Sufficient Light to be in all He calleth it difingenuity for saying that the opinion of all mens having sufficient Light in them tendeth to put Christians in the same condition with Pagans Ans This Doctrine of Saving sufficient Light in all naturally tends to it for if Pagans have saving Light their state should be as safe as the state of of Real Christians Where saving illumination is there is also saving Faith there being a concatination between these Graces of the Spirit That Scripture while ye have the Light believe in the Light is understood of the Person of Christ Ioh. 8.12 Ioh. 12.46 which the Jews then had among them and not of subjective inherent light wrought in the soul by Christ for this being a created thing is not to be believed in If the Pagans light be sufficient then there is no Spiritual benefit let the Quaker call it as he will whether the raising of the seed in them or refreshing of them the seed being raised necessary to Salvation that accrues to Christians by the Scriptures and the Gospel
and the spirits of the Prophets are subject to the Prophets The Quakers themselves have not many speakers for at times they sit dumbe as if silence could promote their mutual edification Was this the Churches way Or the custome of the Apostles and primitive Christians Certainly this hemlock or invention hath sprung up since their late apostacy from the Truth Secondly They will not have the Scriptures called their Masters letter no forsooth their Masters letter is written in their hearts and there they are to find it neither is their Master seperated from them as those who use to write letters to servants to set them on work But is not Christ as much seperate from Quakers as from the seven Churches of Asia Or was he not as near those Famous Churches as them And yet they had letters sent to them from their great LORD and Master to direct them in their duty Revel 1.11 I am Alpha and Omega and what thou seest write in a book and send it unto the seven Churches which are in Asia Now will ye observe how much these persons bend their strength to evacuate the authority of the Scriptures For they say GOD requires us to do all our work by immediat counsel and direction as if by the outward command contained in the Scriptures GOD did not require any work of them yea they will not allow the Scripture precepts the name of Commands but call them the outward testimony and signification of the Command which as they say they regaird in its place that is onely when they have an inward command and so while this inward command is wanting through their neligence in waiting all that time the Scripture loseth its authority and is of no use to them Is this to regard the Scriptures Doth it not tend to forward and confirme negligent Atheists in their contemptuous slighting and undervaluing of the Scriptures Oh! that all such would read and tremble at the reading of Ioh. 12.48 he that receiveth not my words hath one that judgeth him the word that I have spoken the same shal judge him at the last day Thirdly They preferre their silent waiting to the reading of the Scriptures as if we must first come to this ere we can know the Scriptures aright Now they should prove which is not so much as touched upon that their way of waiting is a meane appointed by GOD for right understanding of the Scriptures or profitable speaking concerning them Waiting in their notion is Apocriphal not warranted by any Scripture Some of them have defined it to be a silent posture of the heart without thinking good or evil It seemeth to me no better then mispēt time to be employed in seeking such a posture of heart the heart is such a stirring working thing that if it be not upon good it will be busie enough in evil as may be found in our daily experience According to Scripture faith patience and hope must be exercised in waiting Psal 40.1 Lam. 3.26 and can we be in the exercise of these graces without thinking good or evil What an odd conceit is this Fourthly Lest they should seeme to be too great enemies to the Scriptures they confess it to be their desire to try Doctrines by the Scriptures Ans If this be their desire indeed how is it then that one of the Quakers seeing a Religious woman in this Town with a Bible in her hand told her she might as well read a Latine book as that Book And why is it that they do not desire their hearers to bring their Bibles that so they may the better discerne whether the doctrines taught at their meetings be answerable to the Scriptures But happily they think not this convenient lest their juglings should be found out And I must tell the Gentle-man that though he charge us with jugling that the Quakers have been suspected from their first rise as notable juglers which R. Farmer in his Mystery of ungodlyness sheweth by this instance saith he it is usual for Quakers to say they owne the Scriptures yea we confirme and establish the Scriptures and witness the Scriptures Now saith he an honest-man that means plainly would think they believed the Scriptures to be the written Word of GOD and the rule of a Christian to walk by in things to be believed and practised But saith he these persons play the deceivers not using words in that sense they are usually understood they meane otherwise they say in express words else where the Scriptures are not the Saints rule of knowing God and living to him And indeed these are the words of one C. Atkinson a Quaker see his book called the sword of the Lord furbished in answere to the Ministers first principle and a little after he insinuats that to affirme the Scriptures to be the rule is to put darkness for light and light for darkness Now let all unbyassed persons judge whether these men put the Scriptures in their true place SECT II. Proving the Scriptures to be the Word of GOD. He addeth page 26. That every declaration of a mans mind is not his word for signs may be a declaration of his mind Ans Though a dumb man may declare his mind by signs yet this maketh nothing against the Scriptures being the word of God which are such a declaration of Gods mind as he uttered and spake If any thing can be accounted the proper word of one that must be it which he utters and speaks Now the Truths the Commands and Precepts contained in the Scriptures were uttered and spoken by God Exod. 20.1 And God spake all these words c. He saith people usually distinguish between a mans word and his write Ans True For they call the one verbum dictum a word spoken and the other verbum scriptum a word written but can it be inferred from this that the Scriptures are not the Word of GOD which he hath committed to writting for the good of his Church and People He saith the Word of GOD is like unto himself spiritual yea spirit and life and therefore cannot be read with the external senses Ans The Word of GOD is twofold 1. There is the coessential coeternal word namely JESUS CHRIST who is one with the Father this Word properly cannot be read though we may and do read of it 2. There is the Spiritual Word the temporal expressed Word or the Word written in time now the external senses may be employed in reading this Word He saith that these scriptures Hos 1.1 Joel 1.1 Esay 38.4 are understood of that word from which the scriptures were given forth Ans It is not denyed that the Lord spake by the Prophets and was the authour of giving forth the scriptures but yet that word of the Lord which came to the Prophets is not mean'd of the Word made flesh as Quakers would have it but of the mind and message of the Lord contained in Scripture Ieremiah 14.1 the word of the Lord that came to
Testament Though the inward testimony of the spirit be of great use to perswade and assure us of the divine authority of the scripture yet it is false to affirme that this can be proved no other way but by the spirits inward testimony there are other arguments whereby the authority of the scripture may be convincingly and solidly proved against Turks and Pagans and all Anti-scripturists whatsoever Let me crave leave to put Quakers in minde of one argument which is excellently improved by that judicious servant of GOD Mr. Baxter in his book of the Saints rest page 239. Where he thus reasoneth if the Scriptures be neither the invention of Devils nor of men then they can be from none but GOD he takes it for granted that good Angels could not be guilty of forging the scriptures now he proves at length it would be needless to set down here the full proof of this argument because the book is common and in the hands of many that the Scripture is not the invention of Devils that no meer men were the inventers of Scripture it was neither devised by good men nor by bad men then sure by no man and consequently must of necessity proceed from GOD. When the Ancient Fathers had to do with Pagans who were strangers to the inward testimony of the spirit they made use of other arguments in proving the Scriptures Divinity such as the Heavenliness of the matter the Majestie of the style the efficacy of the Doctrine the verity of the predictions and by these and such like arguments they confounded the learnedst Pagans And JOHN CALVIN lib. 1. cap. 7. of his Instit plainly supposeth that there are other arguments besids the testimony of the spirit to prove the divine authority of the Scriptures saith he verum quidem est si argumentis agere libeat multa posse in medium preferri quae facile evincant siquis est in Coelo DEUS Legem Prophetias Evangelium ab eo manasse i. e. True indeed it is that if we pleased to deale by arguments many things might be produced that may easily prove that if there be a GOD in Heaven that the Law the Prophets and the Gospel came from him Now seeing the Quakers have cited CALVIN I would advise them to look to the 9. chapter wherein be fully sheweth that fanatical men who forsaking scripture betake themselves unto revelation do overturne all principles of godliness He saith that Ioh. 5.39 may be translated ye search the scriptures as Pasor translateth the words Ans The same Pasor speaking of that scripture the kingdom of God is within you 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 he rendereth the words in medio vestro in sinu gentis vestrae that is in the midst of you in the bosome of your nation and yet the Quakers will not admit of this translation It is confessed that 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 is taken by some even PROTESTANT Writters in the indicative mood though by that which followes it appears to be imperative rather then indicative for the great controversie at that time was whether Christ was the Son of GOD and the true Messiah now Christ remits them to the scriptures which the Jews deservedly had in high esteeme as bearing witnesse unto him search the scriptures and they are they which testify of me As who would say peruse them frequently search them diligentlie digging for these heavenly treasures as men do for gold who break every clod that they may find the golden oare Neither doth Christ check them when he saith in them ye think to have eternal life this was a true thought as to the scriptures pointing out the way to Eternal life 2. Tim. 1.10 Seeing the Quaker page 29. granteth that the scriptures are profitable for doctrine correction reproof instruction in righteousness why then doth he not acknowledge them to be a perfect rule of faith and manners VVhat more can be requisite to prove their perfection then their teaching truth confuting errour reproving sin and discovering duty There is enough said and delivered in the Scripture to direct us in things to be believed and practised and if the Scriptures do not actually profit us for this end the blaime is to be laid at the door of our ignorance and perversnesse Now the scriptures are thus profitabe that the man of God may be perfect i. e. That the Minister of Jesus Christ may be compleate and every way fitted for the work of his Calling for though any man led by the spirit of GOD may in a general sense be called the man of God yet the Lord honours his Ministers with this tittle and peculiarly attributs it to them 1. Sam. 2.27 and 9.6 1. King 17.18 SECT III. Shewing that the Spirit within is not the Rule In stead of answering my argument proving that the Spirit within is not the rule he saith did these Jews receive Christ who had the scriptures Did they not reject him and why Because they hearkned not to the inward voice and testimony of the Father concerning him and this was the testimony which he said was greater then that of John Ans Look into the place where Christ speaks of this testimony and it will be found that it is no inward voice of the Father there spoken of See Ioh. 5.36 I have a greater witness then that of John for the works which the Father hath given me to finish the same works that I do bear witness of me That is his works in doing miracles these were a more convincing witness of Christs being the promised Messiah then that of John And therefore when Iohns Disciples askt saying art thou he that shal come or do we look for another Jesus answered go and shew John these things which ye do hear and see the blind receive their sight c. As for that testimony which the Father gave concerning Christ verse 37. it was not an inward voice and testimony but an outward audible voice from Heaven Matth. 3.17 compared with 2. Pet. 1.17.18 And Christ reproveth the unbelieving Jews in that they were ignorant of the Father though they gloried so much of him as being the people whose Progenitors had heard the voice of GOD Deut. 4.12 Now Christ sheweth that all this was nothing to them for they were strangers to such manifestations of GOD and they looked not like that people whose Ancestors had heard so much of GOD ye have neither heard his voice nor seen his shape He saith there is not any word 1. Ioh. 4.1 of trying the spirits by the scriptures Answer It is sufficient if there be warrand in other places though no express mention of it in this for trying the spirits by the scripture Now seeing every spirit is not to be believed that is every doctrine propounded as received by inspiration from Gods spirit false teachers will be as ready as any to boast of the spirit and therefore we must try from what spirit their doctrine cometh And what surer and
discovered by his works like that expression where GODS strength is said ro be perfected in our weakness 2. Cor. 12.9 In answering that place Eccl. 7.20 he brings scriptures to prove that there are righteous men who do good But this was not the thing denyed he should have proved that righteous men on earth do good so purely that there is not the least fault or blemish cleaving thereunto As for that scripture 1. Ioh. 3.9 he that is born of GOD sinneth not it doth not prove an absolute freedom from sin for this is contrary to the experiences of the Regenerat and Saints in all Ages who have bitterly bewailed and ruefully mourned under the sense of their sins the words in the Greek are 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 that is he maketh not sin sin is not his trade Now a man makes a trade of sin when in sinning he is in his Element where he would be there is no work so pleasing to him as the work of sin But this is not the disposition of a Regenerate Person He addeth that the Prophet Isaiah 64.6 saith not all our righteousness which is of thy working in us who are Saints is as filthy rags Answ Neither doth the Prophet say as the Quaker brings him in speaking all our righteousness which we even the best of the Saints can performe of and from themselves are as filthy rags The Prophet speaketh in general and plurally of righteousnessess and that in the person of the whole Church and not relating onely to the wicked and ungodly therefore he useth the word all and our righteousness To affirme the Saints righteousness to be filthy rags is no just ground to make us ashamed for we do not reflect on the holy Spirit of GOD as if filthiness did proceed from him he is good in giving us the least degree of grace not being bound to give us any his work of grace and holiness in us is a special ornament to the soul making it in beauty to resemble GOD but in respect of us imperfection cleaveth to this grace in that it is not all the grace which the Law of GOD requireth of us being commanded to love GOD with all our hearts souls and minds Matth. 22.37 The best action and works done and performed by us as instruments have something of the taint of sin adhering to them where is the soul that is carried out in prayer and other spiritual duties with that love and delight with that purity and fervency of spirit which the spiritualness of the law doth call for Now it is the sin which cleaveth to the Saints good works which is to be throwne away this indeed is not an ornament but a deformity for which we should be humbled and ashamed in the sight of God He saith page 40. 41. that the Saints are subordinate coworkers with Christ but yet it followeth not that his works in them and by them are defiled and though it be said who can bring a clean thing out of an unclean this hinders not but that the Lord can and doth make clean those who have been unclean and so out of them who are made clean can bring forth clean things Answere 1. We grant that there are thousands in Heaven whom the Lord hath made perfectly clean and their actings have not the least impurity in them Heb. 12.23 Revel 21.27 2. We grant that there be many on Earth who are sanctified and cleansed yet their cleansing and sanctification is but in part they are not throughly cleansed and perfectly sanctified there is yet an unclean part in them they have in them flesh as well as spirit and however this unclean part viz. the flesh should be chained and kept down Yet GODS People to their smart and grief find the stirrings and rysings of it and the resistance and opposition it makes whereby they are hindred from doing good perfectly Gal. 5.17 the flesh lasteth against the spirit and the spirit against the flesh and these are contrary the one to the other so that ye cannot do the things that ye would Rom. 7.19 the good that I would I do not but the evil which I would not that I do Now men being but in part holy and in part carnal therefore the works which proceed from them have some filth and taint of sin cleaving to them there is sin in the best men to undo them if GOD should deale with them in rigour Psalm 130.3 If thou Lord shouldst marke iniquity O Lord who shal stand 1. King 8.46 for there is no man that sinneth not And yet we deny not but by degrees the clean part encreaseth and the unclean is diminished yea and at last all the uncleanness shal be wrought out there is a happy time coming when the children of GOD shal not have spot or wrinkle or any such thing but this priviledge is reserved for them till they come to Heaven for there is not a just man upon earth that doth good and sinneth not Eccl. 7.20 Intimating that the just mans doing good is attended with sin sinfulness cleaveth to his good actions as was formerly cleared by that similitude which the Quaker hath not in the lest weakened of clean water passing through an unclean pipe and thereby receiving a tincture of uncleanness The Gentleman that supposeth himself so well skilled in the outward creation should have instructed me what that outward water is which is not capable of defilment And having first done this he might then the more freely have come to his supercilious application SECT IV. Iustification is not by inherent Righteousness but by the imputed Righteousness of IESUS CHRIST He addeth that justification is taken for the making a man righteous and then it is all one with sanctification Answer Is not this to confound what the scripture distinguisheth Now justification and sanctification in scripture are alwayes spoken of as distinct benefits 1. Cor. 6.11 But ye are sanctified but ye are justified Rom. 8.30 whom he called namely to a conformity to the Image of his Son them he also justified And it is to be observed that we need not contest with Quakers or Papists whether the word justifie signify to make righteous or no Onely we say that the righteousness which doth make a man just or justifyeth him is not inherent in him And to assert justification to be the making of a man righteous by infused inherent righteousness or righteousness wrought in him is to confound what GOD distinguisheth and to alter the scripture sense of the word justify He addeth page 42. that admitting the Apostle Phil. 3.9 speaketh not of his righteousness whilest he was a Pharisee yet he was stil to deny the work and righteousness which was to proceed from his own will and spirit Answere The Apostle in the preceeding verses disclaimed righteousness proceeding from his own will and spirit but verses 8.9 he ryseth higher and goeth a step further even to the present time I account all things intending the present graces
such as are keept by the power of GOD it is through faith but as they abide not in that power through faith but wander from it they fall and cannot but fall Answer A goodly reply forsooth which is as if he had said if the Saints fall from faith they must fall and cannot but fall Remonstrants grant that a Believer quatalis as a Believer cannot fall away but qui talis est he that is a Believer may fall away Now the designe of that Scripture 1. Pet. 1.5 is to shew that there are two things concurring to prevent the Saints total and final fall namely faith and the power of GOD both work together to keep the Saints unto Salvation that Lord who gives faith unto his people helps them to persevere in it for he is not onely the authour but the finisher of their faith Heb. 12.2 In answering Ierem. 32.40 He saith it should be translated thus I will put my fear in their hearts that they may not depart from me Answer The words in the Hebrew are lebilti sur megnalai which will as well carry shal not as may not depart from me But granting that the words were translated according to his own desire yet they are full enough to prove the Saints perseverance the Lord putting his fear into them for this end GODS love will not suffer him to depart from the Saints and fear will not let them depart from GOD GOD principles their hearts with such a measure of his dread and fear as stayes them from an utter departur from him He maketh short work with these other Scriptures Ioh. 10.27.28 Ioh. 13.1.1 Ioh. 2.19 saying that they speak of those who were to come to a through regeneration Answer This is a bare affirmation without any proof There is no mention in the texts themselves of a through regeneration and if it be onely throughly regenerate or perfectly sanctified persons that shal persevere then perseverance is the priviledge onely of Saints in Heaven whose attainment this perfection is and not of Saints on earth who groan under their imperfections Now seeing that Saints who have true and saving grace are the Regeneat Children of GOD when by faith they receive Christ GOD ownes them for his children and they are truely regenerat Gal. 3.26 Ioh. 1.12.13 On the other hand graceless persons are branded as being the children of the Devil Ioh. 8.44 Is it not then manifest that to mantain the total and final Apostasy of the Saints from grace will inferre that they who are the children of GOD by true regeneration this day may the next day become the children of the Devil Because the grace that they have now they may utterly lose it erre to morrow He asketh whether I look upon the Quakers as having fallen away Answer His book containing nor onely his privat sentiments but the common opinions of Quakers is a sufficient proof that they have apostatized and fallen from the truth and such of them as have felt a gracious operation on their hearts but in this houre of temptation are under a sad snare I trust the Lord will convince them and grant them repentance to the acknowledgement of the truth that by their rysing againe they may edify and rejoice those Souls whom they have wounded and stumbled by their fall HEAD XVI Concerning the hazard and danger of Quakerism SECT I. It tends to the neglect of that Worship which is due to GOD. He saith page 67. That they deny not true worship but onely our Idolatrous worship Answer If our Worship were Idolatrous they had reason to deny it but it is unreasonable to call our Worship Idolatrous when they have not a shadow of reason to prove it to be so unless the Gentle-man think that 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 the Quakers naked affirmation is a sufficient reason Now it is manifest that Quakers refuse GOD the worship which is due to him in the use of the creatures in that they can and do adventure to use these without seeking GODS Blessing upon them which hath been by former Saints accounted a profane custome utterly unfit to be heard of among Christians professing the knowledge and fear of GOD Are we not commanded to eat and drink to the glory of GOD 1. Cor. 10.31 And must we not then look up to GOD and desire his help to improve the creatures to his glory Besids the creatures of themselves cannot nourish us if GOD deny his blessing our eating and drinking can do us no good and therefore we have need to address our selves to GOD by prayer for by this means the blessing is obtained and the creatures come to be sanctified to us 1. Tim. 4.4 Object To receive the benefits and gifts of GOD with thanksgiving and to witness it sanctified to us by the word and prayer is owned by us Answer Do Quakers witness the creatures sanctified to them by prayer when yet they do not pray for the sanctified use of them Pray observe the way that Christ tooke his example is worth our imitation at the receiving of the creatures he lookt up to Heaven for a blessing Mark 6.14 and gave thanks Matth. 15.36 and this appeares to have been his ordinary practise he was knowne of his Disciples in breaking bread it being his ordinary manner to bless the bread in some special way which he break whereby he was discerned and differenced from others Luk. 24.30.31 Object It is usual among us when we sit down to waite upon the Lord for sometime that we may know our selves stated in his fear and as there we stand outward expressions may be uttered by us Answer When they are not thus stated in GODS fear yet they have liberty and freedom to fall to meat so it would seeme though they will not pray without fear yet they can eate without fear which is the character of wicked persons Jude verse 12. As for their waiting its but an engine to overthrow Scripture precepts seeing it hath reference to a new inward command without which they do not hold themselves obliged to express their desire in words but as they are thus required of them He addeth page 68. That to say that a man cannot nor ought not to pray without an impulse the spirits drawing and motion hath no bad tendency because all such prayers as are performed without the help of the spirit are abomination not true prayers but hypocritical and deceitful Answer We grant these things First That the spirit teacheth and helpeth the Saints to pray sometimes they are so stirred and moved to prayer that they cannot be at quiet but they must to some secret corner and there poure out their complaints before the LORD Gal. 4.6 Secondly That the season when the spirit moveth to duty should be laid hold on Psal 27.8 when thou saidst seek ye my face my heart said unto thee thy face I will seek Thirdly When the spirit moveth the w●ek is sweetest then the Christian is cheerful in the exercise
of Redemption Mark 16.1.2 2. On this day our Lord graciously and frequently appeared unto his Disciples Ioh. 20.19 3. On this day our Lord declared himself to be the Son of GOD with Power Rom. 1.4 4. On this day our Lord plentifully poured his Spirit upon his Apostles for Penticost or the fifthtieth day from the Passover is computed to have fallen out that year on this day Act. 2.1.2 Thus it is apparent that the first day of the week may beyond other dayes be peculiarly termed the Lords day To this may be subjoyned the observation of famous Beza who observes out of an ancient Greek Manuscript wherein the first day of the week is expresly called the Lords day Now this day being called the Lords it imports that the Lord is the authour and instituter of it this tittle as I remember the Lords is in the New Testament attributed but to two things namely to the Supper 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 and the day 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 now the Supper is called the Lords because he did institute and appoint it and so the day is called the Lords because Christ is the authour and appointer of it and therefore in keeping this day we walk obediently to the fourth Command which requires on day to be observed as a Sabbath which the Lord appointeth we then keep this day because it is a day instituted and appointed by the Lord. Neither must those two expressions the day of the Lord and the Lords day be confounded for all dayes wherein GOD executeth judgement upon sinners are dayes of the Lord Amos 5.18.20 But the Lords day mentioned Revel 1. is but one which at that time was known to the Churches to be the first day of the week Ignatius who lived in Iohns time speaking of this day saith Omnis Christi amator Dominicum celebret diem Reginam Principem dierum omnium that is let every one that loveth Christ keep holy the Lords day which is the Queen and Empress of all dayes Whereas page 61. 62. he insinuats that every day even all the dayes of our life are to be given up unto the Lord and spent in his service Answer It is true we ought daily to be employed in the worship and service of GOD But as this will not inferre that every day is to be keeps as a sabbath which must be wholly consecrated to the service of GOD so it makes nothing against the keeping of a weekly sabbath for the Jews before Christ were bound every day to serve GOD and yet they were tyed to the observance of a weekly Sabbath Thus my former charge is still made good against Quakers that it is for the inventions of men but the ordinances of Jesus Christ which they disowne HEAD XIV Concerning Original Sin which Quakers deny He affirmeth page 62. That the thing which we intend by original sin is not expressed in scripture Ans Is it not expressed in Scripture that there is corruptiō and sin in us from our conception and birth And this is that which we intend by original sin for this the Scripture is plaine Ioh. 3.6 that which is born of the flesh is flesh intimating that men by their natural birth are corrupt and fleshly Job speaking of mans birth uttereth these words who can bring a clean thing out of an unclean Job 14.4 David acknowledged that corruption and sin wherewith he was defiled from his conception Psalm 51.5 He saith the thing that we intend by original sin is that all infants are sinners before GOD onely for Adams sin Answer It seemeth he is not well acquainted with our Doctrine about original sin It is true we assert and with good warrand that Infants are guilty of Adams sin for in Adam all die and therefore in him all have sinned 1. Cor. 15.22 And though Adams first sin may be called original sin yet we distinguish of original sin it being either imputed or inherent Original sin imputed is the disobedience of Adam which is imputed to his posterity Rom. 5.19 by one mans disobedience many were made sinners Original sin inherent is that hereditary inbred corruption which we brought with us into the world and this is conveyed and derived to Infants from their immediat Parents in sin did my mother conceive me Page 63. He denyeth that the guilt of Adams first sin lyes at the door of Infants who never actually sinned Answer The Apostle confutes the Quaker Rom. 5.12 Where first he sheweth that by one man namely Adam sin came into the world Secondly That death entered the world by sin Thirdly That death i. e. lyableness to death passed upon all Fourthly The reason why death which came by the sin of one man passed upon all for that all have sinned so that Infants are not exempted from the guilt of that one mans sin which will be further clear if it be considered that the Greek 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 wil bear in whom thus it is varied on the margin of our books and so Beza renders it and they who are well skilled in the Greek think this the best reading Now it is onely one of three things that can be alledged for the antecedent of this relative in whom either sin or death or that one man but it is not sin for 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 rendred sin cannot answere the Greek relative because they are of different genders neither is it death as the Quakers pretend for what sense is it to say in which death all have sinned This is an improper speach It was long since observed that in peccato moriuntur homines non in morte peccant men dye in sin they are not said to sin in death and therefore this in whom hath reference to that one man namely Adam in him all without exception of Infants have sinned Object It is plaine that sin is not imputed to Infants for the Apostle saith Rom. 5.13 sin is not imputed where there is no Law now Infants are not capable of a Law Answer Infants may be considered in respect of their own persons or in respect of their representative now though Infants as to their owne proper persons be not capable of a law for they cannot discerne between their right hand and their left yet their representative was capable of a law Yea to Adam the representative of all mankind a law was actually given and this will serve to answer the Quakers two other Objections 1. Object Why should Infants be guilty of Adams sin and not of the sin of their other forefathers Answer The reason is because Adam is to be lookt upon not as a single individual person but as a publick universall person Now that Adam was a publick person representing mankind is evident from the miserable event of his sin which made not onely himself obnoxious to death but likewise his Posterity descending from him in an ordinary way Rom. 5.12 Yea such of his Posterity have come under death as never actually sinned in their