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A29753 Quakerisme the path-way to paganisme, or, A vieu of the Quakers religion being an examination of the theses and apologie of Robert Barclay, one of their number, published lately in Latine, to discover to the world, what that is, which they hold and owne for the only true Christian religion / by John Brown ... Brown, John, 1610?-1679.; R. M. C. 1678 (1678) Wing B5033; ESTC R10085 718,829 590

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be called an honorary which is purely for necessity They will not have this honorary fixed and limited nor the persons constrained to give it Why then doth the Apostle adde the labourer is worthy of his reward Is the labourers reward left to the discretion of the giver Why then saith Iames Chap. 5 4 behold the hire of the labourers which have reaped downe your fields which is of you keept back by fraud cryeth and the cryes of them which have reaped are entered into the eares of the Lord of Sabaoth It is an hire we see that cannot be keeped back but by fraud and when it is keeped back it cryeth Is the labourers reward unfixed Or may not Law and Justice compel an unrighteous man to give the labourer his hire 6. Let us adde to these the saying of our Lord and Master Mat. 10 10. Luk. 10 17. The workman is worthy of his meat and in the other place it is is worthy of his hire Our Lord is sending forth his 70. Disciples upon a message and work that was not to endure long and disswadeth them from anxiety or fear of want seing the labourer is worthy of his meat and hire and that they might expect and by Meat in Matthew he meaneth all things necessary for their accommodation and for fitting them for the work they were about for it was to supply their owne provideing of gold and silver in their purses and scrip for their journey and shoes and stayes These things he would not have them provide for themselves because they should be provided of them by those among whom they laboured And in Luk. it is called an hire And that it might appear that he would not have them entertained as almouners he addeth go not from house to house If then Christ's allowance was such to them who were but employed in that particular message to goe before Christ towards Ierusalem as his fore-runners what shall we say of Quakers that will allow so little encouragement to such who must be employed in this work all their dayes and give themselves wholly unto it and must not entangle themselves with the things of this life but must minde this work alone and be instant in season and out of season They will allow them an almes and hardly that unless great necessity require it but where is the hire the wages that justice calleth for They have no heart to this 7. Adde to these 1 That Christ himself not only made use of the service of women that ministered unto him of their substance Luk. 8 3. and so had provision of that kinde wherever he came but we read that He and his Company had a bag which Iudas carryed Ioan. 12 6. out of which they provided themselves as they thought fit Ioh. 4 8. 13 29. and gave also to the poor ibid. and if they had to give to the poor they had more then their own urgent necessity called for But our Quakers would have ministers to excercise no charity to the poor 2. It is required of Ministers that they be given to hospitality 1 Tim. 3 v. 2. Tit. 1 8. But if they have no more than what their owne necessity requireth their hospitality must needs be slender 3. Had Ministers only what Quakers do allow it were to be feared that many to procure the favour and good will of their hearers and so obtaine a larger allowance of their benevolence would flatter too much reprove faithfully too little use too little ministerial boldness many would be put to wrestle with no small difficulties and strong temptations perturbations of minde anxiety c. that would very much unfit them for their work 4. This were an high way to render the Ministers and consequently the Ministrie contemptible 5. Few would be encouraged to enter upon that painful work and have all outward discouragements to expect too 6. Nature taught heathens a far other thing 7. Shall Superstitious Idolaters be so extravagant and shall Christians be so spareing 8. It may be Quakers themselves take more than for mere necessity And whence soever it cometh some faithful Servants of Christ are not so well provided for as all of them are 8. Let us now proceed and heare what this Quaker saith He saith we are forced to run to the example of the Law which we use as a refuge in defending many of our errours and superstitions which are contrary to the nature and purity of the Gospel Ans. We look upon this but as a calumnious untruth uttered by a Quaker who speaketh without ground and thinks hereby to make himself and his party to he looked upon as the only pure Gospellers When yet wise and understanding persons will see them to be the most desperat Enemies to the Gospel that ever appeared 2. We see the Apostle made use of the Law and we may do the like But what inferre we from the law That the tithes belong to Ministers under the Gospel And what saith he to this Nothing can be hence collected but that as the priests under the Law had their assigned aliment so ministers now should have The comparison should not be so far extended as to say that Ministers should only have the same that is nothing but the tithes As for Ans. I ●hall wilingly grant that if there be any who thus argue their ground is not good and who they are that plead for the tithes as the only way of maintaining the ministrie I would faine know of him He knoweth sure that this is not the only way in Scotland If the Ministers have a quota allowed proportionable to what the Priests and Levites had I suppose many will be satisfied and I am sure this will be a far greater allowance then he will willingly condescend unto The Ministers of old had more than the tithes they had many gifts much of the sacrifices many whole Cities fourtie eight in number with their suburbs But to make short with him I shall not plead for the tithes as the only necessary way Let there be a competent honorary granted whether in lieu of the tithes or otherwise I am satisfied yet where tithes are setled by Law as the way I see not what he or any can say against it His following reasons conclude not this to be simply unlawful and therefore I let them passe for I do not plead for it as only necessary 9. But even as to the aliment he sayes Pag. 211. that if the people will not willingly give Ministers must not receive it nor compel the people to give it Ans. I confess if the people will not give it it can hardly be received but if people may not be compelled to give it how shall Ministers live How shall their necessities be supplied How is it the Labourers hire and wages But he proveth it from Mat. 10 8. freely you have received freely give and addeth yet it was free for them to take meat and drink from such as willingly gave it
Master-workers are so active and busie It is not good to approach too nigh to a rageing Devil nor to tempt the Lord The history of the two persons that would be present at stage playes is known and the Reader may see the same related to his hand by the worthy Author of the first Epistle to the Reader prefixed to Mr Durham's Exposition of the Commands Let any sober and judicious person consider that which these Quakers call their Solemne Worshipe as this R. Barclay hath laid it forth before us and judge whether there be not there to be found without any narrow search such plaine Vestiges of Devilrie that may cause all in whom is the least mea●ure of the fear of God run far from them as from persons possessed with an evil Spirit and acted by the Devil the God of this world the Prince of the power of the aire the Spirit that now ruleth in the Children of disobedience Nothing that I ever heard or knew of them before did so much confirme me of their Devilrie as the reading and examining of that which thou hast here Chap. XXII Beside that every one may know that it is something more then Humane for persons Illiterat and of meane Understandings when turning Quakers to learne in so short a time in a few dayes if not in a few houres all their Notions Errours Blasphemies Prancks and Practices all so contrary to the Way and Profession wherein they have lived from their Infancy that they can act their wayes and utter their Abomination in their very dialect and tone so exactly as if they had seen nothing else all their dayes to speak nothing of Persons civilly educated who yet turning Quakers can so suddenly and so perfectly imitate and follow their rude and rustick carriage as if they had never seen civility with their eyes All which may confirme Rational Persons that it is not humane but the work of some powerful Spirit possessing them And what this Spirit is which Teacheth Possesseth Prompteth Acteth Leadeth and Driveth them and Speaketh in them the Word of God doth sufficiently evidence and may satisfie all Christians By the fruit we know a tree and by their doctrine we may as infallibly know that it is the Spirit of Satan that rageth in them if we will be satisfied with and submit to the Decision of the Spirit of Truth speaking in the Scriptures Their Unsavoury Pernicious and Blasphemous Positions and Assertions will put this matter beyond all debate I have gathered together an heap of such to the Number of Three Hundered and Fiftie and moe and the Reader may possibly finde yet moe that have escaped me and that without noticeing such things as may be drawn by just consequence from their Positive Assertions for if these were collected we might soon finde out the number of the Name of the Beast Six hundereth Sixty and Six to which may be added Sixty and Five found in one book of G. Keiths set down here at the end after the Postscript by which thou mayest judge what a Masse would be found if all their Books were searched But I suppose the fearer of God will say there is here enough and more then enough to cause all Christians abhore them and flee from them as from the Devil himself I shall not trouble thee with any Apologie for the work it self Only because I apprehend some will think I am too large and might have contracted the whole into narrower bounds I must tell thee that considering the genius and temper of these Quakers and knowing how ready they would be to vaunt and triumph as if any thing they said were unanswerable if I had passed over any thing said by their Patron and Advocat and had not examined particularly not only his Erronious and Blasphemous Assertions but also all that he did alledge for confirmation of the same and also all that he belched out against the Truth I was constrained to leave nothing untouched and that the book might be of more universal use I saw a necessitie of clearing and confirming the Truths Opposed by other Grounds and Arguments then this Contradicter of the wayes of Truth had taken any notice of And yet I have done it with that brevitie that maketh me apprehend Moe shall blame me upon the other hand for not confirming the Turths at greater length seing as to several Heads here touched Others now a dayes beside Quakers are appearing against the Truth once received The Heads it is true are many and I have in most for confirmation adduced only our Confession of Faith and Catechismes to the end that one and other may be enduced to peruse that book more as a good Antidote against the many Errours of this time pointing withall the Readers to apposite passages of Scripture for the ground of their faith And if I had handled each Controversie here touched at full length how many volumes should I have been necessitate to have written What intertainment this shall finde with the Quakers a sort of Men that cannot be silent I am not much concerned to enquire And if they examine it as Rats or Mice use to deal with books snatching at a word here and at half a sentence there and no more I suppose no man will think me called to notice the fame nor yet to be troubled at their Railings and Barkings And as for any answere to the whole that shall savoure of Reason Religion Candor and Plainness I do not expect it from them Farewell J. B. A Catalogue Of the arrogant erroneous and blasphemous Assertions of the Quakers mentioned in this book which may serve for an Index to the same 1. Of themselves 1. THey arrogantly stile themselves the servants of God c. 3 10 2. They glory of the Title Quakers 4 3. They account themselves the only Teachers of truth equalizing themselves with the Apostles 9 4. They say they are perfect without sin 11 5. They assert their experiences in matters that cannot be experienced 213 6. They say they only taste see and smell the Inward light 240 7. All their preaching is to call people to turn-in to the light within and to the Christ within them 281 292 8. They assert themselves to be equal with God 326 546 9. They say their quaking ariseth from a strugling within betwixt the power of life and the power of darkness whereby they have the very paines of a woman in travail 418 10. All is done without the Spirit that is not done in their way 440 442 447 11. They remaine covered when we pray or praise to keep their consciences unhurt as they say but really to mock 460 12. It can appear to them when the Spirit of the Lord concurreth with one of our Ministers and when not 460 13. They falsly say that all who are against them maintaine the lawfulness of Comoedies vanity of Apparel 533 534 14. They account their doctrine very harmonious think that to them alone the ancient
some other Abomination lurking under this To wit That this manifestation of the Father by the Son is not to be understood of a Gospel Manifestation but of a Natural Manifestation had in and by the works of Creation and so not of a Manifestation peculiar to the Church and people of God but of a Manifestation common to Heathens and all without the pale of the Church otherwise he shall hereby destroy what afterward he laboureth to build viz. the Universality of this Manifestation But whoever considereth the Scriptures by us cited shall finde that Christ meaneth a manifestation and declaration of the Father in and by the Gospel and Gospel Ordinances to the destruction of this mans Universality 9. He cometh § 6. to the clearing of his second Proposition viz. That there is no knowledge of the Son but by the Spirit And who will deny this as to that Knowledge which is truely and eventually saving of which Saving Certane and Necessary Knowledge his Proposition is to be understood as himself expresly showeth us with an Observandum and 1 Cor. 2 11 12. 12 3. whereby he proveth this are cleare enough but I see not the necessity of adduceing as a proof hereof Revel 3 20. behold I stand at the door c. Yet beside this Saving knowledge there is a Literal knowledge had by the common gifts of the Spirit which is also true in its kinde and though as to any Saving Effect it be Ineffectual yet we must not say with him Pag. 12. that the Spiritual Truths in the Gospel are as lies in the mouth of carnal persons for they are true even as to them Heb. 10 26. Some may sin wilfully after they have received the knowledg of the truth for whom no more sacrifice remaineth and 2 Pet. 2 20 21. Some may have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Iesus Christ and have known the way of righteousness who after they have known it turne from the holy commandement c. I cannot then say with him that this Knowledge of Christ is no more properly to be called a Knowledge of Christ than the speaking of a Parot is properly humane knowledge for I cannot think that when Christ sent Iudas to preach the Gospel it was as a man sending an ambassage by the hand of a Parot or that Balaam had no real knowledge of what was revealed unto him in his trance 10. But not insisting on this which is not much to the maine purpose I Observe that the thing which concerned him chiefly to clear up prov● is not once touched by him here He should have proved t● us That this teaching of Christ by the Spirit is and was alwayes by Immediat Revelation that is by Enthusiasmes and such Extraordinary Wayes Nor doth he which is also remarkable distinguish betwixt Christs teaching by the Spirit in the Prophets of old and the Apostles of late and Christs own teaching Immediatly in his own Person while Incarnate which two the Apostle clearly differenceth Heb. 1 1 2. 2 3 4. Nor doth he speak any thing of Christs Mediat teaching whether by Apostles extraordinarily assisted or by Ordinary Ministers or by his Word nay by his language we might suppose that he excludeth these wayes from being wayes of Christ's teaching contrare to Math. 10 20. 1 Thes. 4 8. 2 Cor. 5 19 20. Mat. 28 18 19. and many other places 11. Let us proceed and see what he saith § 7. in confirmation of the third Proposition viz. That God did alwayes make himself manifest to the Sons of Men by the Spirit For this cause he would have us considering how God from the beginning did manifest himself in his creatures But our enquiry should be how he did manifest himself to his creatures These words in creaturis suis in his creatures cannot but be understood of the way of his manifesting himself But to Manifest Himself in or by the Creatures is not the same with Manifesting H●mself in or by the Spirit For confirmation of his Proposition he adduceth Gen. 1.2 And the Spirit of the Lord moved upon the face of the waters Is not this a pregnant proof of Gods revealing his minde unto Men who were not yet created B●t passing this ridiculous Argument which moreover perverteth the genuine meaning of the Spirit of the Lord in that passage let us see what he adduceth further I think faith he no man will deny that from Adam to Moses Gods communion with man was by immediat manifestation of the Spirit I answere Though it be true that Christ as the great Prophet of his Church did by the Spirit reveal the Counsel of God concerning mans salvation yet that he did this by the Spirit 's Immediat Revelation unto every Individual Person will never be proved now this being the matter that he would have us grant and which only maketh for his purpose he must prove it ere we assent to it That the Lord was pleased to reveal his mind Immedialy to Some and by them to Others from Adam to Moses we know but that every individual Person even of the people of God were advanced to this privilege I deny Yea even dureing that time we read in Scripture but little of these Manifestations We know what was spoken immediatly to Adam to Cain we read also of the Prophecy of En●h in Iud's Epistle which yet was not any new Truth revealed we read also of what was revealed to Noah and to Abraham to Isaac and to Iacob and to so●e few others But what will all this make for his point Sure these few persons were not all that lived dureing that long tract of time what then became of the rest how were they instructed was it not Mediatly by those Patriarchs and selected Persons And did not the Fathers instruct their children from generation to generation that the right worship and knowledg of God might be propagated from hand to hand 12. This proof evincing nothing let us see the next afterward saith he in the times of the law the Lord spoke no other way to his children which cannot be denied by such who acknowledge the Scriptures to have been written by the inspiration of the Holy Ghost Answere That the Scriptures of the Old Test. were so written I grant That the persons imployed in that work had immediat Revelations to this end I grant Nay moreover I grant that all other true Prophets who were raised up of the Lord whose Prophecies the Lord thought not fit to make a part of the Canon of the Scriptures had Divine Inward and Immediat Revelations But this Reason is as childish as the preceeding Doth he think that this is enough to prove his point Doth he think that all the rest of the people of God in those generations had those Immediat Revelations or that this followeth as a clear consequence from his Argument What folly is here He might as well prove that all the people of this
he hath gained nothing for I would say so that the Lord Jesus hath by his Spirit revealed Truths even Objectively unto us and even this way made good these promises but how By Inspireing Apostles and others to pen Scripture wherein all New Testament Truths necessary and sufficient for us to be believed and obeyed in order to Salvation are contained and revealed Is not this a proposeing of Truths Objectively Nay more I say the Spirit to this day is proposeing to us truths Objectively in by the work of the Ministrie and Ordinances which are established and maintained by the Spirit for this end to clear up the word of Reconciliation and to explaine all Gospel Truths which we are to believe and obey Here is also an Objective proposal by the Spirit But you will say it is not an Immediat Objective proposal I grant it and yet it is sufficient to confute his reason which mentioneth not this Immediatness nor will he prove any such thing out of these Scriptures in reference to all beleevers 29 Now followeth his Second Argument taken as he sayes from the new Covenant whereby he would prove that we are to be led by the Spirit not only Immediatly but also Objectively A strange conclusion as full of confusion as the former for any would think that by Objectively here he meaneth Mediatly But I suppose he would have said not only Subjectively but also Objectively For clearing of the matter and to prevent a fighting in the dark we would know That the work of the Spirit in order to the beleeving of Truths is either in and about the Soul of the man whom he is to give a Revelation of the truth unto or is in and about the Truth which is revealed and to be beleeved The First is that which is meaned by the word subjective because the man is the subject in which the Spirit is to work faith The Other is that which is expressed by the word Objective because the truth revealed is the Object which is to be beleeved and received Now the Subjective Operation of the Spirit in this matter is by enlightning the Understanding of the man taking away the vail that was over his eyes and thus enabling him to see the Object as when Christ cured the blinde man he put him in case to see the light which he could not do before so the Spirit openeth the eyes of the minde of the man that he may see the wonders out of his law Psal. 119 18. As to this immediat work of the Spirit though the Lord thinketh good to do this ordinarly in and by the use of meanes which he hath appointed so that the word Immediatly must not be so understood as to exclude these he maketh no debate with us But as to the Objective operation of the Spirit it is by proposeing of the Object or Truth to be beleeved unto the Intellect as true and as spoken by God and this is twofold either External or Internal External is when the Truth is proposed by God to the Intellect by outward meanes such as the Scriptures Preachers and the like and this may be also called Mediat Internal which may be called Immediat is when the Lord's Spirit doth immediatly propose the Truth to be believed as true and as spoken to them as a truth now to be believed because thus spoken by Him immediatly unto their souls unto which is requisite a real secret operation of the Spirit immediatly carrying the truth in upon the Understanding by Supernatural and Immediatly Infused intelligible Species's The former mediat way this man is not Satisfied with and this last immediat way is that whereby Truths were revealed extraordinarily to Prophets and Apostles and other● who were Inspired and is usually called Prophetick Revelation and in this sense is the word Revelation ordinarily taken in Scripture And this is the Revelation Immediat and Objective which this man would plead for and which we deny to be common to all believers whether under ●he Old Testam or under the New And which we also deny to be ●he way by which we are to expect the Teachings and Leadings of the Spirit now seing we are built upon the foundation of the Prophets and Apostles Christ himself being the chiefe corner stone Ephes. 2 20. 30. Now let us see how he proveth his point He adduceth two passages of Scripture Esai 59 21. and Ier. 31 33. with its parallel Heb. 8 10. where the Lord promiseth that the words which he shall put in their mouth shall not depart out of their mouth nor out of the mouth of their seed nor out of the mouth of their seeds seed from hence forth even for ever And that he will put his law in their inward parts and write it in their hearts c And what I pray can all this Evince Cannot the Lord put his words in the mouth and hearts of his People Mediatly Ay but saith he the Lord saith not that he will do this by Scriptures or other Means Nor doth he say say I that he will do it without them when he opened the heart of Lydia and when he caused the Thessalonians receive the word not as the word of Man though preached by Paul but as it is indeed the Word of God did he not put his word into their mouth and write it in their hearts But saith he hereby is the law and the Gospel differenced that the law was writen in tables of stone but the Gospel in the heart Ans. Said not David Psal. 40 8. that the law of God was in his heart And Ps. 119 11 that he hid Gods Word in his heart If it be so why said he before and went about to prove that the Object of faith of beleevers under the Law and under the Gospel was the same and how had all the Saints under the Law Immediat Revelations Other answers might be given here but these are sufficient to shew the mans Ignorance and Inconstancy when he hath reconciled himself to himself we will have less to do What he speaks afterward of Immediat Communion which is not the same with Immediat Revelation in respect whereof the state of beleevers under the Gospel is better than that under the Law is but to confirme further his self contradiction Let him reconcile this with what he said before of beleevers under the Law and of the sameness of the Object formal of the faith of both and we shall think ourselves concerned to notice what he saith But further to multiply his self contradictions he addeth an Untruth viz. That under the Law they had the high Priest immediatly receiving the Word of God in the holy of holies to teach the people and we say now under th● Gospel there is nothing but the external letter of the Scripture in the meaning of one verse of which scarce two do agree For neither can he prove that the High Priest had such Revelations alwayes in the Holy of Holies And we
say as well as he that beleevers now have free accesse to Christ the great Teacher of his people alwayes to get his minde known and writen in their hearts but not to get Prophetick Revelations and even as to the Scriptures of which this man speaketh so basely though they also had the Law and the Testimony Esa. 8 20. and were to search the Scriptures Iob. 5 39. we cannot think they had the advantage of us in respect of the many Immediat Revelations made unto the Prophets because of what the Apostle Peter saith 2 P●t 1 19. Beside that every one may see that the Word of God Writen and delivered by men immediatly Inspired is as sure a ground of faith to others as the Word of God Spoken by a man immediatly Inspired and that the former hath the moe advantages And whereas he talketh of the discrepancy of mens judgments as to the meaning of the Scriptures is he so blinde as not to see that the very words of immediatly Inspired High Priests and Prophets were obnoxious to the same mistakes and more Is a Set Long Continued Discouse more intelligible to judgments of all syzes than the same discourse Writen and put into every mans hand to Read and Meditate upon to Ponder and Consider all its Parts Coherence c What shall we then say of this Man who reasoneth thus against Truth and common Sense 31. His third and last Reason is from 1 Ioh. 2 27. which place together with Ier. 31 34. hath been alwayes perverted by the Phanaticks as also by the Author of Theologia Germanica Cap. 18. thereby turning the grace of God into lasciviousness and turning his goodness into licentiousness for ordinarily these and the like places are adduced to Countenance their Despiseing and Rejecting of the Ordinances of Christ and of Teaching while yet notwith●tanding hereof themselves are as busie as possible to pervert with teaching and scriblings as if all this Unction could not take away the necessity of their Teaching albeit it may take away the necessity of all other Teaching whatsomever But is it not strange that if this were the meaning of the words that Iohn should not know it or if he know it that notwithstanding thereof he should write thus unto them and acquant them with what he judged necessary and particularly should decyphre by so many marks the Antichrist's and Seducers Strange it is that this Unction that teacheth all things could not teach them to know the usefulness of it until Iohn did thus signifie it unto them and yet more strange that if matters be thus the Spirit of God should have Inspired and Acted Iohn unto the writing of this Epistle and other holy Men of God to have writen Scripture for by their Interpretation this Unction maketh the whole Scripture useless And indeed this Man is not a●hamed to tell us that this Unction is a more sure Rule for finding out and discerning Seducers than Iohn's writings which not only hath no shadow of countenance from the text but doth also render the whole Ministrie of the Apostles in teaching Useless and Unnecessary and so destroyeth at one blow all Gospel Dispensations But were not beleevers under the law made partakers of his Unction if not what do all the Immediat Revelations which they had import where is the Onenesse or sameness of the formal Object of their faith and ours under the New Test And then what is become of all his former reasonings But if even beleevers under the Law were made partakers of this Unction in some measure why did the Lord raise up Prophets Why might not they have examined and tryed all their Prophecies by this Unction What advantage had they by the Immediat Revelations made unto the High Priests Why were they commanded to go to the Law and to the Testimony Why doth Christ send them to the Scriptures and not to this Inward Unction These things cannot well hang together Moreover what understandeth he by this Unction Will he say that by it must be understood Immediat Objective Revelation How can this be more sure and certane than the Immediat Objective Revelations which the Apostles had and are set down in Scriptures Is one Immediat Objective Divine Revelation more sure and certane than Another But it may be that by this Unction he meaneth the Light within Yet neither can this hold for the Light within is common to all men but this Unction he maketh common only to the Saints Enough of this which hath been abundantly answered by others and else where to wit in the book against Velthusius I had occasion to speak to it and shall not here repeat what is there said 32. Having thus proved as well as he could what he thought convenient for his purpose he tels us that he will now answere Objections and the first and only objection which he taketh notice of § 13. is That these Revelations are uncertane And when he hath thus ignorantly or unfairely proposed the Objection he cryeth out of the Ignorance of his Adversaries and very learnedly tels us that he distinguisheth betwixt the Thesis and Hypothesis and that it is one thing to say that the true and undoubted revelations of the Spirit of God are certane and infallible and another thing to say that this or that man hath infallible revelations and that he affirmed the first Which his adversaries will affirme as well as he and that the last may be questioned But with his leave I shall frame the Objection thus If since the Apostles and the extraordinary Officers whom God was pleased to imploy at the laying the foundation of the Gospel Administration fell asleep and after the canon of the Scriptures was compleated all that ever pretended to these Immediat Revelations and Inspirations as a ground of Faith Obedience have borne the signal marks of the displeasure of God and given by their Practices or by their Opinions or Both evident toakens of their being acted and led by a Spirit of Errour and Wickedness and of their being given up of God to strong delusions then we may saifly inferre that this is not the way of Christ now the Gospel is clearly and fully revealed the canon of the Scriptures is perfected whereby He teacheth and leadeth His people nor ought to be owned as such But the former is true Therefore so is the other The connexion or Major Proposition is such I think as no man can except against who regairdeth the Works of the Lord and the Operation of his hands And who can imagine that if such a way of God's manifesting of his minde now were the only way of God's leading of all his owne he should put such Open Manifest and Undoubted Marks of his displeasure upon those men who of all the rest of the world were most giving up themselvs to the only saife and Christian Way of understanding God's minde Or that these should be specially given up to crosse and contradict the Immediat Objective and
6. Rev. 22 18. and others of the same import as Gal. 1 8. Mat. 15 6. So that it is hence cleare that the Doctrine contained in the Scriptures is full and Compleet for to it nothing must be added not must any thing be diminished therefrom Now to these this Ma● replyeth with Bellarmine That Iohn in the Revelation meaneth only that particular book That notwithstanding thereof the Pr●phe●s of old did adde their Prophecies But how vaine these shifts are who seeth not Seing what is spoken of that Book and elsewhere of the Commands of God is consequently to be understood of all and as none might adde to the law delivered by Moses nor to the Word held forth by the Prophets so the Canon being closed and the same prohibition renewed at the close thereof we are assured hence that the Canon is Perfected as for the Prophecies of the Prophets these were properly no Additions to but Explications of the law of God and beside the Lord did not binde up his owne hand when he tyed up mans from adding or diminishing But he tels us further that there were Prophets even after Iohns dayes and at the Reformation and since Which is nothing to the purpose for these who foretold events took not upon them to prescribe thereupon doctrines to others nor did they make any such Revelation the Ground and Rule of Faith and Manners ei●her to themselves or others far less did they plead upon this account against the Perfection of the Scriptures as our Quakers do Wherefore it is manifest that the Spirit of Divination which t●ey plead for is a corrupt Antichristian Spirit But in end he sayeth that these places are to be understood only of such as adde new doctrine contrary to the old of such as adde humane words to God's but not of them who only bring a new and more copious revelation of ancient doctrine As if additions of new Revelations to the canon did not ●eclare the canon Imperfect This is the same which Bellarmine and other Papists say for their Traditions viz. That they are not Additions but Explications yet both their Traditions our Quakers new Revelations must thereby be as highly valued as the writtings of the prophets and Apostles which were but further Explications and Revelations of the same old foundamental doctrine deliverd by Moses and thus what our Quakers do deliver by such Revelations as they pretend unto must be looked upon as of the same authority with what the holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the Holy Ghost and with the Scriptures which are of divine Inspiration and what they speak thus are not mens words but Gods and must be received as such though they contradict what we have registrate in the Scriptures of truth Here is prodigious and blasphemous Audacity beyond what Papists though audacious enough dar be guilty of for they willingly grant that there is no place now left for adding to the Scriptures or doctrine delivered by the Prophets and Apostles any new Prophecies or Revelations But I would ask him one thing If he speak truth here when shall our Canon be compleated that no more needs be added Sure it must never he Perfected as long as they live or the time will come when they will need no moe Revelations and consequently according to their doctrine will nead no more help of the Spirit or of the Light within or that the Revelations which they shall then have will be useless Let him unriddle this mysterie if the can 31. Before I speak any more of their unreasonableness in this I would first see what Grounds he hath to decry the Perfection of the Scriptures Pag. 40. c. He tels us first That there are innumerable things which in reguard of particular circumstances are of great consequence unto Christians and yet there is no precise rule in the Scriptures concearning them But did ever any Rational man suppose that this was necessary to a Compleet Law and Rule to determine particularly and precisely of all and every particular action considered as to all its particular and individual circumstances Reasonable men will say that it is enough if it determine of a●l specifick actions and give general rules by which judgment may be made of all individual actions now this the Scripture doth richly and abundantly But he adduceth an instance to the contrary thus of a Minister called to preach the necessity of which office and ministrie himself denyeth though he make use of this argument ad hominem who can produce no call out of the Scriptures nor will the qualifications required of Min●sters evince that this man in particular is called nor can he be certaine that he is endued with these qualifications without the testimony of the Spirit and though he be endued and called no Scripture can tel him when and where he should pre●ch Generals will not serve here for he may sin when doing this or preaching here when he should be doing that and preaching in another place Answere 1. I might tell him that by his reasoning here he must grant that he and the rest of the Quakers must have a Real New Distinct and Particular Revelation for every action every word or silence every thought or no thought and so for their Eating Drinking Sleeping Wakeing Walking Sitting Standing Looking Hearing c. or their rule shall be as imperfect as ours for in all these and in respect of their circumstances they may sinne and so bring condemnation on themselves and yet as we will hear afterward he dar not say so much His saying that the Instance which he hath adduced is a matter of greater moment will not helpe the matter for if he will I shall prove to him that in the least of these particulars I have hinted he can sinne against God and that is enough by his owne confession here to render the matter momentous 2 To him it is true who denieth the Ministrie it self its Work and Exercise it cannot be that the Scriptures should Regulate particular persons in their taking on of the Office and in the Exercise thereof But to us who owne this as an Institution of Christ and shall in due place vindicate it from his Exceptions there is no Impossibility in the matter For we can prove from Scripture and shall do it in due time and place that there is such a standing Ordinance in the New Testament That there is an established Order whereby persons shall be duely Invested with the Office That there are certaine Qualifications required in the Person who is to be admitted to the Office That there is concurring an inward Work of the Spirit inclineing the man whom the Lord calleth unto this Office upon pure and spiritual grounds and motives and for holy and heavenly ends and this may be cleared also out of Scripture Ther● are passages of providence and circumstantial Works of the Lord which are great and sought out of all them that have pleasure
therein Psal. 111 2. which speak out God's minde as to circumstantial individual actions There are many General Rules which must be applied by Christian Wisdome Prudence and Discretion according to exemplary instances registrated in Scripture so that a person walking in the Light of the Lord and hanging upon Him singly for Light to understand the Rule and Wisdome to regulate his individual Actions thereunto shall see and be convinced of the Perfection of the Law of God and abhore the thoughts of tempting of God by looking for or asking New and Immediat Revelations yea and if any thing should occurre that by reason of its unusualness should seem to be some what extraordinarie and have some farr-resemblance unto that which some would call a Revelation will not rest till their Obedience be bottomed upon the unerring Rule and look upon such unusual manifestations as Confirmations rather than Grounds for their Faith and Obedience And in this the Lord may think good to consult the weakness of such well meaning persons who cannot see that in the Rule of the Scriptures as particularly applicable to their case which Others more mighty in the Scriptures and of more spiritual sharpnesse would easily discover All which tendeth to the Confirmation of the Fulness and Perfection of the Rule and no way to the crying-up and owneing of Inward and Immediat Revelations to the disparagment of the Law of the Lord which is Perfect Matters than being thus the Scripture-Rule able to regulate as a Rule when studied and wisely improven in all the particulars by him mentioned as might be showne Nay more might by shown that the Scripture can sufficiently Regulat the Christian deportment of every servant maide as to the very sweeping of the house how much more shall it be sufficient to Regulat a Minister the Man of God as to all his Deportment in the house of God What needs more to shame this effronted man than to recommend to his serious thoughts if he will do this upon my Recommendation without a new and distinct Revelation the study of these words of Paul already cited 2 Tim. 3 16 1 All Scripture is given by Inspiration of God and is profitable c. that the man of God may be perfect perfected or thorowly furnished to all good works If this be true and I doubt he hath the forehead yet to say otherwayes he may see Paul here answering all his Instances and telling him that his Allegations are not true And if he will not beleeve Paul immediatly Inspired it were unreasonable in us to expect that our more particular confronting his alleiged Instances out of Scripture should prevaile with him and as for Others who rest satisfied with the Testimony of the Apostle it were needless for us upon this light occasion to digresse further unto a scriptural discovery of these things Thus then we might have dismissed him But for further satisfaction to the Reader we shall goe on and see what he saith more 32. He tels us very honestly that Paul saith 1 Cor. 12. that every member must have its owne place in the Church and consequently their Church must be a monster that hath no distinct members every member must performe its owne function or else cause a schisme in the body and againe That the Lord will have each of his servants do the work which he putteth him to Which who can deny but Quakers who counteract this as is and shall be abundantly showne I know not and againe to the former purpose he citeth Rom 12. And we thank him for it But with all he addeth that no Scripture can tell him whether he should attend exh●rtation or Prophecy or ministry or doctrine And this is very true for he is no Church Officer of whom the Apostle there speaketh and having none of those gifts of Office he hath nothing to do with the Work peculiar to these Offices But others whom the Lord according to the Order established in His house whereunto this man is both a stranger and an enemy hath called to Prophecy and Teaching or Exhorting should wait upon it and performe their work according to the proportion of faith and such as are called to Ministry and to Giving should wait upon it and do it with simplicity cheerfulnesse and these who are called to Rule should do it with diligence Could not the man read this in the text But he would say The Scriptures say not that Iohn Iames or Peter should take on this or that Office Nor say I is this required of a Rule as such But how Iames Iohn or Peter shall know by the Scriptures that God calleth them to this or that imployment I have showne above 33 But the weightiest point of all is Pag. 41.42 That the Scriptures cannot give a man any certainty that he is in the faith and an heire of Salvaton And as for me if the Scriptures give not full Certainty in full measure heaped up and running over so farr as is competent to a Rule to do I shall despaire thereof What are there no marks given in Scripture whereby this may be known Yes sayes he But who shall perswade me that I have those marks that I beleeve that I obey c. Is this man in his wits that thinketh this should be done by a Rule Thinks he the Lawes of the land must say that Robert Barclay is a Quaker or that this or that man hath broken this or that Law If Robert Barclay had murthered a man and were impannelled thereupon would he think it a defence good enough in Law to say that in all the Acts of Parliament nay nor in all the Bible too it cannot be read that I Robert Barclay have murthered such a person Therefore t●e inference that I must die is founded upon no Law What shall a rational man think of this ridiculous Folly What doth he next He citeth our Confession of faith Chap. 18. Sect. 2. shewing how Assurance is had to which I heartily subscribe for as I shall be loath with this ignorant Man to confound the work proper to the Spirit of God with that which is proper to the Rule of the Scriptures so I shall be loath to decry the Scriptures and rob them of their due as this man doth under a pretext of setting up the Spirit or to deny to the Spirit of God any of his gracious works in the souls of his owne whatever this man think under a pretext of maintain●ng the Scriptures Perfection I only here assert and maintaine the Scriptures Perfection as a Rule granting to the Spirit with all cheerfulness and readiness of soul all that work which the Scriptures teach me to do and therefore I grant that the Spirit beareth witness with our Spirits that we are the children of God Rom. 8 16. and what can be rationally deduced from 1 Ioh. 4 13. 5 6. which he citeth I know that it is the Spirit that causeth us know the things that are
grosse mistakes He confoundeth the Spirits work the work of the Scriptures He confoundeth the Leader and Gu●de with the Way wherein the traveller walketh I should think a man that could not put a difference here should be that wise as to forbear to preach forth his folly to the world trouble the world with his ignorant and absurd impertinencies whereby he but maketh himself ridiculous not only in contradicting himself but likewise in contradicting common sense and the Scriptures also Himself in that he confesse● once and againe above though contrary to his owne assertions that the people under the Old Test. had the Law as their principal Rule and yet he will not deny but they had the Spirit also because he said so much in and upon his Secod Thesis so then by his doctrine the Spirit and the Scriptures can consist together and the difference betwixt the Old and New Test. must be this that under the Old Test. the Law was the principal Leader and Guide and the Spirit the less Principal Subordinat but now under the Gospel the Spirit is the More Principal and the Scriptures the less Principal Are not these learned notions Do they smell either of Reason or of Religion He contradicteth Common sense for every one knoweth that the Guide and the Way wherein he guideth differ every Scholer knoweth that his Master and his Book are two different things And every Christian knoweth how to distinguish betwixt the Law of the Lord and the Spirit that writteth that Law in his heart He contradicteth also the Scriptures which throughout discriminateth these two let him pause upon these following Ephes. 6 17. 1 Pet. 1 22. 4 6. Psal. 143.8 10. Prov. 1 23. Esai 59 21. Ier. 31 33 34. Heb. 8 8. Ezech. 36 26 27. Psal. 119 27 32 33. Esai 35 8. Ier. 6 16. Esa. 42 16. 48 17. Psal. 25 4 8 9 12. 85 13 139 24. Prov. 8 20. Psal. 5 8. 27 11. 86 11 119 37. 91 11. Prov. 3 6. with many moe that might be cited 38. He tels us Pag. 45. That only by the evidence and revelation of this Spirit they are freed from all the forementioned difficulties about the Scriptures Unworthy man why doth he then envye us of this good Why will he not tell us how they get these difficulties loosed by Revelation Why will he not acquant the world with this matter that we may no more be perplexed with these scruples Or must this good and advantage reside only with them But it is like we must first turne Quakers and then it is true we shall have the gordian knot not loosed but cut in pieces for we shall lay aside the Scriptures as useless altogether and so need not trouble ourselves with those difficulties but leave them as bones for dogs to whet their teeth upon One instance of the benefite of their Revelations he giveth of some of their number who could not so much as read and yet could discover corruptions in our version of the Bible But the good luck was that himself was judge I know that a k●owing beleever that is acquanted with the work of God upon his soul can understand when any thing is spoken by Ministers or Others contradictory or not consonant thereunto but that they have been able especially when so illiterate as not to know a letter of the Bible to correct versions or faults in the original I have not yet seen I have heard it is true of some that in trances and ecstacies have spoken strange languages that themselves understood not when in their ordinary posture If his Revelations be of this nature we have reason to pray that God would deliver us from them 39. But lest some should think that by this his discourse he were utterly decrying the Scriptures and driving at a laying of them aside as useless he giveth us an account of the high esteem he hath of them and of their usefulness in his judgment And in this he doth wisely and hereby I perceive that the Quakers now have learned a little more policy than at first for then they could not speak reproachfully enough of the Scriptures so that if they could have gained their point ere now the Scriptures had been quite laid by as an old almanack but finding that by all their unworthy Expressions and Endeavours they were so farr from prevailing this way that it turned to their detriment for wise people did so much the more abhore them and keep off from their courses they became at length so wise as to speak more soberly of the Scriptures and not to Raile against them at such an high rate as formerly as Papists also in words seem to extol the Scriptures See Bellarm. de Verbo Dei Lib. ● C. 2. Yet this remaineth fixed among them That the Scriptures are not made use of in their Assemblies It is below them to Expound any portion of it there or to adduce any Testimony there from for Confirmation of their Assertions whatever they do when speaking and writing to others who ground their faith upon the Scriptures And by this Man we learn that their Opinion yet is That the Scriptures are not our Perfect Sufficient Fixed and Ordinary Rule whereby we shall know what is our duty before God But that we must be ruled in our walk by Immediat Revelations of the Spirit as these were who wrote the Scriptures And it is their constant Opinion and if this man be of another Judgment we shall know when we come to heare what he saith of the Light within that when one cometh to hearken to the Light within he hath obtained the whole end of the Scriptures so that they become wholly Useless to him 40. What saith he then of the Scriptures He saith § 5. Pag. 45. He giveth to them a secondary place detracting nothing which they assume to themselves citeing Rom. 15 2. 2 Timoth. 3 15 16 17. A Secondary place he granteth they have but in what Will he not say as much of his own writings We grant that the Spirit by them as a mean in his hand Illuminateth Leadeth and Guideth his owne people But as to a Rule and Law we know nothing above them for they containe the Law of the Supream Lawgiver and as a Law and Rule are able to make us Wise unto salvation and Perfect unto every good work for the whole Counsel of God concerning all things necessary for his owne Glory mans Salvation Faith and Life are either expresly set downe in them or by good and necessary consequence may be de●uced from them unto which nothing at any time is to be added whether by new Revelations of the Spirit or Traditions of Men. This is our doctrine contained in our Confession of Faith Chap. 1. § 6. And this we must maintaine or say that God's works are not Perfect and so reproach our Maker and Supream Lord Governour for prescribeing Lawes which are
terminus without all respect to sin because by it persons are appointed to punishment for their sins and whatever God doth in time execute He r●solved and determined from eternity to do the same in the self same manner As for the Execution of this decree in time in reference to the denying or not giving of Faith Repentance Regeneration or G●ace to recover out of the state of sin we say this act is Absolute as h●s giving of Grace and Regeneration upon the one hand is free as the Scripture richly declareth so th● withho●ding of this Mercy Grace is an act of his Absolute Soveraignity and Free Will who hath mercy on whom he will and hardeneth whom he will As concerning the act of inflicting spiritual Iudgments the forerunners of hell this being an act of Iustice is not without respect to sin its procureing cause as the Scriptures lately cited evidence The same we say of adjudging impenitent and wicked persons unto hell for this is an act of justice conforme to the established Law of God 10. Though what we have said might suffice upon our part for clearing of the truth which we owne yet because this Quaker rageth so much against Absolute Reprobation by which he doth not meane the actual Execution of this act but the Act it self we shall in short propose somethings which will serve for confirmation of what we say And 1. There is a certane Analogy betwixt the decree of Election the decree of Reprobation so that the one giveth light unto the other the one cannot be conceived without the other for where there is an Election of some there must be a Rejection of others so the one is opposite to the other from this it is manifest that if Election be Free Absolute so must Reprobation be for the objects of both are supposed to be in the same state condition equally represented in the minde of God or considered when the act passeth upon them none deserving Election more than the rest nor none more meriting Reprobation than the rest If then Election be not upon the account of any good foreseen in the elected more than in others whether it be Faith or Obedience or Perseverance in both to the end or whatever else can be imagined as all our Divines have showne writing against the Arminians it is manifest cleare that Reprobation cannot be upon the account of the Foresight of the contrary Sin foreseen or considered in Iudas could not be a cause moving God to Reprobat him more than Peter because the same was to be seen in Peter And the Apostle cleareth confirmeth this when he saith Rom. 9 11 12 13. for the children being not yet born neither having done any good or evil it was said unto her the Elder shall serve the Younger as it is written Iacob have I loved but Esau have I hated Which place 2. Doth further confirme what we say for here is a Discrimination made one Loved the other Hated that is one Elected the other Reprobated Rejected without any consideration had of good in the one or evil in the other as a procureing cause of these Acts of Gods will for both Iacob Esau are considered as being in a like condition yet unborn neither having done either good or evil 3. The supream wheel moving all is here said to be that the purpose of God according to election might stand not of works but of him that calleth so there can be no procureing cause of this in man The one was preferred to the other that the purpose of God according to Election might stand the other consequently was made to serve that the purpose of God according to Reprobation might stand 4. Works both good evil are here in plaine termes excluded not of works there are no works excepted if Election be without foreseen works Reprobation must be so also or we must say that the Apostle argueth not acuratly that the Spirit of the Lord in the Apostle doth not cleare explaine the point 5 Vers. 17. from the instance of Pharaoh of whom it is said that God even for this same purpose had raised him up that He might sh●w his power in him c. the Apostle inferreth that God hardneth whom he will as well as from the instance of Iacob preferred to his brother Esau he inferred vers 15. 18. that he hath mercy on whom he will have mercy and that he hath compassion on whom he will have compassion 6. The Objection which the Apostle preoccupieth Vers. 19. Thou wilt say then why doth he yet find fault for who hath resisted his will doth manifestly speak the truth we plead for for if Election Reprobation were not absolute but upon foreseen works what place could this Objection have Why would the Apostle speak to an Objection that were no way pertinent Should there be any colour for any to propose this scruple if the good evil works of man were the ground of all 7. The Apostles reply confirmeth this when he sayeth Nay but O man who art thou that repliest or dispurest or it may be rendered responsats or carps against God Importing that it is high arrogance in the Clay creature to call Jehovah to its barre to judge or quarrel with or disput against God whatever he do according to the purpose of his own will But what ground were there for such a Pride-laying Man-humbling Mouth-stopping Creature-abaseing felling answere if all this matter did run upon the wheels of justice or had its rise from man or were ultimatly founded upon something in him 8. The answere added putteth the matter beyond all further dispute Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it why hast thou made me thus Hath not the potter power over the clay of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour and another unto dishonour Where we see That man is but as a lump of clay in the hands of the great Potter as there is nothing in one part of the same lump of clay calling inviteing or moving the potter to make of it a vessel unto honour or a vessel unto dishonour so is there nothing in man calling or moving God to make this man a vessel unto honour the other a vessel unto dishonour And next we see That all is ultimatly resolved into the pleasure of God as the Potters mere pleasure is the cause of the discrimination of vessels which he frameth out of the same lump 9. These words vers 22. further confirme our point for saith the Apostle what if God willing to shew his wrath and to make his power known endured with much long suffering the vessels of wrath fitted or made up for destruction c. Importing that it is so and that man hath nothing to say against it So we see That as the vessels of mercy are afore prepared unto glory so the vessels of wrath are afore prepared and
5. Ioel. 3 28. Act. 2 5 17. Exod. 28 15. Revel 13 8. 1 Tim. 4 vers 15. Act. 4 vers 16. 1 King 10 vers 23. 1 Chron. 14 17. 32 23. Esth. 9 2. Luk. 13 17. 1 Cor. 4 17. 1● 30 51. Col. 3 11. 1 Cor. 14 24. Heb. 8 11. 1 Cor. 9 19. And many moe which might be named There must therefore of necessity be limitations how else shall we expound that Rom. 11 32. to name no moe For God hath concluded them all in unbeleef that he might have mercy upon all And so we must else we shall make odde work interpret those universals according to the subject matter spoken of and the circumstances of the text with other Scriptures contributing to the cleating thereof And we are perswaded that there is nothing neither in this text nor in any other where such particles of Universality are used as to the matter about which we are now speaking to w●t concerning the Special Benefites and Saving Favours of God to men that will enforce such an interpretation as will include all without exception as our Adversaries alledge Nay or can rationally constraine us to suppose that Christ died for a Ransome for any except the Elect people ●o God 55. Nay thirdly if this be not admitted but our Adversaries will urge the full force of these particles and the like as the world and all nations they must grant that Saving grace and Salvation is also Universal for then all men without exception must be drawn to Christ Ioh. 12 32. all must savingly know God and be taught of him Ier. 31 34. Heb. 8 11. all must receive grace Ioh. 1 16. See further Esai 12 5. Revel 15 4. Psal. 72 11. 86 9. Esai 2 2. Dan. 7 14. Hag. 2 7. Gal. 3 8. Gen. 18 18. 22.18 26 4. Esa. 25 6. Deut. 28 10. Psal. 97 6. Rom. 11 26. Esa. 40 4. Psal. 29 9. 1 Cor. 12 13. 2 Cor. 3 18. Ephes. 4 13. Luk. 16 16. 1 Thes. 5 5. 1 Cor. 11 4. Psal. 65 2. 22 27. 66 0. Esa. 66 23. Mal. 1.11 Ioh. 6 33. 12 47. Esai 25 8. 1 Cor. 15 22 28. 4 5. Revel 5 13. Mark 11 31. So must they grant on the contrary that all and every mothers son are Wicked and consequ●ntly must purish for they are also held forth wit● an Universality I●r 6 ●8 ● 2 Mic. 1 21. Iob. 2 15 16. 5 19. Ioh. 17 9 25. 1. Cor. 1 21. ●sal 14 3. Rom. 3 12. And that God works all sinful actions in his people because he is said to worke all their works Esai 2● 12. 56. Fourthly it is to be observed That these large Universal particles as they are used when the Lord is to express the great things under the Gospel for no passage can be adduced pointing out an universal extent of the good things of grace un●er the Law so they only hold forth the largness of the Kingdom of Christ under the Gospel dispensation which was not to be limited to the bounds of one Nation or to the posterity of one Abraham but was to be extended to all Nations Kinreds Tongues People and Languages indefinitly without any discrimination or distinction And therefore these universals are used the more to enforce the beliefe of this truth and to give it a deeper impression for now under the Gospel Oeconomie the partition wall is taken away Ephes 2 14. and there is now neither Greek nor Iew Circumcision nor Vncircumcision Barbarian Scythian Bond nor Free but Christ is all and in all Col. 3 11. Hence the Apostle tels us that he had received grace and Apostleshipe for obedience to the faith among all nations Rom. 1 5. See also Rom. 15 9 10 11 12. So that now the promise made to Abraham that he should be heire of the world Rom. 4 13. is fulfill●d yet is not all the world universally so become his Children as that all and every individual person are take in but the Seed scattered through the world for the promise that he should be the heire of the world is through the righteousness of faith Rom. 4 13 16. in this respect was he the Father of many nations vers 17. Gen. 17 5. not of all and every individual person but of the seed in many nations And as I said these general termes are used the more to enforce this truth which the Jewes could hardly receive being so in love with themselves and acted with a deeply rooted prejudice against the Gentiles an evil that cleave long unto the Apostles themselves as is manifest by their questioning of Peter for going-in to Cornelius Act. 11. Hence we read so much of the rage of the Jewes upon this very account Act. 13 45 50. 1 Thes. 2 15 16. But when the Lord was pleased to beare-in this truth with force upon his Apostles and let them see and make known unto them the mystery of his will according to his good pleasure which he had purposed in himself that in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ Ephes. 1 9 10. And to make all men see what is the fellowshipe of the mystery which from the beginning of the world hath bin hid in God who created all things by Iesus Christ Ephes. 3 9. Then the Apostles in their writings both to refute the folly of the Jewes and to encourage the Gentiles did use such general expressions as we see and particularly the Apostle Iohn who lived to see wrath overtake the nation of the Jewes and the Gentiles in great numbers brought in but withall to prevent any mistake giveth a rule how to understand these phrases when he saith Ioh. 11 51 52. And this spake he not of himself but being High priest that year he prophecied that Iesus should die for that nation and not for that nation only but that also he should gather together in one the children of God that were scattered abroad 57. There is fiftly another thing considerable here to wit That we must distinguish betwixt the Gospel and the Administration thereof as it answereth to the secret Counsel and Purpose of God and so it is the mean by which the Lord effectuateth the purposed and designed end and as it answereth to the Revealed Will of God and is his Law In the first sense the promises in the Gospel do peculiarly belong unto are made for the Chosen ones the Elect company for whom Grace and Glory is prepared and for whom the Kingdom is appointed In the second sense they are held forth to all to whom the Gospel is preached as encouragements to the doing of that which is duty as upon the other hand the threatnings are held forth to all to move the Elect to duty and to keep them at duty though in the secret purpose of God they be appointed for the Reprobat on whom in end they shall certainly be inflicted In
body the Church Ephes. 5 23. And againe Quaest 68. Are all the Elect only effectually called Ans. All the Elect and they only are effectually called Act 13 48. Although others may be and often are outwardly called by the ministry of the word Mat. 2● 14. and have some common operations of the Spirit Mat. 7 22. 13 20 21. Heb. 9 4 5. who for their wilfull neglect and contempt of the grace offered to them being justly left in their unbeleef do never truely come to Iesus Christ Ioh. 12 38 39 40. Act 28 25 26 27. Ioh. 6 64 65. Psal. 81 11 12. 10. When the Gospel cometh to a place there is ground of hope that God hath some lost groat or other to finde out by the light thereof for it being the Gospel of Salvation and by it the Lord bringing life and immortality to light and it being the mean appointed and designed of God for this end to bring in the chosen ones there is ground to suppose that the Lord hath some elected ones in that place moe or fewer And though as to the intention of God and as it is the meanes designed of Lord whereby to effectuate the purpose he hath of saving such as he hath designed unto life it be properly sent to gather them in yet considering it as containing the revealed will of God and pointing forth duty and as it is put into the hands of men who know not the secret Counsels of God nor whose names are writen in the book of life whose not it concerneth all that hear it and all are bound in obedience to the command of the great God in the mouth of his authorized Ambassadours to believe and obey the Gospel And when obedience is not yeelded thereunto the righteous God because of the refusal of the offer and the contempt done to the grace of God in that refusal either taketh away the Gospel leaving that people in darkness and in an irremediable case by Non-churching or Excommunicating them as he threatned to do to Ephesus Revel 2 to La●dicea Rev 3 and did to the Iewes when he cut them off and hath done to several other Churches sometimes ●amous for Christianity And where he continu●th the Light of the Gospel after much contempt there being of his Elect there whom he will not want but with much long suffering for the glory of his Grace waite for he hath other spiritual judgments wherewith even in this side of Eternity he punisheth such contemptuous offenders whose life natural he may spare for a time by giving them up to hardness of heart judicially blinding them giving them up to the power of Unbeleefe and to spiritual Security and Deadness so that no preaching can pierce them no Meanes can prevaile with them no Motives can move or perswade them no Threatnings can awaken them or rouze them out of their sleep So that the Lord dealeth with them according as it is written Esai 6 9 10. Mat 13 14. Mark 4 v. 12. Luk. 8 10. Ioh. 12 40. Act. 28 26. Rom. 11 8. maketh their eyes heavy and shutteth their eyes c. or as it is written Esa. 29 10. Rom. 11.8 poureth out upon them the Spirit of a deep sleep and closeth their eyes or as it is written Psal. 81 12. giveth them up to their owne hearts lust or as it is Psal. 6● 22. maketh their table a snare or as it is 2 Thes. 2 10 11 12. giveth them up to all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish and sendeth them strong delusion that they shall believe a lie that they may be damned who beleeved not the truth or saith to them as Revel 22 11. He that is unjust let him be unjust still and he that is filthy let him be filthy still And though such judgments may be inflicted upon some that live and die under the drop of the Gospel yet it may well be said as to these on whom the Lord poureth out these judgments that the day of their Visitation and hope is at an end But yet though the consideration of this may and should make the Faithful Labourer in the work of the ministry when ready to complaine and cry out that he hath laboured in vaine and hath spent his strength for nought and in vaine Esai 49 4. lay his hand upon his mouth and adore knowing withall that his judgment is with the Lord and his work with his God ibid. and that he is unto God a sweet savour of Christ even in them that perish and to whom he is the savoure of death unto death 2 Cor. 2 15 16. Yet notwithstanding because it is not certain who are the particular persons who are thus judicially smitten of God he should minde his duty and preach the word be instant in season out of season reprove rebuke exhort with all long suffering and doctrine 2 Tim. 4 2. and be patient in meekness instructing those that oppose themselves if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth and that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil who are taken captive by him at his will 2 Tim. 2 24 25 26. And others also who are even in a more private capacity should save some with fear pulling them out of the fire Iud vers 23. Not do we hereby give allowance to any to despond or despaire who hear the Gospel for the Lord hath his own time of coming the door standeth open that whosoever will may be encouraged to come forward for Christ in no wise casteth out any that cometh Ioh. 6 37. the invitation is Free Large whosoever will let him take of the water of life freely Revel 22 17. Though with all we must say that word Heb. 6 4 5 6 7. may strick terrour into the hearts of many for it is impossible for those that were once enlightened and have tasted of the heavenly gift and were made partakers of the holy Ghost and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the world to come if they shall fall away to renew them againe unto repentance seing they crucifie to themselves the Son of God afresh and put him to an open shame for the earth which drinketh in the raine that cometh oft upon it and bringeth forth herbes meet for them by whom it is dressed receiveth blessing from God but that which beareth thorns briers is rejected is near unto cursing whose end is to be burned 11. But as concerning that possibility which this Quaker dreameth of whereby it is concluded or presupposed that every Mothers son of the Posterity of Adam have Power and Ability Moral I say moral that no man may think I speak here of the meer faculties of the soul Understanding Will to beleeve and obey the Gospel or can of themselves beleeve without the Spirit of God and his mighty operation enlightening the Understanding savingly and renewing the Will and causing by the influence
it the Spirit supposing that Paul 1 Cor 3 16. maineth every man breathing when he saith know ye not that ye are the temple of God and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you and not remembering that the Apostle Rom. 8 9. maketh this the peculiar privilege of the Saints saying But ye are not in the flesh but in the Spirit if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ he is none of his But this is a maine business it doth not a little concerne him and his cause to shew a clear difference if there be any betwixt his opinion and that of Pelagians and Socinians and yet instead of doing this he runneth out in extravagancies to bewilder his Reader telling us Pag. 87. 88. that when the principle or rational propriety exalts it self to reigne and rule in spiritual things above the seed then the seed is wounded We know that corruption and carnal reason can and doth fight and strive against the grace of God in God's people and that in others it will rise up against the Truth and authority of God in the Scriptures But to imagine such a thing as either of these in persons living in heathenisme without God and without Christ without the very report of the Gospel is to dream wakeing And to call it Antichrist riseing-up against Christ as he doth call it is but a Notional juggle to hide their blasphemies 21. He goeth on to tell us his dreams for he saith as God created the sun to give light by day and the moon by night so he hath given to men the spiritual and divine light of his Son to rule them in Spiritual things and the light of reason to rule them in Natural things c. These are but impertinent fancies for he should cleare to us here how that which he calleth the Spiritual and divine Light of Christ which is in every man differeth from Nature or the Natural Enduements which accompany the Rational soul that it may appear that he is no Pelagian nor Socinian for we grant that there is a spiritual and divine light of Christ which only can savingly make the spiritual things of God manifest to the soul but this is not common to all but peculiar to God's peculiar ones if we may believe the Scripture and in this sense it is true which he saith That reason must be illuminated with this divine light before it can rightly take up Spiritual things but that divine light is some other thing then the Light within 22. Againe He would make us beleeve that this Light in every man he talketh of is distinguished from the Natural Conscience upon this ground that the Natural Conscience can be defiled Tit. 1 15. but the light cannot for it maketh manifest all things that are to be reproved Ephes. 5 13. But how cleareth he that the light that is in every man by nature cannot be defiled The Apostle in that cited place Tit. 1 15. sayes that the Mindes and Conscience and what light is in men is there of unbeleevers are defiled And as for that light mentioned Ephes. 5 13. He will never prove that is a light common to all men especially when the next verse restricketh it to them that awake out of sleep and are arisen from the dead which cannot I suppose be said of all men get this light from Christ. Sure such as are yet asleep yea dead can have no Spiritual light And they that are yet darkness are not light in the Lord vers 8. nor can they prove what is acceptable unto the Lord vers 10. not having yet received the Spirit which is in all goodness and righteousness and truth vers 9. So that the whole scope of the place manifesteth this mans detorsion thereof The Apostle is exhorting them who sometimes were darkness but now were light in the Lord to walk as Children of light and to reprove the unfruitful works of darkness vers 8 11. shewing what is the true nature of that light whereof they are now made partakers being light in the Lord and brought out of the state of darkness viz. to discover and make manifest such unworthy actions to the end they may be shuned and thought shame of What he addeth of conscience challenging and vexing for what is not wrong according to its misinformation is nothing to the purpose now in hand unless to give a convincing argument against himself and to shew that the Light in Turks who are challenged by their misinformed and deceived consciences for drinking of wine prohibited by Mahomet is nothing different from the darkness of their blinded consciences for how will he prove that there is any spiritual light in them witnessing the contrary of what their blinded and misguided conscience saith Of the same nature and import is that which he addeth Pag. 89. of the blinded conscience of Papists challenging for eating flesh in Lent But he addeth that the light of Christ will never consent to such abominations but taketh away blindness openeth the Intellect and directeth judgment and conscience All which is very true of the true light of Christ bestowed upon beleevers and revealed in his word but is most false of his Light which is in all men naturally and common to all the Sons of Adam Heathens Turks and Cannibals as well as Christians in name and thing And while the Quakers preach up this as a sure guide to life eternal they are abominable Pelagian and Socinian deceivers who should be fled from as the most impudent and sworne enemies of the Grace of God and of His Gospel that ever appeared out of the bottomless Pit a company of pure Pagan-preachers whose doctrine is Paganisme and driveth thereunto 23. In the last place as a plaister to cover all the deformities of his opinion hithertil held forth he tels us that this light and seed is not the power and faculty of the mans soul whereof a man is master and can exercise when he will if no natural defect hinder for a man cannot stirre up when he pleaseth this Light and seed but it moveth and breatheth and contendeth with men as the Lord seeth good so that a man even though he hath some sense of his misery cannot when he will by his stirring up of this light attaine tenderness of heart but he must attend to that which at certain times cometh upon all in which it wonderfully mollifieth and warmeth the heart and worketh in the man at which time if the man resist not but joyn with it he obtaineth salvation thereby And he compareth it with the Spirits moving the waters of Bethesda not Bethsaida as he saith and addeth that God in love to all mankinde worketh so in the heart by this seed at certain singular times setting their sins in order before their eyes inviting to repentance and offering remission of sinnes and salvation which if man refuse not he may be saved
●onveyed to beleevers by this Light and it is this light that is given for a witness to the people for a leader and a commander and so this ●ight is our prophet priest and king and then we have nothing to do with that Iesus of Nazareth of whom the Gospel speaketh whom the Apostles preached Thus the whole Gospel is overturned at one blow and all the New Testament is to be looked upon as a cunningly devised fable or must all be understood allegorically as speaking of this Light within which is Gospel Bible Saviour and all to the Quakers and of no other Christ of no other Saviour and Redeemer What a fundamental and antievangelick errour this of the Quakers is no man needeth now to doubt nor fear to call them pagan Preachers 40. Faith cometh by hearing saith he and hearing by the Word of God which is placed in every mans heart to be a witness for God and à medium by which they may be brought unto God through Faith and Repentance And because mans heart is naturally hard as yron God hath put this word in it to be as a fire and as an hammer Ier. 23 29. by whose strength and vertue if it be not resisted the cold and hard heart of man is warmed and made soft and receiveth an heavenly image and impression Ans. Here is a further confirmation of the desperate designe of these Quakers to overturne the foundations of Christian Religion for 1. The word of God by which Faith is wrought in souls is not with them the word of God which is preached or the Gospel which Christ his Apostles preached but a thing in every mans heart Heathen as well as Christian which they nickname blasphemously call the word of God Did Paul preach this word which is in every mans heart Or did any of the Apostles make this their theme text Did they ever say that by this word Faith was wrought in the heart Was this the Christ crucified that Paul spoke so much of Sure faith cometh by the hearing of that word which is outwardly preached by such as are sent and whose feet are bautiful upon the mountains bringing glade tideings Rom. 10 15. Esai 52 7. Nah. 1 15. and by such as was Esaias whose report was not beleeved Rom. 10 16. Esai 53 1. Hear what Peter said Act. 15 7. Men and brethr●n Ye know how that a good while agoe God made choise among us that the Gentiles by my mouth should hear the Word of the Gospel and beleeve And what that word of the Gospel was which Peter preached to Cornelius to which passage this relateth see Act. 10 34. to 43. What meaneth Paul by the foolishness of preaching whereby such as beleeve are saved 1 Cor. 1 21. was that the preaching of a Light within Why doth he then call it the crosse vers 18. and Christ crucified vers 23 would the crying up of the light within be a stumbling block to the Jewes and foolishness to the Greeks No certainly But because the Apostles doctrine did lye so crosse hereunto neither Iewes nor Greeks could relish it except those who were the called and they indeed and they only saw Christ the power of God and the wisdome of God vers 24. What need is there that we should insist in disproving of this which overturneth the whole doctrine of the Gospel and rendereth all the administrations thereof useless and ridiculous 2. What Faith I wonder can be produced by this Light within It cannot be the Faith of God's elect for the mighty operation of the Spirit is required thereunto and as an external mean the out ward preaching of the Gospel which is called the word of Faith Rom. 10 8. and the hearing of faith Gal. 3 2. And Paul tels us Rom. 1 5. That he and others received grace and Apostleshipe for obedience to the Faith among all nations The Gospel and the preaching of Iesus Christ according to the revelation of the mystery which was keept secret since the world began but now is made manifest and by the Scriptures of ●he Prophets according to the commandement of the everlasting God made known to all nations for the obedience of faith Rom. 16 25 26. Through the Gospel did the Apostle beget the Corinthians 1 Cor. 4 15. The Thessalonians were called to the beleefe of the truth by the Gospel 2 Thes. 2 14. It must th●n be the faith of Heathens or rather the faith of Devils for they beleeve and tremble and Nature can produce no other faith but a natural faith founded upon nature which is of the same kinde with the faith of devils Is not the Quakers Religion a noble Religion which would bring us the length of Devils 3. That which is left in every man to be a witness for God is nothing but a Natural Conscience witnessing according to the Law of Nature and the dim light thereof that is not yet extinct and will this Natural Conscience produce saving faith in a heathen Sure the devil hath a conscience as an intellectual creature witnessing that there is a God and so witnessing for God Shall we call this conscience the word of God the hearing of which will produce faith Then the Quakers Gospel is a Gospel for the Devils giving them ground of hope of Faith and Repentance if they will but obey that Gospel which is preached within them 4. What a bold and manifest perversion of Scripture is it to apply that Word Ier. 23 29. which is express of the word spoken by the true and faithful Prophets of God unto this dumb preacher in every mans bosome 5 We see then that the softening and warming Spirit of God who by his power and efficacy melteth the heart is in every man by nature in every Turk Tartar Barbarian c. And whatever the Scripture speaketh of this work of the mighty Spirit of God must all be understood of this Light within every man O desperat souls O wretched errour Will not the Lords hand be seen against these impudent audacious perverters of the right wayes of the Lord 6. This fire and hammer will do wonders if it be not resisted But when fire worketh upon water and a hammer beateth upon hard yron or stone can it but meet with resistence At length we see all the operation of grace which he talketh of is the sufficient grace that Pelagians Iesuites Arminians plead for which must have no more efficacy an● power ascribed to it whatever great names it get than may salve the honour and consist with the glory of Free will which must weare the crowne and have all the praise for this grace must not entrench upon the Lordly liberty of mans will but must stand off and petition Lord Free will to consent and yeeld if it will but if not it can do no more And so it shall be of him that willeth and runneth and not of God that sheweth mercy contrare to Rom. 9 16. And it is not
the righteousness of Christ given and imputed to us because insert in Christ and we put him on The question is unto which of these we ought to lean and account our selves justified before God And I saith he wholly think that it is piously and christianly said that we ought t● leane to I say lean to as to a firme thing which may uphold us the righteousness of Christ gifted to us and not to grace and holiness inherent So also Pighius de fide Iustificatione may shame this Quaker 15. In the fourth place Pag. 128. For clearing of his meaning he tels us that by this Iustification they do not understand simply good works nay not as done by the holy Spirit But did ever man in his wits understand it so The question is whether good works be the formal cause or the formal objective reason of Justification And this he granted above and asserted with the worst of Papists But he saith with protestants that these are rather the effects of Iustification then the cause This is better said but way then said he lately that by the Second Redemption whereby we are Purified Liberated and Redeemed from t●e power of corruption we become justified formally or that that second Redemption was the formal cause of our justification And what will he now have to be the formal cause of our justification Christ formed within us this inward birth produceing righteousness and holiness in us with which the Father is well pleased Ans. But this is only an inward Principle of grace and the sanctification which is defined in the Larger Catechisme as we saw above and by this himself afterward tels us we are parkers of the divine nature and this as Contarenus said with truth belongeth to an Inherent Righteousness and so still he holds with the Tridentine Papists who will have us justified by a Righteousness inherent in us and that in opposition to a Righteousness imputed And when afterward he saith that Bellarmine and others disput against this and other Papists understood it not he should have named the place 2. That God is well pleased with this will say nothing for he is well pleased also with good works that flow from this Principle betwixt which two this Quaker would distinguish in this question He addeth This is to possess whole Christ who is the Lord our righteousness Ier 23 6. and to put on Christ. Ans. Yet this is not to put on the righteousness of Christ in Justification and to be cloathed with his Righteousness in appearing before Justice This is not to make the Lord our righteousness as Ier. 23 6. nor to say with Paul Phil 3 9. and be found in him not having min● own righteousness which is of the law but that which is through the faith of Christ the righteousness which is of God by faith Further he sayes hereby we are made one with him as branches into the vine and we have right to all things which he did and suffered for us so that his obedience righteousness and death is ours Ans. All this is true by faith uniteing us to Christ. But we are not so properly by Christ formed within us for this is a consequent of and in nature though not in time posteriour to our union to Christ by Faith which is brought about in effectual calling and as a consequent of this union followeth also Justification the formal objective reason of which is not either this union or begun san●tification but the Righteousness of Christ or his Obedience and Suffering made over and imputed to the believer by God Seing in these matters he seemeth to be an utter stranger I would advise him to read our Larger Catechisme better if he think not himself too far advanced to turne a catechumene againe What followeth Pag. 128. is but a specimen of the Quakers Spirit in abusing of Scripture with their sensless allegorick glosses and hath no Interest in this queston and therefore I have nothing to do with it 16. He tels us next that though we be not justified for good works yet we are justified in them and they are necessary as causa sine qua non Ans. That good works are called for from Justified persons we acknowledge but what Interest they have in putting us into a state of Justification we see not His giving them an interest of a causa sine qua non contradicteth what he said before for he would have us Justified by Christ formed within and this is antecedent to good works as the tree is unto the fruit And he also said in the preceeding Pag that good works follow Justification as the effects thereof and how then they can come in as a causa sine qua non he must help us by his next to understand and cleare to us how the Effect can be the causa sine qua non of the Cause But this man must have liberty to contradict himself He must also explaine to us what that is to be justified in good works That a man may be in a justified state while do●ng good works we understand very well but how otherwayes he can be justified in good works I see not unlesse by Justification he mean not a justification as to state but a justification as to particular actions which is impertinent 17. In the last place he saith that if he and his fraternity held the same opinion about good works that Protestants hold they would easily confess that they were not only not nec●ssary but that they were noxious Though Protestants assert the necessity of good works in justified persons come to age they assert notwithstanding their noxiousness in Justification that is if they be considered as any part of that Righteousness upon consideration whereof the person is declared just Justified before God or as any part of the formal Objective reason of Justification or as others speak as any part of the formal cause of Justification But what is his ground for they affirme saith he that the best works of saints are corrupted and defiled It is true we say indeed that our best works are not perfect but have ad mixture of dross and of much imperfection but that is not all the cause why we deny such an interest to works in Justification as Papists and he plead for but this Interest we deny to works mainly because it would spoile Christ of the glory of our Justification and of being our Righteousness that is due to him and give man ground of boasting which by Gospel Justification is wholly excluded But do not Quakers say the same of good works we judge saith he the best works done by man intending conformity unto the Law in his owne strength natural power and proper will to be such that is polluted But protestants do not account these properly good works but only materially such as not flowing from a principle of grace and from the Spirit of sanctification What doth he say of these These are pure and
the Law What sayes he to this Argument He grants they are not profitable unto God but yet he saith they are profitable unto us he might adde and to others too and he might say that they are useful to set forth the Glory of God and several things more might he say of this kinde but all is to no purpose as to our present question The second Objection is from Rom. 3 20 21 by the righteousness of the Law shall no flesh be justified c. But he might have cited to this end whole Chapters of that Epistle as also of the Epistle to the Galatians where the Apostle in downe right termes is disputing against the interest of works in the matter of Justification But what replyeth he He saith the Apostle excludes the works of the Law that is such as are done by mans strength and will while he studieth conformity unto the outward letter of the Law which therefore are imperfect but not the works of the Gospel done by the Spirit of grace in the heart according to the inward and Spiritual Law which are therefore pure and perfect Answer 1. This explication of Law works and Gospel works is nakedly proposed to us here without any proof and is an arrow out of Bellarmines quiver all works done by mans meer strength and will without the Grace of God and the help of the Spirit are no good works at all because not performed in the right manner nor flowing from a principle of grace 2. That Gospel works even performed by the Spirit are not pure and perfect as he with Papists say shall be seen in due time 3. The Apostle excludeth all such works which are not that Righteousness of God without the Law which was witnessed to by the Law and the Prophets nor the Righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that beleeve Rom. 3 21 22 And all such as marre justification freely by grace through the redemption that is in Jesus Christ vers 24 As also all such as darken that declaration of the righteousness of God who must be just when he is the justifier of him which beleeveth in Jesus whereof mention is made vers 25 26. And all such works as give ground of boasting which is only excluded by the Law o● Faith vers 27. And all such as are opposite to justification by faith vers 28. 4. Nay Abrahams Davids works which were done by the Spirit are excluded Rom. 4 2 3 6 7 8. He goeth about to confirme this distinction from this that Paul to the Galat. speaketh directly against such as would presse the observation of the legal Ceremonies upon the Christian Gentiles Pag. 145 146. Answ. Though that might be the occasion of Pauls disput it be true that Paul speaketh much and particularl● against the ceremonial Law yet he doth not insist upon that hypothesis or branch of the question but taketh occasion thereby to discusse the point in Thesi● of all works in general even such as are done in conformity to the moral Law therefore he adduceth Chap. 3 10 12. that passage Deut. 27 26. and Levit. 18 5. which cannot be meaned of the ceremonial Law only and speaketh against all Justification by works which is opposite to Justification by faith Chap. 3 11 12. What he saith afterward of the necessity of good works we stand to in the sense maintained by Our against Papists that is as antecedent adjuncts and dispositions unto glory not as any way meritorious either of Justification or Salvation nor do we approve of the Papists second Justification by works He urgeth againe Tit. 3 5. And thence speaketh thus all grant that such as are saved are Iustified True what more Therefore when he saith he hath saved us he saith also he hath Iustified us Ans. True yet it will not follow that all that is antecedent to Salvation is also antecedent to Justification or that all that is requisite in order to final Salvation is also requisite in order to Justification The Apostle vers 5. presupposing Justification is shewing what way the Lord bringeth about their salvation to wit by washing of regeneration and renewing of the Holy Ghost that he may clear up the first step of the work he speaks to Justification vers 7. that being Iustified by his grace c. and this grace excludeth all works for what is of grace it not of works otherwise grace is no more grace and what is of works is not of grace otherwise works are no more works Rom. 11 6 and to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace but of debt Rom. 4 4. What he saith afterward Pag. 147. of the difference betwixt works done by persons unrenewed and persons regenerated is not much to the matter in hand and tendeth clearly to disparage his own doctrine concerning the Sanctification and Salvation of Heathens And withall I see no ground to take in these last into Justification as he would have us for then as no man is sayed until all these works be ended so also shall no man be justified until he be glorified 42. The third Objection is taken from the impurity of our best works And he answereth with Bellarmine That works done by the Spirit and grace of God that is of persons regenerated are perfect Ans. His meaning must be that they do agree to the Law in all points otherwise a curse attendeth them Deut. 27 26. Gal. 3 10. And if so why did David say Psal. 143 2. and enter not into judgment with thy servant for in thy sight shall no flesh be justified And Ps. 130 3. If thou Lord should mark iniquittes O Lord who shall stand and why doth Iob say Chap. 9 15. whom if I were righteous yet would I not answere And why saith the church Esai 64 6. all our righteousneses are as filthy rags which though some cited by this man not regarding the interpretation of Bertius the Arminian think doth not immediatly prove that there is no merite in our works as not being spoken of all mankinde yet doth abundantly evidence that the penitent church considering her best wayes saw much defilement in them that might make the Lord abhorre them as filthy rags and persons in a penitent frame use to get a better sight of sin and of their wayes than others have or themselves formerly had His saying that hereby is not meant these works that Christ worketh in us but the works which we ourselves do in our owne strength Is vaine for such as are done in our owne strength cannot be called Righteousness But then sayes he it would follow that all holiness must be cast away as filthy rags So they must be cast away in the matter of Justification for we must not found our hope of acceptance with God and Justification before him on these but it will not follow that they must be laid aside in our practice and not be studied and endeavoured to God's
fountaine and giving Christ much work to speak so to wash and make them clean from their daily pollutions and defilements and have renunced the works of darkness and are now serving the Lord with singleness though with much weakness and many failings 25. In the next place Pag. 159. § 8. He cometh more directly to confirme his owne Opinion And his first argum is the old Pelagian argument formerly rejected and which is used by Volkelius the Socinian lib. 2. c. 22. viz. That the commands of Christ and the Apostles suppose it to be possible or in our power He proveth that this perfection is not only possible but necessary from several Scriptures such as Mat. 5 48. Which only proveth it our duty to endeavour after Perfection and to minde all duties even such as the corrupt pharisees thought no duties such as to love our enemies to blesse them that curse us c. vers 44 45 46 47. As for Mat. 7 21. Ioh. 13 17. 1 Cor. 7 19. they can make nothing for him unless he suppose that no man shall be saved who ever sinned And further seing he will not deny that some of these passages at least concerne the unconverted he must also grant that even they also may attaine to this Perfection As for 2 Cor. 13 11. 1 Ioh. 3 2 10. we have spoken to before And by this last we know to expound that 1 Ioh. 2 3 4 5 6. 26. His next argu is from Rom. 6 14. Which speaketh only of the dominion of sin from which we grant all beleever are delivered and if he know no difference betwixt a state of freedom from the dominion of sin and a sinless state he is ignorant of Christianity He citeth also Rom. 8 3. which is directly against him And if he look to vers 4. that the righteousness of the Law might be fulfilled in us It can make nothing for him for it is not said by us but in us that is in our nature when Christ came in the likeness of sinful flesh and fulfilled all righteousness and so answered the Law by doing as well as by suffering which righteousness consisting as well in his obedience as in his suffering is imputed to beleevers and by vertue thereof they come to have a right to the crown and to life which was lost by the breach of the Law which required full obedience and satisfaction in case of transgression and that notwithstanding of their shortcomings which are many But how then sayes he is the Gospel differenced from the Law which made nothing perfect Ans. The Law pointed out Christ to come in whom alone all was to be had and without him its ordinances made nothing perfect And the Gospel exhibiteth this Lord Jesus in whom dwelleth all fulness and who is able to save to the uttermost all that come to God through him Pag. 160. he saith That Paul proveth this through the whole 6. Chap. to the Romans Ans. The contrary is most manifest for he is encouraging beleevers to holiness and dehorting them from a continua●ce in sin which supposeth that persons may be beleevers and yet have need of such dehortations and encouragments for where this Quakers perfection taketh place all these are laid aside as utterly useless He speaketh not of sinlesness but of a living in sin vers 2. which is opposite to a being dead to sin that is freed of sins Dominion and Law-power and which is opposite to a walking in newness of life vers 4. And vers 6. he sayes though the old man was virtually and legally crucified with Christ Yet it is not actually killed that the body of sin might be destroyed in due time and then inferreth that henceforth we should not serve sin as our Master and Lord. And this he turneth into an exhortation vers 12. Let not sin reigne therefore in your mortal body that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof vers 13. neither yeeld ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin And for their encouragment tels them vers 14. For sin shall not have dominion over you he saith not for sin shall have no being in you And againe vers 16. he dehorteth them from a yeelding of themselves as servants to obey sin and vers 19. he presseth them to yeeld their members as servants to righteousness which is opposed to a becoming servants of sin vers 20. And to presse this the more he mindes them of their state to wit that now they were not the servants of sin having obeyed from the heart that forme of doctrine whereinto they were cast moulded vers 22. that they were made free from sin c. What our Quaker speaketh afterward of the way of attaining this perfection by laying aside the outward Law and looking only to the Light within we look upon as a Quakers dream And when he saith that our looking to the outward Law finding an impossibility of keeping it perfectly put us to wrest the Scriptures to seek after an imputative righteousness He but declareth the true genius and nature of that antievangelick and diabolical Spirit that acteth them And what followeth Pag. 160. is but a confirmation of what we said viz. that all the Perfection they would bring us to by hearkning to the Light within is but a paganish perfection And his great promises Pag. 161. we account delusions being resolved to goe to the Law and to the Testimony and to abide by the declaration of God's minde in his word and not to follow the Light of nature nor the hellish enlightenings of the devil who was a liar from the beginning in this great mater 27. In the last place Pag. 161. for a proof of this he adduceth some instances as did the Remonstrants in their Apologie Chap. 17. before him Such as Enoch Noah who are said to have walked with God and to be perfect Gen. 5. 6. Ans. They were Sincere and Upright and had a Perfection of parts though not of degrees and so walked with God and by all their perfection they were not justified but by faith which leadeth a man out of himself and so became heires of the righteousness which is by faith Heb. 11 5 6 7. Moreover we read of Noah's sinne As for Iob though he was a perfect and upright man yet his book declareth that he was not sinless and Elihu evinceth it yea God layeth to his charge Chap. 38 2. that he darkened counsel by words without knowledge And himself Chap. 42 2. confesseth that he uttered what he understood not things too wonderful for him which he knew not for which he abhorred himself and repented in dust and ashes vers 6. As for Zacharias and Elizabeth Augustine of old answered de gratia Christi contra Pelag. Cap. 48. that this was to be understood of their unblameable conversation in the eyes of men and the Lord accounted them such And Iustin. Matyr in Quaest. Resp. orthodox Quaest. 141. distinguisheth betwixt
comp with Ioh. 7 38 39. 2. It is affirmed that he is in them and abideth in them Psal. 51 11. Rom. 8 9 11 15. 1 Cor. 2 12. Gal. 4 6. 1 Tim. 3 14. 1 Ioh. 2 27. Rom. 5 5. 3. He Sealeth them unto the day of redemption Ephes. 1 23. 4 30. 2 Cor. 1 21. 4. He is a Spirit of Adoption Rom. 8 15. Gal. 4 5 6. 10. Fourthly If we consider the Covenant of Redemption betwixt Iehovah and the Lord Mediator this will be abundantly evinced For 1. The Father hath given a number to Christ to save Ioh. 17 2 9 11 12. 6 37 39. And Christ hath undertaken to save them Ioh. 6 37 39 40. 2. The Father hath undertaken that Christ shall see his seed Esa. 53 10. and see of the travel of his soul be satisfied Esa. 53 11. Psal. 72 8. 3. Christ had a commission to goe about this work to bring many sones unto glory was qualified for this end Esai 61 1 2 3. Esa. 42 6 7. 49 9. Heb. 2 10. 4. The Fath●r hath promised to give Christ what he asketh Psal. 2 8. 89 2● 27 28. 5. Yea He hath sworne that he shall have an issue Psal. 89 35 36. Act. 2 30 31. Psal 132 11 12. 2 Sam. 7 12. 1 King 8 25. Luk. 1 61. 11. Fiftly The consideration of the nature of the Covenant of Grace will con●●rme this for that is an everlasting and unchangable Covenant and ha●h the promise of Perseverance in its bosome Gen. 17 vers 7. Ier. 31 vers 31 32 33. 32 vers 38 ●9 40. Ezech 11 17 18 19 20. Hos 2 19 23. Ioh 6 54 56. Esai 54 10. 12. Sixtly The Grace infused in souls according to the Covenant of grace is of an enduring nature especially considering how it is Watered Preser●ed and Cared for It is a remaining seed 1 Ioh. 3 9. sowne in good ground Luk. 8.15 by the rivers of water Psal. 1 3. And watered every moment Esai 27.3 See Ioh. 4 14. 7 38. And so is differenced from Gifts and Common graces and from temporary Faith and grace that evanisheth in the day of tryal 1 Ioh. 2 19. Luk. 8 18. Ioh 2 23 24. Mat 13 21. Ioh. 17 9. what this true faith is see Tit. 1 1. 1 Tim. 1 5 Gal. 5 6. 2 Pet. 1 1. 13 Seventhly The consideration of the hurt and dammage that the Asserting of the Apo●tasie of the Saints bringeth necessar●ly with it unto Christians may have its owne weight here For 1 Then they could not in faith and confidence pray for it for what is purely in the power of mans Free will and is not the sole work of God and of his grace we cannot we need not pray for contrare to Ioh. 14 13 14. Ephes. 3 17 18. 1 Thes. 5 23 ●4 and the Lords prayer teacheth us to pray that his Name be hallowed that his Kingdom come and that his Will be done in earth as in heaven 2. This would destroy their Hope and Confidence in God for preservation in the times of tryal and temptation contrare to Rom. 8 vers 35 38 39. 3. This would take away their joy of the holy Ghost an● Consolation and give ground of continual Anxiety Doubts Feares c. 14. Eightly The consideration of the blow that this doctrine would give unto many articles of our Faith and undoubted truths of our Religion may confirme us against it As 1 It would render the Obedience and Sufferings of Christ null and useless for he should then suffer and die and no man might be saved or healed by his stripes and death 2. It would also render his Resurrection Ascension and Sitting at the Fathers right hand ineffectual For notwithstanding thereof no man might be saved 3. It destroyeth his Death as the Death of a Cautioner for no man can be said to have died with him risen with him and to sit with him in heavenly places contrary to Rom. 6 3 4 5 8. Eph. 2 5 6. Col. 3 1. nor can he be said to prepare mansions for an● contrare to Ioh. 14 2 3. 4. It maketh the grand promise of the Spirit null of no effect 5. It taketh away the Catholick Church that shall certainly come to mount Zion and to the innumerable company of angels c. Heb. 12 22 23 24. 6. It would null that Christian Communion and sweet Fellowship of Saints 7. It would make Remission of sins of little comfort 8. And take away the faith of Life Everlasting 15. Having premised these things for clearing and confirming of the truth we come to examine what he sayes against it Pag. 167. § 2. He reasoneth from Iud vers 4. and supposeth that these that turned the grace of God into lasciviousness had once grace not knowing that this was not grace inherent or the true grace of God placed and planted in the soul and wrought there by the Spirit of grace but external grace held forth in the Gospel offer even that grace that shou●d have taught them to deny ungodliness and worldly lusts and to have lived soberly righteously and godly in this present world Tit. 2 12. It is that grace which is outwardly spoken and preached Act. 14 3. Ephes. 3 2. 1 Pet. 4 10. Next He reasoneth from 1 Tim. 1 19. supposing that that faith which some made shipewrak of was true and saving faith contrare to 2 Tim. ● 17. 4 14. while as it was nothing but the doctrine of faith as the word also is taken 1 Tim. 3 9. 4 1. Gal. 1 23. 3 2 5 23 25. Act. 6 7. Rom. 1 5 8. In the third place he reasoneth from Heb. 6 4 5. Not so much as noticeing that the words are but Conditional and not Absolute if they fall away And that there is nothing here no not one expression that is necessarily to be understood of true and sa●ing grace and not of meer gifts and common graces given in a more than ordinary measure no one expression here of Regeneration of true Sanctification of Closeing with Christ of their being Justified or Adopted or Elected c. Nay the Apostle compareth them to ground upon which the raine falleth and yet beareth nothing but thornes and briars vers 8. distinguisheth them from those to whom he wrote of whom he expected better thing● that accompany salvation vers 9. and from true beleevers vers 10 11 12 13 14 17 18 19. When our Quaker out of his friends the Socinians Arminians shall say any thing to prove that these expressions import true and saving grace we may then think it time to sp●ak more of this but seing he is pleased to give us no more here but his naked assertion we have said enough and so proceed 16. The next thing he alleigeth against this truth is a supposition that he hath undermined the ground thereof viz. Election But how superficially this was attempted we have seen But he sayes
be common to all of what use can a special Office be for this work And what necessity were there for a call authorizing some to the doing of the work of that Office Eightly That Officers and Church members as such are different and to be distinguished so that all Church members are not Church Officers This is clear from the preceeding Ninthly That a Call differeth from Gifts and Qualifications for a call to an office if it be right such as God will approve who sendeth not a message by the hand of a fool doth presuppose that the person called is fitted qualified and that this qualification was not a sufficient ground for him to take upon him the office or to performe the proper work of the office for if his qualification had sufficiently warranted him for the office for the work the call had been useless wholly superfluous when then our Quaker speaketh of a Call he must mean a proper real and formal call not a false imaginary supposed one nay nor yet what may be said to be a virtual call Tenthly When he speaks thus of a Call to the Office of a Pastor or Doctor he must needs suppose that there are real and sure Rules Grounds and Evidences of a lawful call laid down in the word Whereby a true call may be distinguished from a false supposititious call that the solution of this question what is a right and what is a wrong call doth not depend upon our imaginations and phancies but must be had in the word And therefore if he would describe or lay forth unto us what is a right call unto the office of a Pastor in the Church he must not think it enough to tell us his dreames and suppositions but he must give us grounds from the word whereupon we must rest That by the question which he here moveth he must presuppose all these Ten particulars as unquestionable truths is from what is said I judge most clear and if so how he shall in several of these agree with other Quakers I leave it with himself to judge and how as to some of them at least he shall agree with himself in what followeth we may have occasion to remarke as we go on 4. When he speaketh of a Call to a Ministerial Office we may observe that he is very indistinct confused holding himself in the general that he may the more easily inveigle his Reader and leave the matter still in the dark He cannot but know that our Divines make mention of several sorts of calling to the Ministrie not to mention that which commonly in our language goeth for a call and is performed by the people inviteing makeing choise of and submitting to the Ministerie of such or such a person which is more prop●rly called Election and is contradistinct from that which is called Ordination but to speak to that which is otherwise called mission or missio potestativa that is that which formally impowereth the person called to performe the Work belonging to that Office and legally authorizeth him thereunto for Paul Gal. 1 1. saying of himself that he was an Apostle not of m●n nor by man but by Iesus Christ God the Father giveth ground to distinguish of calls not to mention that which is imported by the first expression of men which is commonly taken for an unlawful call that is meerly of man of themselves or others such as the false Prophets had of old and the false Apostles in the primitive times to wit That there is one call Immediat by God and Christ without the interveening of Man There is another Mediat which though also of God yet it is by the Intervention of some deed of man so is said to be by man The first is attributed unto the Apostles and some others whom Christ immediatly sent forth adjoyning that call of Matthias Act. 1. which as to the person on whom the lot fell was immediatly from God The other unto other Church officers appointed to their office by them so forth in succeding generations according to the way method set down in the word The Mediat call is that which we are now to enquire after to look for seing the Immediat call is ceased with these extraordinary persons who were called by it were with alendued with extraordinary gifts as we see Mat. 10 1. 2 Cor. 12 12. or had some other extraordinary thing in their mission which did abundantly evince it to be immediatly divine We may note further That there is a Mediat call which may be called Singular Rare or not very ordinary as when a Church is in erecting not yet constituted all things are out of order so that through necessity many or several things requisite in an orderly call must be passed by dispensed with And there is a Mediat call which is Ordinary is usually to be followed according to the rules set downe in the word Againe it may be noted that there is an Outward call an Inward call The Outward call or mission is that which is done by men according to the appointment of Christ after examination tryal of the person separating him setting him apart with solemne prayer imposition of hands for the ministrie that is a committing of the work unto faithful men an appointing of them to the work of the ministrie The Inward call is the Lords signification of his minde will inwardly to the mans self of his calling appointing him to the Ministrie not only endueing him with gifts qualifications requisite but also powerfully sweetly inclineing his minde determining his will to a willing susception of this Imployment for holy pure ends by other passages of his providence manifestly signifying that to be his minde that the man shall serve him in the work of the Ministrie These considerations are considerable in this case others might be mentioned but our Quaker loving confusion walketh in the dark and tels us not what call he meaneth Nor whether he meaneth all sorts of calling or only one kind and if one he tels us not what that one is 5. Let us see if his answere will help us to understand the question His answere is this He ought to be instructed by the inward power and vertue of the Spirit of God in his heart A suteable answere for such a question that is a confused answere to an indistinct question He should have told us what is the nature of a Pastors Call his answere is concerning a qualification Afterward he speaketh of qualifications how I pray shall he difference this from what he handleth there Next I would enquire concerning the meaning of this answere whether he thinketh that all who are instructed thus are called to be Pastors or only that this is a qualification requisite in Pastors if the first be his meaning he destroyeth the distinction betwixt Officers and Church
22. And the practice of the Church thereafter evinceth that this course was constantly followed and though through corruption base and unworthy men entered sometimes into the Ministrie yea and though afterward the Ordinance was corrupted through Antichrist by his manifold additions and other corrupt appendices yet the Ordinance of Christ is not to be rejected but rather to be purged from these corruptions annexed without Scripture warrand that the ordinance may be observed and preserved in its primitive Integrity And though by reason of such corruptions there was an interruption of the conveyance of the ministerial power in the order and manner appointed by Christ yet the Ordinance might be taken up againe and some usual circumstances dispensed with in such a case of necessity without the least impeachment of the Ordinance it self We need not then trouble ourselves to enquire after such an uninterrupted succession of Persons so ordained one after another if we finde ministers now setled according to the Ordinance of Christ we are to be satisfied But the thing that troubles him is that we say such as are ordained by Pastors according to the rule of the word are Pastors and to be owned as such Nor will it satisfie him that we say that beside this such as are called must have an inward call also of God inclineing them to that work as we formerly hinted because as he thinks there is no enquiry made after this and yet if he would look our directory for ordination he might finde as much as might satisfie a reasonable man concerning this which is not obvious to mens tryal and examination but is hid in the heart As to what he saith § 9. and 10. because it concerneth them who plead for the necessity of an uninterrupted Succession which I see no necessity for I need not trouble my self to Answere though I see nothing said by him which is of any force and elsewhere I have said something to it See my book against Velthusius Assert 9. towards the end and I shall recommend to this Man the serious perusal of Voetii Desperata Causa Papatus 12. He cometh § 11. Pag. 187. to speak to Others who lay not so much weight upon this Succession as conveyed through Papacy but assert that in extraordinary cases of necessity somethings may be done which ought not to be done in other ordinary cases when the Church is setled and rightly constituted or purged from destroying corruptions And what sayes he here Forsooth to vindicate himself and his fraternity for taking upon them the Ministrie at their owne hand he hath the face to say that he can accuse us of many errours And what will his bold saying so do when we have evinced that Quakerisme is but a Cento an Hotch potch of errours so that they are become the very Kennel in which all the filth of other errours and heresies run are become one standing puddle of abomination And as to their being Ministers what I pray have they to show but what the false Prophets and Apostles did pretend unto He talketh of an Immediat Revelation but who seeth that but themselves who have the false light of an ignis fatuus to enlighten them Shall we think that the Immediat Revelation of the Spirit of God would act men as they are acted and prompt them to at rampling upon all the holy Ordinances of Jesus Christ The Comforter whom Christ promises to send will guide into all truth Ioh. 16 13. and not sure into all errour and will glorify Christ vers 14. while as the evil Spirit in these Quakers cannot do more than he doth to vilify Christ and render him most contemptible in his Person Offices Work Ordinances He tels us that this immediate revelation of the Spirit is as necessary in a Church constituted as in a Church to be constitute But what meaneth he by this Immediat Revelation Meaneth he nothing else than what is necessary to all true Christians and is acknowledged by us that is the inward working of the Spirit sanctifying the soul No sure it is plaine Enthusiasme of which we spoke enough above Chap. III. And who saith or how will he evince it that our first reformers were called to the work of the ministrie by such an Euthusiastick Call as were the Prophets of old or such an immediat outward call with an audible voice from Christ as the Apostles had I deny that any such thing is necessary or to be expected even in extraordinary cases seing the Lord can in a more plaine and obvious manner give intimations of his will then by Enthusiasmes or audible voices such as Paul had which he would not have us now look for having the Canon of the Scriptures now compleat before us to regulate us in all cases Ordinary and Extraordinary and having the constant significations of God's will in his providence to help us to understand his minde in particulars conforme to the general rules in his word And by these we may learne what is to be done or not done in this or that case without Dreames or Vive Voices from heaven or Enthusiasmes which whosoever would expect might fear that God because of their tempting of him might give the great Tempter leave to deceive them as experience hath proven 13. As to that which some say That such as boast of an Immediat Call should confirme the same by Miracles He answereth Pag. 181. That as this was Objected by the Papists unto our first reformers so their answere may suffice to wit That was not necessary for them seing they preached nothing but the doctrine that was already confirmed by miracles And beside Iohn the Baptist and some true Prophets did no miracles Answere Though I do not owne the Objection as it is here simply set downe Yet take it thus and it will prove too hote for his fingers They who have had immediate cals from God were able to give evidence of the same by miracles or some other evident testimony of the Spirit that it was so which to contradict or not to receive and beleeve had been iniquity and utterly unreasonable Now what can these Quakers shew to justifie their Immediat Call to be of God They alleidge an Immediate Call but who can see any grounds to beleeve it Their saying so is not enough for false Prophets said it Their doctrine can not evince it for if their call be to be judged by their doctrine I know no heretick that ever breathed that had not better ground upon this account to pretend to an Immediat Call for I defye any man to name me any Seck of hereticks or erroneous persons since Christianity was heard of that maintained such a bundle of Errours and Heresies as these Quakers do to speak nothing of their blasphemous expressions and practices let any but read the examinations of Iames Nayler and his carriage about Bristol and their dayly expressions in their books and judge But to wave these let us consider but
this mans doctrine who seemeth to be one of the most sober among them all have we found any thing hithertil but Pelagianisme Secinianisme Arminianisme Enthusiasme Antiscripturisme Yea and Paganisme c have we seen any thing that doth not directly enough tend to overthrow the whole Gospel And what further we are to hear a little patience will help us to see He talks that they teach no new doctrine But doctrine more diametrically opposite yea contradictory to the whole Gospel of the grace of God a man shall finde no where else in such an heape So that albeit they should pretend to Miracles as they do to Immediat Revelations of the Spirit of God should do somethings more then ordinary like wonders I should account them but lying wonders their coming to be after the working of Satan according to 2 Thes. 2 3. Yea though an angel from heaven should come to head them and preach the doctrine which they preach I should remember that word of Paul's Gal. 1 vers 8 9. And therefore must account these Quakers no more Christians but an Antichristian Antievangelick brood of men acted and led by an evil Spirit designing the destruction of the Gospel and the setting up of Paganisme What he saith § 13. about the Independants and their gifted Brethren is not worth the noticeing for as to the matter he referreth us to what he had said before upon the Scriptures and we have e●amined Chap. IV. Only I would enquire If as he saith no man can know by the Scriptures that he in particular is called to be a Minister and therefore must recurre to an Inward and Immediat Testimony of the Spirit he must also say that no man can know that another is a Minister but by the Inward and Immediat Testimony of the Spirit and therefore he cannot be offended at us that we do not beleeve that he and the rest of the Quakers are sent of God because we have no Inward and Immediat Testimony of the Spirit concerning this and we are confident never shall have from the Spirit of God And though the Scriptures do not particularly and expresly tell us that Robert Barclay is a false Teacher and ought to be shuned as a false Teacher it saith that which is enough to us concerning him and his complices when it saith that all that bring another Gospel are to be accounted accursed and the whole Scripture that pointeth forth and declareth the Truth and condemneth their Errours as we have seen and shall see is as good to us as an Immediat Testimony saying the Quakers and particularly Robert Barclay are deceivers yea better more sure for some men can take the dreams of their owne head the impressions of Satan upon their phantasie for immediat testimonies of the Spirit of God but enough of this above Chap. III. 15. But he hath something Pag. 190. § 14. that would seem to answere that question we just now proposed for after hee hath againe nakedly told us that this extraordinary call for he nameth it so here is as well necessary when the Church is setled as when it is under a general Apostacy he saith that such as are thus called are made manifest in the mindes of their brethren and their call is verified in them who by the sensation of that life and virtue that floweth out by them are d●yly edified in their most holy faith and become the signes of their Apostleshipe according to 2 Cor. 13 v. 3. Ans. 1. But as yet there is no Inward Testimony of the Spirit directly saying that such men are truely called and without this in his judgment they cannot be said to be taught and led of the Spirit nor can they beleeve without this 2. Is this manifestation alwayes at every discourse or sometimes only Is it upon all their hearts or upon some only It may be there lyeth an answere in these words their brethren But the signes of the Apostleshipe of Paul were among strangers whom he converted and brought in to the faith And if this manifestation be alwayes and upon all present he layeth down a ground to question Christs Apostleshipe and Call for his preaching had not alwayes this effect as is notoure Nor Pauls and Barnabas theirs among the Jewes as the book of the Acts sheweth and 2 Thes. 2. Nay let that word be considered 2 Cor. 2 15 16. for we are unto God a sweet savour in Christ in them that are saved and in them that perish to the one the savour of death unto death and to the other the savour of life unto life And that Esai 49 4. Then said I I have laboured in vaine I have spent my strength for nought and in vaine surely my judgment is with the Lord and my work with my God and that Esai 53 Who hath believed our report And to whom is the arme of the Lord revealed if he think it enough that this manifestation be made sometimes upon the the mindes of some Alas Poor man thinks he that there are none of all the servants of Christ who dar not be so bold as he is to pretend a Divine Immediat Call through an Extraordinary and Immediat Revelation that can say the same and that upon a more just account As for his brethren they are under the same delusion with their Teachers and the sensation they have of life and vertue is but the sensation of the workings of delusion and no edification or building up in the holy faith but in opposition to that faith which was once delivered to the saints as is manifest to all that heare them and read their books and as this book which is now under examination hath made more manifest to me than all that ever I heard or read of them before 15. He addeth This is that which giveth the true and substantial call and title unto the Minister whereby he is a real successour of the vertue and power that was in the Apostles Ans. 1. Then the extraordinary call was no true and substantial call or title Then Ezechiel who was sent to a rebellious house that would not heare had no true and substantial call nor Moses when he was sent unto Pharaoh 2. They who are a savour of death unto death to some may yet for all that be successours to the Apostles 3. But I see what this man would be at The Quaker-Preachers though as we have manifested above nothing in truth but Pagan preachers must be the only successours of the Apostles and Possessours of the power and vertue that was in them What more Such Ministers stand not in need of the ceremony of Ordination and Imposition of hands Ans. Why then were hands laid upon Paul Barnabas Act. 13 3. And why had Timothy the laying on of the hands of the Presbytery 1 Tim. 4 14. If such made use of this ceremony shall any Minister now a dayes think it below him to do the like But sayes he Our adversaries
we have plaine dealing and a full discovery made of the principles and practices of these men and a demonstration given of the Opposition of that Spirit which is in them unto the whole Ordinance and Work of the Ministry appointed by Christ. And for Answere a few things may serve 1. Was the primitive Church Instituted and gathered by Christ and his Apostles a Church of Christ and gathered by God or not He dar not say not Then I ask how came it to passe that this way of their was not Universally and Constantly practized Was not the Spirit of God Governour and Ruler in their Assemblies He dar not deny it How then dar he speak thus 2. Were there no distinct Officers particular individual Persons separated and set apart for the work of the Ministrie in the dayes of the Apostles If there were it is manifest that their Order and Way is Diametrically opposite to the Order and Way used in the Apostolick Church If there were not what were the Apostles What were the Evangelists What were the other Ordinary inferiour Officers ordained and setled in the Churches Act. 6 v. 1 2 3 4 5 6. 14 v. 23. 1 Cor. 12 v. 28 29 30. Ephes. 4 v. 11. Phil. 1 ver 1. 4 3. 2 v. 25. Col. 4 vers 7 12 17. 1 Thes. 5 12 13 14. 1 Tim. 3 1 15. 4 v. 14 15 16. 5 v. 17 22. 2 Tom 2 2. 4 1 2. Tit. 1 5 9 Heb. 13 v. 7 17. Iam. 5 v. 14. 1 Pet. 5 4. Revel 1 20 2 3. 3. This destroyeth the whole Order of the Ministrie for hereby it is declared that there is no such thing as Officers established in the house of God distinct from other Church-members contrare to the places already cited to Rom. 12 6 7 8. 1 Cor. 12. thoughout Act. 15 4 6. 21 18. 2 Cor. 5 18 19. The contrary whereof is further evinced from the Titles Stiles or Peculiar Designations which we finde given to peculiar persons set over others in the ●ew Testament such as Pastors Ephes. 4 11. 1 Pet. 5 20. Act 20 28. Doctors 1 Cor. 12 28. Ephes. 4 11. Teachers Gal. 6 6. Stewards 1 Cor. 4 1 Tit. 1 7. Preachers Rom. 10.14 Overseers Act. 20 18. 1 Pet. 4 15. 5 2. Angels Revel 1 20. 2 1 8 12 18. 3 1 10 15. Stars Rev. 1 18. Ambassadours 2 Cor. 5 19 20. Such as are set over others Heb. 13 17. Rulers 1 Cor. 12 28. 1 Tim. 5 17. As also from the special Work imposed upon them called for from their hands not only included in the forementioned Titles the like but expresly mentioned such as Preaching of the Gospel Administration of Sacraments Care of the Poor exercise of Disciple c. As is clear from Mat. 28 19. 1 Cor 9 16.17 10 16. Rom. 12 6 7 8. 2 Cor 12.15 1 Tim. 4 13 14 15 16. 3 5. 2 Tim. 2 25. 4 2. Act. 6 2 4. Likewise from the duties required of others in reference to them See 1 Thes. 5 12. Gal. 6 6. 1 Tim. 5 17. Heb. 13 7 17. And from the Qualifications required in them 1 Tim. 3 2. 2 Tim. 2 2 6. Tit. 1 ● And Orders given about their Trial Ordination Act. 6. 1 Tim. 3 10. 5 11 12. Moreover this is evinced from the special Commands and Injunctions laid upon them to minde their work aright 1 Tim. 3 5. 1 Pet. 5 2 3. 1 Tim. 4 14 15 16. Act. 6 2 4. 2 Tim. 4 2. 2 25. 1 Cor 9 16 17 2 Cor. 12 15. Heb. 13 17. To which may be added the Promises of God's presence and assistance in the discharge of this work Mat. 28 20. Revel 1 1. and his Approbation of them in it Mat. 16.19 Ioh. 20.23 Mat. 10 40. Luk. 10 16. Ioh. 13.20 1 Thes. 4 8. 4. Hereby the work which God hath peculiarly committed to these Officers is made common And thus this man joyneth himself to the Socinians in this for upon this ground they go inveighing against a special Call which Officers ought to have See Hoornb Socinian conf lib. 2. c. 4. Sect. 3. Where their words are adduced confuted Nay this Quaker doth outstripe the Socinians for he will have every man according as his owne spirit falsly called the Spirit of God moveth him setting to this work while as they seem to be more for some Order for orders sake will allow something like a Call from the people or others though they look not upon this as a divine Institution But that the Lord hath restricted this work in ordinary unto the peculiar Officers is not only manifest from their Institution their call thereunto already cleared but also from expresse Prohibition of any such Encroachment Rom. 12 3 6 7 8. 1 Cor. 12. throughout 1 Cor. 7 20. 1 Thes. 4 11. from the Titles mentioned which not being common shew that the work thereby imported is not to be made common Qualifications not common shew that the work is special not common so also the Duties required of the rest in reference to these Officers aboundantly show that all are not promiscuously called to the work because it is upon the account of the work that these duties are to be performed unto them This I have aboundantly elsewhere spoken to in my book against Velchusius Assert 7. Pag. 67. c. and need say no more to it here 5. We no where read of men separated to the Ministrie and Ordained for one particular Act at one season but for a constant and continued Exercise in the work of the Ministry Act. 6. 14 23. Act. 20 28. 1 Cor. 12 28. Tit. 1 5. so that their ordained Teachers are not of God 6. These Preachers of theirs take upon them to be Officers without previous Tryal Examination contrare to the order established in Christ's house 7. Though we acknowledge a distinction betwixt the Officers appointed in the house of God and Others over whom they are set yet we owne not these Popish denominations of Clergy Laicks as he cannot but know though malice prompteth him to speak thus 8. That God is free to call whom he will we know but he hath told us by his Servant Paul that he will not call women to this publick Ministery and seing he ha●h appointed an ordinary and setled way whereby persons are to enter unto this work we have no warrant to think that such as come not in by the door that he hath set open but creep in at windowes or such like unlawful wayes are called of the Lord but do rather run unsent in contempt of God his established Order 9. we think it no wonder that their Brethren who are under the power of that same delusion receive such hearken to them and honoure them and so it is rather a confirmation of their delusion then an argument evinceing the lawfulness of
of God when moved to the work and were to be obeyed and subjected unto as such according to these places of Scripture now cited Why doth he not show us wherein this peculiarity consisteth Whether is it in some thing inward or in something outward if inward what can it be more than Gods calling and ordaining if outward Is it imposition of hands of the Presbytery or a potestative mission by Church Officers 3. But he sayes They are more fitted and fournished than others True yet this is not before the call but after it and a consequence of the call for he sayes and therefore they are more fitted to wit because peculiarly called and wherein this peculiar call consists I would know 4. He tels us also that their work is more constantly and particularly to instruct c. But can they instruct at any time without a special motion of the Spirit if they can why doth he inveigh against our Officers for doing the same If they cannot how can this be said to be more their work than it is the work of others who do the same upon the like motion or doth their special Call consist in their receiving more frequent motion than others But this speaks only of more work but nothing of a distinct Office So that all this concession of his is just nothing 5. I would know if these specially called persons be wholly separated for that work and that statedly and fixedly so as they are in all time coming looked upon regarded and submitted unto as officers over others and how this work of separating of them is done Beside these he tels us also of Elders who albeit they be not frequently called to declare themselves in words by this I suppose he meaneth their way of preaching yet having had experience of the work of truth on their hearts they watch over and privatly instruct the younger Ans. But yet if the Spirit move them they may they must do this in Publick too 2. we heard before that this experience or something like was all that he gave us for a call to the highest imployment 3. whatever these Elders be they are not the Scripture Elders for these are apponted for Government or Ruleing the Church hence called Governments 1 Cor. 12 29 and said to Rule 1 Tim. 4 17. Rom. 12 8. 4. He confoundeth these Elders with deacons telling us that they care for the poor widowes orphanes Nay more he sayes they take care that peace unity concord and love and health be preserved in the Church But what way is this done And how are they called hereunto And whether doth all this declare them to be distinct Officers or not and over the people or not And whether is this their peculiar work that others of the common people may not meddle with Let him answere these and reconcile himself with himself when he is at leasure 14. But Pag. 208. he tels us that they refuse that distinction of laicks and cleargy And knoweth he not that we disapprove these termes But the thing that they refuse is That none as he speaketh should be admitted to the work of the Ministrie but who are educated in schooles and instructed in logick c. and he who is thus educated must not learne another honest tread for his leaving But why doth it offend them that men take paines to be instructed and qualified for the work and that none be admitted but such as are qualified It seemeth that the work of the Ministrie is a light business with them may be discharged by such as have no learning or qualifications but why then did the Lord qualifie his Apostles by teaching them several yeers and by extraordinary infusion of knowledge It seemeth they would have all waiting for such miracles now but we must first see a warrand and seing experience tels us that the Lord doth not take this way now why are they offended that we use ordinary meanes for attaining to knowledge 2. He may know if he will that we exclude none from the Ministrie if they be qualified though they have not learned their philosophy c. at ordinary schooles 3. As for their learning of an honest trade we finde none of the Apostles doing so after they were called to that work and we look upon the work of the Ministrie as such as will take up the whole man and his whole time if he be faithful and diligent And yet some men have learned physick after they have been Ministers that they might be helpful to the poor and no man condemneth this providing that thereby they take not occasion to neglect the Ministrie which is of greater consequence 15. But hereby sayes he it cometh to passe that Parents seeing what honour and gaine attendeth the Ministrie assigne their children to that office from their Infancy and educat them thereunto of purpose c. That Parents dedicat their children to the service of God cannot be condemned if they do it upon a corrupt designe and as moved by the corrupt ends that is but their owne fault Those sayes he being educated in pleasure and idleness think it below them afterward to work with their hands satisfying themselves to bring out of books what they may Preach Ans. Who ever think serious study an easie work is not acquanted with it And if a Minister think he hath time enough to follow an ordinary calling he knoweth neither the weight nor the worth of the Ministrie He that must bring all his preaching alwayes out of books must either preach seldome or he will finde little time to follow another trade But all these things and what he saith further of corruption in admitting corrupt and carnal men into the Ministrie is nothing to the purpose in hand for no sober man will approve such corruptions And yet we need not run away to the Quakers way of prizing extemporary non sensical discourses after self motions and self impulses as the whole work of the Ministrie But sayes he next Pag. 209. when men are not admitted to the Ministrie that are not so and so licentiat according to their rules the Spirit is exstinguished and prophecies are despised contrare to 1 Thes. 5 19 20. Ans. What Papists do in this I regard not Protestants will I suppose not refuse to admit any man to the Ministrie that is found after tryal really qualified upon any such account howbeit the places by him cited be ill applied but we must not stand upon every punctilio but shall go on CHAP. XX. Of Woman Preachers 1. OUr Quakers that in all things they may be like themselves that is opposite to all the Appointments and Ordinances of Christ in his house plead for Women speaking or preaching in the publick assemblies of the Church as did the Anabaptists of old and Famalists And that notwithstanding Paul hath in two distinct places expresly prohibited the same as first 1 Cor 14 34. Let your women keep silence in the Churches we might
entered within himself with the rest he is no sooner entered then that power if it be a little raised in the meeting layeth hold upon him and begetteth in him the sense of this vertue to the softning and warming of his heart just as fire will warme a man and burne combustible mater that is neare Answ. Here is a further confirmation of the power of that deluding Spirit that acteth in their meetings But how is it known that that person was not entred within himself Doth this Introversion cause such an alteration on the body that all on lookers may see it Why might not this Power if it were indeed a divine power work this effect howbeit it were not as yet alittle raised in the meeting What are the consequences of this softning and warming of heart Are they only a confirmation of them in their errours and delusions We see no ground then to think that all this is of the Spirit of God And it is known how easy it is for the Devil to play the Ape and transforme himself as to the manner of his operations into an Angel of Light that he may deceive poor souls that foolishly give up themselves to be led and acted by him All which is sufficiently confirmed by what he addeth yea sayes he if it happen that many of these that are assembled wander in their mindes and be turned out from the measure of grace and wander in their imaginations one in whom the life is raised shall feel labour for the rest by co-suffering with the seed that is oppressed in them and if he abide attending upon the Light and persisting in the divine work the Lord oft times heareth that secret labour and the secret breathings of his owne seed by such an one so that the rest may finde themselve secretly pricked albeit there be no words spoken and hereby that one is as a midwife unto the rest to produce life in them by the secret labour of his owne soul Who seeth not hereby the strength and power of Satan working in the souls and imaginations of Men given up to strong delusion Who ever heard of such Operations among men not under the power of the Devil The midwife here must have the child-birth paines Nay more he telleth us Th●t if all the meeting be introverted into the life pardon these termes for they are his owne as near as I can translate them an uncouth Religion must be set forth to us in uncouth and unintelligible termes which the Spirit of God never taught us and the life be a little raised though not one word be spoken but all be silent yet a stranger come to gaze it may be or to mock is so terrified that he cannot resist but the power of darkness is depressed by this power and vertue which if his day of visitation be not gone will penetrate into the measure of grace within him and raise it up to the redeeming of his soul. That is maketh him convert after their manner viz. without the Spirit of God infuseing the seed and habite of grace and turning him from darkness to light by a new creation But whence can this wonderful change come It is when and not before the whole meeting is introverted and all of them are now formally under the terrible Power and Movings of the Devil which causeth such a change on their countenances and such shakeings in their bodies as we shall heare that on-lookers cannot but be affrighted and the Lord may in his righteous judgment for a further judicial upgiving of them unto a reprobate minde and for a punishment of such as out of a sinful curiosity and without a call did cast themselves within the reach of a rageing Devil suffer some such curious spectators to be carried away with the same Spirit of delusion whereof this man is a manifest instance as himself relateth in the following words But withal it is remarkable by what he saith that if a person be not thus changed at the first sight of them in this condition his day is gone and it is impossible he can be saved should he be present an hundered times thereafter 10. If we enquire at him whence their quakeing and shakeing of body cometh which is the ground of their being called Quakers He tels us P. 230. § S. That when the minde is introverted and looking for the apparition of the Life this is no other then their waiting for the operation of the devil and the power of darkness is resisting in the soul whereby you may judge of their perfection then the good seed this is either blake nature or worse riseth up and is felt working like medicine and by these contrary workings there is a strugling felt in the soul as really in the mysterie as Rebecca found the striveing of the twines in her womb and such a travail and labour in the soul that the outward man is affected and the body wonderfully agitated many sighs and groanes sent forth yea the very paines of a woman in travail is felt And this cometh not only upon one but sometimes upon many yea upon all Which may further confirme any sober Christian that there is at least much of the work of the Devil here these being the very passions of the old Phythonicks and the Devil dealing with them much after the same manner as he dealth with the Old Pagan Prophets and Priests Where read we of the Lords exerciseing thus his people in all the New Testament who were meeting about his solemne worshipe All this strugling can be nothing but the strugling of contrare humores in the body if it be not more immediatly by Satan who useth to be a merciless Master even to such as formally serve him such a hater is he of mankinde and such delight taketh he to afflict and torment even those who pay him all homage and devotion as hath been demonstrated by many instances in America and other parts of the world And this cannot but be looked upon as a righteous judgment in God giving them so up unto this cruel handling who wearying of the easy yoke of his Ordinances and Institutions shake all off at once and so declare themselves to be no more Christians We need not forget the Story of Gilpin in the Town of Kendal attested by the Magistrats thereof Where read we that the true Prophets of old even in their Trances and Ecstasies wherein their outward senses were bound had such wild anticque and unnatural motions of body as these Quakers sometimes have who will foame swell and froath at the mouth like persons in an Epilepsie Where read we of any such bodily shakeings quakeings tremblings and that from any such cause as is here given in all the primitive Churches or in any orthodox Church since meeting for the solemne worshipe of God I do not say that the deep exercises of the minde will have no influence on the body but such have no resemblance or affinity with the Quakers
10. He proceedeth After the pouring forth of the Spirit Act. 2 4. they are said to speak as the holy Ghost gave utterance and not what they had studied Ans. It is very true The Apostles then gote their divinity and knowledge in the mysteries of the Gospel miraculously taught them by immediat Infusion and withall gote the gift of tongues to speak to all people and languages And such as would expect such teaching now may as well expect the extraordinary gift of tongues which the Apostles gote And who seeth not how absurd this is Beside what was granted to the Apostles was not granted to all the Church Officers in those dayes no not to Evangelists who were extraordinary let be to ordinary Pastours and Doctors Nay none of all the extraordinary officers had all that the Apostles had One thing I would learne of h●m Can he tell me when and wher● the●e Apostles did Introvert to the gift within them in order to the obtaining of these rare qualifications or to the preaching of the word If he cannot do this he will finde no ground for his methode in this that is said of the Apostles They were infallible and acted by an infallible Spirit in their Teachings and Writings thinks he that this is expected or required of all Ministers now Or thinks he that his Quaker-Pratters are such Whatever he may dreame the Christian world may see the contrary What he citeth out of Lambertus I freely assent unto for my part 11. Next he tels us Pag. 250. § 19. That our way of preaching is hurtful and destructive because contrare to the nature of the Christian and Apostolicke Mini●trie 1 Cor. 1 17. Wherein It is not by the motion and acting of the Spirit but by mens Invention and eloquence by natural strength and acquired learning the Apostles preaching was not so 1 Cor. 2 3 4 5. Ans. The Spirit helping by ordinary meanes is not contrary to himself helping in an extrao●dinary way The Apostles way was peculiar to themselves It is a groundless imagination to think that all that is spoken by dependence upon God in the use of ordinary meanes and not by immediat Inspiration is wisdom of words making the Cross of Christ of none effect or is entiseing words of mans wisdome opposite to the demonstration of the Spirit and of power If any man study painted words and rhetorick to darken the wisdom of Go● in this mystery I will not approve of it but to study to finde out acceptable words as the Preacher did Eccles. 12 10. And words to render the Gospel plaine and intelligible to the hearers with a single dependance on God for his assistance herein I shall never think that Paul condemned this But sayes he the Preachers themselves confess that they are strangers to the Spirit of God and to his Operations Ans. Not all I hope though I hope also that none of them will with these bold and blasphemous Quakers pretend to immediat Inspirations This Quaker it seemeth knoweth nothing of the workings of the Spirit of God in and by meanes and will have all by immediat Revelations and Inspirations and before he want these he will go to the Devil to get them as Saul did go to the witch at Endor when the Lord would not answere him by the meanes then usual 12. Againe he sayes Pag. 251. It is contrare to the order and methode of the primitive Church 1 Cor. 14 20. c. Not considering that these were extraordinary Prophets Readeth he that these Prophets did Introvert into the light within them to get these Revelations However we see that Quakers are all Prophets in their owne account But sure I am they are not Prophets of the living God nor are the Revelations which they boast of divine but diabolick His last argum is that by our way the Spirit of God is excluded What way He tels us not and we can not beleeve him But he addeth And the natural wisdom and learning of man is exalted This is his mistake which he could see if the beam were out of his eye All their learning and wisdome is the pure product of Nature if not worse as we have oftentimes manifested for it cometh not from the Spirit of God neither mediatly nor immediatly but riseth out of the dung hill of nature and is extracted thence by the natural strength of man and all its works and effects are like the cause and original except where the Devil getteth in his finger in a more immediat way This is sayes he the chiefe and great cause why preachings are so unfruitful Poor man knoweth he no better Did not Christ and his Apostles preach to many that were not converted thereby Thinks he that the only cause why our preachings are so unfruitful is because we preach not by Inspiration And are their preachments so fruitful It may be too fruitful but that is no proof to me that they preach by the true Revelations and Inspirations of God for I read that when the Lord sends strong delusions men will beleeve a lie I read that all the world wondered after the Bea●t I have heard it said too that all the world became Arian All the world is not yet become Quakers see also what is said 2 Pet. 2 1 2 3. Yea sayes he according to this doctrine the Devil himself may and ought to be heard seing he knoweth the notion of truth and excelleth any of them in learning and eloquence we see when the Devil confessed the truth Christ rejected his testimony Ans Why doth the man thus speak untruth Do we say that every one though he were the Devil if he speak truth should be heard What countenance do●h our opinion in this matter give to this dreame I should think his judgment speaketh fairer for it for I trow the Devil needs no● study nor read books but can give out Revelations and Enthusiasmes as many as you will And be it in whomsoever he speaketh by Revelations or Inspirations or Enthu●iasmes Quaker or other Christ and his Apostles will reject his testimony though it should be true upon the matter And therefore after the example of Christ and his Apostle Paul we receive no testimony from Quakers themselves giving such palpable evidences of the Devil speaking in them and by them 13. To an Objection taken from the experience of all ages since the Apostles dayes to wit that God by his Spirit hath concurred with our way of preaching to the conversion and edification of many He answereth § 20. thus That though he will not deny this yet it will not follow that that practice was good more then it was good for Paul to go to Damascus to persecute the Saints because he did meet with Christ in the way Answ. His simile is a dissimilitude and hath no correspondence with the thing in hand Our Argument is That since the Apostles dayes and the ceasing of extraordinary gifts there hath been no other way of preaching but
he they were weak and Paul bore with them Ans. Yet being weak they might be babes in Christ I Cor. 3 1. and so have Christ arisen in them but if all were void of grace how could Paul call them sanctified in Christ Iesus 1 Cor. 1 2. and thank God for the grace of God which was given them by Iesus Christ vers 4. and say that the testimony of Christ was confirmed in them vers 6. why said he that the Spirit of God dwelt in them 1 Cor. 3 6. and that in Christ Iesus he had begotten them through the Gospel 1 Cor. 4 15 These many such passages which we finde in this Epistle say that there were at least some and not a few reall beleevers among them and so such to whom Christ was come inwardly and spiritually who for all this were to waite for Christs second comeing 1 Cor. 1.7 8. and in hopes of that to use this Sacrament Yet to confirme this he sayes that bread and wine are among the things that are on the earth which such as are risen with Christ should not set their affections upon Col. 3 1 2. Which I do not wonder at but think strange rather that he did not reckon it among those members which are upon the earth and which we are to mortifie Col. 3 5. to wit fornication uncleanness inordinate affection evil concupiscence and covetousness Yet it may be he will do so the next time As for his Syriak version which we regard not as authentick if he will look upon it as authentick he may consider what it sayes Act. 2 42. And if he hath rightly translated the words here on verse 17. thus what I am about to command you I say not as praising you for ye are not advanced but descended unto that which is less I see not what they can make for him will this prove that the Apostle saw a necessity to teach them not external things and elements but unnecessary and uncommanded things as our Quaker must say Nor is there the least shew of any countenance from that version on vers 20. given to this mans inference When therefore you meet together saith the version as he translateth it you do not as is just in the day of our Lord eat and drink And his inference is that to meet for eating bread and drinking wine was not the work of that day of the Lord. While as the Version speaketh of their corrupt manner But he would needs let us know that he hath seen these Versions with their interpretations in the Biblia Polyglotta though he could make on other use of them than to shew how dexterously he could pervert them as well as the authentick Original 21. When he can gaine nothing here he must try another foord and therefore Pag. 313. he tels us that other precepts far more positive are laid aside as that Act. 15 29. And knoweth he not that that was a part of the ceremonial Law the observation of which was thought necessary at that time for avoiding the scandal of the Jewes And the force of this canon was soon taken away by Paul in his Epistles to the Corinthians and Colossians was the Lord's Supper a ceremonial command Where read we of it in all the Law of Moses And was it ever a brogated by the Apostles or Antiquated either directly or by consequence When I pray or where And then he citeth that Iames 5 14. of anoynting the sick with oyl And when he replyeth to himself that it was a consequent of the gift of miracles which is now ceased he sweetly acquiesceth O●ly he adviseth us to lay aside the ceremony of Imposition of hands seing the giving of the holy Ghost is ceased Not considering that we use it not as it was used for the conveyance of the extraordinary gifts of the holy Ghost but as it was used for conveyance of the ministerial Power and Authority and this use continueth and so may the outward Ceremony of laying on of hands 22. To make all sure he will adduce some Scriptures proving that such outward and external rites are no necessary parts of the new Covenant dispensation And to this end citeth first Rom. 14 17. But the meat and drink which the Apostle there speaketh of is the same he was speaking of from the beginning of the Chapter and that as most suppose was meates which had been prohibited by the Law of Moses which some weak Christians thought yet to have been in force as to these things and therefore thought some meat was uncleane see vers 14. Will this make any thing against the observation of the Institution of Christ Will he bring in Christ's Supper as meat prohibited under the Law Then he will make Christ a transgressour He citeth next Col. 2 1● 20. Which is so plainely against him that I think he hath done violence to the light within him while he cited it for he must bring Christ's Supper either under the traditions of men or the rudiments of the world for of these the Apostle speaketh as we see vers 8 22. will he say that the Lord's Supper cometh in among the shadowes of himself as yet to come while as he was already come But he addeth a reason that must enforce all Pag. 311. to wit that then the Gospel shall not be distinguished from the Law nor preferred Which is but a Socinian argument formerly spoken to There is no yoke nor typicalness nor typical representation of things to come under the Kingdome of the Me●sias in the Supper of the Lord but a commemoration of what is past and a sealing and confirming to believers their right and interest in Christ all his benefites What followeth to § 10. hath been spoke to and obviated already He is wearisome in his repetitions and we must not weary the Reader with repetitions too 23. If nothing will do then he must ask what authoritie Ministers have to administrate this Sacrament Pag. 312. § 10. and so recalleth the debate concerning our call to the Ministery to which enough was said above Chap. XVII And because he would end as he began he must touch againe upon the various opinions about and practices in this Sacrament of old and of late Pag. 313. which only argueth the restlesness of his malice against this Ordinance how faine he would have it cashiered but all in vaine it will abide in force and be preserved in use till Christ come againe nill he will he and all his party 24. In end after our Quaker hath fought untill he can stand no longer and findeth himself weak unable to fight any more he cometh to something like a parlie and would accord unto some accommodation for he saith § 11. finally if any today out of true tenderness of conscience toward God would performe these ceremonies after that way and method in which the primitive Christians did it I would not doubt to affirme that to such it might be indulged for a time
of perfection in Christianity which he supposeth the Quakers are come unto may now lawfully offer beasts and sacrifices Yea and observe the whole ceremonial Law What doctrine is this We must not wonder to hear this of them who are utter enemies to the Gospel and so care not what be done that may tend to the abolition thereof 3. We heare not that the use of circumcision was ever permitted to the Gentiles though in a lower degree of perfection 4. Circumcision was for a time permitted even to the highest advanced Jewes for Paul after the Spirit was arisen in him did circumcise Timothy 10. This is all he saith upon this head for he toucheth not others of our maine arguments such as that Rom. 13. where the Apostle tels us that higher powers are of God to be a terrour to evil works and have a sword for this end and are the Ministers of God revengers to execute wrath upon such as do evil and ordereth that tribute and custome be payed to them as to God's Ministers attending continually upon this very thing They must then have power to suppress Injustice and Iniquity and to warde it off and so to defend their Subjects from Injustice and Oppression But this they cannot do but by the sword which they must use against all Oppressours whether within or without the Kingdom that would wrong and enjure their Subjects who otherwayes shall not be in case to lead a quiet and peacable life under them in all godliness and honesty 1 Tim. 2 2. whence we might also adduce another argument Further though he seemeth to grant the office of Magistracy to be lawful Yet his arguments will as well prove that unlawful as the use of Armes and Anabaptists will alleige that Magistracy it self was a Jewish ceremony and that with as great probability as he can alleige warre to have been ceremonial And as he granteth it lawful for such as are not Christians to make warre so will they grant it lawful for such to be Magistrates but not for Christians Yea Socinus himself though he will not have it lawful for privat persons to warre Yet he granteth it lawful for Kings Princes and Magistrats without any impeachment of their Christianity and why it should be lawful to these and not also to those I see not And it seemeth he would have the Magistrats warring without souldiers which how they can well do I know not 11. By what this Quaker granteth to such Magistrats as are not yet Christians after his mode he must needs say that it is not in it self unjust and iniquous for Magistrates to defend with the sword Justice and Peace for if it were unjust and iniquous in it self it should be lawful to none And if it be just and right in it self why should it be unlawful to Christians The Gospel destroyeth not what is just and right it taketh not away Magistracy nor that which is necessary to Magistracy and without which Magistracy cannot subsist nor Magistrates execute their office Will any man say that it is more just and equitable that Magistrates leave their Subjects as a prey to the lust of every oppressing plundering robbing and killing enemy then with armes to withstand and resist these oppressing and murthering adversaries And if not were it not a great act of injustice to his own Subjects thus to expose them to the cruel bloody sword of invaders And must Christianity countenance injustice and warrand that which the very light of Nature teacheth heathens to abhore Shall Christians be worse than infidels 1 Tim. 5 8. Then it is saifer to live under Pagan Magistrates than 〈◊〉 Christian Magistrates Would he have us runing away to Pagan Places for t●is end 12. What will this Quaker say to the Prophecies in the Revelation concerning the warres that have bin and are to be waged against the Turk and against Antichrist when God shall give them that before shed the blood of Saints and of the Prophets blood to drink for they are worthy whereupon thanksgiving was to be rendered saying Thou art righteous O Lord which art and wast and shall be because thou hast judged thus And even so Lord God Almighty true and righteous are thy judgments Revel 16 5 7. If wars be utterly unlawful under the New Test. how shall that be fulfilled which we have Revel 18. concerning the total and final ruine of mystical Babylon Why is it there said to God's owne people vers 6 7 8. reward her even as she rewarded you and double unto her double according to her works in the cup which she hath filled fill to her double how much she hath glorified her self and lived deliciously so much torment and sorrow give her she shall be utterly burnt with fire for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her And how shall that be accomplished Revel 17 16. And the Ten hornes which thou sawest upon the Beast these shall hate the whore and shall make her desolate and naked and shall eate her flesh and burn her with fire And how shall these songs be sung which we have Revel 19 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 And how shall he who is called faithful and true and in righteousness doth judge and make war and is clothed with a vesture dipt in blood and hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written King of Kings and Lord of Lords make a Supper of the flesh of Kings of Captains of mighty men of horsmen c. unto all the foules Revel 19 11. to the end But it seemeth our Quaker hath no will that any evil should befal that Whore and her Seate and therefore would prevent her destruction so far as he can by soweing this doctrine that Christians in no case must make warre But we beleeve our King shall finde armies to follow him when he taketh the fields and cometh to tread the winepress of the fiercness and wrath of Almighty God whatever Quakers say 13. We will therefore close this point with the words of our Confession of faith Chap. 23 § 1 2. God the Supream Lord and King of all the world hath ordained civil Magistrates to be under him over the people for his owne glory and the publick good And to this end hath armed them with the power of the sword for the defence and encouragment of them that are good and for the punihment of evil doers Rom. 13 vers 1 2 3 4. 1 Pet. 2 vers 13 14. It is lawful for Christians to accepte and execute the office of a Magistrat when called thereto Prov. 8 vers 15 16. Rom. 13 vers 1 2 4. In the managing whereof as they ought especially to maintaine piety justice and peace according to the wholsome Lawes of each Commonwealth Psal. 2 vers 10 11 12. 1 Tim. 2 vers 2. Psal. 82 vers 3 4. 2 Sam. 23 vers 3. 1 Pet. 2 vers 13. so for that end they may lawfully now under the New Testament wage war upon just and
not prevaile as to them would returne into our own bosome And besides this migh be the reward of serious wrestling with God on this behalfe that that Devil who drives them at this rate of opposition to his Christ should be seen to be the Devil and so the snare would be broken and the elect preserved from falling in it and the folly of these reprobats concerning the faith these Ianneses and Iambreses who resist the truth and withstand a greater then Moses might be made so manifest to all men as they should proceed no further Secondly I judge this monstruous appearance of men so madded against Christ and the alone way of salvation by him cals aloud to all upon whom the blessed name of Christ is called to fall a weeping and pouring out their hearts before him in the remembrance of the procuring cause whereby the just and holy Lord hath been provoked to let loose such a Spirit and leave so many souls to be seised upon by him as we see O sad sight are become a prey to him in this generation and are taken and held by the cords of their own consent captives of him at his will Alas we may read in this allaruming and wrath-speaking dispensation the high and hot displeasure of God at our sin in not prizeing this glorious Gospel of the Grace of God wherein life and immortalitie is brought to light mens not truthing it in love or receiving the love of the truth mens pleasing themselves with names and pursuing of notions while Christ was not received to dwell in the heart by faith their not departing from iniquitie on whom the name of Christ was called and who seemed to call on his name hath been the bitter root springing up in these spruts of hell whereby the Church is this day troubled so many are defiled with this leprosie and soul-destroying contagion This this is that root which hath brought forth these cursed fruits Because after all the pains he had been at to reforme his Church and setle pure ordinances amongst us Yet our scum remained in us and there were so few who made it their work to walk worthie of the Lord to all pleasing and to render unto him according to the benefite received therefore he suffered Abaddon to plant that vine of Sodom within the pale of his visible Church and in that vineyard on which he had taken so much pains because it brought not forth fruit unto him by whom it was dressed and it hath been most fertil in bringing forth these grapes of gall and bitter clusters and he hath conduced many trafficquers for him which he could not have found without the pale of the visible Church nay which he could not have found in any Church but in a Church on which so much pains had been taken and wherein ordinances had been setled in such puritie to tread these grapes of gall and vend this wine to poor souls which is the poison of Dragons and the cruel venome of Aspes and they are hell-busie for he must run whom such a Devil drives though it be down a steep place as is manifest in this Barclay and his complices who are long breathed in compassing sea and land to proselyt poor souls and poison them beyond the power of an Antidot for then mercy it self is engaged to destroy them by their trampleing under foot that blood of the Covenant whereby the blessed surtie was sanctified or whereby he sanctified seperat and set himself a part for their sakes for whom he became a propitiation I say we are to remember the peccant and procureing cause of all this Alas how may many remember their laughing at the first appearance of this prodigie and making light of the matter with shame and confusion of face How may they under the conviction of their guilt in this matter go groaning to their graves O will it not be an indelible marke of infamie and an evidence that we knew not the signes of the times and what they called us to do Will it not be a reproach never to be rolled away from this generation that one day upon the Devils appearance in this shape to destroy the all of Christianitie at once was not set apart in all the Churches of Brittan and Ireland to weep before the Lord Yea day after day by common consent Shall the posteritie heare that this was not done and yet heare that we were alive when cursed Naylour whose name and notions will be for a curse to all that love the name of our Lord Jesus Christ for ever appeared upon the stage Shall it be recorded how in his Bristol-road and what followed upon it he out-did the very Devil and also heare that what was acted against Christ the Lord did not put us all to cry upon our knees and weep day and night before him and here by the way give me leave to insert a Parenthesis this unhappie Author R. Barclay boasts in his Vniversal love that they have not the name of any particular person called upon them as other sects so he calls them have I shall not here tell him what of untruth is in this vain boast for whose name is called upon the Antinomians c. nor shall I suggest the difficultie a person of as happie an ingine and invention as he tells us he is would have found if he had set himself to essay the designeing of them by a particular name seing they have monpolized and soudred into one masse all the most damnable heresies ever came out of hell and so in their Camp are congregat and mustered against Christ all particular heresies whereby under several Leaders the Saviour hath been opposed from the beginning But this I 'le say and confes●e unto him there was a wrong done them that they were not called Naylorists i. e. the most perfect audacious opposers of Christ that ever the Devil brought on the stage and that their doctrine instead of Quakerisme was not called Naylorisme i. e. the purest blasphemie against Christ that ever any of Abbadon's brood belched forth And therefore hereafter I shall since they are his very spawn and as like him as if he had spitted them out of his mouth doe them that piece of justice as to designe them Naylorists i. e. Blasphemers of Christ for the Devil should have his due may not the very caul of our heart be rent in this reflexion Gracious Hezekiahs zeal and I dar say upon a lesse clamant emergent and a lesse crimson blasphemie will rise up in judgement against the luke warmnesse of this generation and our liveing in such a day and not lamenting before the Lord will witnesse that we had outlived our zeal and be too plain a proof that our holy fire was gone out since our heart did not boile over at our eye on the seeing and hearing of such a thing Oh if at last we would awake and weep that we had been a sleep while Satan was so busie in