Selected quad for the lemma: lord_n

Word A Word B Word C Word D Occurrence Frequency Band MI MI Band Prominent
lord_n word_n worship_v wrath_n 45 3 6.8760 4 false
View all documents for the selected quad

Text snippets containing the quad

ID Title Author Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication) STC Words Pages
A18690 A mirrour of Popish subtilties discouering sundry wretched and miserable euasions and shifts which a secret cauilling Papist in the behalfe of one Paul Spence priest, yet liuing and lately prisoner in the castle of Worcester, hath gathered out of Sanders, Bellarmine, and others, for the auoyding and discrediting of sundrie allegations of scriptures and fathers, against the doctrine of the Church of Rome, concerning sacraments, the sacrifice of the masse, transubstantiation, iustification, &c. Written by Rob. Abbot, minister of the word of God in the citie of Worcester. The contents see in the next page after the preface to the reader. Perused and allowed. Abbot, Robert, 1560-1618. 1594 (1594) STC 52; ESTC S108344 245,389 257

There are 24 snippets containing the selected quad. | View original text

〈◊〉_d come_v of_o the_o hebrew_n word_n so_o grave_a and_o learned_a writer_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d same_o 〈◊〉_d that_o some_o as_o grave_a and_o learned_a as_o themselves_o of_o their_o own_o side_n be_v ashamed_a to_o say_v the_o same_o that_o it_o be_v best_o for_o you_o first_o to_o disaprove_v their_o proof_n if_o you_o can_v for_o it_o be_v so_o substantial_o do_v by_o they_o that_o i_o shall_v but_o repeat_v their_o reason_n here_o and_o so_o actum_fw-la agere_fw-la who_o will_v ween_v any_o pith_n in_o this_o your_o cavil_n the_o dimiss_v of_o the_o catech●mine_n e_o 〈…〉_o min●_n and_o p●●nitentes_n be_v call_v missa_fw-la ●●go_fw-la this_o whole_a celebration_n be_v not_o call_v miss●_n both_o miss●_n belike_o the_o name_n of_o mass_n be_v a_o mongrel_n come_v of_o hebrew_n and_o latin_a both_o of_o the_o hebrew_n word_n m●sah_n as_o though_o one_o truth_n can_v stand_v with_o another_o great_a learne●_n man_n be_v of_o the_o mind_n that_o the_o old_a father_n especial_o solennia_fw-la especial_o who_o can_v be_v find_v once_o to_o have_v name_v missarum_fw-la solennia_fw-la s._n ●●gustine_a and_o s._n ambrose_n use_n missarum_fw-la solemnia_fw-la in_o the_o plural_a number_n to_o declare_v that_o both_o the_o part_n thereof_o that_o before_o the_o catechumens_n dimission_n and_o the_o rest_n follow_v bear_v all_o that_o name_n both_o which_o can_v stand_v with_o your_o dimission_n touch_v receive_n in_o both_o kind_n which_o by_o the_o way_n you_o talk_v of_o because_o you_o frame_v no_o argument_n about_o it_o my_o answer_n shall_v be_v to_o send_v you_o to_o our_o treatise_n of_o that_o matter_n and_o bellarmine_n l●b_n 4._o de_fw-fr sacramento_n from_o the_o ten_o chapter_n etc._n etc._n r._n abbot_n 6._o the_o derive_v of_o mass_n from_o the_o hebrew_n word_n masah_n that_o the_o very_a original_n of_o the_o word_n may_v seem_v to_o import_v sacrifice_n ●s_v a_o ill-favoured_n whelp_n late_o tumble_v out_o of_o the_o jesuit_n kennel_n the_o word_n have_v be_v in_o use_v these_o thousand_o year_n never_o in_o the_o greek_a but_o in_o the_o latin_a church_n the_o most_o probable_a reason_n thereof_o give_v from_o time_n to_o time_n by_o latin_a writer_n have_v be_v of_o the_o dimiss_a and_o send_v away_o of_o such_o as_o do_v not_o communi_fw-la 〈…〉_o 〈◊〉_d liturg._n 〈◊〉_d gregor_n de_fw-fr exposi_fw-la ord_n roma_fw-it li._n 2._o ex_fw-la cassandro_n in_o liturg._n 〈◊〉_d gory_a bishop_n of_o rome_n by_o 6._o by_o isidor_n origi_n lib._n 6._o isid●re_n who_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d much_o in_o the_o search_n of_o etymology_n by_o 7._o by_o cassian_n de_fw-fr canon_n orat_fw-la &_o psal_n modo_fw-la li_z 2_o cap._n 7._o casseinus_n 1._o casseinus_n durand_n lib._n 4._o cap._n 1._o durand_n ●_o durand_n beatus_fw-la rhena_fw-la annot_v ●●_o tertul._n count_n marc._n lib._n ●_o beatus_fw-la rhenanus_fw-la 12._o rhenanus_fw-la polyd._n virgil_n de_fw-mi invent_v rerum_fw-la li._n ●_o ca._n 12._o polydore_fw-la virgil_n and_o other_o and_o shall_v we_o believe_v a_o upstart_n jesuit_n who_o the_o pope_n lick_v to_o his_o fashion_n but_o yesterday_o that_o it_o be_v derive_v from_o a_o hebrew_n word_n 1._o word_n bellarm._n to_o 2_o de_fw-la missa_fw-la lib._n 1._o cap._n 1._o bellarmine_n himself_o be_v ashamed_a of_o this_o derivation_n it_o be_v but_o even_o as_o if_o some_o idleheaded_a fellow_n shall_v imagine_v some_o proportion_n of_o letter_n or_o likeness_n of_o syllable_n betwixt_o any_o latin_a and_o hebrew_n word_n and_o shall_v fond_o here_o upon_o face_n it_o out_o that_o the_o one_o be_v derive_v from_o the_o other_o if_o the_o answ_n will_v have_v have_v his_o mass_n from_o a_o hebrew_n word_n he_o shall_v have_v take_v it_o rather_o from_o the_o word_n massah_n as_o be_v a_o temptation_n and_o provocation_n of_o the_o lord_n wrath_n or_o from_o 38._o from_o dani._n 11._o 38._o mauzim_n the_o name_n of_o that_o idol_n which_o the_o abomination_n of_o desolation_n shall_v worship_v in_o steed_n of_o the_o true_a god_n and_o honour_n with_o gold_n and_o silver_n and_o precious_a stone_n etc._n etc._n as_o daniel_n speak_v and_o fit_v just_a to_o the_o popish_a mass_n now_o if_o missa_fw-la mass_n have_v his_o original_n from_o that_o custom_n of_o dimission_n as_o by_o the_o testimony_n of_o the_o abovenamed_a it_o be_v most_o likely_a and_o as_o be_v prove_v before_o by_o the_o most_o ancient_a use_n of_o the_o word_n then_o though_o in_o decourse_n of_o time_n custom_n bring_v the_o word_n to_o signify_v the_o celebration_n of_o the_o sacrament_n as_o in_o my_o former_a answer_n i_o note_v that_o it_o do_v yet_o that_o alter_v not_o i_o trow_v the_o derivation_n of_o the_o word_n nor_o force_v it_o to_o seek_v another_o theme_n and_o if_o the_o answ_n will_v not_o believe_v i_o in_o this_o point_n yet_o let_v he_o believe_v gregory_n bishop_n of_o rome_n who_o apply_v it_o to_o the_o very_a celebration_n of_o the_o sacrament_n yet_o give_v still_o the_o same_o reason_n of_o the_o name_n liturg._n name_n gregor_n apud_fw-la cassandrum_fw-la in_o liturg._n missa_fw-la the_o mass_n be_v therefore_o so_o call_v for_o that_o they_o which_o ought_v not_o to_o be_v present_a at_o the_o holy_a sacrament_n be_v will_v to_o depart_v which_o be_v the_o same_o as_o mitti_fw-la to_o be_v send_v away_o therefore_o unless_o by_o the_o voice_n of_o the_o deacon_n those_o that_o do_v not_o communicate_v be_v will_v according_a to_o the_o manner_n of_o our_o ancestor_n to_o depart_v the_o service_n which_o by_o the_o usual_a name_n be_v call_v mass_n be_v not_o right_o perform_v let_v durand_n also_o witness_v the_o same_o though_o differ_v somewhat_o from_o gregory_n 1._o gregory_n durand_n rat_n divi_z lib._n 4._o cap._n 1._o the_o mass_n of_o the_o faithful_a be_v so_o call_v of_o dimiss_v or_o send_v away_o because_o that_o be_v end_v every_o one_o of_o the_o faithful_a be_v dimiss_v or_o send_v away_o to_o his_o own_o home_n now_o here_o i_o must_v put_v the_o answ_n in_o mind_n that_o i_o allege_v in_o my_o former_a writing_n that_o the_o custom_n of_o dimiss_v or_o send_v away_o such_o as_o communicate_v not_o and_o of_o the_o communicate_v of_o all_o that_o be_v present_a be_v utter_o wear_v out_o in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n so_o that_o they_o have_v herein_o great_o swerve_v from_o antiquity_n and_o have_v keep_v the_o word_n m●ss●_n or_o mass_n without_o the_o meaning_n of_o the_o word_n to_o which_o point_n be_v answer_v nothing_o but_o yet_o let_v he_o esteem_v with_o himself_o what_o censure_n gregory_n in_o his_o word_n abovenamed_n for_o this_o cause_n give_v of_o his_o popish_a mass_n namely_o that_o it_o be_v not_o right_o and_o well_o celebrate_v now_o than_o though_o his_o great_a learned_a man_n tell_v he_o that_o missarum_fw-la s●l●nnia_fw-la with_o ambrose_n and_o austen_n do_v signify_v both_o part_n of_o the_o mass_n that_o before_o the_o dimission_n and_o that_o after_o a_o wise_a say_n of_o he_o who_o know_v well_o y●_z in_o his_o mass_n there_o be_v no_o dimission_n at_o all_o yet_o that_o hinder_v not_o but_o that_o the_o etymology_n of_o the_o word_n missa_fw-la be_v the_o same_o still_o as_o i_o have_v show_v out_o of_o gregory_n and_o durand_n albeit_o i_o must_v tell_v he_o that_o as_o great_a learned_a man_n as_o they_o of_o who_o he_o speak_v be_v out_o of_o doubt_n that_o neither_o ambrose_n nor_o austen_n ever_o ●●med_v missirum_fw-la sol●●ia_fw-la p._n spence_n sect._n 7._o for_o pray_v for_o the_o dead_a and_o that_o the_o dead_a rec●●ue_a benefit_n thereby_o and_o gain_v as_o chrysostome_n term_v th●t_o nothing_o make_v it_o so_o plain_a as_o that_o aerius_n by_o the_o testimony_n of_o epithanius_fw-la augustine_n and_o philastrius_n be_v account_v not_o a_o heretic_n but_o a_o archhereticke_n even_o as_o well_o for_o that_o point_n as_o for_o two_o or_o three_o other_o pretty_a puritan_n opinion_n now_o great_o urge_v and_o of_o who_o be_v he_o so_o account_v even_o of_o the_o answer_n the_o not_o of_o the_o whole_a church_n for_o that_o point_n for_o many_o of_o the_o church_n hold_v the_o same_o and_o yet_o be_v not_o account_v heretic_n see_v the_o answer_n whole_a church_n as_o by_o the_o testimony_n of_o the_o forename_a it_o be_v evident_a who_o make_v their_o catalogue_n only_o of_o open_a notorious_a &_o know_v condemn_v heretic_n and_o because_o you_o shall_v not_o be_v blind_v in_o chrysostome_n as_o though_o his_o prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a be_v only_a thanksgiving_n l●t_a chrysostome_n interpret_v chrysostome_n who_o speak_v of_o this_o very_a sacrifice_n call_v by_o he_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o sacrifice_n not_o only_a liturgia_fw-la and_o of_o the_o most_o reverend_a and_o dreadful_a part_n thereof_o i_o mean_v the_o consecration_n in_o his_o book_n of_o his_o dialogue_n di_fw-it sacerdotio_fw-la say_v that_o the_o priest_n pray_v to_o god_n that_o he_o will_v
just_o and_o well_o persuade_v a_o christian_n to_o believe_v the_o contrary_a in_o my_o opinion_n s._n matthew_n mark_n luke_n and_o paul_n all_o writing_n this_o be_v my_o body_n whereas_o write_v otherwise_o of_o one_o thing_n one_o say_v if_o i_o in_o the_o finger_n of_o god_n cast_v out_o devil_n etc._n etc._n another_o if_o i_o in_o the_o spirit_n of_o god_n etc._n etc._n so_o that_o in_o speech_n in_o untrue_a as_o appear_v by_o the_o conference_n of_o these_o place_n mat._n 5._o 29._o with_o mar._n 9_o 3._o mar._n 5._o 39_o with_o luc._n 6._o 29._o mat._n 20._o 23._o mar._n 10._o 39_o mat._n 21._o 21._o mar._n 11._o 23._o which_o be_v not_o take_v literal_o and_o yet_o difler_n not_o in_o phrase_n of_o speech_n any_o matter_n where_o more_o than_o one_o speak_v of_o the_o same_o thing_n every_o one_o have_v more_o of_o the_o same_o thing_n to_o give_v more_o light_a than_o another_o but_o in_o the_o matter_n of_o the_o sacrament_n no_o whit_n so_o but_o in_o the_o very_a substantial_a point_n 32_o point_n untrue_a for_o they_o vary_v as_o touch_v the_o cup_n &_o there_o be_v the_o same_o reason_n of_o the_o one_o part_n of_o the_o sacrament_n as_o of_o the_o other_o see_v the_o reply_n council_n constanti_fw-la 6._o can_n 32_o all_o deliver_v the_o self_n same_o effectual_a word_n sir_n once_o again_o thanks_n for_o your_o good_a chrysostome_n and_o so_o i_o beseech_v to_o recall_v they_o that_o err_v into_o the_o way_n of_o truth_n and_o everlasting_a salvation_n a_o reply_n against_o the_o former_a answer_n to_o the_o place_n of_o chrysostome_n and_o gelasius_n the_o willingness_n i_o have_v to_o do_v you_o good_a m._n spence_n i_o wish_v may_v take_v such_o effect_n with_o you_o as_o that_o god_n may_v be_v glorify_v by_o reveal_v unto_o you_o the_o knowledge_n of_o his_o truth_n i_o doubt_v not_o but_o it_o shall_v be_v so_o if_o you_o seek_v it_o as_o you_o ought_v and_o where_o you_o ought_v concern_v the_o place_n of_o chrysostome_n of_o use_v water_n in_o the_o sacrament_n i_o find_v it_o expound_v as_o you_o answer_v i_o in_o council_n constantinopol_n 6._o ca._n 32._o of_o they_o that_o use_v water_n only_o and_o no_o wine_n albeit_o the_o word_n seem_v to_o i_o plain_o to_o enforce_v upon_o the_o reader_n another_o understanding_n neither_o find_v i_o any_o reason_n why_o the_o bishop_n of_o armenia_n be_v a_o thousand_o under_o one_o metropolitan_a may_v not_o be_v think_v as_o meet_v judge_n of_o chrysostom_n meaning_n as_o the_o bishop_n of_o this_o council_n especial_o see_v it_o be_v not_o certain_a either_o what_o time_n or_o by_o who_o those_o canon_n be_v make_v and_o appear_v to_o be_v false_o father_v upon_o the_o six_o general_a council_n as_o surius_n in_o his_o admonition_n 2._o surius_n in_o admoni●_n ad_fw-la lector_fw-la de_fw-fr can_v 6._o synodi_fw-la council_n to_o 2._o concern_v those_o canon_n give_v to_o understand_v yea_o and_o they_o be_v in_o diverse_a point_n reject_v by_o yourselves_o as_o be_v plain_a also_o by_o surius_n both_o in_o the_o same_o preface_n and_o by_o some_o note_n add_v to_o some_o of_o the_o canon_n but_o i_o contend_v not_o of_o that_o point_n and_o as_o i_o condemn_v not_o in_o that_o respect_n the_o church_n which_o either_o have_v use_v or_o do_v use_v that_o mixture_n only_o without_o opinion_n of_o superstition_n and_o necessity_n so_o neither_o do_v i_o find_v reason_n why_o those_o church_n be_v to_o be_v condemn_v that_o rather_o follow_v as_o most_o assure_v the_o simplicity_n of_o the_o institution_n of_o jesus_n christ_n where_o we_o find_v mention_n of_o the_o fruit_n of_o the_o vine_n but_o nothing_o as_o touch_v water_n if_o you_o say_v as_o the_o canon_n say_v that_o this_o be_v to_o innovate_v those_o thing_n which_o have_v be_v deliver_v by_o tradition_n pompeium_n cypri_n epist_n ad_fw-la pompeium_n i_o must_v answer_v you_o with_o cyprian_n word_n whence_o be_v this_o tradition_n whether_o descend_v from_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o lord_n and_o of_o the_o gospel_n or_o come_v from_o the_o commandment_n and_o epistle_n of_o the_o apostle_n for_o that_o those_o thing_n which_o be_v write_v must_v be_v do_v god_n testify_v etc._n etc._n if_o therefore_o either_o it_o be_v command_v in_o the_o gospel_n or_o contain_v in_o the_o epistle_n and_o act_n of_o the_o apostle_n let_v this_o tradition_n be_v keep_v as_o holy_a now_o see_v there_o be_v no_o testimony_n of_o the_o holy_a scripture_n to_o approve_v the_o necessity_n of_o water_n i_o take_v your_o word_n direct_o contrary_a to_o the_o scripture_n to_o be_v understand_v rather_o of_o those_o which_o use_v water_n only_o contrary_a to_o the_o text_n than_o wine_n only_o according_a to_o the_o express_a mention_n of_o the_o text_n your_o gloze_n of_o the_o canon_n glossa_fw-la de_fw-fr consecra_fw-la do_v 2._o cap._n sicut_fw-la in_o glossa_fw-la law_n do_v tell_v that_o doctor_n have_v say_v that_o water_n be_v to_o be_v mingle_v in_o the_o cup_n only_o for_o honesty_n or_o decency_n and_o therefore_o not_o of_o necessity_n to_o the_o sacrament_n and_o that_o among_o other_o thomas_n aquinas_n grant_v polydore_v virgil_n refer_v the_o fist_n institution_n thereof_o to_o alexander_n 3_o plati_fw-la in_o alexander_n 1_o durand_n rati_fw-la divin_v lib._n 4._o rubri_fw-la de_fw-la officio_fw-la sacerdotis_fw-la etc._n etc._n thom._n aquin._n pa_n 3._o q._n 7●_n art_n 3_o the_o first_o bishop_n of_o rome_n p●atina_n seem_v to_o agree_v with_o he_o so_o durand_n say_v water_n be_v mingle_v in_o the_o cup_n with_o the_o wine_n by_o the_o institution_n of_o pope_n alexander_n the_o first_o and_o as_o touch_v christ_n use_v of_o water_n thomas_n aquinas_n make_v it_o but_o a_o probability_n and_o no_o certain_a truth_n it_o be_v probable_o believe_v that_o our_o lord_n institute_v this_o sacrament_n in_o wine_n mingle_v with_o water_n according_a to_o the_o manner_n of_o that_o country_n your_o council_n of_o trent_n say_v no_o more_o it_o be_v suppose_v that_o our_o lord_n do_v so_o and_o in_o a_o conference_n betwixt_o anselmus_fw-la a_o bishop_n of_o saxome_a and_o nech●tes_v patriarch_n of_o nicomedia_n anno_fw-la domini_fw-la 12._o centur._n magdebur_n cap._n 12._o 1138._o ne●hites_n object_v that_o christ_n our_o saviour_n do_v not_o use_v water_n in_o the_o consecration_n anselmus_fw-la answer_v by_o likelihood_n that_o he_o do_v so_o because_o in_o palestina_n the_o manner_n be_v to_o mingle_v water_n with_o their_o wine_n now_o if_o it_o be_v do_v according_a to_o the_o manner_n of_o that_o country_n than_o it_o be_v do_v to_o abate_v the_o strength_n of_o the_o wine_n and_o not_o for_o any_o such_o mystery_n as_o some_o have_v imagine_v in_o many_o country_n where_o their_o wine_n be_v very_o strong_a temperate_a &_o sober_a man_n use_v to_o qualify_v and_o delay_v the_o heat_n thereof_o by_o mingle_v water_n lest_o it_o shall_v cause_v any_o distemperature_n to_o the_o body_n and_o this_o the_o greek_a church_n may_v seem_v to_o have_v respect_v who_o consecrate_v with_o mere_a wine_n as_o appear_v by_o n●chites_n his_o speech_n in_o the_o conference_n abovenamed_n as_o also_o by_o some_o edition_n of_o chrysostom_n liturgy_n and_o afterwards_o put_v in_o water_n when_o it_o be_v to_o be_v administer_v to_o the_o receiver_n the_o reason_n which_o they_o use_v for_o not_o add_v water_n before_o be_v this_o because_o christ_n be_v not_o read_v to_o have_v add_v water_n which_o accord_v with_o the_o word_n of_o chrysostome_n allege_v by_o i_o but_o as_o i_o say_v before_o i_o stand_v not_o upon_o this_o point_n only_o i_o pray_v you_o to_o consider_v a_o argument_n of_o bertram_n in_o his_o book_n de_fw-fr corpo_fw-it &_o sangui_fw-la domini_fw-la ad_fw-la carol_n imperat_fw-la take_v domini_fw-la bertram_n de_fw-fr corpo_fw-it &_o sing_v domini_fw-la his_o ground_n from_o this_o mixture_n water_n say_v he_o in_o the_o sacrament_n bear_v the_o image_n of_o the_o people_n therefore_o if_o the_o wine_n sanctify_v by_o the_o service_n of_o the_o minister_n be_v bodily_a turn_v into_o the_o blood_n of_o christ_n than_o the_o water_n also_o which_o be_v mingle_v withal_o must_v needs_o be_v bodily_a or_o substantial_o turn_v into_o the_o blood_n of_o the_o believe_a people_n for_o where_o there_o be_v one_o sanctification_n there_o be_v consequent_o one_o work_a or_o effect_n and_o where_o there_o be_v the_o like_a reason_n there_o follow_v also_o the_o like_a mystery_n but_o we_o see_v in_o the_o water_n there_o be_v nothing_o turn_v bodily_a consequent_o therefore_o in_o the_o wine_n there_o be_v nothing_o bodily_a show_v it_o be_v take_v spiritual_o whatsoever_o be_v signify_v in_o the_o water_n as_o touch_v the_o body_n of_o the_o people_n it_o must_v needs_o therefore_o be_v take_v spiritual_o whatsoever_o be_v signify_v in_o the_o wine_n concern_v the_o blood_n of_o christ_n
which_o word_n among_o other_o it_o have_v please_v those_o honest_a censour_n of_o the_o king_n of_o spain_n appointment_n to_o exempt_v from_o be_v bertram●_n index_n exp●_n in_o censura_fw-la bertram●_n print_v any_o more_o a_o shift_n wherewith_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n factour_n have_v make_v we_o very_o well_o acquaint_v in_o the_o work_n of_o diverse_a author_n both_o old_a and_o new_a by_o the_o way_n as_o you_o touch_v this_o point_n you_o seem_v to_o glean_v for_o the_o defence_n of_o your_o mass_n tell_v i_o that_o in_o the_o canon_n aforesaid_a there_o be_v mention_v make_v of_o s._n james_n and_o s._n basils_n mass_n or_o sacrifice_n leave_v to_o the_o church_n in_o writing_n by_o which_o speech_n you_o put_v i_o in_o mind_n of_o that_o melancholy_a athenian_a who_o stand_v at_o the_o sea_n shore_n will_v imagine_v of_o every_o ship_n that_o he_o see_v that_o it_o be_v his_o ship_n for_o in_o like_a sort_n whersoever_o you_o find_v in_o any_o of_o the_o ancient_a father_n mention_v make_v of_o the_o mystical_a sacrifice_n you_o fancy_v it_o straight_o way_n to_o be_v mean_v of_o your_o sacrilegious_a &_o abominable_a sacrifice_n of_o the_o mass_n a_o curse_a devise_n of_o satan_n thereby_o to_o withhold_v man_n from_o the_o sovereign_a &_o only_a sacrifice_n of_o the_o cross_n of_o christ_n therefore_o whereas_o the_o canon_n mention_v only_a sacrifice_n you_o allege_v it_o to_o i_o mass_n or_o sacrifice_n but_o you_o shall_v know_v that_o the_o greek_a father_n be_v not_o privy_a to_o the_o name_n of_o your_o mass_n how_o soever_o it_o please_v some_o of_o you_o to_o make_v a_o cog_a argument_n to_o blind_v the_o unlearned_a by_o these_o title_n s._n james_n his_o mass_n s._n chrysostom_n mass_n etc._n etc._n use_v by_o the_o translator_n but_o never_o mean_v by_o the_o author_n the_o greek_a word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d which_o they_o use_v may_v rather_o import_v our_o divine-seruice_n then_o your_o profane_a mass_n and_o if_o it_o must_v needs_o signify_v mass_n you_o may_v turn_v the_o magistrate_n into_o a_o lord_n rom_n 13._o 6._o the_o minister_n of_o god_n rom._n 15._o 27._o phil._n 2._o 25._o to_o minister_v unto_o heb._n 1_o 14._o minister_a spirit_n act._n 13._o 2._o as_o they_o be_v minister_a to_o the_o lord_n masse-pry_a because_o he_o be_v call_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d &_o you_o may_v say_v that_o to_o relieve_v the_o necessity_n of_o saint_n be_v to_o say_v mass_n because_o the_o apostle_n use_v thereof_o the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o angel_n shall_v be_v call_v massing_n spirit_n because_o they_o be_v call_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d you_o remember_v since_o you_o will_v needs_o enforce_v the_o apostle_n say_v mass_n by_o the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d how_o well_o to_o the_o purpose_n you_o may_v hereby_o understand_v your_o mass_n you_o call_v of_o the_o word_n missa_fw-la you_o shall_v indeed_o rather_o of_o the_o word_n massa_n as_o be_v a_o heap_n of_o unprofitable_a ceremony_n and_o wicked_a profanation_n of_o the_o sacrament_n of_o jesus_n christ_n but_o missa_fw-la import_v not_o sacrifice_v as_o you_o pretend_v it_o do_v the_o old_a use_n of_o the_o word_n missa_fw-la disclose_v the_o great_a abuse_n of_o your_o mass_n it_o note_v the_o send_v away_o of_o non-communicants_a none_o be_v permit_v to_o stay_v while_o the_o sacrament_n be_v minister_v but_o only_o such_o as_o do_v communicate_v so_o do_v s._n austen_n declare_v speak_v 232._o au._n de_fw-fr temp._n ser_n 232._o as_o touch_v the_o catechumeni_fw-la that_o be_v such_o as_o be_v yet_o but_o novice_n in_o religion_n and_o under_o catechise_v and_o therefore_o as_o yet_o not_o permit_v to_o be_v partaker_n of_o the_o holy_a mystery_n nor_o to_o be_v present_a at_o the_o celebration_n thereof_o behold_v say_v he_o after_o the_o sermon_n there_o be_v missa_fw-la a_o dimission_n or_o send_v away_o of_o such_o as_o be_v catechumeni_fw-la the_o faithful_a abide_v still_o we_o shall_v come_v to_o the_o place_n of_o prayer_n etc._n etc._n and_o in_o the_o four_o council_n of_o carthage_n order_n be_v take_v that_o the_o bishop_n shall_v forbid_v 84._o council_n carthag_fw-mi 4._o can_n 84._o none_o to_o enter_v into_o the_o church_n and_o hear_v the_o word_n of_o god_n whether_o he_o be_v gentile_a heretic_n or_o jew_n usque_fw-la ad_fw-la missam_fw-la until_o the_o dimission_n or_o send_v away_o of_o the_o catechumeni_fw-la there_o be_v no_o such_o dimission_n in_o your_o mass_n and_o of_o those_o that_o stay_v none_o be_v ordinary_o partaker_n of_o the_o sacrament_n but_o only_o the_o priest_n the_o people_n be_v spectator_n only_o of_o his_o stage-like_a and_o trifle_a gesture_n and_o go_v as_o empty_a home_n as_o they_o come_v thither_o but_o in_o process_n of_o time_n custom_n draw_v this_o w●r●_n to_o note_v the_o celebration_n of_o the_o sacrament_n which_o be_v administer_v to_o such_o as_o remain_v after_o this_o dimission_n whence_o it_o be_v that_o the_o pretend_a liturgy_n of_o s._n james_n basil_n and_o chrysostome_n be_v by_o the_o translator_n term_v by_o the_o name_n of_o mass_n whereas_o those_o liturgy_n i_o doubt_v not_o if_o they_o be_v write_v by_o those_o man_n who_o name_n they_o bear_v as_o some_o of_o they_o assure_o be_v not_o or_o if_o be_v write_v by_o they_o they_o remain_v as_o their_o author_n leave_v they_o as_o by_o the_o variety_n of_o the_o edition_n of_o chrysostom_n liturgy_n it_o be_v plain_a they_o do_v not_o will_v rather_o resemble_v our_o communion_n wherein_o both_o the_o minister_n and_o the_o people_n communicate_v together_o in_o both_o kind_n than_o your_o mass_n wherein_o the_o people_n be_v either_o idle_a looker_n on_o or_o when_o they_o be_v communicant_n be_v by_o your_o sacrilege_n communicant_n in_o one_o kind_n only_o and_o seclude_v from_o the_o other_o contrary_a altogether_o to_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n or_o which_o be_v more_o to_o the_o express_a institution_n of_o our_o saviour_n christ_n and_o this_o be_v to_o be_v see_v by_o those_o step_n of_o antiquity_n which_o as_o yet_o be_v find_v in_o those_o liturgy_n neither_o do_v i_o see_v what_o great_a advantage_n you_o have_v by_o they_o to_o set_v any_o colour_n upon_o your_o popish_a mass_n save_v only_o to_o blind_v the_o eye_n of_o the_o simple_a and_o unlearned_a and_o whereas_o you_o allege_v to_o i_o that_o there_o be_v in_o they_o prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a there_o be_v good_a cause_n to_o think_v that_o those_o prayer_n be_v at_o the_o first_o but_o commemoration_n and_o thankesgiving_n for_o the_o depart_v in_o the_o faith_n of_o christ_n for_o that_o in_o chrysostom_n liturgy_n we_o find_v according_a to_o that_o which_o then_o i_o answer_v you_o thus_o we_o offer_v unto_o thou_o o_o lord_n this_o reasonable_a service_n for_o those_o ●●gia_fw-la chrysost_fw-la ●●gia_fw-la which_o rest_n in_o the_o faith_n our_o ancestor_n father_n the_o patriarch_n prophet_n apostle_n preacher_n evangelist_n martyr_n especial_o for_o the_o most_o holy_a and_o pure_a virgin_n mary_n etc._n etc._n but_o it_o be_v contrary_a to_o the_o custom_n of_o your_o church_n &_o to_o your_o doctrine_n to_o pray_v for_o the_o virgin_n mary_n for_o martyr_n etc._n etc._n and_o you_o use_v to_o that_o purpose_n the_o say_n of_o s._n austen_n he_o do_v injury_n to_o the_o martyr_n which_o pray_v for_o a_o martyr_n therefore_o 17._o august_n de_fw-fr verb_n apo._n ser_n 17._o these_o be_v only_a speech_n of_o thanksgiving_n unto_o god_n for_o his_o love_a mercy_n show_v to_o those_o through_o jesus_n christ_n &_o make_v nothing_o at_o all_o for_o your_o prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a to_o this_o be_v the_o ancient_a custom_n o●_n the_o church_n s._n austen_n allude_v when_o he_o say_v when_o the_o 10._o aug._n euchi●_n cap._n 10._o sacrifice_n either_o of_o the_o altar_n or_o of_o any_o alm_n be_v offer_v for_o all_o that_o be_v dead_a they_o be_v for_o they_o that_o be_v very_o good_a thankesgiving_n etc._n etc._n which_o custom_n of_o thanksgiving_n general_o we_o also_o use_v for_o all_o that_o be_v depart_v hence_o in_o the_o faith_n of_o jesus_n christ_n as_o for_o that_o which_o he_o add_v for_o they_o that_o be_v not_o very_o evil_a they_o be_v propitiation_n etc._n etc._n we_o take_v it_o to_o be_v a_o superstitious_a conceit_n which_o after_o creep_v into_o y●_z church_n contrary_v by_o many_o in_o s._n austin_n time_n as_o may_v appear_v in_o his_o book_n of_o question_n to_o dulcitius_n where_o propose_v the_o question_n of_o dulcitius_n whether_o oblation_n for_o the_o dead_a do_v avail_v they_o whereby_o it_o appear_v it_o be_v a_o matter_n controverse_v in_o that_o time_n he_o answer_v to_o this_o many_o say_v that_o if_o there_o may_v be_v any_o good_a do_v herein_o 2._o august_n de_fw-fr 8._o quaest_n
take_v in_o the_o net_n which_o thou_o thyself_o have_v weave_v for_o as_o the_o bread_n and_o wine_n albeit_o in_o virtue_n and_o power_n they_o imply_v the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n yet_o retain_v still_o the_o substance_n &_o truth_n of_o nature_n which_o they_o have_v before_o so_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n albeit_o it_o be_v glorify_v and_o advance_v to_o high_a and_o excellent_a dignity_n yet_o remain_v still_o the_o same_o in_o substance_n and_o property_n of_o nature_n as_o it_o be_v before_o which_o saint_n austen_n express_v thus_o speak_v of_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n to_o 57_o august_n ep_v 57_o which_o indeed_o he_o have_v give_v immortality_n but_o have_v not_o take_v away_o the_o nature_n thereof_o if_o eu●yches_n be_v now_o alive_a he_o will_v sure_o be_v a_o papist_n your_o new_a and_o gross_a heresy_n of_o transubstantiation_n have_v be_v a_o good_a nest_n for_o he_o to_o shroud_v himself_o in_o for_o he_o may_v and_o will_v have_v say_v that_o as_o the_o bread_n and_o wine_n in_o the_o sacrament_n after_o consecration_n do_v leave_v their_o former_a substance_n and_o be_v change_v into_o another_o so_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n although_o it_o be_v first_o a_o true_a and_o natural_a body_n yet_o after_o his_o ascension_n and_o glorification_n be_v change_v into_o another_o nature_n and_o substance_n of_o the_o godhead_n a_o meet_a cover_n domini_fw-la cyp_n de_fw-fr caena_fw-la domini_fw-la for_o such_o a_o cup._n you_o may_v remember_v that_o i_o show_v you_o how_o cyprian_n do_v exemplify_v the_o matter_n of_o the_o sacrament_n by_o the_o divinity_n &_o humanity_n of_o christ_n that_o as_o jesus_n christ_n though_o true_o god_n yet_o be_v not_o let_v thereby_o to_o be_v true_o man_n so_o the_o sacrament_n though_o it_o imply_v sacramental_o not_o only_a the_o virtue_n &_o power_n but_o also_o the_o truth_n of_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n yet_o be_v not_o thereby_o hinder_v from_o have_v in_o it_o the_o substance_n and_o nature_n of_o bread_n &_o wine_n and_o as_o christ_n be_v change_v in_o nature_n not_o by_o leave_v his_o former_a nature_n of_o godhead_n but_o by_o take_v to_o he_o the_o nature_n of_o man_n so_o bread_n and_o wine_n be_v change_v in_o nature_n not_o by_o leave_v their_o former_a nature_n &_o substance_n but_o by_o have_v unite_v unto_o they_o by_o the_o work_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n in_o such_o manner_n as_o i_o have_v say_v the_o substance_n and_o effect_n of_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o jesus_n christ_n but_o you_o can_v see_v how_o the_o word_n of_o christ_n this_o be_v my_o body_n etc._n etc._n can_v be_v understand_v otherwise_o but_o of_o your_o transubstantiation_n there_o be_v m._n spence_n a_o veil_n of_o prejudice_n lie_v before_o your_o heart_n which_o blind_v your_o eye_n that_o you_o can_v see_v it_o otherwise_o you_o may_v know_v by_o the_o very_a speech_n of_o the_o ancient_a father_n to_o who_o you_o refer_v yourself_o that_o christ_n call_v bread_n and_o wine_n his_o body_n and_o blood_n and_o that_o after_o the_o same_o manner_n of_o sacramental_a speak_n which_o i_o note_v unto_o you_o before_o out_o of_o saint_n austen_n sacrament_n because_o 23._o august_n ep_v 23._o of_o the_o resemblance_n do_v most_o common_o take_v the_o name_n of_o the_o thing_n themselves_o which_o they_o do_v resemble_v whereof_o he_o say_v for_o example_n in_o the_o same_o place_n the_o sacrament_n of_o christ_n body_n be_v after_o a_o certain_a manner_n the_o body_n of_o christ_n but_o cyprian_n tell_v you_o our_o 6._o cypr._n will_v 1._o ep_n 6._o lord_n call_v the_o bread_n make_v by_o the_o unite_n of_o many_o corn_n his_o body_n and_o the_o wine_n press_v out_o of_o many_o cluster_n and_o grape_n he_o call_v his_o blood_n and_o chrysostome_n say_v of_o bread_n in_o the_o sacrament_n the_o bread_n 1._o chrysost_n ad_fw-la caesar_n theod._n dia._n 1._o be_v vouchsafe_v the_o name_n of_o our_o lord_n body_n and_o theodoret_n as_o before_o christ_n honour_v the_o visible_a sign_n with_o the_o name_n of_o his_o body_n &_o blood_n and_o s._n austen_n the_o bread_n be_v the_o body_n of_o christ_n and_o theodoret_n again_o 10._o aug._n ap●d_a b●dam_n in_o 1._o cor_fw-la 10._o our_o saviour_n change_v the_o name_n and_o give_v unto_o his_o body_n the_o name_n of_o the_o sign_n and_o to_o the_o sign_n the_o name_n of_o his_o body_n and_o cyprian_a again_o our_o lord_n give_v at_o the_o table_n with_o his_o own_o hand_n bread_n chrismatis_fw-la theod_n dial_n 1._o cypr._n the_o unct_n chrismatis_fw-la and_o wine_n and_z bread_n and_o wine_n be_v his_o flesh_n and_o blood_n the_o sign_n and_o the_o thing_n signify_v be_v count_v by_o one_o name_n and_o if_o you_o will_v know_v the_o cause_n why_o christ_n do_v use_v this_o exchange_n of_o name_n theodoret_n tell_v you_o straightway_o after_o he_o will_v have_v those_o that_o be_v partaker_n of_o the_o divine_a mystery_n not_o to_o regard_v the_o nature_n of_o those_o thing_n which_o be_v see_v but_o because_o of_o the_o change_n of_o the_o name_n to_o believe_v the_o change_n which_o be_v wrought_v by_o grace_n namely_o that_o our_o mind_n may_v be_v fix_v not_o upon_o the_o sign_n but_o upon_o the_o thing_n signify_v thereby_o as_o he_o that_o have_v any_o thing_n assure_v unto_o he_o by_o hand_n and_o seal_v respect_v not_o the_o paper_n or_o the_o writing_n or_o the_o seal_n but_o the_o thing_n that_o be_v confirm_v and_o assure_v unto_o he_o hereby_o by_o these_o you_o may_v understand_v that_o it_o be_v bread_n which_o christ_n call_v his_o body_n and_o as_o 4._o cypr._n lib._n 2._o ep●st_n 3._o aug._n count_n ad●m_n c2_n 12._o tertul_n count_n marcionem_fw-la lib._n 4._o cyprian_n say_v that_o it_o be_v wine_n which_o he_o call_v his_o blood_n and_o let_v s._n austen_n tell_v you_o the_o same_o our_o lord_n doubt_v not_o to_o say_v this_o be_v my_o body_n when_o he_o give_v the_o sign_n of_o his_o body_n so_o tertullian_n the_o bread_n which_o christ_n take_v and_o distribute_v to_o his_o disciple_n he_o make_v his_o body_n say_v this_o be_v my_o body_n that_o be_v to_o say_v a_o figure_n of_o my_o body_n whereby_o you_o may_v conceive_v that_o bread_n and_o wine_n be_v not_o real_o change_v into_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n as_o you_o teach_v but_o remain_v in_o substance_n the_o same_o they_o be_v be_v in_o use_n and_o property_n the_o sign_n and_o figure_n of_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n and_o as_o gelasius_n add_v to_o the_o word_n before_o allege_v the_o image_n and_o resemblance_n of_o the_o lord_n body_n and_o blood_n be_v celebrate_v in_o the_o exercise_n of_o the_o sacrament_n yet_o they_o be_v not_o naked_a and_o bare_a sign_n as_o you_o be_v wont_v hereupon_o to_o cavil_n but_o substantial_a and_o effectual_a sign_n or_o seal_n rather_o assure_v our_o faith_n of_o the_o thing_n signify_v thereby_o and_o deliver_v as_o it_o be_v into_o our_o hand_n and_o possession_n the_o whole_a fruit_n and_o benefit_n of_o the_o death_n and_o passion_n of_o jesus_n christ_n but_o you_o will_v urge_v perhaps_o that_o tertullian_n say_v christ_n make_v the_o bread_n his_o body_n which_o word_n your_o man_n be_v wont_a to_o allege_v out_o of_o the_o former_a part_n of_o the_o sentence_n guileful_o conceal_v the_o end_n of_o the_o same_o tertullian_n declare_v his_o own_o meaning_n that_o he_o understand_v a_o figure_n of_o the_o body_n but_o you_o may_v further_o 1●_n joh._n 1._o 1●_n remember_v that_o the_o gospel_n say_v the_o word_n be_v make_v flesh_n and_o yet_o it_o cease_v not_o to_o be_v the_o word_n so_o the_o bread_n be_v make_v the_o body_n of_o christ_n and_o yet_o it_o cease_v not_o to_o be_v the_o bread_n s._n austen_n say_v 10._o august_n apud_fw-la bedam_fw-la in_o 1._o cor_fw-la 10._o christ_n have_v commend_v unto_o we_o in_o this_o sacrament_n his_o body_n &_o blood_n which_o also_o he_o make_v we_o to_o be_v and_o by_o his_o mercy_n we_o be_v that_o which_o we_o do_v receive_v yet_o we_o be_v not_o transubstantiate_v into_o the_o body_n &_o blood_n of_o christ_n understand_v therefore_o that_o the_o bread_n be_v make_v the_o body_n of_o christ_n after_o a_o certain_a manner_n and_o not_o in_o the_o truth_n of_o the_o thing_n but_o in_o a_o signify_v mystery_n as_o touch_v the_o bodily_a and_o popish_a eat_n &_o drink_v of_o christ_n flesh_n and_o blood_n ground_v on_o this_o point_n of_o transubstantiation_n christ_n our_o saviour_n say_v to_o the_o jew_n as_o s._n austen_n expound_v his_o word_n 98._o august_n in_o psal_n 98._o you_o shall_v not_o eat_v this_o body_n which_o you_o see_v nor_o drink_v that_o blood_n which_o they_o shall_v shed_v that_o shall_v crucify_v i_o i_o have_v commend_v unto_o you_o a_o sacrament_n be_v
his_o supper_n but_o s._n cyprian_n in_o his_o epistle_n ad_fw-la caecilium_fw-la so_o long_o ago_o 〈…〉_o 〈…〉_o the_o it_o sure_a that_o christ_n use_v both_o let_v that_o epistle_n for_o all_o these_o point_n be_v the_o stickeler_n between_o we_o who_o say_v do_v say_v cyprian_n word_n be_v thus_o in_o the_o sacrifice_n which_o be_v christ_n none_o but_o christ_n be_v to_o be_v follow_v therefore_o we_o be_v not_o to_o follow_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n beyond_o or_o beside_o that_o which_o christ_n do_v in_o the_o sacrifice_n which_o be_v christ_n christ_n be_v to_o be_v follow_v even_o to_o this_o very_a purpose_n use_v those_o word_n against_o which_o point_n to_o allege_v s._n cyprian_n ad_fw-la pompeium_n be_v to_o allege_v s._n cyprian_n against_o s._n cypria●_n but_o let_v s._n cyprian_n say_v thus_o much_o for_o we_o to_o you_o if_o it_o be_v command_v in_o the_o gospel_n or_o be_v contain_v in_o the_o epistle_n or_o act_n of_o the_o apostle_n to_o use_v only_a wine_n let_v this_o tradition_n then_o be_v observe_v to_o make_v short_a wine_n be_v ex_fw-la institut●one_fw-la to_o put_v thereto_o water_n be_v exit_fw-la praecepto_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la which_o upon_o your_o warrant_n be_v so_o long_o and_o so_o universal_o use_v i_o dare_v not_o break_v there_o arise_v about_o s._n cyprian_n time_n certain_a fond_a innovator_n very_o foolish_a fellow_n who_o for_o temperance_n forsooth_o use_v no_o wine_n but_o all_o water_n only_o in_o the_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o church_n these_o in_o the_o catalogue_n of_o heretic_n write_v by_o s._n augustine_n ad_fw-la quod_fw-la vult_fw-la deum_fw-la &_o in_o the_o like_a catalogue_n of_o heretic_n write_v by_o philastrius_n brixiamus_fw-la episcopus_fw-la be_v call_v aquarij_fw-la who_o say_v he_o in_o the_o heavenly_a sacrament_n offer_v only_a water_n and_o not_o that_o which_o the_o catholic_a and_o apostolic_a church_n be_v accustom_v to_o do_v the_o argument_n and_o drift_n of_o the_o afore-named_n epistle_n of_o saint_n cyprian_n ad_fw-la caecilium_fw-la lib._n 2._o epist_n 3._o be_v brief_o set_v down_o in_o the_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o church_n neither_o water_n without_o wine_n nor_o wine_n without_o water_n ought_v to_o be_v offer_v the_o whole_a epistle_n be_v for_o that_o matter_n notable_a and_o no_o doubt_n saint_n chrysostome_n mean_v of_o those_o aquarij_fw-la saint_n cyprian_n call_v it_o our_o lord_n tradition_n and_o a_o thing_n ordain_v of_o god_n he_o say_v our_o lord_n both_o do_v it_o and_o also_o teach_v it_o the_o learned_a father_n of_o the_o sixth_o council_n call_v it_o a_o order_n deliver_v to_o the_o church_n by_o god_n and_o say_v it_o be_v the_o tradition_n of_o the_o apostle_n clemens_n constitu_fw-la apost_n lib._n 8._o cap_n 17_o say_v likewise_o mingle_v of_o the_o cup_n with_o wine_n and_o water_n and_o consecrate_v it_o etc._n etc._n s._n james_n in_o his_o liturgy_n say_v likewise_o after_o he_o have_v sup_v take_v the_o cup_n and_o mingle_v it_o with_o wine_n and_o water_n etc._n etc._n s._n basill_n in_o his_o liturgy_n say_v likewise_o also_o take_v the_o cup_n of_o the_o ivyce_n of_o the_o wine_n mix_v give_v thanks_o etc._n etc._n s._n chrysostome_n in_o his_o liturgy_n in_o put_v wine_n into_o the_o chalice_n say_v and_o one_o of_o the_o soldier_n open_v his_o side_n and_o forthwith_o issue_v blood_n and_o mingle_v it_o with_o water_n he_o say_v and_o water_n and_o he_o that_o see_v it_o have_v bear_v witness_n and_o his_o witness_n be_v true_a joh._n 19_o s._n proclus_n a_o near_a successor_n of_o he_o de_fw-fr traditione_n divinae_fw-la liturgiae_fw-la say_v by_o these_o prayer_n they_o expect_v the_o come_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n that_o by_o his_o divine_a presence_n he_o shall_v make_v the_o bread_n and_o the_o wine_n mix_v with_o water_n which_o be_v propose_v for_o sacrifice_n the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o our_o saviour_n jesus_n christ_n theodoret_n dialog_n 1._o say_v blood_n say_v theodoret_n say_v not_o he_o make_v it_o but_o he_o call_v it_o his_o blood_n that_o christ_n make_v that_o which_o be_v mix_v in_o the_o cup_n his_o blood_n eusebius_n emiss_a in_o ser_n 5._o de_fw-fr paschat_n say_v that_o christ_n himself_o by_o his_o example_n teach_v that_o we_o shall_v consecrate_v the_o cup_n with_o wine_n mix_v with_o water_n concilium_fw-la carthagin_n 3._o cap._n 24._o in_o which_o austen_n be_v present_a say_v thus_o that_o in_o the_o sacrament_n of_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o the_o lord_n nothing_o else_o shall_v be_v offer_v but_o that_o which_o the_o lord_n deliver_v that_o be_v bread_n and_o wine_n mix_v with_o water_n ambrose_n lib_n de_fw-fr sacramento_n cap._n 4._o &_o lib._n 5._o cap._n 10._o affirm_v that_o wine_n and_o water_n must_v be_v put_v in_o the_o cup._n irenaeus_n lib._n 5._o cap._n when_o say_v he_o the_o mix_a cup_n and_o the_o bread_n break_v receive_v the_o word_n of_o god_n it_o be_v make_v the_o eucharist_n of_o the_o body_n &_o blood_n of_o the_o lord_n august_n tract_n 120._o in_o johannem_fw-la isidore_n lib._n 2._o offic_n cap._n 18._o beda_n in_o comment_n marci_n cap._n 14._o upon_o those_o word_n this_o be_v the_o cup_n of_o my_o blood_n anselmus_fw-la in_o 26._o mat._n alexander_n near_o to_o the_o apostle_n say_v let_v bread_n only_o and_o wine_n mingle_v with_o water_n be_v offer_v in_o the_o sacrifice_n of_o mass_n there_o ought_v not_o to_o be_v offer_v in_o the_o cup_n of_o our_o lord_n either_o wine_n only_o or_o water_n only_o but_o both_o together_o mingle_v because_o both_o be_v read_v to_o have_v follow_v out_o of_o the_o side_n of_o our_o lord_n in_o his_o passion_n io._n 19_o the_o consent_n distinct_a 2._o cap._n in_o sacramentorum_fw-la justinus_n apostol_n 2._o damascen_n lib._n 4._o cap._n 14._o grego_n niss●n_n for_o catechetico_n as_o be_v allege_v by_o euthimius_n in_o panoplia_fw-la lib._n 2._o titulo_fw-la 21._o chrysostome_n homil_n 84._o in_o joannem_fw-la &_o hom_n 24._o in_o 1._o corinth_n theoph●●ct_n in_fw-la i●annem_fw-la cap._n 9_o see_v bellarminus_n lib._n 4._o de_fw-fr sacramento_n eucharistiae_fw-la cap._n 1._o 11._o beside_o many_o other_o testimony_n of_o all_o age_n in_o both_o greek_a and_o latin_a church_n r._n abbot_n 2._o as_o touch_v this_o first_o point_n of_o mixture_n of_o water_n with_o wine_n in_o the_o sacrament_n i_o show_v before_o that_o our_o church_n have_v account_v it_o as_o a_o mere_a indifferent_a thing_n where_o it_o be_v use_v with_o that_o simplicity_n wherewith_o it_o be_v first_o begin_v the_o manner_n of_o country_n where_o their_o wine_n be_v very_o strong_a be_v to_o delay_v they_o with_o water_n christian_n will_v not_o neglect_v that_o commendable_a show_n of_o sobriety_n in_o their_o mystical_a banquet_n whereof_o heathen_a man_n have_v regard_n at_o their_o ordinary_a table_n therefore_o according_a to_o the_o manner_n of_o their_o country_n they_o mingle_v water_n with_o their_o wine_n take_v wine_n to_o be_v the_o institution_n of_o christ_n but_o whether_o mere_a wine_n or_o delay_v wine_n they_o know_v it_o make_v no_o difference_n albeit_o some_o there_o be_v that_o in_o regard_n of_o this_o sobriety_n and_o temperancy_n go_v too_o far_o leave_v christ_n institution_n of_o wine_n and_o use_v only_a water_n in_o the_o sacrament_n as_o 3._o as_o cypr._n lib._n 2._o epist_n 3._o cyprian_n intimate_v of_o some_o of_o his_o predecessor_n to_o this_o mixture_n be_v add_v at_o length_n some_o signification_n either_o in_o cyprian_n time_n or_o perhaps_o before_o as_o for_o that_o of_o ●_o of_o epist_n 1._o council_n tomo_fw-la ●_o alexander_n the_o first_o to_o that_o purpose_n that_o epistle_n of_o he_o and_o the_o rest_n of_o they_o be_v sufficient_o know_v to_o be_v counterfeit_a and_o bastard_n stuff_n but_o thus_o this_o usage_n and_o custom_n run_v his_o course_n till_o at_o length_n it_o sell_v with_o the_o rest_n into_o the_o main_a ocean_n of_o popish_a corruption_n and_o superstition_n where_o the_o father_n error_n be_v turn_v into_o pestilent_a heresy_n and_o those_o thing_n that_o arise_v of_o the_o simplicity_n of_o man_n for_o melioris_fw-la for_o august_n epist_n 119._o ad_fw-la exhortationem_fw-la aquavitae_fw-la melioris_fw-la profitable_a admonition_n and_o exhortation_n only_o as_o they_o intend_v they_o be_v make_v matter_n of_o true_a devotion_n and_o of_o the_o worship_n of_o god_n our_o church_n therefore_o see_v this_o mixture_n abuse_v in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n and_o account_v as_o a_o necessary_a mystery_n of_o christian_a religion_n without_o any_o warrant_n of_o the_o word_n of_o god_n think_v convenient_a utter_o to_o relinquish_v the_o same_o though_o otherwise_o occasion_n require_v it_o they_o have_v esteem_v it_o a_o indifferent_a thing_n and_o herein_o they_o have_v follow_v the_o example_n of_o our_o lord_n and_o master_n jesus_n christ_n who_o know_v well_o enough_o that_o the_o wash_n of_o hand_n and_o cup_n
the_o water_n to_o signify_v the_o people_n as_o appear_v by_o those_o thing_n that_o have_v be_v allege_v before_o thus_o there_o be_v no_o certainty_n or_o settle_a resolution_n when_o man_n will_v make_v mystery_n without_o the_o warrant_n of_o the_o word_n of_o god_n which_o thing_n consider_v it_o have_v not_o be_v any_o superstitious_a contradict_a humour_n but_o sober_a and_o advise_a judgement_n that_o have_v move_v we_o to_o refuse_v this_o howsoever_o long_o and_o general_o receive_v custom_n but_o the_o answ_n come_v at_o length_n to_o set_v down_o his_o conceit_n of_o the_o point_n in_o question_n be_v in_o a_o mammer_v &_o can_v frame_v his_o wit_n to_o resolve_v any_o thing_n thereof_o for_o charge_v i_o first_o that_o i_o dare_v not_o deny_v flat_o but_o will_v have_v it_o seem_v only_o propable_a that_o christ_n add_v water_n with_o the_o wine_n whereas_o i_o allege_v therein_o but_o the_o opinion_n and_o word_n of_o his_o own_o doctor_n he_o call_v for_o s._n cyprian_a to_o be_v stickler_n between_o we_o in_o this_o point_n affirm_v it_o to_o be_v the_o institution_n of_o christ_n and_o straightway_o as_o have_v forget_v himself_o he_o confess_v that_o the_o wine_n only_o be_v of_o the_o institution_n of_o christ_n and_o the_o water_n of_o the_o ordinance_n of_o the_o church_n and_o then_o again_o as_o uncertain_a where_o ●o_o rest_n himself_o he_o run_v to_o cyprian_a and_o other_o crave_v their_o help_n and_o warrant_v to_o prove_v that_o it_o be_v appoint_v by_o our_o saviour_n christ_n but_o truth_n be_v one_o and_o ●litteth_v not_o in_o this_o sort_n from_o one_o ground_n to_o another_o concern_v the_o epistle_n of_o 3._o of_o cypria_fw-la lib._n 2._o epist_n 3._o cyprian_a to_o cecilius_n which_o be_v that_o whereunto_o he_o refer_v himself_o he_o tell_v i_o 16._o i_o sect._n 16._o afterward_o that_o every_o word_n thereof_o be_v a_o sword_n to_o cut_v my_o throat_n and_o marvele_v that_o i_o will_v for_o shame_n allege_v it_o but_o this_o be_v but_o a_o popish_a brag_n serve_v to_o set_v a_o good_a show_n upon_o a_o bad_a cause_n and_o when_o truth_n fail_v to_o outface_v the_o matter_n with_o thrasonical_a word_n a_o man_n of_o mean_a discretion_n with_o indifferency_n of_o judgement_n will_v easy_o conceive_v that_o that_o epistle_n make_v far_o more_o deep_o against_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n do_n then_o against_o any_o thing_n that_o we_o do_v it_o contrari_v we_o in_o a_o small_a matter_n of_o ceremony_n which_o we_o take_v to_o be_v no_o great_a matter_n whether_o it_o be_v use_v or_o not_o use_v as_o have_v be_v say_v but_o it_o convince_v the_o roomish_a harlot_n of_o capital_a and_o deadly_a wickedness_n and_o damnable_a apostasy_n from_o the_o gospel_n of_o jesus_n christ_n for_o first_o he_o require_v water_n in_o the_o sacrament_n together_o with_o wine_n the_o one_o import_v the_o people_n the_o other_o christ_n to_o signify_v that_o the_o people_n be_v unite_v &_o join_v unto_o christ_n in_o be_v partaker_n of_o the_o lord_n cup._n and_o so_o 7._o so_o thom._n aquin_n par_fw-fr 3._o quae_fw-la 74._o art_n 7._o thomas_n aquinas_n resolve_v that_o water_n be_v no_o otherwise_o of_o the_o necessity_n of_o the_o sacrament_n but_o to_o signify_v the_o people_n be_v partaker_n thereof_o what_o wisdom_n be_v it_o then_o in_o the_o answ_n and_o his_o fellow_n to_o urge_v cyprian_a for_o their_o defence_n of_o the_o mixture_n of_o water_n and_o yet_o utter_o to_o bar_v the_o people_n from_o be_v partaker_n of_o the_o lord_n cup_n which_o cyprian_n intend_v by_o the_o same_o mixture_n 24_o mixture_n mat._n 23._o 24_o they_o strain_v out_o a_o gnat_n and_o swallow_v a_o camel_n contend_v with_o we_o for_o a_o uncertain_a and_o unnecessary_a ceremony_n and_o themselves_o froward_o depart_v from_o that_o which_o i_o say_v not_o cyprian_a in_o his_o epistle_n but_o jesus_n christ_n in_o his_o gospel_n have_v manifest_o and_o express_o command_v unto_o they_o second_o cyprian_n give_v in_o the_o same_o epistle_n diverse_a lesson_n which_o we_o desire_v to_o have_v they_o bind_v unto_o in_o the_o sacrifice_n which_o be_v christ_n none_o but_o christ_n be_v t●_n be_v follow_v and_o again_o if_o only_a christ_n be_v to_o be_v hearken_v unto_o we_o be_v not_o to_o regard_v what_o any_o man_n have_v do_v before_o we_o but_o what_o christ_n do_v first_o who_o be_v before_o all_o for_o we_o must_v not_o follow_v the_o custom_n of_o man_n but_o the_o truth_n of_o god_n and_o again_o it_o be_v not_o lawful_a to_o infringe_v those_o thing_n that_o pertain_v to_o the_o sacrament_n of_o our_o redemption_n or_o by_o humane_a tradition_n to_o change_v they_o to_o any_o thing_n else_o then_o be_v appoint_v of_o god_n and_o again_o we_o ought_v to_o do_v nothing_o but_o that_o which_o christ_n do_v and_o again_o that_o which_o it_o be_v certain_a the_o lord_n do_v let_v we_o do_v by_o all_o which_o speech_n we_o be_v tie_v to_o the_o institution_n of_o jesus_n christ_n and_o bind_v to_o do_v nothing_o in_o the_o form_n of_o this_o mystery_n but_o that_o which_o we_o be_v assure_v he_o do_v first_o to_o which_o what_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n can_v honest_o answer_v i_o can_v tell_v in_o that_o she_o have_v by_o her_o detraction_n from_o christ_n institution_n commit_v sacrilege_n and_o by_o her_o addition_n make_v a_o mockery_n of_o his_o sacrament_n set_v the_o priest_n at_o the_o altar_n as_o a_o squirrel_n at_o his_o bell_n to_o keep_v note_n and_o time_n in_o his_o ducking_n and_o turn_n and_o kiss_n and_o cross_n and_o list_v up_o and_o lot_v down_o and_o hold_v forefinger_n and_o thumb_n together_o and_o join_v together_o both_o the_o hand_n and_o put_v to_o the_o right_a eye_n and_o then_o to_o the_o left_a and_o a_o number_n such_o doltish_a and_o absurd_a toy_n but_o for_o ourselves_o we_o learn_v of_o cyprian_a by_o those_o rule_n that_o unless_o we_o can_v warrant_v ourselves_o as_o we_o can_v that_o christ_n institute_v the_o sacrament_n with_o water_n we_o may_v not_o admit_v it_o a●_n any_o part_n or_o matter_n of_o the_o sacrament_n and_o to_o this_o purpose_n the_o word_n that_o i_o allege_v before_o out_o of_o the_o epistle_n ad_fw-la pompeium_n be_v very_o fit_a be_v urge_v with_o tradition_n he_o thus_o answer_v pompeium_n answer_v cypria_fw-la epist_n ad_fw-la pompeium_n whence_o be_v this_o tradition_n descend_v it_o from_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o lord_n or_o of_o the_o gospel_n or_o come_v it_o from_o the_o precept_n and_o epistle_n of_o the_o apostle_n for_o god_n testify_v that_o those_o thing_n which_o be_v write_v must_v be_v do_v etc._n etc._n if_o therefore_o either_o it_o be_v command_v in_o the_o gospel_n or_o be_v contain_v in_o the_o act_n and_o epistle_n of_o the_o apostle_n let_v this_o tradition_n be_v observe_v as_o holy_a import_v that_o if_o it_o can_v be_v approve_v from_o thence_o it_o be_v not_o to_o be_v observe_v but_o the_o answ_n full_o wise_o and_o clerk_n like_a turn_v the_o word_n of_o cyprian_a to_o speak_v for_o he_o against_o us._n if_o say_v he_o it_o be_v command_v in_o the_o gospel_n to_o use_v only_a wine_n let_v this_o tradition_n be_v observe_v by_o which_o reason_n he_o give_v to_o the_o armenian_n who_o he_o condemn_v before_o as_o good_a a_o proof_n for_o use_v water_n and_o oil_n in_o baptism_n as_o to_o himself_o for_o wine_n and_o water_n in_o the_o lord_n supper_n for_o they_o may_v have_v say_v for_o the_o one_o as_o he_o do_v for_o the_o other_o that_o it_o be_v now_o here_o command_v to_o use_v only_a water_n and_o therefore_o that_o their_o add_v of_o ●yle_a be_v not_o to_o be_v condemn_v but_o s._n cyprian_n word_n if_o he_o will_v use_v his_o reason_n to_o conceive_v they_o will_v teach_v he_o to_o reason_n thus_o we_o read_v in_o the_o gospel_n of_o water_n for_o baptism_n of_o oil_n we_o read_v nothing_o therefore_o water_n only_o and_o not_o oil_n be_v to_o be_v observe_v so_o likewise_o we_o read_v of_o wine_n for_o the_o lord_n supper_n of_o water_n we_o read_v nothing_o therefore_o wine_n only_o and_o not_o water_n be_v to_o be_v enjoin_v for_o the_o condition_n of_o the_o word_n of_o god_n be_v this_o 6._o this_o pro._n 30._o 6._o put_v nothing_o to_o his_o word_n lest_o he_o reprove_v thou_o and_o thou_o be_v find_v a_o liar_n now_o if_o cyprian_n have_v lay_v this_o good_a foundation_n build_v any_o thing_n amiss_o thereon_o as_o in_o the_o matter_n of_o rebaptise_v it_o be_v manifest_a that_o he_o do_v while_o he_o take_v that_o to_o be_v the_o sense_n of_o y●_z scripture_n which_o indeed_o be_v not_o that_o impeach_v not_o any_o whit_n the_o certainty_n of_o that_o rule_n which_o he_o know_v well_o enough_o be_v always_o to_o stand_v good_a for_o the_o trial_n
and_o determination_n of_o the_o truth_n and_o therefore_o in_o these_o case_n to_o allege_v cyprian_a against_o cyprian_a be_v i_o hope_v no_o more_o heinous_a a_o matter_n then_o to_o appeal_v from_o philip_n overcome_v with_o sleep_n to_o the_o same_o philip_n thorough_o a_o wake_v out_o of_o sleep_n the_o drift_n and_o purpose_n of_o that_o epistle_n to_o cecilius_n be_v to_o prove_v the_o necessity_n of_o wine_n in_o the_o sacrament_n against_o the_o heresy_n of_o those_o that_o use_v only_a water_n without_o wine_n he_o refer_v they_o herein_o to_o the_o institution_n of_o christ_n set_v down_o in_o the_o gospel_n from_o which_o he_o tell_v they_o they_o ought_v not_o to_o depart_v &_o therefore_o that_o they_o ought_v to_o use_v wine_n in_o the_o lord_n cup_n as_o it_o be_v mention_v in_o the_o gospel_n that_o christ_n do_v and_o to_o this_o purpose_n be_v all_o those_o speech_n which_o he_o use_v of_o our_o lord_n tradition_n of_o his_o do_v and_o teach_v which_o manifest_o appear_v as_o by_o the_o very_a scope_n of_o the_o whole_a epistle_n so_o by_o that_o place_n namely_o where_o allege_v the_o word_n of_o christ_n i_o will_v drink_v no_o more_o of_o this_o fruit_n of_o the_o vine_n etc._n etc._n he_o infer_v thus_o whereby_o we_o find_v that_o the_o cup_n be_v mix_v which_o the_o lord_n offer_v etc._n etc._n yet_o we_o find_v not_o in_o this_o place_n any_o mixture_n of_o the_o cup_n we_o find_v only_o the_o fruit_n of_o the_o vine_n and_o this_o be_v the_o mark_n at_o which_o he_o aim_v in_o all_o that_o he_o urge_v of_o christ_n institution_n of_o water_n he_o speak_v joint_o i_o confess_v and_o suppose_v i_o doubt_v not_o but_o it_o be_v use_v by_o christ_n but_o he_o suppose_v it_o only_o he_o prove_v it_o not_o &_o his_o suppose_n be_v no_o sufficient_a warrant_n nay_o although_o he_o by_o the_o way_n admit_v and_o require_v the_o mixture_n of_o water_n in_o the_o lord_n cup_n yet_o see_v he_o there_o refer_v we_o to_o the_o ●oote_n and_o original_a of_o christ_n institution_n in_o the_o gospel_n and_o we_o find_v not_o there_o that_o christ_n either_o ordain_v or_o use_v any_o such_o mixture_n we_o hold_v ourselves_o sufficient_o warrant_v even_o by_o cyprian_n himself_o to_o do_v that_o we_o do_v in_o use_v wine_n only_o without_o any_o water_n but_o what_o mean_v the_o answ_n to_o urge_v cyprian_a at_o all_o to_o prove_v that_o christ_n mingle_v water_n when_o he_o himself_o dare_v not_o upon_o cyprian_n word_n affirm_v so_o much_o for_o thus_o he_o make_v short_a the_o matter_n as_o he_o say_v wine_n be_v of_o the_o institution_n of_o christ_n water_n be_v of_o the_o precept_n of_o the_o church_n if_o he_o can_v justify_v no_o more_o as_o indeed_o he_o can_v it_o be_v but_o folly_n and_o trifle_v to_o allege_v any_o man_n word_n that_o say_v any_o more_o and_o therefore_o all_o his_o other_o testimony_n be_v superfluous_a they_o which_o say_v that_o christ_n use_v water_n say_v more_o than_o he_o or_o the_o most_o of_o his_o dare_n say_v they_o which_o testify_v the_o use_n thereof_o in_o the_o primitive_a church_n prove_v a_o thing_n not_o deny_v or_o condemn_v where_o occasion_n require_v it_o for_o such_o reason_n and_o in_o such_o manner_n as_o have_v be_v before_o show_v albeit_o they_o be_v partly_o forgery_n as_o those_o out_o of_o alexander_n out_o of_o clemens_n &_o james_n his_o liturgy_n of_o which_o shall_v be_v speak_v after_o partly_o uncertain_a and_o doubtful_a as_o those_o out_o of_o chrysostom_n and_o basils_n liturgy_n partly_o such_o as_o the_o answ_n himself_o will_v not_o stand_v upon_o the_o validity_n thereof_o as_o that_o out_o of_o the_o six_o council_n partly_o manifest_a and_o wilful_a falsification_n as_o those_o out_o of_o chrysostome_n in_o joh._n hom_n 84._o and_o 1._o cor._n hom_n 24._o the_o former_a only_o show_v that_o by_o water_n and_o blood_n issue_v out_o of_o christ_n side_n be_v import_v both_o the_o sacrament_n of_o the_o church_n the_o other_o that_o out_o of_o christ_n side_n flow_v fountain_n of_o water_n &_o blood_n that_o shall_v be_v healthful_a to_o the_o whole_a world_n and_o what_o be_v that_o to_o the_o matter_n now_o in_o hand_n he_o refer_v i_o over_o for_o further_a proof_n of_o this_o matter_n to_o bellarmine_n but_o bellarmine_n say_v nothing_o that_o need_v further_a answer_n than_o i_o have_v already_o give_v only_o let_v i_o tell_v he_o that_o i_o take_v bellarmine_n for_o a_o jesuit_n that_o be_v to_o say_v a_o man_n of_o a_o hard_a and_o uncircumcised_a forehead_n desperate_o bend_v for_o the_o uphold_v of_o the_o pope_n to_o make_v shipwreck_n of_o his_o own_o conscience_n who_o impudence_n appear_v herein_o that_o for_o the_o better_a colour_n of_o his_o mixture_n of_o water_n 10._o water_n bellarm._n tom_n 2._o cont_n 3._o lib._n 4._o cap._n 10._o he_o say_v that_o it_o appear_v no_o more_o by_o the_o gospel_n that_o christ_n institute_v the_o sacrament_n with_o wine_n then_o with_o ale_n or_o beer_n or_o water_n only_o and_o therefore_o he_o deni_v those_o word_n i_o will_v drink_v no_o more_o of_o the_o fruit_n of_o the_o vine_n etc._n etc._n 11._o etc._n ibid._n lib._n 1._o cap._n 11._o to_o be_v understand_v of_o the_o cup_n of_o the_o sacrament_n contrary_a to_o the_o general_a consent_n of_o the_o ancient_a father_n 2._o father_n clemens_n alex_n in_o paeda_fw-la lib_n 2._o cap._n 2._o clemens_n alexandrinus_n 3._o alexandrinus_n cypr._n lib._n 2._o epist_n 3._o cyprian_n 83._o cyprian_n chrysost_n in_o ma●_n hom_n 83._o chrysostome_n 1._o chrysostome_n august_n de_fw-fr consensu_fw-la euang_n li._n 3._o ca._n 1._o austen_n 30._o austen_n hilar._n in_o mat._n cano_fw-la 30._o hilary_n 26._o hilary_n theophyl_n in_o mat._n 26._o theophylact_fw-mi and_o other_o yet_o to_o cloak_n the_o matter_n the_o better_a he_o will_v fain_o make_v a_o jar_n betwixt_o the_o father_n and_o say_v that_o hierome_n and_o theophylact_fw-mi expound_v it_o not_o of_o the_o cup_n of_o the_o lord_n table_n but_o of_o the_o cup_n of_o the_o passover_o whereas_o in_o the_o place_n by_o he_o cite_v there_o be_v not_o a_o word_n tend_v to_o that_o purpose_n it_o be_v plain_a by_o the_o two_o evangelist_n matthew_n and_o mark_v that_o our_o saviour_n speak_v of_o the_o cup_n of_o the_o new_a testament_n the_o difference_n that_o seem_v to_o be_v betwixt_o they_o and_o s._n luke_n be_v reconcile_v long_o ago_o by_o s._n austen_n as_o follow_v after_o to_o be_v declare_v but_o hereby_o we_o may_v conjecture_v the_o honesty_n and_o truth_n of_o the_o jesuit_n in_o other_o matter_n p._n spence_n sect._n 3_o concern_v bertrame_n there_o be_v in_o carolus_n magnus_fw-la son_n day_n such_o a_o one_o suspect_v for_o one_o point_n especial_o in_o the_o sacrament_n contra_fw-la identitatem_fw-la corporis_fw-la or_o de_fw-fr duplici_fw-la corpore_fw-la christi_fw-la but_o this_o book_n under_o his_o name_n be_v much_o worse_o great_a learned_a man_n be_v out_o of_o doubt_n that_o it_o be_v a_o counterfeit_a book_n wrong_v father_v and_o misbegotten_a not_o bertram_n but_o of_o oecolampadius_n coin_v so_o caluin_v catechism_n in_o greek_a in_o the_o preface_n be_v make_v a_o ancient_a book_n new_o find_v again_o so_o be_v a_o book_n foist_v in_o roffensis_n name_n write_v by_o bucer_n de_fw-fr certitudine_fw-la salutis_fw-la &_o divina_fw-la misericordia_fw-la beside_o many_o other_o such_o forge_a counterfeit_n see_v bibliothecam_fw-la sixti_fw-la senensis_fw-la beside_o this_o counterfeit_a bertram_n reason_n be_v of_o no_o force_n for_o two_o ●_z first_o how_o know_v he_o for_o aught_o he_o can_v show_v out_o of_o the_o all_o the_o and_o how_o appear_v it_o ●y_a the_o new_a testament_n th●t_v there_o shall_v be_v any_o water_n use_v at_o all_o new_a testament_n that_o the_o water_n with_o the_o wine_n be_v not_o change_v in_o substance_n or_o what_o necessity_n be_v there_o for_o aught_o he_o know_v or_o show_v in_o this_o his_o reasonless_a reason_n that_o because_o the_o wine_n be_v change_v therefore_o the_o water_n to_o for_o all_o his_o quia_fw-la admixta_fw-la est_fw-la and_o for_o all_o his_o necesse_fw-la est_fw-la but_o by_o the_o way_n he_o proof_n he_o a_o need_n esse_fw-la &_o idle_a proof_n prove_v if_o he_o be_v not_o partus_fw-la supposititius_fw-la the_o mix_n of_o water_n so_o long_o ago_o as_o ludovicus_n charles_n son_n r._n abbot_n 3._o as_o touch_v bertram_n whereas_o the_o answ_n say_v that_o he_o be_v suspect_v concern_v the_o sacrament_n he_o do_v lewd_o &_o unconscionable_o slander_v he_o neither_o can_v he_o justify_v it_o by_o any_o show_n of_o the_o story_n of_o that_o time_n it_o be_v not_o probable_a that_o the_o emperor_n will_v have_v seek_v for_o his_o resolution_n unless_o he_o have_v be_v take_v for_o a_o learned_a man_n &_o of_o sound_a judgement_n but_o he_o be_v deal_v with_o
herein_o as_o one_o joannes_n scotus_n be_v a_o familiar_a friend_n of_o he_o who_o write_v a_o book_n concern_v the_o sacrament_n to_o the_o same_o effect_n that_o bertram_n do_v he_o be_v account_v no_o heretic_n in_o his_o time_n but_o two_o hundred_o year_n after_o when_o berengarius_fw-la plead_v the_o authority_n of_o the_o same_o book_n it_o be_v condemn_v as_o heretical_a in_o a_o council_n hold_v at_o vercellae_n as_o char_n as_o lanfranc_n de_fw-fr sacram_fw-la 〈…〉_o char_n lanfrancus_fw-la testify_v who_o be_v present_a and_o a_o actor_n in_o the_o same_o matter_n so_o be●tram_n who_o be_v catholic_a while_n he_o live_v be_v now_o after_o so_o many_o hundred_o year_n bring_v in_o suspi●ion_n to_o be_v a_o heretic_n but_o the_o answ_n own_o fellow_n the_o author_n of_o the_o bertra_fw-la the_o index_n expurgat_fw-la in_fw-la ce●sura_fw-la bertra_fw-la index_n expurgatorius_fw-la do_v clear_a bertram_n from_o this_o suspicion_n acknowledge_v he_o by_o these_o word_n that_o he_o be_v a_o catholic_a priest_n a_o monk_n of_o the_o abbey_n of_o corbeie_fw-la belove_a and_o reverence_v of_o carolus_n caluus_fw-la the_o emperor_n and_o this_o very_a same_o bertram_z do_v they_o confess_v to_o be_v the_o author_n of_o that_o book_n which_o the_o answerer_n will_v fain_o make_v we_o believe_v to_o be_v a_o counterfeit_n they_o free_o confess_v they_o must_v tolerate_v some_o error_n in_o he_o as_o well_o as_o they_o do_v very_o many_o in_o the_o ancient_a doctor_n they_o say_v they_o will_v not_o whole_o suppress_v the_o book_n lest_o we_o shall_v have_v cause_n to_o say_v that_o they_o make_v away_o such_o antiquity_n as_o serve_v for_o us._n they_o confess_v that_o it_o help_v the_o history_n of_o the_o time_n wherein_o bertram_n live_v the_o book_n itself_o indeed_o do_v show_v itself_o so_o evident_o to_o be_v of_o antiquity_n that_o no_o man_n of_o any_o judgement_n or_o conscience_n can_v gainsay_v it_o yet_o say_v the_o answ_n learned_a man_n be_v of_o opinion_n that_o this_o be_v not_o bertram_n book_n who_o be_v those_o learned_a man_n forsooth_o 19_o forsooth_o bristol_n in_o his_o reply_n to_o d._n fulk_n cap._n 10._o de_fw-la 19_o bristol_n and_o saunder_n and_o some_o few_o other_o of_o the_o same_o mark_n who_o word_n be_v enough_o to_o prove_v any_o thing_n to_o be_v counterfeit_a but_o their_o authority_n be_v overway_v by_o the_o testimony_n and_o confession_n of_o those_o other_o of_o their_o own_o company_n to_o who_o these_o must_v give_v place_n for_o commendation_n of_o learning_n it_o be_v no_o marvel_n that_o the_o answ_n and_o those_o other_o his_o honest_a companion_n will_v have_v the_o book_n seem_v counterfeit_a be_v write_v almost_o eight_o hundred_o year_n ago_o so_o direct_o and_o of_o purpose_n against_o transubstantiation_n the_o reason_n allege_v out_o of_o he_o carry_v with_o it_o that_o force_n that_o the_o spanish_a censure_n in_o the_o index_n aforesaid_a think_v it_o not_o safe_a to_o let_v it_o continue_v but_o have_v discharge_v it_o from_o the_o press_n the_o answerer_n full_a wise_o pass_v it_o over_o with_o how_o know_v he_o and_o what_o necessity_n be_v there_o without_o affirm_v any_o thing_n himself_o or_o so_o much_o as_o look_v at_o the_o ground_n of_o that_o reason_n which_o be_v allege_v i_o will_v have_v he_o peruse_v it_o once_o again_o as_o for_o his_o speech_n of_o those_o book_n of_o caluin_n and_o bucer_n false_o entitle_v i_o take_v they_o to_o be_v of_o the_o same_o sort_n as_o that_o the_o thames_n stand_v still_o when_o friar_n campian_n be_v execute_v for_o his_o treason_n though_o any_o such_o thing_n be_v it_o be_v not_o for_o a_o papist_n to_o speak_v of_o it_o see_v that_o they_o themselves_o in_o counterfeit_v and_o falsify_v of_o book_n have_v pass_v all_o the_o impudence_n of_o former_a time_n p._n spence_n sect._n 4._o your_o athenian_a mad_a man_n be_v indeed_o a_o peevish_a fellow_n and_o i_o think_v they_o be_v not_o of_o the_o wise_a that_o ween_v we_o have_v no_o other_o defence_n for_o the_o mass_n but_o the_o word_n liturgia_fw-la where_o read_v you_o this_o for_o a_o argument_n the_o greek_n call_v it_o liturgia_fw-la ergo_fw-la it_o be_v the_o mass_n though_o erasmus_n in_o the_o act_n of_o the_o apostle_n translate_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d as_o they_o be_v sacrifice_v yet_o of_o his_o translation_n or_o of_o the_o word_n harding_n word_n untruth_n for_o it_o be_v a_o common_a argument_n the_o answ_n be_v ashamed_a of_o his_o fellow_n do_n so_o m._n jewel_n use_v doctor_n harding_n no_o man_n frame_v a_o argument_n for_o the_o name_n missa_fw-la except_o he_o be_v like_o your_o mad_a athenian_a it_o be_v no_o new_a devise_n to_o father_n upon_o we_o such_o argument_n as_o we_o never_o think_v of_o to_o triumph_v upon_o the_o easy_a solution_n thereof_o r._n abbot_n 4._o here_o the_o answ_n be_v ashamed_a of_o the_o absurdity_n of_o his_o own_o fellow_n for_o he_o know_v well_o enough_o that_o their_o mouth_n run_v over_o with_o these_o term_v basils_n mass_n chrysostom_n mass_n etc._n etc._n and_o that_o wheresoever_o they_o find_v the_o latin_a word_n missa_fw-la in_o any_o ancient_a writer_n they_o triumph_v thereof_o as_o have_v a_o proof_n for_o their_o idolatrous_a mass_n you_o know_v m._n spence_n that_o these_o be_v very_a currant_n argument_n with_o yourself_o and_o those_o title_n turn_v round_o upon_o your_o tongue_n neither_o need_n you_o to_o be_v ashamed_a thereof_o see_v d._n allen_n have_v teach_v you_o to_o esteem_v they_o so_o who_o take_v himself_o for_o a_o better_a clerk_n than_o you_o be_v you_o know_v also_o when_o you_o take_v those_o word_n 2._o word_n act._n 13._o 2._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d as_o they_o be_v minister_a to_o be_v a_o very_a good_a proof_n for_o your_o mass_n when_o you_o demand_v of_o i_o to_o that_o purpose_n what_o the_o greek_a word_n be_v but_o all_o these_o thing_n the_o answ_n be_v now_o ashamed_a of_o he_o tell_v i_o that_o they_o do_v not_o say_v the_o greek_a be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d therefore_o it_o be_v the_o mass_n no_o but_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v by_o some_o according_a to_o the_o phrase_n of_o their_o time_n translate_v mass_n and_o that_o name_n of_o mass_n thus_o translate_v some_o of_o his_o companion_n and_o namely_o you_o m._n spence_n deceitful_o allege_v to_o the_o simple_a &_o ignorant_a as_o a_o strong_a proof_n for_o the_o popish_a mass_n and_o this_o be_v that_o cog_a and_o cozen_a argument_n that_o i_o speak_v of_o wherewith_o you_o yourself_o be_v deceive_v as_o a_o very_a silly_a and_o ignorant_a man_n he_o tell_v i_o further_o that_o though_o erasmus_n translate_v sacrificantibus_fw-la illis_fw-la that_o be_v as_o they_o be_v sacrifice_v act._n 13._o whereas_o the_o truth_n of_o the_o text_n be_v as_o they_o be_v minister_a to_o the_o lord_n yet_o of_o his_o translation_n or_o of_o the_o word_n no_o man_n frame_v a_o argument_n for_o the_o name_n missa_fw-la no_o but_o yet_o for_o the_o mass_n itself_o the_o 2._o the_o rhem._n a●nota_n act._n 13._o 2._o rhemist_n take_v a_o argument_n from_o thence_o and_o unshamefacedly_o and_o contrary_n to_o their_o knowledge_n and_o conscience_n say_v that_o the_o word_n signify_v &_o they_o may_v have_v translate_v say_v mass_n whereof_o follow_v those_o absurdity_n that_o before_o i_o mention_v that_o the_o ●_o the_o rom._n 13._o ●_o magistrate_n be_v a_o mass_n priest_n 14._o priest_n heb._n 1._o 14._o that_o angel_n be_v mass_v spirit_n that_o 12._o that_o rom._n 15_o 27._o 2._o cor._n 9_o 12._o to_o give_v to_o the_o poor_a be_v to_o say_v mass_n because_o the_o apostle_n use_v the_o same_o greek_a word_n of_o all_o these_o which_o they_o say_v do_v signify_v to_o say_v mass_n but_o the_o jesuit_n help_v this_o lame_a reason_n of_o they_o by_o put_v to_o it_o another_o lame_a leg_n he_o confess_v that_o the_o greek_a word_n 13._o word_n bellarm._n tom_n 2_o con_v ●_o de_fw-fr m●ssa_n lib._n 1._o cap._n 13._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d import_v the_o execution_n of_o any_o public_a function_n or_o ministry_n whatsoever_o but_o yet_o in_o this_o place_n he_o say_v it_o must_v needs_o be_v understand_v of_o sacrifice_v because_o it_o be_v not_o simple_o say_v as_o they_o be_v minister_a but_o as_o they_o be_v minister_a to_o the_o lord_n for_o it_o may_v not_o be_v understand_v he_o say_v of_o preach_v the_o word_n or_o minister_a the_o sacrament_n because_o the_o preach_n of_o the_o word_n and_o minister_a the_o sacrament_n be_v not_o to_o the_o lord_n but_o to_o man_n he_o play_v herein_o the_o part_n of_o a_o crafty_a lawyer_n who_o take_v a_o bad_a cause_n in_o hand_n will_v seek_v by_o shift_v and_o fay_v to_o prevail_v because_o he_o fail_v of_o good_a &_o sound_a argument_n for_o
first_o he_o argue_v from_o a_o imperfect_a and_o unsufficient_a division_n in_o that_o he_o mention_v only_o preach_v the_o word_n and_o minister_a the_o sacrament_n and_o omit_v public_a prayer_n where_o he_o see_v he_o have_v no_o colour_n to_o deny_v that_o the_o minister_n in_o the_o exercise_n of_o public_a prayer_n do_v minister_v unto_o the_o lord_n and_o therefore_o that_o this_o place_n be_v not_o necessary_o to_o be_v understand_v of_o sacrifice_n because_o it_o may_v be_v expound_v of_o prayer_n and_o so_o do_v the_o syriac_a interpreter_n take_v it_o translate_n thus_o as_o they_o have_v pray_v unto_o the_o lord_n second_o in_o that_o he_o say_v that_o it_o can_v be_v understand_v of_o the_o ministry_n of_o the_o word_n or_o sacrament_n because_o preach_v and_o minister_a of_o the_o sacrament_n be_v to_o man_n and_o not_o to_o the_o lord_n he_o abuse_v his_o reader_n and_o his_o own_o conscience_n for_o he_o know_v well_o enough_o that_o although_o the_o minister_n preach_v not_o to_o the_o lord_n nor_o minister_v the_o sacrament_n to_o the_o lord_n but_o to_o man_n yet_o in_o do_v these_o duty_n unto_o man_n he_o minister_v unto_o the_o lord_n for_o who_o minister_n &_o officer_n he_o be_v in_o these_o thing_n to_o he_o do_v he_o minister_v he_o be_v in_o these_o thing_n the_o minister_n of_o the_o lord_n therefore_o in_o these_o thing_n he_o must_v be_v say_v to_o minister_v unto_o the_o lord_n and_o so_o the_o jesuit_n can_v not_o be_v ignorant_a but_o that_o 13._o that_o chrysost_n &_o oecume_v in_o act._n 13._o chrysostome_n and_o oecumenius_n out_o of_o he_o do_v expound_v it_o write_v upon_o the_o same_o place_n what_o be_v as_o they_o be_v minister_a it_o be_v to_o say_v as_o they_o be_v preach_v yea_o and_o erasmus_n himself_o though_o he_o translate_v as_o they_o be_v sacrifice_v as_o the_o jesuit_n urge_v yet_o notwithstanding_o in_o his_o paraphrase_n and_o annotation_n give_v to_o understand_v that_o he_o mean_v thereby_o nothing_o else_o but_o prophesy_v and_o teach_v the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o gospel_n according_o as_o it_o be_v say_v in_o the_o text_n of_o they_o that_o minister_v to_o the_o lord_n that_o they_o be_v prophet_n and_o doctor_n to_o which_o purpose_n the_o apostle_n s_o paul_n use_v both_o the_o word_n which_o he_o here_o translate_v and_o the_o word_n of_o sacrifice_v also_o rom_n 15._o 16._o grace_n be_v give_v to_o i_o of_o god_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d that_o i_o shall_v be_v the_o minister_n of_o jesus_n christ_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d sacrifice_v the_o gospel_n of_o god_n that_o the_o offer_v up_o of_o the_o gentile_n may_v be_v acceptable_a etc._n etc._n where_o 25._o where_o theophy_n &_o oecume_n in_o epist_n ad_fw-la rom._n c._n 25._o theophylact_v use_v this_o exposition_n my_o office_n of_o sacrifice_v be_v to_o preach_v the_o gospel_n and_o oecumenius_n this_o in_o bring_v man_n to_o the_o faith_n he_o sacrifice_v the_o gospel_n of_o god_n by_o all_o which_o it_o appear_v that_o neither_o from_o the_o word_n of_o the_o text_n as_o they_o be_v minister_a unto_o the_o lord_n nor_o yet_o from_o erasmus_n his_o translation_n if_o it_o be_v admit_v can_v follow_v any_o sufficient_a proof_n for_o the_o warrant_n of_o the_o popish_a mass_n but_o the_o jesuit_n know_v that_o it_o be_v a_o sufficient_a answer_n to_o his_o argument_n to_o say_v that_o in_o preach_v and_o minister_a the_o sacrament_n to_o man_n they_o may_v right_o be_v say_v to_o minister_v unto_o the_o lord_n because_o they_o do_v it_o to_o the_o honour_n of_o the_o lord_n and_o in_o the_o service_n of_o the_o lord_n therefore_o he_o think_v good_a beforehand_o to_o add_v a_o exception_n against_o this_o answer_n and_o that_o he_o do_v full_a well_o and_o learned_o if_o forsooth_o s._n luke_n have_v mean_v so_o he_o will_v not_o have_v add_v any_o thing_n of_o their_o fast_n because_o that_o shall_v have_v be_v comprehend_v under_o the_o name_n of_o minister_a for_o say_v he_o he_o which_o fa_v do_v in_o that_o sort_n minister_n to_o the_o lord_n according_a to_o that_o ro._n 14._o he_o which_o eat_v eat_v to_o the_o lord_n and_o he_o which_o eat_v not_o eat_v not_o to_o the_o lord_n i_o will_v not_o here_o say_v where_o be_v the_o jesuit_n conscience_n but_o where_o be_v his_o wit_n or_o where_o be_v the_o care_n of_o not_o discredit_v himself_o with_o his_o own_o fellow_n the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d he_o grant_v to_o import_v the_o exercise_n of_o some_o public_a function_n or_o ministry_n now_o who_o be_v ever_o so_o absurd_a to_o imagine_v a_o public_a function_n ministry_n or_o office_n of_o fast_v or_o that_o a_o man_n in_o fast_v shall_v be_v say_v to_o execute_v a_o office_n or_o ministry_n he_o bring_v the_o apostle_n word_n but_o to_o what_o purpose_n do_v the_o apostle_n say_v he_o that_o eat_v or_o he_o that_o eat_v not_o to_o the_o lord_n do_v therein_o minister_v unto_o the_o lord_n sure_o if_o in_o eat_v or_o not_o eat_v to_o the_o honour_n of_o the_o lord_n a_o man_n shall_v be_v say_v to_o minister_v unto_o the_o lord_n then_o in_o every_o action_n that_o he_o may_v do_v he_o shall_v execute_v a_o function_n or_o ministry_n to_o the_o lord_n because_o the_o apostle_n say_v 31._o say_v 1._o cor._n 10._o 31._o whether_o you_o eat_v or_o drink_v or_o whatsoever_o you_o do_v do_v all_o to_o the_o glory_n of_o god_n if_o this_o be_v absurd_a than_o his_o exception_n be_v absurd_a likewise_o as_o indeed_o it_o be_v to_o conclude_v this_o matter_n the_o disciple_n there_o assemble_v use_v after_o their_o accustom_a manner_n prayer_n preach_v of_o the_o word_n and_o minister_a of_o the_o sacrament_n all_o these_o must_v be_v understand_v in_o their_o ministration_n these_o may_v be_v understand_v without_o any_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o mass_n therefore_o it_o be_v foolish_o and_o absurd_o do_v of_o any_o papist_n to_o allege_v this_o as_o a_o proof_n of_o their_o sacrilegious_a m●sse_n now_o let_v the_o answ_n say_v whether_o i_o father_n any_o other_o argument_n upon_o they_o than_o they_o themselves_o have_v beget_v such_o brat_n &_o untoward_o birth_n they_o have_v a_o great_a number_n and_o m._n jewel_n usage_n towards_o m._n harding_n in_o this_o behalf_n be_v no_o other_o but_o even_o a_o right_n lay_v before_o he_o the_o vanity_n and_o looseness_n of_o his_o allegation_n and_o reason_n so_o peevish_a and_o childish_a sometime_o that_o they_o rather_o deserve_v scorn_n then_o any_o answer_n at_o all_o p._n spence_n sect._n 5._o that_o the_o liturgy_n of_o s._n james_n s._n basill_n &_o chrysostom_n be_v mad●_n by_o they_o who_o name_n they_o bear_v have_v be_v prove_v by_o good_a writer_n and_o by_o the_o common_a consent_n of_o long_o continue_a custom_n of_o the_o greek_a church_n so_o proclus_n the_o ancient_a bishop_n for_o that_o matter_n in_o the_o place_n aforenamed_a it_o will_v ask_v a_o long_a though_o a_o easy_a proof_n but_o what_o your_o side_n have_v say_v to_o the_o contrary_a never_o yet_o prove_v the_o contrary_a and_o be_v all_o too_o light_a to_o bear_v down_o so_o well_o know_v and_o so_o common_o receive_v a_o truth_n r._n abbot_n 5._o as_o touch_v the_o liturgy_n of_o s._n james_n basill_n and_o chrysostome_n if_o they_o be_v defend_v by_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n to_o be_v they_o the_o great_a shame_n be_v it_o for_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n not_o to_o follow_v the_o example_n of_o those_o man_n under_o the_o authority_n and_o countenance_n of_o who_o name_n they_o seek_v so_o much_o to_o shroud_v themselves_o for_o as_o i_o say_v before_o so_o say_v i_o now_o again_o that_o in_o those_o liturgy_n and_o general_a y●●●_n all_o record_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n service_n there_o be_v a_o description_n of_o our_o communion_n wherein_o both_o the_o minister_n and_o the_o people_n communicate_v together_o in_o both_o kind_n not_o of_o the_o roomish_a mass_n wherein_o the_o people_n be_v either_o idle_a looker_n on_o or_o when_o they_o be_v communicant_n communicate_v only_o in_o one_o kind_n and_o be_v seclude_v from_o the_o other_o now_o of_o the_o communion_n of_o the_o whole_a congregation_n by_o these_o record_v specify_v the_o answ_n say_v nothing_o at_o all_o as_o be_v abash_v perhaps_o in_o that_o respect_n at_o the_o manifest_a apostasy_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n from_o the_o universal_a and_o continual_a practice_n of_o the_o ancient_a church_n but_o for_o defence_n of_o their_o half_a and_o maim_a receive_v he_o refer_v i_o to_o their_o treatise_n of_o that_o matter_n where_o i_o can_v as_o willing_o have_v hear_v he_o say_v ask_v my_o fellow_n if_o i_o be_v a_o thief_n why_o do_v he_o not_o rather_o refer_v himself_o to_o the_o institution_n of_o christ_n set_v down_o
christ_n there_o be_v no_o more_o any_o offering_n for_o sin_n and_o therefore_o there_o be_v no_o true_a sacrifice_n in_o the_o mass_n nay_o say_v the_o rhemiste_n the_o text_n mean_v that_o there_o be_v no_o second_o baptism_n to_o apply_v unto_o we_o a_o general_a pardon_n or_o full_a forgiveness_n of_o sin_n contrary_a to_o the_o evidence_n of_o the_o text_n to_o the_o light_n of_o their_o own_o conscience_n to_o the_o manifest_a exposition_n of_o the_o ancient_a father_n chrysostome_n oecumenius_n photius_n theodoret_n theophylact_fw-mi primasius_n ambrose_n as_o before_o i_o allege_v who_o all_o according_a to_o the_o drift_n of_o the_o text_n expound_v it_o against_o any_o further_a offering_n or_o sacrifice_n for_o sin_n after_o that_o once_o offer_v upon_o the_o cross_n yea_o and_o it_o must_v necessary_o be_v so_o understand_v because_o the_o apostle_n hereby_o conclude_v against_o the_o many_o &_o often_o offer_v sacrifice_n of_o the_o jew_n which_o conclusion_n make_v nothing_o against_o their_o offering_n or_o sacrifice_n unless_o we_o understand_v offer_v proper_o for_o what_o be_v it_o against_o their_o sacrifice_v that_o the_o apostle_n shall_v say_v there_o be_v no_o second_o baptism_n to_o apply_v unto_o we_o full_a forgiveness_n of_o sin_n now_o see_v this_o absurd_a &_o unreasonable_a gloze_n of_o the_o rhemist_n will_v not_o serve_v turn_n neither_o can_v the_o answ_n for_o shame_n write_v it_o though_o they_o be_v not_o ashamed_a to_o print_v it_o what_o other_o answer_n may_v we_o look_v for_o at_o his_o hand_n good_a sir_n say_v he_o why_o dream_v you_o that_o we_o think_v or_o profess_v to_o ●ley_n and_o crucify_v christ_n in_o our_o mass_n his_o death_n be_v once_o and_o that_o once_o sufficient_a for_o ever_o and_o he_o die_v no_o more_o and_o then_o where_o be_v your_o objection_n to_o who_o i_o say_v again_o good_a sir_n my_o objection_n have_v not_o any_o syllable_n to_o charge_v you_o with_o affirm_v of_o christ_n die_v any_o more_o but_o prove_v that_o after_o the_o once_o die_v of_o christ_n there_o be_v no_o more_o sacrifice_n for_o sin_n and_o therefore_o that_o your_o mass_n do_v lie_v in_o take_v upon_o it_o to_o be_v a_o true_a propitiatory_a sacrifice_n and_o then_o where_o be_v your_o answer_n why_o do_v not_o your_o courage_n serve_v to_o make_v a_o direct_a answer_n to_o that_o that_o be_v oppose_v and_o if_o you_o can_v not_o answer_v why_o do_v not_o conscience_n prevail_v with_o you_o to_o make_v you_o yield_v to_o the_o truth_n i_o prove_v that_o there_o be_v now_o no_o more_o offering_n for_o sin_n and_o he_o return_v i_o a_o sléevelesse_a tale_n that_o they_o say_v not_o that_o christ_n die_v any_o more_o and_o so_o run_v on_o to_o declare_v unto_o i_o what_o manner_n of_o sacrifice_n it_o be_v which_o they_o offer_v which_o by_o the_o reason_n allege_v by_o i_o be_v inevitable_o prove_v to_o be_v none_o at_o all_o if_o christ_n body_n be_v real_o offer_v for_o sin_n every_o day_n in_o the_o mass_n than_o there_o be_v yet_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d a_o offering_n for_o sin_n but_o the_o apostle_n say_v that_o there_o be_v not_o now_o a_o offering_n for_o sin_n therefore_o christ_n be_v not_o now_o any_o long_o offer_v for_o sin_n and_o therefore_o although_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n be_v yet_o real_o remain_v in_o heaven_n ●_o heaven_n r●m_fw-la ●_o ●_o be_v raise_v from_o the_o dead_a to_o die_v no_o more_o and_o the_o same_o body_n be_v sometime_o term_v in_o our_o speech_n the_o sacrifice_n for_o sin_n yet_o be_v it_o not_o so_o call_v as_o have_v now_o the_o condition_n of_o a_o sacrifice_n for_o sin_n or_o as_o if_o it_o be_v now_o to_o be_v offer_v any_o more_o but_o only_o in_o respect_n that_o it_o be_v sacrifice_v once_o and_o by_o the_o virtue_n of_o that_o once_o sacrifice_a 2_o sacrifice_a heb_fw-mi ●_o 2_o appear_v in_o the_o sight_n of_o god_n for_o us._n in_o a_o word_n it_o be_v no_o otherwise_o so_o call_v but_o as_o christ_n in_o the_o revelation_n be_v call_v the_o knobe_n not_o to_o be_v kill_v but_o 12._o but_o apoc._n 5._o 6._o 9_o 12._o that_o be_v kill_v and_o as_o the_o same_o body_n of_o christ_n shall_v be_v call_v the_o sacrifice_n for_o sin_n after_o the_o end_n of_o the_o world_n when_o as_o the_o saint_n of_o god_n shall_v thankful_o record_v the_o sacrifice_v thereof_o thus_o 9_o thus_o apoc._n 5._o 9_o thou_o be_v kill_v and_o have_v redeem_v we_o to_o god_n by_o thy_o blood_n out_o of_o every_o nation_n etc._n etc._n the_o end_n and_o use_v of_o offer_v for_o sin_n be_v to_o take_v away_o sin_n to_o obtain_v remission_n of_o sin_n to_o sanctify_v those_o that_o come_v unto_o it_o now_o when_o this_o end_n of_o offer_v for_o sin_n be_v achieve_v there_o be_v no_o further_o use_v of_o a_o offering_n for_o sin_n so_o that_o if_o the_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o old_a law_n 2._o law_n heb._n 10._o 1._o 2._o have_v sanctify_v the_o comer_n thereunto_o they_o shall_v after_o once_o offer_v have_v cease_v to_o be_v offer_v as_o the_o apostle_n tell_v we_o import_v thereby_o that_o that_o sacrifice_n which_o do_v sanctify_v the_o comer_n thereunto_o as_o do_v 10._o do_v cap._n 10._o 10._o the_o body_n of_o christ_n once_o offer_v need_v not_o to_o be_v offer_v any_o more_o but_o that_o once_o and_o hereupon_o it_o be_v that_o he_o infer_v that_o see_v remission_n of_o sin_n be_v obtain_v by_o the_o offering_n of_o christ_n body_n once_o therefore_o thenceforth_o there_o be_v no_o more_o offering_n for_o sin_n neither_o of_o christ_n body_n nor_o of_o any_o other_o thing_n because_o there_o be_v no_o end_n or_o use_v thereof_o even_o as_o when_o 10._o when_o chrysost_n in_o heb._n 10._o ho._n 17._o ambros_n in_o hebr._n 10._o a_o man_n have_v get_v a_o medicine_n to_o heal_v his_o hurt_n it_o be_v needless_a for_o he_o to_o seek_v any_o other_o either_o of_o the_o same_o substance_n or_o of_o any_o other_o and_o therefore_o hereby_o he_o resolve_v against_o all_o whether_o heathenish_a or_o jewish_a or_o popish_a sacrifice_v for_o sin_n as_o be_v to_o no_o end_n or_o purpose_n because_o the_o end_n of_o offer_v for_o sin_n which_o be_v remission_n of_o sin_n be_v attein_v already_o by_o the_o death_n and_o bloodshead_n of_o jesus_n christ_n and_o unless_o we_o will_v understand_v offer_v for_o sin_n simple_o and_o universal_o without_o exception_n and_o without_o that_o determine_n of_o it_o to_o any_o one_o sort_n of_o offer_v which_o the_o answ_n use_v in_o tie_v it_o unto_o christ_n suffering_n and_o die_v we_o betray_v this_o whole_a disputation_n into_o the_o hand_n of_o the_o jew_n and_o heathen_n as_o make_v nothing_o against_o their_o sacrifice_v for_o sin_n because_o it_o only_o prove_v that_o christ_n die_v no_o more_o not_o that_o there_o be_v no_o more_o offering_n for_o sin_n but_o the_o apostle_n will_v deny_v not_o only_a christ_n die_v any_o more_o but_o also_o all_o manner_n of_o jewish_a and_o heathenish_a offering_n for_o sin_n therefore_o the_o word_n must_v be_v absolute_o and_o universal_o understand_v of_o offer_v for_o sin_n after_o the_o once_o die_v of_o our_o lord_n jesus_n yet_o further_o let_v i_o tell_v he_o that_o if_o he_o will_v affirm_v the_o often_o offer_v of_o christ_n he_o must_v say_v also_o that_o christ_n often_o suffer_v and_o be_v slay_v for_o throughout_o the_o whole_a scripture_n he_o can_v allege_v one_o place_n where_o the_o offering_n or_o sacrifice_v of_o christ_n be_v otherwise_o understand_v then_o of_o his_o death_n and_o passion_n and_o this_o be_v plain_o evict_v out_o of_o the_o 9_o to_o the_o hebrews_n where_o the_o apostle_n say_v that_o christ_n 26._o christ_n he._n 9_o 25._o 26._o be_v enter_v into_o heaven_n to_o appear_v now_o in_o the_o sight_n of_o god_n for_o we_o not_o to_o offer_v himself_o often_o for_o then_o say_v he_o he_o shall_v have_v often_o suffer_v since_o the_o foundation_n of_o the_o world_n which_o reason_n of_o the_o apostle_n have_v no_o force_n at_o all_o if_o there_o be_v any_o other_o offer_v of_o christ_n but_o only_o by_o suffer_v and_o death_n which_o also_o be_v manifest_a out_o of_o the_o law_n of_o moses_n where_o there_o be_v no_o offering_n or_o sacrifice_n of_o propitiation_n but_o by_o slaughter_n and_o bloodshead_n and_o where_o there_o be_v no_o shed_n of_o blood_n there_o be_v no_o forgiveness_n as_o the_o 22._o the_o heb._n 9_o 22._o apostle_n witness_v now_o see_v there_o be_v no_o sacrifice_n of_o propitiation_n in_o the_o new_a testament_n which_o be_v not_o prefigure_v in_o the_o law_n which_o the_o apostle_n say_v 1._o say_v heb._n 10._o 1._o have_v the_o shadow_n of_o the_o good_a thing_n that_o be_v to_o come_v and_o the_o law_n prefigure_v none_o but_o sacrifice_n by_o
multitude_n of_o the_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o law_n be_v take_v away_o one_o be_v approve_v in_o the_o end_n of_o the_o world_n once_o offer_v for_o the_o abolish_n of_o sin_n for_o the_o lamb_n of_o god_n have_v take_v away_o the_o sin_n of_o the_o world_n offer_v himself_o a_o sacrifice_n of_o a_o sweet_a savour_n etc._n etc._n where_o let_v the_o answ_n note_n that_o in_o steed_n of_o many_o sacrifice_n for_o sin_n there_o be_v in_o the_o end_n of_o the_o world_n but_o one_o and_o that_o one_o but_o once_o offer_v for_o the_o utter_a abolish_n of_o sin_n so_o that_o there_o remain_v now_o no_o other_o srcrifice_n for_o we_o to_o offer_v but_o thanksgiving_n and_o the_o offering_n of_o ourselves_o unto_o god_n by_o our_o reasonable_a serve_v of_o he_o let_v i_o conclude_v with_o the_o word_n of_o s._n ambrose_n 10._o ambrose_n ambros_n in_o heb._n 10._o there_o be_v now_o no_o more_o offering_n for_o sin_n for_o one_o oblation_n of_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n make_v perfect_v they_o that_o be_v sanctify_v as_o which_o work_v full_a forgiveness_n of_o sin_n therefore_o we_o need_v not_o daily_o to_o purge_v with_o daily_a sacrifice_n as_o in_o the_o old_a law_n if_o we_o need_v not_o daily_o to_o purge_v with_o daily_a sacrifice_n as_o they_o do_v in_o the_o old_a law_n then_o sure_o the_o daily_a sacrifice_n of_o the_o mass_n be_v superfluous_a and_o consequent_o no_o sacrifice_n at_o all_o by_o these_o and_o sundry_a other_o testimony_n of_o the_o old_a father_n it_o be_v evident_a and_o clear_a enough_o to_o those_o that_o will_v see_v that_o they_o know_v not_o nor_o be_v acquaint_v with_o this_o strange_a devise_n of_o a_o continual_a real_a offering_n of_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n yea_o but_o the_o answerer_n say_v further_a that_o the_o matter_n be_v so_o true_a of_o the_o father_n avouch_v this_o real_a sacrifice_n that_o caluin_n stick_v not_o to_o condemn_v all_o the_o father_n since_o the_o apostle_n of_o judaisme_n in_o that_o very_a point_n for_o establish_v a_o very_a sacrifice_n of_o the_o church_n so_o impudent_a a_o thing_n he_o take_v it_o to_o be_v to_o cast_v a_o mist_n upon_o the_o father_n word_n in_o that_o point_n if_o the_o answ_n speak_v this_o of_o himself_o let_v he_o remember_v that_o which_o solomon_n say_v 22._o say_v pro._n 19_o 5_o &_o 12._o 22._o a_o false_a witness_n shall_v not_o escape_v unpunished_a and_o again_o lie_v lip_n be_v a_o abomination_n to_o the_o lord_n if_o he_o speak_v it_o upon_o the_o warrant_n of_o any_o other_o let_v he_o remember_v this_o for_o a_o true_a say_n hereafter_o 4_o hereafter_o pro._n 14._o 15._o eccle._n 19_o 4_o he_o that_o be_v hasty_a to_o give_v credit_n be_v a_o fool_n caluin_v own_o word_n do_v lie_v open_v the_o notable_a and_o shameless_a boldness_n of_o the_o answ_n and_o his_o fellow_n in_o this_o point_n 10._o point_n institut_fw-la li._n 4._o ca._n 18._o sect_n 10._o if_o any_o man_n say_v he_o oppose_v the_o sentence_n of_o the_o old_a father_n gather_v here_o and_o there_o and_o upon_o their_o authority_n contend_v that_o the_o sacrifice_n which_o be_v do_v in_o the_o lord_n supper_n be_v otherwise_o to_o be_v understand_v than_o we_o expound_v it_o let_v this_o brief_o serve_v for_o answer_v to_o he_o if_o the_o matter_n be_v to_o approve_v the_o devise_n of_o that_o sacrifice_n which_o the_o papist_n have_v forge_v in_o the_o mass_n the_o ancient_a father_n give_v no_o maintenance_n or_o defence_n to_o such_o sacrilege_n indeed_o they_o use_v the_o name_n of_o sacrifice_n but_o withal_o they_o expound_v that_o they_o mean_v nothing_o else_o but_o a_o memorial_n of_o that_o true_a and_o only_o sacrifice_v which_o christ_n perform_v on_o the_o cross_n who_o be_v our_o only_a priest_n as_o they_o every_o where_n show_v etc._n etc._n again_o 1●_n again_o ibid._n sect_n 1●_n he_o profess_v that_o he_o see_v that_o they_o retain_v a_o godly_a &_o right_a sound_a judgement_n concern_v this_o whole_a mystery_n neither_o find_v that_o they_o will_v any_o little_a derogate_a from_o the_o only_a sacrifice_n of_o christ_n now_o therefore_o what_o conscience_n may_v i_o think_v there_o be_v in_o the_o answerer_n that_o doubt_v not_o to_o avouch_v so_o manifest_a and_o notorious_a a_o slander_n but_o he_o will_v allege_v for_o himself_o y●_z caluin_n though_o he_o confess_v that_o the_o father_n have_v a_o right_a and_o true_a judgement_n concern_v the_o sacrament_n yet_o say_v that_o ibid._n that_o ibid._n in_o actionis_fw-la modo_fw-la in_o the_o manner_n of_o their_o celebration_n they_o approach_v near_o to_o the_o jewish_a manner_n of_o sacrifice_v than_o christ_n have_v ordain_v or_o be_v convenient_a for_o the_o state_n of_o the_o gospel_n but_o this_o say_v i_o can_v excuse_v the_o answ_n from_o just_a desert_n of_o be_v brand_v in_o the_o forehead_n with_o the_o letter_n c_o as_o a_o calumnious_a and_o slanderous_a person_n for_o he_o charge_v caluin_n to_o have_v condemn_v the_o father_n of_o judaisme_n for_o establish_v a_o real_a sacrifice_n of_o the_o church_n whereas_o caluin_n absolute_o de●ieth_v that_o there_o be_v in_o they_o any_o opinion_n of_o any_o real_a sacrifice_n and_o only_o say_v that_o in_o ceremony_n they_o come_v near_o to_o the_o jewish_a manner_n of_o sacrifice_v then_o be_v convenient_a we_o know_v that_o the_o papist_n come_v near_o to_o those_o rite_n and_o ceremony_n wherewith_o the_o heathen_n &_o painim_n have_v worship_v their_o idol_n god_n then_o be_v convenient_a for_o christian_n to_o do_v in_o the_o spiritual_a service_n of_o the_o true_a god_n and_o yet_o it_o follow_v not_o that_o they_o establish_v those_o profane_a mystery_n or_o opinion_n whereunto_o the_o same_o ceremony_n be_v annex_v so_o may_v caluin_n true_o say_v that_o the_o father_n in_o ceremony_n come_v too_o near_o the_o jew_n and_o yet_o be_v far_o as_o indeed_o he_o be_v from_o deny_v that_o they_o teach_v or_o establish_v any_o real_a sacrifice_n in_o the_o church_n in_o a_o word_n caluin_n condemn_v not_o the_o father_n of_o judaisme_n but_o papist_n of_o perverseness_n and_o wickedness_n in_o abuse_v the_o writing_n of_o the_o father_n for_o let_v i_o tell_v the_o answ_n once_o again_o that_o his_o master_n of_o rheims_n though_o they_o have_v in_o diverse_a place_n of_o their_o annotation_n scratch_v together_o out_o of_o the_o father_n all_o and_o more_o than_o all_o that_o may_v give_v any_o show_n to_o countenance_v their_o sacrifice_n yet_o can_v bring_v any_o one_o place_n that_o go_v without_o the_o compass_n of_o that_o reason_n of_o the_o name_n of_o sacrifice_n which_o in_o my_o former_a speech_n i_o declare_v to_o stand_v without_o any_o true_a or_o real_a sacrifice_n now_o to_o be_v perform_v for_o set_v that_o down_o which_o cyprian_n say_v that_o 3._o that_o cypr._n lib._n 2._o epist_n 3._o the_o passion_n of_o christ_n be_v the_o sacrifice_n which_o we_o offer_v what_o term_n of_o sacrifice_n can_v they_o allege_v out_o of_o the_o father_n which_o do_v not_o agree_v to_o the_o passion_n of_o christ_n it_o be_v the_o kill_n of_o the_o lamb_n of_o god_n the_o sacrifice_n of_o sacrifice_n the_o everlasting_a quicken_a sacrifice_n the_o sacrifice_n of_o our_o mediator_n the_o sacrifice_n of_o our_o price_n the_o eternal_a redemption_n both_o of_o body_n and_o soul_n now_o since_o the_o passion_n of_o christ_n be_v not_o now_o real_o perform_v the_o sacrifice_n to_o which_o these_o speech_n be_v apply_v be_v not_o a_o sacrifice_n now_o real_o do_v but_o only_o in_o a_o mystery_n and_o by_o remembrance_n now_o although_o it_o be_v plain_a enough_o by_o that_o that_o have_v be_v already_o say_v that_o there_o be_v no_o such_o sacrifice_n indeed_o as_o the_o answ_n and_o his_o company_n do_v affirm_v yet_o suppose_v for_o the_o while_n that_o there_o be_v let_v we_o see_v what_o he_o will_v make_v of_o it_o or_o to_o what_o use_v he_o will_v put_v it_o the_o use_n of_o it_o as_o he_o tell_v i_o in_o the_o former_a section_n be_v to_o apply_v unto_o we_o remission_n of_o sin_n purchase_v by_o the_o death_n of_o christ_n only_o by_o which_o word_n he_o spoil_v his_o mass_n of_o the_o nature_n of_o a_o propitiatory_a sacrifice_n for_o the_o true_a propitiatory_a sacrifice_n even_o by_o the_o very_a signification_n of_o the_o word_n be_v that_o only_a which_o itself_o satisfi_v for_o sin_n and_o purchase_v by_o the_o virtue_n and_o force_n thereof_o forgiveness_n of_o sin_n and_o atonement_n with_o god_n now_o therefore_o if_o forgiveness_n of_o sin_n be_v purchase_v by_o the_o death_n of_o christ_n only_o than_o it_o stand_v not_o with_o the_o mass_n to_o be_v a_o propitiatory_a sacrifice_n his_o rhemish_a companion_n tell_v he_o that_o the_o blood_n of_o christ_n before_o his_o death_n be_v at_o his_o last_o supper_n sacrifice_v 20._o sacrifice_v rhe._n annot._n
religion_n by_o reason_n of_o any_o such_o opinion_n that_o christ_n be_v real_o bind_v in_o they_o or_o in_o the_o ear_n of_o corn_n or_o branch_n of_o the_o vine_n because_o then_o all_o bread_n and_o all_o wine_n shall_v have_v be_v matter_n of_o mystery_n and_o religion_n with_o they_o which_o be_v not_o so_o but_o it_o be_v make_v mystical_a bread_n and_o wine_n by_o a_o certain_a consecration_n namely_o while_o by_o the_o word_n of_o god_n they_o be_v dedicate_v and_o hallow_v to_o be_v sacrament_n and_o mystery_n of_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n the_o which_o consecrate_v &_o hallow_v the_o same_o s._n austen_n elsewhere_o declare_v thus_o concern_v baptism_n 8●_n baptism_n august_n ●n_v joha_n tri_fw-la 8●_n the_o word_n come_v to_o the_o element_n and_o it_o be_v meed_n a_o sacrament_n &_o in_o a_o other_o place_n concern_v the_o lord_n supper_n thus_o 4._o thus_o idem_fw-la de_fw-la tr●nit_fw-la lib._n 3._o cap._n 4._o we_o call_v that_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n which_o be_v take_v of_o the_o fruit_n of_o the_o earth_n &_o consecrate_v by_o mystical_a prayer_n we_o receive_v in_o memory_n of_o the_o passion_n of_o our_o lord_n now_o what_o be_v all_o this_o to_o the_o real_a presence_n which_o the_o answerer_n say_v s._n austen_n do_v grant_v not_o a_o word_n do_v s._n austen_n use_v to_o import_v it_o nay_o he_o rather_o reject_v it_o in_o that_o he_o say_v that_o bread_n and_o wine_n be_v not_o use_v in_o sacrament_n as_o in_o respect_n of_o christ_n real_o bind_v in_o they_o but_o be_v make_v only_o mystical_a by_o consecration_n where_o he_o deni_v that_o real_a presence_n which_o they_o fancy_v and_o put_v no_o other_o in_o place_n thereof_o but_o only_o say_v that_o the_o bread_n be_v make_v mystical_a bread_n by_o consecration_n as_o for_o transubstantiation_n he_o be_v plain_o enough_o against_o it_o also_o in_o the_o same_o place_n in_o that_o he_o call_v the_o sacrament_n the_o sacrament_n of_o bread_n and_o of_o the_o cup_n whereby_o we_o understand_v that_o the_o sacrament_n be_v bread_n and_o in_o that_o he_o deni_v that_o the_o church_n have_v the_o same_o religion_n concern_v bread_n and_o wine_n that_o the_o manichée_n have_v because_o it_o be_v not_o religion_n but_o sacrilege_n with_o the_o manichée_n to_o taste_v wine_n import_v hereby_o that_o it_o be_v wine_n which_o the_o church_n take_v &_o taste_v in_o the_o sacrament_n but_o the_o papist_n real_a presence_n jump_v with_o the_o manichée_n imprison_v of_o christ_n for_o they_o make_v christ_n so_o fast_o bind_v by_o consecration_n to_o the_o form_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n that_o though_o rat_n or_o mouse_n or_o swine_n eat_v the_o same_o or_o though_o it_o lie_v in_o the_o mire_n yet_o it_o must_v not_o be_v think_v but_o that_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n be_v there_o still_o even_o till_o the_o form_n be_v consume_v and_o to_o think_v otherwise_o as_o thomas_n aquinas_n say_v derogate_v from_o the_o truth_n of_o the_o sacrament_n as_o after_o shall_v be_v declare_v to_o his_o sixth_o circumstance_n i_o answer_v he_o that_o the_o lateran_n council_n be_v the_o assembly_n of_o gog_n and_o magog_n to_o set_v the_o idol_n mauzim_n in_o his_o place_n that_o which_o they_o resolve_v against_o berengarius_fw-la they_o reselue_v against_o all_o the_o father_n who_o never_o know_v real_a presence_n nor_o transubstantiation_n as_o for_o innodentius_n his_o breadinesse_n and_o wininesse_n panietas_fw-la &_o vineitas_fw-la in_o the_o seven_o circumstance_n the_o answ_n will_v not_o have_v name_v it_o but_o that_o swine_n be_v delight_v with_o mire_n and_o filth_n the_o eight_o circumstance_n also_o contain_v only_o new_a popish_a subtlety_n and_o deserve_v no_o answer_n the_o put_n in_o thereof_o and_o other_o as_o impertinent_a by_o way_n of_o explication_n of_o gelasius_n his_o word_n show_v the_o falsehood_n of_o the_o answ_n think_v nothing_o less_o than_o to_o deal_v plain_o and_o seek_v by_o frivolous_a tale_n and_o idle_a talk_n to_o lead_v the_o reader_n away_o from_o that_o which_o otherwise_o he_o can_v but_o see_v the_o nine_o circumstance_n tell_v we_o honest_o that_o before_o the_o lateran_n council_n it_o be_v no_o heresy_n not_o to_o jump_v with_o transubstantiation_n and_o then_o belike_o a_o man_n may_v have_v be_v a_o caluinist_n in_o that_o point_n as_o all_o the_o father_n be_v and_o yet_o not_o to_o be_v account_v a_o heretic_n at_o least_o he_o may_v have_v say_v that_o the_o substance_n of_o bread_n &_o wine_n do_v remain_v in_o part_n but_o not_o whole_o forsooth_o as_o perhaps_o say_v the_o answ_n some_o of_o the_o father_n and_o namely_o gelasius_n think_v a_o ridiculous_a and_o childish_a fancy_n when_o we_o show_v they_o plain_o out_o of_o the_o father_n that_o the_o substance_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n remain_v in_o the_o sacrament_n forsooth_o the_o father_n thought_n that_o the_o substance_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n remain_v in_o part_n but_o not_o whole_o what_o conscience_n may_v we_o think_v these_o man_n make_v of_o their_o answer_n why_o do_v he_o not_o bring_v somewhat_o out_o of_o the_o father_n to_o approve_v this_o fond_a sophistication_n &_o unhandsome_a dream_n but_o it_o must_v be_v enough_o for_o we_o that_o the_o answ_n tell_v we_o that_o so_o it_o be_v but_o it_o be_v worth_a the_o note_n that_o he_o tell_v we_o that_o it_o be_v not_o clear_o define_v before_o the_o lateran_n council_n what_o manner_n o●_n conversion_n be_v in_o the_o sacrament_n no_o be_v why_o do_v not_o the_o apostle_n clear_o know_v it_o or_o know_v it_o do_v they_o not_o deliver_v it_o to_o y●_z church_n do_v he_o which_o 27._o which_o act._n 20._o 27._o keep_v nothing_o back_o but_o declare_v all_o the_o council_n of_o god_n keep_v back_o this_o or_o do_v he_o deliver_v it_o to_o the_o ephesian_n and_o not_o deliver_v it_o to_o the_o roman_n &_o other_o church_n to_o say_v the_o apostle_n do_v not_o clear_o know_v it_o be_v to_o make_v himself_o wise_a than_o the_o apostle_n to_o say_v they_o know_v it_o but_o declare_v it_o not_o be_v to_o make_v they_o unfaithful_a in_o their_o charge_n to_o say_v that_o the_o church_n receive_v it_o clear_o deliver_v and_o yet_o that_o it_o be_v never_o clear_o define_v until_o the_o lateran_n council_n be_v a_o contradiction_n and_o impugn_v that_o in_o the_o one_o part_n which_o be_v set_v down_o in_o the_o other_o to_o say_v the_o church_n and_o namely_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n receive_v it_o and_o do_v afterwards_o forgo_v it_o be_v to_o make_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n a_o very_a bad_a keeper_n of_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o apostle_n especial_o see_v the_o sacrament_n be_v a_o matter_n of_o continual_a and_o daily_a use_n but_o indeed_o we_o take_v that_o which_o he_o say_v for_o true_a that_o transubstantiation_n be_v never_o clear_o define_v before_o the_o lateran_n council_n but_o we_o tell_v he_o withal_o that_o we_o be_v very_o dainty_a to_o admit_v that_o for_o a_o doctrine_n of_o truth_n which_o for_o a_o thousand_o year_n and_o more_o after_o christ_n be_v never_o clear_o know_v or_o define_v in_o the_o church_n of_o god_n and_o because_o it_o be_v no_o heresy_n all_o that_o while_n not_o to_o jump_v with_o transubstantiation_n we_o be_v well_o assure_v that_o it_o be_v no_o heresy_n to_o leap_v from_o it_o now_o now_o to_o return_v to_o gelasius_n the_o answ_n find_v a_o hole_n or_o two_o in_o his_o word_n before_o allege_v whereby_o he_o will_v fain_o creep_v out_o the_o word_n be_v thus_o there_o cease_v not_o to_o be_v the_o substance_n or_o nature_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n he_o add_v or_o nature_n say_v the_o answ_n to_o mollify_v and_o interpret_v the_o word_n substance_n as_o import_v that_o the_o natural_a property_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n remain_v though_o the_o substance_n be_v go_v a_o very_a natural_a answer_n belike_o the_o substance_n remain_v or_o there_o cease_v not_o to_o be_v the_o substance_n be_v as_o much_o as_o to_o say_v the_o substance_n be_v quite_o go_v and_o utter_o cease_v &_o only_o the_o accident_n remain_v but_o gelasius_n a_o little_a before_o speak_v in_o the_o very_a same_o sort_n concern_v christ_n and_o show_v the_o meaning_n of_o his_o own_o word_n we_o say_v say_v he_o that_o the_o propriety_n of_o each_o substance_n or_o nature_n abide_v continual_o in_o christ_n where_o most_o plain_o by_o the_o same_o phrase_n of_o speech_n he_o make_v substance_n and_o nature_n to_o import_v one_o thing_n and_o if_o we_o will_v follow_v the_o answ_n exposition_n we_o must_v say_v here_o in_o the_o behalf_n of_o eutyches_n that_o not_o the_o substance_n themselves_o but_o the_o natural_a property_n of_o each_o substance_n abide_v still_o in_o christ_n because_o he_o say_v substance_n or_o nature_n again_o a_o little_a before_o
body_n that_o he_o set_v upon_o the_o sign_n the_o name_n of_o his_o body_n that_o he_o honour_v the_o mystical_a sign_n with_o the_o name_n of_o his_o body_n and_o blood_n not_o change_v their_o nature_n but_o add_v grace_n unto_o nature_n that_o the_o holy_a food_n be_v the_o sign_n and_o figure_n of_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n and_o in_o this_o dialogue_n again_o that_o the_o mystical_a sign_n of_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n be_v offer_v to_o god_n by_o the_o priest_n of_o god_n that_o the_o mystical_a sign_n do_v represent_v the_o true_a body_n that_o they_o be_v the_o image_n and_o figure_n of_o christ_n body_n and_o make_v a_o manifest_a difference_n betwixt_o the_o body_n itself_o and_o the_o mystical_a sign_n which_o be_v call_v the_o body_n by_o all_o which_o speech_n he_o declare_v that_o the_o mystical_a sign_n be_v true_o bread_n and_o wine_n yet_o by_o consecration_n make_v figure_n of_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n and_o call_v by_o the_o name_n of_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n as_o sacrament_n be_v wont_a to_o be_v call_v by_o y●_z name_n of_o the_o thing_n whereof_o they_o be_v sacrament_n to_o lift_v up_o our_o mind_n from_o the_o behold_n of_o the_o visible_a element_n to_o the_o consideration_n of_o the_o thing_n signify_v by_o they_o as_o theodoret_n in_o the_o first_o dialogue_n show_v and_o therefore_o the_o priest_n have_v not_o in_o his_o hand_n the_o real_a body_n of_o christ_n to_o offer_v up_o unto_o god_n but_o only_o the_o mystical_a sign_n which_o represent_v the_o body_n so_o that_o both_o transubstantiation_n and_o real_a presence_n and_o real_a sacrifice_n be_v all_o overthrow_v by_o theodoret_n judgement_n now_o whereas_o the_o answ_n urge_v that_o we_o receive_v the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n theodoret_n indeed_o say_v that_o he_o beléeve_v that_o he_o be_v make_v a_o partaker_n thereof_o in_o receive_v the_o sacrament_n we_o believe_v the_o same_o and_o it_o be_v our_o singular_a comfort_n but_o this_o receive_n of_o christ_n be_v not_o real_o by_o the_o mouth_n into_o the_o body_n but_o spiritual_o by_o faith_n into_o the_o soul_n we_o say_v with_o the_o ancient_a father_n that_o this_o food_n be_v not_o the_o food_n of_o the_o belly_n but_o of_o the_o mind_n not_o for_o the_o tooth_n to_o chew_v but_o for_o the_o conscience_n to_o be_v refresh_v with_o s._n austen_n check_v that_o conceit_n of_o bodily_a eat_n 25._o eat_n aug_n in_o joh._n ●●_o 25._o why_o prepare_v thou_o thy_o tooth_n &_o thy_o belly_n believe_v &_o thou_o have_v eat_v 2d_o eat_v ibid._n tr_fw-la 2d_o for_o to_o believe_v in_o christ_n this_o be_v say_v he_o to_o eat_v the_o bread_n of_o life_n and_o acknowledge_v no_o other_o real_a presence_n of_o christ_n whereby_o we_o may_v receive_v he_o and_o eat_v he_o but_o only_o in_o heaven_n he_o make_v one_o to_o demand_v of_o he_o 50._o he_o ibid._n tr_fw-la 50._o how_o shall_v i_o take_v hold_v of_o he_o be_v absent_a how_o shall_v i_o put_v up_o my_o hand_n to_o heaven_n to_o take_v hold_n of_o he_o there_o whereto_o he_o answer_v send_v up_o thy_o faith_n and_o thou_o have_v lay_v hold_n of_o he_o plain_o confess_v that_o there_o be_v no_o bodily_a presence_n of_o christ_n here_o but_o that_o by_o faith_n he_o be_v to_o be_v receive_v sit_v in_o heaven_n that_o which_o the_o answ_n further_a urge_v of_o adoration_n be_v frivolous_a unless_o he_o can_v show_v it_o to_o be_v mean_v of_o divine_a or_o godly_a honour_n that_o be_v which_o be_v proper_a unto_o god_n theodoret_n plain_o refer_v it_o to_o the_o mystical_a sign_n but_o to_o give_v divine_a honour_n or_o adoration_n to_o mystical_a sign_n or_o to_o form_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n be_v manifest_a idolatry_n the_o word_n of_o adoration_n here_o use_v by_o theodoret_n be_v very_o often_o use_v by_o the_o seven_o interpreter_n in_o the_o greek_a and_o by_o the_o vulgar_a latin_a interpreter_n also_o not_o only_o for_o divine_a adoration_n but_o also_o for_o civil_a worship_n and_o this_o diverse_a signification_n 61._o signification_n aug._n quaest_n in_o gen._n lib._n 1._o cap._n 61._o s._n austen_n note_v upon_o that_o which_o be_v write_v concern_v abraham_n that_o 7._o that_o gen_n 2d_o 7._o he_o adore_v the_o prince_n of_o the_o hittite_n as_o the_o latin_a translation_n speak_v it_o be_v needless_a to_o use_v many_o proof_n hereof_o see_v the_o answ_n master_n the_o 25_o the_o rhe._n ●●no_fw-la that_fw-mi act._n 1●_n 25_o rhemist_n confess_v that_o this_o word_n of_o adoration_n do_v not_o always_o note_v divine_a worship_n but_o be_v common_o use_v in_o the_o scripture_n towards_o man_n so_o the_o gloze_n of_o the_o canon_n law_n make_v a_o construction_n of_o adoration_n by_o which_o we_o may_v as_o it_o be_v there_o say_v ●●n●rab●les_n say_v de_fw-fr conse_n do_v 3._o cap._n ●●n●rab●les_n adore_v any_o sacred_a or_o holy_a thing_n or_o ●_o or_o thom._n aquin_n 22._o q_o 8._o a●_n ●_o any_o excellent_a creature_n as_o thomas_n aquinas_n say_v which_o adoration_n they_o expound_v by_o have_v reverence_n thereof_o therefore_o theodoret_n refer_v adoration_n to_o the_o mystical_a sign_n must_v not_o straightway_o be_v take_v to_o understand_v divine_a honour_n and_o worship_n but_o only_o import_v a_o religious_a and_o holy_a regard_n and_o reverence_n to_o be_v have_v thereof_o as_o be_v not_o now_o common_a bread_n and_o wine_n but_o divine_a and_o heavenly_a mystery_n sanctify_v by_o the_o word_n and_o spirit_n of_o god_n to_o most_o excellent_a and_o singular_a use_n which_o reverence_n s._n austen_n ascribe_v not_o only_o to_o the_o lord_n supper_n but_o also_o to_o the_o 9_o the_o aug._n the_o doct_n chr_n lib._n 3._o ca_fw-mi 9_o sacrament_n of_o baptism_n by_o the_o latin_a word_n venerari_fw-la so_o that_o the_o answ_n can_v gather_v nothing_o out_o of_o theodoret_n to_o serve_v his_o turn_n whereas_o he_o further_o say_v that_o christ_n call_v nothing_o by_o a_o wrong_a name_n etc._n etc._n he_o show_v his_o folly_n and_o péevish_a ignorance_n sign_n and_o sacrament_n be_v usual_o call_v by_o the_o name_n of_o the_o thing_n whereof_o they_o be_v sign_n though_o in_o substance_n they_o be_v not_o the_o same_o and_o therefore_o be_v wrong_v name_v in_o respect_n of_o the_o substance_n but_o right_o and_o true_o name_v in_o respect_n of_o the_o signification_n 2._o signification_n 1_o cor._n 10_o 2._o the_o rock_n be_v christ_n say_v s._n paul_n he_o say_v not_o say_v ●7_n say_v idem_fw-la quaest_a sup_v le●it_fw-la ●7_n s._n austen_n the_o rock_n signify_v christ_n but_o speak_v as_o if_o it_o be_v christ_n which_o yet_o be_v not_o he_o in_o substance_n but_o in_o signification_n nothing_o be_v more_o usual_a either_o in_o sacred_a or_o profane_a writing_n than_o thus_o to_o speak_v without_o transubstantiate_v one_o thing_n into_o another_o christ_n say_v that_o he_o be_v the_o vine_n and_o his_o father_n the_o husbandman_n must_v christ_n therefore_o needs_o be_v turn_v into_o a_o vine_n and_o the_o father_n into_o a_o husbandman_n he_o say_v that_o we_o be_v his_o sheep_n be_v we_o therefore_o turn_v into_o sheep_n this_o must_v needs_o follow_v if_o it_o be_v true_a which_o the_o answ_n fond_o speak_v of_o the_o misname_n of_o thing_n but_o this_o be_v take_v out_o of_o his_o blind_a devotion_n and_o serve_v he_o as_o a_o reason_n whereby_o to_o seduce_v in_o corner_n silly_a and_o ignorant_a soul_n o_o say_v he_o you_o may_v not_o think_v that_o christ_n will_v misname_v any_o thing_n and_o therefore_o when_o he_o call_v bread_n his_o body_n without_o doubt_n he_o turn_v it_o into_o his_o body_n mean_a knowledge_n will_v teach_v any_o man_n that_o this_o be_v but_o fond_a and_o childish_a trifle_n and_o thus_o much_o of_o theodoret._n now_o that_o which_o be_v further_o add_v in_o my_o former_a discourse_n out_o of_o austen_n &_o irenaeus_n for_o declare_v and_o justify_v that_o which_o be_v speak_v by_o gelasius_n and_o theodoret_n the_o answ_n sly_o pass_v over_o as_o be_v too_o manifest_a for_o he_o to_o cavil_n at_o but_o partly_o it_o have_v already_o and_o partly_o it_o will_v by_o and_o by_o meet_a with_o he_o again_o p._n spence_n sect._n 13._o your_o secundum_fw-la quendam_fw-la modum_fw-la out_o of_o saint_n augustine_n ad_fw-la bonifacium_fw-la epist_n 23._o affirm_v the_o sacrament_n of_o christ_n body_n to_o be_v his_o body_n but_o the_o manner_n be_v the_o point_n for_o he_o be_v answer_n be_v s._n austen_n speak_v not_o of_o a_o manner_n of_o real_a be_v but_o of_o a_o manner_n and_o form_n of_o speak_v and_o signify_v see_v the_o answer_n visible_a and_o passable_a on_o the_o earth_n in_o heaven_n in_o majesty_n in_o the_o sacrament_n sacramental_o and_o invisible_o but_o yet_o true_o as_o for_o the_o example_n use_v in_o
fantastical_a body_n of_o christ_n we_o read_v only_o of_o a_o true_a and_o substantial_a body_n wherein_o he_o be_v like_a unto_o we_o wherein_o he_o sit_v at_o the_o right_a hand_n of_o god_n 30._o god_n august_n ep_v ad_fw-la darda_fw-it 57_o &_o in_o joh._n tr_fw-la 30._o in_o some_o one_o place_n of_o heaven_n as_o s._n austen_n note_v and_o be_v there_o contain_v by_o reason_n of_o the_o manner_n of_o a_o true_a body_n until_o he_o come_v to_o judge_v the_o quick_a and_o the_o dead_a at_o which_o time_n he_o shall_v come_v in_o the_o same_o form_n and_o substance_n of_o his_o body_n in_o which_o he_o go_v from_o hence_o to_o which_o we_o believe_v he_o have_v give_v immortality_n but_o have_v not_o take_v from_o it_o the_o nature_n of_o a_o body_n y●_z it_o shall_v be_v any_o where_o in_o that_o manner_n as_o y●_z answ_n and_o his_o fellow_n marcion-like_a do_v teach_v we_o say_v as_o vigilius_n also_o say_v 〈◊〉_d say_v 〈…〉_o con_fw-mi 〈◊〉_d the_o flesh_n of_o christ_n when_o it_o be_v upon_o the_o earth_n be_v not_o in_o heaven_n and_o now_o because_o it_o be_v in_o heaven_n sure_o it_o be_v not_o on_o the_o earth_n as_o for_o the_o word_n which_o he_o allege_v i_o marvel_v how_o he_o can_v make_v they_o good_a to_o be_v s._n austin_n in_o all_o s._n austin_n work_n extant_a they_o be_v not_o find_v they_o be_v cite_v out_o of_o the_o sentence_n of_o prosper_n and_o there_o they_o be_v not_o beda_n have_v many_o fragmente_n of_o austen_n but_o not_o a_o word_n of_o this_o eucha_fw-mi this_o l_o 〈…〉_o de_fw-fr sacra_fw-la eucha_fw-mi lanfrancus_fw-la use_v they_o as_o his_o own_o word_n without_o any_o quotation_n of_o austen_n and_o that_o write_n against_o berengarius_fw-la where_o he_o will_v sure_o have_v countenance_v they_o with_o the_o name_n of_o austen_n if_o they_o have_v be_v he_o the_o truth_n be_v for_o aught_o that_o i_o can_v perceive_v lanfrancus_fw-la be_v the_o author_n of_o they_o and_o they_o be_v his_o ill-favoured_a answer_n to_o berengarius_fw-la his_o allegation_n of_o s._n austin_n word_n which_o we_o have_v now_o in_o hand_n yet_o because_o gratian_n by_o error_n have_v make_v s._n austen_n the_o repute_a father_n of_o they_o mistake_v be_v like_o austen_n for_o lanfrancus_fw-la as_o very_o oftentimes_o he_o be_v find_v to_o put_v the_o name_n of_o austen_n and_o other_o to_o those_o thing_n which_o they_o never_o speak_v i_o will_v do_v the_o answe_n that_o courtesy_n to_o take_v they_o for_o s._n austin_n word_n only_o so_o that_o he_o will_v not_o make_v s._n austen_n in_o this_o point_n to_o be_v at_o bate_v with_o himself_o first_o therefore_o according_a to_o the_o doctrine_n of_o s._n austen_n and_o all_o other_o who_o have_v define_v what_o sacrament_n be_v they_o be_v always_o 26._o always_o aug_n decate_a chi●rud_v ca._n 26._o visible_a sign_n and_o therefore_o to_o be_v discern_v with_o the_o sense_n for_o 1._o for_o de_fw-fr d●ct_n c_o 〈…〉_o l._n 2._o cap_n 1._o a_o sign_n say_v the_o same_o s._n austen_n be_v a_o thing_n which_o beside_o the_o show_n that_o it_o offer_v to_o the_o sense_n cause_v by_o it_o somewhat_o else_o to_o come_v into_o the_o mind_n and_o understanding_n in_o sacrament_n therefore_o be_v sign_n 22._o sign_n ●x_fw-la ser_n ad_fw-la infan_n beda_n 1._o cor._n 10._o con●_n maximi_fw-la aria_n lib._n 3._o cap._n 22._o one_o thing_n be_v see_v another_o thing_n be_v understand_v by_o that_o which_o be_v see_v &_o therefore_o again_o do_v he_o call_v the_o sacrament_n 80._o sacrament_n in_o johan._n troth_n 80._o a_o visible_a word_n because_o the_o visible_a creature_n be_v consecrate_v to_o the_o sacramental_a use_n do_v in_o the_o use_n thereof_o after_o a_o sort_n set_v before_o our_o eye_n that_o which_o the_o word_n of_o god_n deliver_v to_o our_o ear_n yea_o and_o do_v as_o it_o be_v speak_v unto_o we_o also_o to_o admonish_v and_o put_v we_o in_o mind_n of_o the_o thing_n thereby_o so_o signify_v now_o s._n austen_n do_v very_o precise_o put_v difference_n est_fw-la difference_n de_fw-fr consecr_n di_fw-it 2._o cap._n hoc_fw-la est_fw-la betwixt_o the_o sacrament_n which_o be_v the_o visible_a sign_n and_o the_o thing_n or_o matter_n of_o the_o sacrament_n 26_o sacrament_n in_o joh._n tr_fw-la 26_o so_o that_o in_o diversity_n of_o sacrament_n yet_o the_o matter_n of_o the_o sacrament_n that_o be_v the_o thing_n signify_v may_v be_v the_o same_o and_o ibid._n and_o ibid._n a_o man_n may_v be_v partaker_n of_o the_o sacrament_n or_o sign_n and_o yet_o have_v no_o benefit_n at_o all_o of_o the_o thing_n signify_v notwithstanding_o by_o reason_n of_o that_o relation_n which_o by_o the_o word_n of_o god_n be_v wrought_v betwixt_o the_o sacramental_a sign_n and_o the_o thing_n thereby_o signify_v 75._o signify_v epist_n 23._o &_o in_o quaest_n super_fw-la levit._fw-la q._n 75._o the_o sign_n or_o sacrament_n as_o have_v be_v before_o say_v do_v usual_o take_v unto_o it_o the_o name_n of_o the_o thing_n signify_v as_o sub_fw-la as_o de_fw-fr consecr_n do_v 2._o cap._n utrum_fw-la sub_fw-la gratian_n note_v again_o under_o s._n austin_n name_n that_o the_o name_n of_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n be_v give_v not_o only_o to_o the_o very_a body_n but_o also_o to_o the_o figure_n thereof_o which_o be_v outward_o perceive_v but_o what_o shall_v we_o take_v this_o figure_n of_o the_o body_n to_o be_v by_o s._n austin_n judgement_n marry_o say_v he_o 10._o he_o exit_fw-la ser_n ad_fw-la infan_n beda_n 2._o cor._n 10._o that_o which_o you_o see_v be_v bread_n as_o your_o eye_n also_o tell_v you_o which_o word_n the_o answe_n have_v leave_v unanswered_a as_o also_o the_o other_o est_fw-la other_o de_fw-fr conse_n do_v 2._o cap._n hoc_fw-la est_fw-la that_o the_o sacrament_n contain_v the_o nature_n and_o truth_n of_o the_o visible_a element_n but_o by_o those_o word_n s._n austen_n refer_v we_o to_o our_o eye_n and_o will_v we_o to_o believe_v our_o eye_n that_o it_o be_v very_o bread_n now_o then_o see_v that_o by_o his_o judgement_n a_o sacrament_n be_v a_o visible_a sign_n and_o the_o visible_a sign_n in_o the_o lord_n supper_n be_v bread_n how_o may_v it_o stand_v with_o his_o doctrine_n that_o the_o flesh_n cover_v in_o the_o form_n of_o bread_n be_v a_o sacrament_n of_o the_o flesh_n &_o the_o blood_n under_o the_o form_n of_o wine_n be_v a_o sacrament_n of_o the_o blood_n and_o that_o by_o the_o invisible_a flesh_n be_v signify_v the_o visible_a body_n of_o christ_n sure_o if_o we_o take_v flesh_n to_o signify_v true_o and_o proper_o flesh_n this_o stand_v not_o with_o s._n austin_n ground_n for_o see_v flesh_n be_v not_o visible_a in_o the_o sacrament_n neither_o be_v there_o any_o appearance_n thereof_o to_o the_o sense_n nay_o it_o be_v call_v here_o invisible_a flesh_n it_o can_v be_v say_v to_o be_v a_o sacrament_n that_o be_v a_o visible_a thing_n therefore_o we_o must_v seek_v another_o meaning_n of_o the_o word_n flesh_n and_o blood_n according_a to_o the_o other_o rule_n whereby_o the_o outward_a element_n take_v unto_o they_o the_o name_n of_o the_o thing_n represent_v by_o they_o by_o flesh_n and_o blood_n than_o we_o understand_v the_o visible_a element_n which_o be_v call_v by_o these_o name_n and_o that_o not_o only_o for_o that_o they_o do_v signify_v the_o true_a flesh_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n but_o also_o as_o 10._o as_o august_n ser_fw-mi ad_fw-la in●an_n abud_a bed_n 1._o cor_fw-la 10._o touch_v the_o spiritual_a fruit_n as_o s._n austen_n speak_v in_o 1._o in_o ambros_n de_fw-fr sacram_fw-la lib._n 6._o cap._n 1._o grace_n and_o virtue_n as_o say_v saint_n ambros_n chri_fw-la ambros_n cypria_n de_fw-fr caena_fw-la d_o 〈…〉_o &_o the_o resu●_n chri_fw-la concern_v the_o invisible_a efficiency_n and_o virtue_n as_o cyprian_n speak_v be_v the_o same_o to_o the_o faith_n of_o the_o receiver_n according_a to_o that_o which_o gratian_n say_v concern_v a_o prayer_n of_o the_o church_n crave_v to_o receive_v the_o truth_n of_o the_o flesh_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n that_o some_o not_o species_n not_o de_fw-fr cons●cr_n do_v 2_o cap._n species_n without_o probable_a reason_n do_v expound_v that_o truth_n of_o the_o flesh_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n to_o be_v the_o very_a efficiency_n or_o work_v thereof_o that_o be_v the_o forgiveness_n of_o sin_n now_o because_o the_o visible_a element_n which_o be_v thus_o call_v flesh_n be_v no_o such_o thing_n in_o outward_a appearance_n neither_o have_v any_o show_n of_o this_o virtue_n therefore_o it_o be_v say_v to_o be_v flesh_n cover_v in_o the_o form_n of_o bread_n invisible_a spiritual_a a_o matter_n of_o understanding_n for_o sacrament_n contain_v those_o thing_n which_o they_o contain_v not_o open_o but_o covert_o not_o in_o appearance_n of_o the_o thing_n themselves_o but_o under_o the_o sign_n of_o the_o visible_a
of_o bread_n be_v call_v by_o the_o name_n of_o flesh_n and_o the_o visible_a form_n of_o wine_n by_o the_o name_n of_o blood_n now_o it_o be_v call_v the_o invisible_a and_o intelligible_a flesh_n of_o christ_n because_o according_a to_o that_o form_n flesh_n be_v not_o see_v but_o understand_v and_o so_o the_o blood_n therefore_o the_o invisible_a flesh_n be_v say_v to_o be_v a_o sacrament_n of_o the_o visible_a flesh_n because_o the_o form_n of_o bread_n according_a to_o which_o that_o flesh_n be_v not_o see_v be_v a_o sacrament_n of_o the_o visible_a flesh_n because_o by_o the_o invisible_a flesh_n that_o that_o be_v by_o the_o form_n according_a to_o which_o the_o flesh_n of_o christ_n appeapear_v not_o flesh_n be_v signify_v the_o body_n of_o christ_n which_o be_v visible_a and_o may_v be_v feel_v where_o it_o appear_v in_o his_o form_n to_o this_o he_o add_v out_o of_o the_o other_o word_n of_o austen_n that_o the_o bread_n be_v call_v the_o body_n be_v indeed_o the_o sacrament_n of_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n not_o in_o the_o truth_n of_o the_o thing_n but_o in_o a_o signify_v mystery_n and_o so_o make_v s._n austen_n to_o expound_v that_o which_o before_o he_o say_v he_o have_v obscure_o speak_v thus_o the_o answ_n own_o doctor_n though_o otherwise_o friend_n to_o transubstantiation_n yet_o do_v justify_v my_o exposition_n of_o this_o place_n and_o make_v it_o manifest_a that_o though_o the_o place_n be_v obscure_a at_o first_o sight_n yet_o by_o the_o common_a ground_n of_o divinity_n it_o can_v be_v construe_v so_o as_o that_o transubstantiation_n may_v necessary_o be_v prove_v thereby_o therefore_o i_o say_v still_o with_o austen_n that_o the_o sacrament_n of_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n be_v only_o after_o a_o certain_a manner_n the_o body_n of_o christ_n namely_o not_o proper_o not_o in_o the_o truth_n of_o the_o thing_n as_o the_o answerer_n avouch_v but_o only_o in_o a_o signify_v mystery_n betoken_v the_o same_o p._n spence_n sect._n 14._o for_o your_o place_n of_o chrysostome_n the_o bread_n be_v vouchsafe_v the_o name_n of_o the_o body_n etc._n etc._n for_o as_o for_o the_o place_n of_o s._n cypr._n lib._n 2._o epis_fw-la 6._o be_v such_o as_o deserve_v no_o answer_n body_n answer_n cyprian_a say_v that_o christ_n call_v the_o bread_n make_v of_o many_o grain_n his_o body_n etc._n etc._n it_o be_v very_a bread_n therefore_o which_o be_v call_v the_o body_n only_o tell_v you_o that_o the_o bread_n whereof_o the_o sacrament_n be_v make_v be_v compact_v of_o many_o grain_n and_o the_o wine_n press_v forth_o of_o many_o grape_n which_o no_o baker_n nor_o vintner_n will_v deny_v which_o be_v small_o to_o this_o purpose_n the_o place_n i_o say_v of_o chrysost_n only_o flatter_v you_o with_o these_o word_n christ_n word_n the_o word_n which_o i_o allege_v be_v thus_o the_o bread_n be_v vouchsafe_v the_o name_n 〈◊〉_d the_o ●ody_a o●_n christ_n the_o nature_n of_o bread_n remain_v why_o sir_n who_o deni_v that_o the_o natural_a property_n of_o colour_n shape_n taste_n and_o feed_v remain_v no_o catholic_a i_o be_o sure_a so_o that_o you_o see_v your_o testimony_n out_o of_o he_o make_v not_o against_o we_o nor_o avayl_v you_o any_o more_o than_o the_o paint_a fire_n warm_v the_o old_a woman_n but_o the_o place_n of_o chrysostome_n prove_v the_o real_a presence_n be_v so_o infinite_a that_o infinite_a madness_n it_o be_v m._n abbot_n and_o far_o surmount_v your_o athenian_n madness_n to_o hazard_v my_o soul_n upon_o such_o a_o testimony_n as_o say_v nothing_o against_o i_o r._n abbot_n 14._o in_o the_o place_n which_o i_o allege_v of_o cyprian_a chrysostome_n and_o theodoret_n the_o answ_n heart_n without_o doubt_n fail_v he_o for_o he_o see_v it_o plain_o evict_v and_o prove_v by_o they_o and_o that_o so_o as_o that_o he_o know_v there_o be_v nothing_o for_o he_o to_o answer_v direct_o to_o the_o word_n that_o it_o be_v bread_n which_o in_o the_o sacrament_n be_v call_v the_o body_n of_o christ_n and_o wine_n which_o be_v call_v his_o blood_n yet_o be_v vow_v and_o swear_v to_o his_o own_o error_n he_o will_v rather_o do_v or_o say_v any_o thing_n then_o yield_v unto_o the_o truth_n the_o place_n of_o theodoret_n he_o leave_v out_o quite_o who_o affirm_v that_o christ_n honour_v the_o visible_a sign_n with_o the_o name_n of_o his_o body_n and_o blood_n that_o he_o make_v exchange_v of_o name_n and_o give_v to_o his_o body_n the_o name_n of_o the_o sign_n and_o to_o the_o sign_n the_o name_n of_o his_o body_n to_o the_o place_n of_o cyprian_a and_o chrysostome_n he_o write_v somewhat_o but_o answer_v nothing_o he_o take_v that_o which_o be_v not_o urge_v and_o that_o which_o be_v to_o the_o point_n in_o question_n he_o slip_v by_o let_v he_o remember_v what_o s._n austen_n say_v 14._o say_v aug._n quaest_n ex_fw-la yet_o ●●st_n q._n 14._o he_o which_o conceal_v the_o word_n of_o the_o matter_n in_o question_n be_v either_o a_o ignorant_a person_n or_o a_o wrangler_n study_v rather_o for_o cavillinge_n then_o for_o doctrine_n the_o word_n of_o cyprian_a be_v thus_o 6._o thus_o cypri_n lib._n 1._o epist_n 6._o our_o lord_n call_v bread_n make_v by_o the_o unite_n of_o many_o corn_n his_o body_n and_o wine_n press_v out_o of_o many_o cluster_n and_o grape_n he_o call_v his_o blood_n to_o this_o he_o say_v childish_o and_o vain_o that_o it_o only_o prove_v that_o bread_n be_v make_v of_o many_o corn_n and_o wine_n of_o many_o grape_n show_v plain_o that_o he_o make_v no_o conscience_n of_o his_o answer_n but_o be_v desirous_a to_o credit_n himself_o by_o write_v somewhat_o howsoever_o but_o let_v cyprian_n be_v further_a ask_v what_o be_v it_o that_o christ_n call_v his_o body_n he_o say_v it_o be_v bread_n what_o be_v it_o that_o christ_n call_v his_o blood_n it_o be_v wine_n christ_n call_v the_o bread_n his_o body_n and_o the_o wine_n his_o blood_n now_o if_o there_o be_v neither_o bread_n nor_o wine_n in_o the_o sacrament_n as_o the_o answ_n and_o his_o fellow_n teach_v than_o christ_n can_v call_v the_o bread_n his_o body_n nor_o the_o wine_n his_o blood_n but_o because_o christ_n call_v the_o bread_n his_o body_n and_o the_o wine_n his_o blood_n therefore_o the_o meaning_n of_o these_o word_n this_o be_v my_o body_n this_o be_v my_o blood_n be_v thus_o this_o bread_n be_v my_o body_n this_o wine_n be_v my_o blood_n and_o because_o in_o proper_a speech_n that_o can_v be_v true_a for_o so_o it_o est_fw-la it_o de_fw-fr consecr_n do_v 2_o ca._n panis_fw-la est_fw-la be_v unpossible_a as_o the_o gloze_n of_o y●_z canon_n law_n say_v that_o bread_n shall_v be_v the_o body_n of_o christ_n therefore_o it_o must_v be_v figurative_o understand_v this_o bread_n be_v the_o sign_n and_o sacrament_n of_o my_o body_n etc._n etc._n to_o this_o the_o word_n allege_v out_o of_o chrysostome_n be_v very_o pregnant_a monachus_fw-la pregnant_a chrysost_n ad_fw-la caesat_fw-la monachus_fw-la the_o breadis_fw-la vouchsafe_v the_o name_n of_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n why_o do_v the_o answ_n smooth_a up_o these_o word_n and_o talk_v impertinent_o of_o that_o which_o in_o this_o place_n be_v not_o mention_v at_o all_o i_o talk_v not_o here_o of_o the_o nature_n remain_v i_o tell_v he_o out_o of_o chrysostome_n that_o after_o consecration_n it_o be_v bread_n which_o bear_v the_o name_n of_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n and_o let_v his_o own_o conscience_n tell_v he_o whether_o that_o be_v any_o thing_n against_o he_o or_o not_o when_o as_o he_o and_o his_o company_n say_v there_o be_v no_o bread_n remain_v after_o consecration_n chrysostome_n say_v the_o bread_n be_v vouchsafe_v the_o name_n of_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n the_o papist_n say_v there_o be_v no_o bread_n but_o the_o very_a body_n of_o christ_n itself_o as_o for_o his_o construction_n of_o the_o nature_n of_o bread_n remain_v that_o be_v the_o colour_n shape_n taste_n and_o feed_n without_o any_o substance_n of_o bread_n it_o make_v chrysostome_n to_o speak_v fond_o as_o himself_o use_v to_o do_v namely_o thus_o the_o bread_n be_v vouchsafe_v the_o name_n of_o christ_n body_n although_o there_o be_v no_o bread_n his_o infinite_a testimony_n out_o of_o chrysostome_n to_o prove_v the_o real_a presence_n be_v just_a never_o a_o one_o he_o decei●●eth_v himself_o for_o want_n of_o the_o knowledge_n of_o that_o rule_n which_o chrysostome_n himself_o give_v he_o upon_o these_o word_n of_o christ_n 46._o christ_n chry_n in_o joh._n hom_n 46._o the_o flesh_n profit_v nothing_o he_o mean_v it_o not_o say_v he_o of_o the_o flesh_n itself_o god_n forbid_v but_o of_o those_o which_o carnal_o and_o fleshly_a understand_v those_o thing_n which_o be_v speak_v and_o what_o be_v it_o to_o understand_v carnal_o marry_o simple_o as_o thing_n be_v speak_v
and_o not_o to_o bethink_v any_o thing_n else_o for_o these_o thing_n must_v not_o be_v judge_v of_o as_o they_o seem_v but_o all_o mystery_n be_v to_o be_v consider_v with_o the_o inward_a eye_n that_o be_v to_o say_v spiritual_o the_o forge_n of_o this_o lesson_n make_v the_o answ_n to_o play_v the_o athenian_a mad_a man_n so_o that_o wheresoever_o he_o hear_v of_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n in_o the_o sacrament_n he_o dream_v of_o his_o real_a and_o carnal_a presence_n wheresoever_o he_o read_v of_o eat_v the_o flesh_n and_o drink_v the_o blood_n of_o christ_n he_o imagine_v his_o carnal_a and_o capernaitish_a feed_n but_o let_v he_o understand_v chrysostom_n by_o chrysostom_n own_o rule_n and_o he_o shall_v find_v nothing_o in_o he_o to_o stand_v he_o in_o any_o steed_n for_o these_o gross_a conceit_n p._n spence_n sect._n 15._o your_o place_n of_o s._n cyprian_n our_o lord_n give_v at_o his_o supper_n bread_n and_o wine_n etc._n etc._n de_fw-fr unctio_fw-la chrismat_n beside_o many_o other_o place_n of_o s._n cyprian_a prove_v the_o real_a presence_n mark_v this_o place_n unmaym_v and_o tell_v i_o what_o you_o think_v of_o it_o and_o how_o you_o wine_n you_o i_o like_v it_o very_o well_o for_o he_o say_v plain_o that_o christ_n at_o his_o last_o supper_n give_v to_o his_o disciple_n with_o his_o own_o hand_n bread_n and_o wine_n like_v it_o but_o yet_o you_o make_v i_o marvel_v what_o you_o make_v in_o this_o sermon_n prowl_a for_o a_o testimony_n where_o the_o sermon_n itself_o be_v whole_o against_o you_o have_v you_o in_o your_o church_n the_o use_n teach_v use_n we_o neither_o have_v it_o nor_o care_n to_o have_v it_o because_o christ_n have_v not_o teach_v of_o chrism_n so_o much_o in_o this_o sermon_n commend_v have_v you_o retain_v remordet_fw-la retain_v d●gma_fw-la tuum_fw-la ●●rdet_fw-la cum_fw-la te_fw-la tua_fw-la cu●pa_fw-la remordet_fw-la any_o shadow_n of_o the_o public_a and_o general_a reconciliation_n of_o sinner_n speak_v of_o he_o in_o this_o sermon_n do_v by_o the_o church_n with_o music_n and_o common_a jubilation_n and_o reioycing_n of_o the_o whole_a multitude_n in_o their_o reconciliation_n as_o here_o s._n cyprian_a if_o you_o will_v admit_v he_o for_o the_o author_n of_o these_o sermon_n wonderful_a gallant_o set_v out_o and_o withal_o do_v you_o like_v of_o this_o thing_n m._n abbot_n that_o he_o say_v that_o it_o be_v do_v in_o that_o time_n by_o public_a order_n of_o the_o church_n when_o christ_n as_o he_o utter_v it_o bring_v out_o the_o prisoner_n from_o hell_n or_o as_o he_o say_v a_o little_a before_o when_o as_o descend_v to_o hell_n he_o turn_v the_o old_a captivity_n and_o lead_v it_o captive_a or_o do_v you_o like_v of_o this_o point_n that_o he_o leave_v this_o example_n to_o his_o church_n by_o tradition_n yet_o continue_v that_o there_o shall_v be_v in_o the_o church_n absolution_n of_o sinner_n think_v you_o christ_n descend_v into_o hell_n i_o doubt_v you_o do_v not_o except_o in_o that_o most_o pitiful_a damnable_a sort_n to_o speak_v no_o worse_o of_o it_o which_o man_n which_o it_o be_v horror_n to_o the_o papist_n which_o be_v the_o special_a comfort_n of_o a_o true_a christian_n man_n with_o horror_n i_o must_v remember_v that_o he_o shall_v suffer_v hell_n torment_n himself_o upon_o the_o cross_n what_o mean_v you_o then_o to_o put_v we_o in_o mind_n of_o this_o book_n so_o much_o condemn_v your_o practice_n and_o so_o notorious_o testify_v the_o ancient_a custom_n of_o hallow_v of_o the_o oil_n upon_o this_o time_n of_o christ_n passion_n to_o serve_v for_o all_o the_o year_n after_o and_o yet_o the_o father_n forsooth_o be_v you_o against_o us._n i_o oppose_v nothing_o but_o wish_v to_o be_v quiet_a else_o you_o may_v hear_v whether_o they_o speak_v for_o us._n thus_o then_o to_o the_o place_n he_o have_v show_v before_o that_o the_o sacrament_n one_o of_o the_o which_o he_o make_v unction_n by_o express_a word_n do_v work_v our_o join_n to_o christ_n &_o for_o that_o conjunction_n sake_n he_o infer_v our_o lord_n then_o at_o the_o table_n where_o he_o eat_v his_o last_o supper_n with_o his_o apostle_n give_v with_o his_o own_o hand_n bread_n and_o wine_n but_o upon_o the_o cross_n he_o yield_v his_o body_n to_o be_v wound_v by_o the_o hand_n of_o the_o soldier_n but_o why_o or_o how_o to_o give_v they_o bare_a bread_n no_o but_o ●hat_n sincere_a truth_n and_o true_a sincerity_n be_v more_o secret_o imprint_v in_o the_o apostle_n shall_v declare_v unto_o the_o nation_n what_o that_o the_o sacrament_n be_v bare_a same_o bare_a not_o so_o but_o that_o be_v in_o t●en_o own_o nature_n but_o only_o common_a creature_n ●read_n &_o wine_n yet_o by_o grace_n and_o by_o the_o word_n of_o god_n they_o be_v to_o our_o faith_n not_o only_o in_o name_n but_o in_o power_n the_o flesh_n &_o blood_n of_o christ_n the_o pledge_n of_o the_o grace_n of_o god_n the_o assurance_n of_o our_o immortality_n the_o seal_n of_o our_o redemption_n and_o as_o it_o be_v vessel_n wherein_o god_n set_v before_o we_o all_o his_o promise_n of_o blessing_n that_o we_o may_v receive_v and_o enjoy_v the_o same_o bread_n and_o wine_n a_o deep_a high_a point_n forsooth_o in_o such_o secret_a figurative_a sort_n to_o be_v show_v no_o m._n abbot_n they_o shall_v show_v the_o nation_n how_o wine_n and_o bread_n be_v the_o flesh_n and_o blood_n and_o in_o what_o sort_n the_o cause_n agree_v to_o the_o effect_n and_o diverse_a name_n or_o kind_n be_v reduce_v or_o bring_v to_o one_o essence_n do_v you_o hear_v essence_n they_o be_v bring_v to_o one_o essence_n or_o one_o substance_n help_v that_o sore_o if_o you_o can_v with_o all_o your_o cunning_n and_o the_o sign_n and_o the_o thing_n signify_v be_v reckon_v by_o the_o same_o name_n and_o he_o have_v tell_v you_o why_o they_o shall_v be_v call_v by_o one_o name_n because_o as_o he_o say_v before_o with_o the_o same_o breath_n they_o be_v bring_v to_o one_o essence_n in_o the_o next_o period_n he_o term_v the_o sacrament_n signification_n sacrament_n not_o because_o of_o the_o substance_n of_o i●_n but_o because_o of_o the_o mystery_n and_o signification_n the_o tree_n of_o life_n read_v what_o our_o side_n do_v tell_v you_o upon_o this_o and_o infinite_a such_o place_n in_o their_o book_n which_o my_o simpleness_n be_v not_o worthy_a to_o bear_v or_o touch_v and_o yet_o you_o oppose_v i_o &_o will_v my_o answer_n as_o though_o the_o credit_n of_o the_o cause_n hang_v whole_o upon_o my_o small_a skill_n and_o learning_n or_o as_o though_o i_o must_v not_o believe_v the_o catholic_a religion_n except_o i_o be_v a_o doctor_n in_o the_o same_o r._n abbot_n 15._o the_o answerer_n be_v wéery_v as_o it_o seem_v with_o the_o evidence_n of_o the_o testimony_n cite_v against_o he_o and_o therefore_o desirous_a to_o take_v breath_n a_o while_n make_v a_o idle_a vagary_n in_o answer_v this_o place_n of_o chri●matis_fw-la of_o c●prian_n de_fw-fr unct_n chri●matis_fw-la cyprian_a and_o urge_v i_o with_o other_o matter_n contain_v and_o commend_v in_o that_o sermon_n which_o he_o say_v be_v not_o use_v or_o receive_v in_o our_o church_n as_o chrism_n absolution_n the_o descend_v of_o christ_n into_o hell_n but_o i_o marvel_v whether_o he_o be_v well_o advise_v or_o not_o when_o he_o write_v these_o thing_n or_o whether_o he_o understand_v what_o cyprian_n say_v to_o answer_v to_o they_o in_o order_n first_o he_o demand_v have_v you_o in_o your_o church_n the_o use_n of_o chrism_n so_o much_o in_o this_o sermon_n commend_v he_o bring_v no_o reason_n whereby_o to_o prove_v any_o necessity_n of_o chrism_n and_o therefore_o it_o may_v be_v sufficient_a to_o answer_v he_o with_o the_o like_a demand_n have_v you_o in_o your_o church_n of_o room_n the_o custom_n of_o wash_v each_o other_o foot_n upon_o maundy_a thursday_n so_o much_o commend_v in_o this_o sermon_n and_o which_o you_o be_v here_o tell_v that_o christ_n instituit_fw-la christ_n h●●_n sole●●i_fw-fr d_o 〈…〉_o tione_fw-la omni_fw-la tempore_fw-la a●endum_fw-la instituit_fw-la institute_v to_o be_v always_o do_v with_o solemn_a devotion_n in_o the_o use_n whereof_o saint_n 1._o saint_n ambros_n de_fw-fr sacram_fw-la lib._n 3._o cap._n 1._o ambrose_n also_o think_v that_o his_o church_n of_o milan_n do_v more_o right_o than_o the_o old_a church_n of_o room_n in_o not_o use_v it_o he_o will_v say_v the_o they_o have_v lawful_o refuse_v this_o we_o say_v that_o we_o have_v as_o lawful_o refuse_v the_o other_o these_o be_v arbitrary_a and_o indifferent_a ceremony_n take_v up_o by_o the_o will_n of_o man_n and_o by_o the_o will_n of_o man_n and_o by_o the_o liberty_n of_o man_n to_o be_v refuse_v again_o hiera●_n again_o sta●ulen_n in_o d●oni_n account_n eccle._n hiera●_n stapulensis_n upon_o dyonisius_n note_v many_o
and_o break_v he_o as_o the_o prophet_n speak_v and_o as_o it_o be_v lead_v out_o his_o army_n against_o he_o he_o in_o the_o mean_a time_n hold_v fast_o still_o upon_o god_n to_o be_v his_o god_n who_o will_v bring_v he_o back_o from_o these_o gate_n of_o death_n when_o he_o have_v finish_v the_o work_n that_o be_v give_v he_o to_o do_v but_o yet_o feel_v nothing_o for_o the_o present_a whereby_o he_o may_v appear_v to_o be_v his_o god_n but_o what_o can_v i_o say_v more_o of_o this_o speech_n of_o christ_n then_o ferus_fw-la have_v say_v a_o man_n by_o profession_n of_o the_o church_n of_o room_n yet_o in_o many_o thing_n not_o so_o gross_a as_o romanist_n common_o be_v write_v upon_o these_o word_n of_o christ_n he_o say_v thus_o 27._o thus_o ferus_fw-la in_o matt_n 27._o here_o god_n the_o father_n deal_v with_o christ_n not_o as_o a_o father_n but_o as_o a_o tyrant_n although_o he_o be_v in_o the_o mean_a time_n of_o most_o love_a affection_n towards_o he_o this_o christ_n be_v forsake_v be_v the_o dread_n of_o our_o conscience_n for_o our_o sin_n feel_v the_o judgement_n of_o god_n and_o his_o eternal_a wrath_n and_o be_v so_o affect_v as_o if_o it_o be_v for_o ever_o forsake_v and_o reject_v from_o the_o face_n of_o god_n christ_n of_o his_o mercy_n put_v himself_o into_o our_o cause_n and_o undertake_v the_o punishment_n that_o we_o have_v deserve_v therefore_o on_o the_o one_o side_n we_o see_v the_o people_n revile_v he_o the_o pharisee_n blaspheme_v he_o etc._n etc._n on_o the_o other_o side_n we_o see_v god_n as_o a_o adversary_n forsake_v he_o so_o that_o he_o cry_v out_o why_o have_v thou_o forsake_v i_o christ_n to_o deliver_v sinner_n set_v himself_o in_o place_n of_o all_o sinner_n not_o play_v the_o thief_n or_o adulterer_n &c_n &c_n but_o transfer_v unto_o himself_o the_o stipend_n and_o wage_n the_o punishment_n and_o desert_n of_o sinner_n as_o cold_a heat_n hunger_n thirst_n fear_v tremble_a the_o horror_n of_o death_n the_o horror_n of_o hell_n despair_n death_n hell_n itself_o that_o by_o fear_n he_o may_v overcome_v fear_n by_o horror_n despair_n death_n hell_n may_v overcome_v horror_n despair_n death_n hell_n and_o in_o a_o word_n by_o satan_n may_v overcome_v satan_n thus_o by_o the_o testimony_n of_o one_o of_o their_o own_o prophet_n it_o be_v justify_v that_o christ_n jesus_n suffer_v not_o only_o a_o bodily_a death_n but_o also_o in_o his_o soul_n the_o weight_n of_o his_o father_n indignation_n and_o the_o very_a horror_n of_o hell_n itself_o when_o he_o cry_v out_o and_o complain_v in_o that_o manner_n as_o have_v be_v declare_v and_o this_o be_v that_o which_o the_o scripture_n mean_v when_o it_o say_v that_o 13._o that_o gal._n 3._o 13._o christ_n be_v make_v a_o curse_n for_o we_o to_o deliver_v we_o from_o the_o curse_n for_o as_o to_o be_v make_v sin_n for_o we_o import_v that_o he_o do_v bear_v the_o punishment_n of_o our_o sin_n so_o to_o be_v make_v a_o curse_n for_o we_o import_v that_o he_o do_v bear_v the_o burden_n of_o our_o curse_n that_o be_v to_o say_v the_o full_a measure_n of_o the_o wrath_n of_o god_n that_o otherwise_o shall_v have_v light_v upon_o us._n the_o father_n thought_n no_o less_o when_o they_o construe_v the_o 88_o psalm_n or_o the_o 87._o as_o they_o reckon_v it_o to_o be_v the_o description_n of_o the_o passion_n of_o christ_n where_o we_o read_v thus_o 16._o thus_o psal_n 88_o 7._o 1._o 16._o thy_o indignation_n be_v set_v against_o i_o or_o lie_v hard_o upon_o i_o and_o thou_o have_v vex_v i_o with_o all_o thy_o storm_n lord_n why_o abhor_v thou_o my_o soul_n thy_o wrathful_a displeasure_n go_v over_o i_o and_o the_o fear_n of_o thou_o have_v undo_v i_o so_o be_v that_o psal_n apply_v by_o 87._o by_o athan._n de_fw-mi interpret_v psalm_n arnob._n &_o hieron_n in_o psal_n 87._o athanasius_n arnobius_n and_o hierome_n austen_n also_o call_v the_o same_o 87._o same_o august_n in_o psalm_n 87._o a_o song_n of_o the_o passion_n of_o christ_n though_o turn_v the_o word_n allege_v to_o another_o intention_n than_o they_o do_v manifest_o intimate_v unto_o us._n athanasius_n refer_v himself_o to_o those_o word_n thy_o fury_n or_o indignation_n be_v set_v against_o i_o say_v psal_n say_v athanas_n de_fw-fr inter_fw-la psal_n christ_n die_v not_o for_o that_o he_o be_v guilty_a of_o sinnne_n himself_o but_o he_o suffer_v for_o we_o and_o in_o himself_o do_v bear_v the_o wrath_n that_o be_v conceive_v against_o we_o for_o sin_n even_o as_o he_o say_v elsewhere_o domi_fw-la elsewhere_o idem_fw-la in_o euangel_n de_fw-fr pas_fw-fr &_o cruse_a domi_fw-la that_o he_o take_v the_o bitterness_n of_o that_o wrath_n which_o arise_v by_o the_o transgression_n of_o the_o law_n and_o swallow_v it_o up_o and_o so_o make_v it_o void_a so_o 87._o so_o hieron_n in_o psal_n 87._o hierome_n bring_v in_o our_o saviour_n speak_v out_o of_o these_o former_a word_n of_o the_o psalm_n in_o this_o sort_n thou_o have_v bring_v upon_o i_o that_o wrath_n and_o storm_n of_o thy_o fury_n and_o indignation_n which_o thou_o will_v have_v pour_v out_o upon_o the_o nation_n because_o i_o have_v take_v upon_o i_o their_o sin_n yea_o hilary_n though_o 10._o though_o hilar._n de_fw-fr trinit_fw-la lib_n 10._o elsewhere_o in_o heat_n of_o contention_n with_o a_o heretic_n he_o seem_v utter_o to_o deny_v all_o passion_n and_o suffering_n of_o christ_n who_o very_a opinion_n in_o effect_n i_o take_v it_o to_o be_v which_o 10._o which_o ambros_n in_o luc._n cap._n 22._o lib._n 10._o s._n ambros_n reprove_v write_v upon_o luke_n yet_o in_o his_o more_o advise_a speech_n of_o sermon_n upon_o one_o of_o the_o psalm_n he_o give_v a_o notable_a testimony_n to_o this_o truth_n christ_n 68_o christ_n hilar._n in_o psa_n 68_o become_v subject_a to_o the_o death_n of_o the_o cross_n the_o water_n come_v in_o even_o unto_o his_o soul_n when_o the_o violence_n of_o all_o suffering_n beak_n forth_o even_o to_o the_o death_n of_o the_o soul_n by_o and_o by_o after_o he_o show_v his_o mind_n more_o plain_o he_o descend_v even_o to_o the_o depth_n not_o of_o the_o flesh_n only_o but_o of_o death_n itself_o and_o all_o the_o terror_n of_o that_o tempest_n which_o rage_v against_o we_o light_v upon_o he_o thus_o therefore_o it_o be_v evident_a both_o by_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o scripture_n and_o by_o the_o consent_n of_o the_o ancient_a father_n that_o christ_n suffer_v for_o we_o not_o only_o in_o body_n but_o also_o in_o soul_n &_o that_o his_o suffering_n in_o soul_n be_v the_o endure_a of_o the_o uttermost_a of_o that_o tempest_n of_o the_o wrath_n of_o god_n which_o shall_v have_v fall_v upon_o we_o for_o sin_n which_o indeed_o shall_v have_v oppress_v we_o infinite_o and_o without_o end_n because_o the_o infinite_a majesty_n of_o god_n who_o we_o have_v offend_v require_v a_o infinite_a satisfaction_n for_o the_o offence_n and_o the_o same_o can_v not_o be_v yield_v by_o we_o but_o by_o infinite_a and_o endless_a bear_n of_o his_o wrath_n but_o it_o neither_o will_v nor_o may_v hold_v christ_n in_o that_o sort_n because_o the_o infiniteness_n of_o the_o time_n be_v recompense_v by_o the_o infiniteness_n of_o the_o person_n who_o be_v not_o only_a man_n but_o god_n also_o now_o whereas_o it_o be_v urge_v that_o one_o drop_n of_o the_o blood_n of_o christ_n be_v sufficient_a to_o redeem_v the_o world_n i_o answer_v that_o it_o be_v folly_n hereof_o to_o conclude_v that_o he_o suffer_v not_o in_o his_o soul_n for_o we_o and_o with_o as_o good_a reason_n they_o may_v conclude_v that_o he_o be_v not_o crown_v with_o thorn_n spit_v upon_o mock_v and_o revile_v etc._n etc._n yea_o the_o he_o die_v not_o at_o all_o nor_o shed_v any_o more_o but_o one_o drop_n of_o blood_n we_o be_v not_o to_o stand_v upon_o the_o fancy_n of_o man_n what_o they_o will_v think_v enough_o to_o redeem_v we_o but_o we_o must_v learn_v in_o the_o word_n of_o god_n what_o the_o lord_n have_v do_v for_o we_o that_o we_o may_v according_o admire_v his_o mercy_n and_o goodness_n and_o sing_v thanks_o and_o praise_n unto_o he_o now_o that_o thus_o christ_n descend_v into_o hell_n i_o know_v that_o otherwise_o he_o descend_v into_o hell_n though_o i_o stand_v not_o to_o deny_v it_o yet_o i_o dare_v not_o affirm_v it_o neither_o be_v it_o any_o pitiful_a &_o damnable_a and_o horrible_a matter_n to_o avouch_v this_o but_o it_o be_v a_o truth_n to_o be_v profess_v and_o comfortable_a to_o be_v beléeve_v and_o the_o answe_n in_o so_o condemn_v it_o do_v but_o as_o s._n peter_n say_v 12._o say_v ●_o pet._n 2._o 12._o speak_v evil_a of_o those_o thing_n which_o he_o know_v not_o now_o by_o this_o descend_v of_o christ_n into_o hell_n
he_o have_v set_v we_o free_a who_o be_v otherwise_o prisoner_n of_o hell_n and_o bondslave_n to_o the_o devil_n and_o so_o according_a to_o the_o word_n of_o cyprian_a he_o have_v turn_v our_o captivity_n wherewith_o we_o be_v take_v of_o old_a by_o the_o transgression_n of_o our_o father_n adam_n and_o have_v dispatch_v from_o we_o the_o torment_n of_o hell_n whereunto_o we_o be_v enthrall_v now_o to_o what_o purpose_n do_v the_o answe_n allege_v these_o word_n of_o cyprian_a or_o what_o advantage_n do_v he_o dream_v he_o have_v in_o they_o he_o will_v find_v his_o limbus_n patrum_fw-la here_o but_o it_o will_v not_o be_v for_o cyprian_n speak_v express_o of_o deliverance_n from_o hell_n torment_n whereof_o there_o be_v none_o in_o limbo_n patrum_fw-la as_o his_o master_n 26_o master_n rhem._n an_o not_o luc._n 16._o 26_o of_o rheims_n do_v instruct_v he_o now_o have_v use_v this_o péevish_a and_o impertinent_a talk_n of_o thing_n make_v nothing_o at_o all_o for_o his_o purpose_n yet_o as_o a_o man_n in_o a_o dream_n he_o break_v out_o into_o this_o fond_a presumption_n that_o the_o father_n be_v all_o they_o and_o that_o i_o shall_v hear_v but_o that_o he_o be_v not_o dispose_v to_o oppose_v i_o have_v not_o to_o do_v with_o master_n spence_n i_o perceive_v but_o with_o a_o man_n well_o see_v in_o all_o the_o father_n but_o the_o father_n be_v he_o as_o they_o be_v his_o that_o say_a ego_fw-la 1._o ego_fw-la dioscorus_n the_o heretic_n council_n chalcedo_n act._n 1._o cum_fw-la patribus_fw-la eijcior_fw-la the_o father_n and_o i_o be_v cast_v out_o both_o together_o and_o that_o appear_v in_o the_o word_n of_o cyprian_a now_o to_o be_v handle_v chris_fw-la handle_v cyprian_a de_fw-fr unct_n chris_fw-la our_o lord_n say_v he_o at_o the_o table_n where_o he_o keep_v his_o last_o supper_n with_o his_o apostle_n give_v with_o his_o own_o hand_n bread_n and_o wine_n but_o upon_o the_o cross_n he_o yield_v his_o body_n to_o the_o soldier_n hand_n to_o be_v wound_v that_o sincere_a truth_n and_o true_a sincerity_n be_v secret_o imprint_v in_o his_o apostle_n may_v declare_v to_o the_o nation_n how_o bread_n and_o wine_n be_v his_o flesh_n and_o blood_n and_o how_o cause_n agree_v to_o the_o effect_n and_o diverse_a name_n or_o kind_n be_v reduce_v to_o one_o essence_n or_o substance_n and_o the_o thing_n signify_v and_o the_o thing_n signify_v be_v count_v by_o the_o same_o name_n where_o it_o be_v plain_o avouch_v that_o christ_n at_o his_o last_o supper_n give_v bread_n &_o wine_n what_o need_v any_o more_o yea_o but_o do_v christ_n give_v bare_a bread_n and_o wine_n say_v the_o answ_n absurd_o and_o froward_o no_o say_v i_o for_o this_o bread_n and_o wine_n be_v the_o flesh_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n as_o i_o before_o allege_v out_o of_o cyprian_a according_a to_o the_o which_o s._n paul_n say_v 16._o say_v 1._o cor_fw-la 10._o 16._o the_o bread_n which_o we_o break_v be_v the_o communion_n of_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n the_o cup_n of_o blessing_n be_v the_o communion_n of_o the_o blood_n of_o christ_n therefore_o s._n austen_n call_v this_o bread_n est_fw-la bread_n august_n de_fw-fr consecr_n do_v 2._o cap._n hoc_fw-la est_fw-la heavenly_a bread_n and_o theodoret_n 2._o theodoret_n theodoret._n dial_n 2._o the_o bread_n of_o life_n and_o the_o same_o cyprian_a say_v that_o chri_fw-la that_o cypria_n de_fw-fr resurrect_v chri_fw-la that_o which_o be_v see_v namely_o the_o visible_a element_n of_o bread_n be_v account_v both_o in_o name_n and_o virtue_n the_o body_n of_o christ_n namely_o because_o it_o contain_v sacramental_o the_o whole_a virtue_n and_o benefit_n of_o the_o passion_n and_o death_n of_o our_o lord_n jesus_n christ_n as_o before_o i_o show_v but_o let_v he_o remember_v that_o cyprian_a say_v it_o be_v bread_n and_o wine_n which_o be_v the_o flesh_n &_o blood_n of_o christ_n whereas_o by_o his_o defence_n there_o be_v in_o the_o sacrament_n neither_o bread_n nor_o wine_n but_o cyprian_n say_v that_o diverse_a name_n and_o kind_n be_v reduce_v to_o one_o substance_n do_v you_o hear_v substance_n say_v the_o answ_n help_v that_o sore_a if_o you_o can_v with_o all_o your_o cunning_n sure_o small_a cunning_n will_v serve_v to_o heal_v a_o sore_n where_o neither_o flesh_n nor_o skin_n be_v break_v or_o bruise_a this_o be_v in_o truth_n a_o very_a ignorant_a and_o blind_a opposition_n the_o visible_a element_n that_o be_v in_o substance_n bread_n and_o wine_n be_v in_o mystery_n and_o signification_n the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n and_o be_v so_o call_v as_o cyprian_a before_o set_v down_n when_o therefore_o bread_n be_v one_o substance_n be_v call_v not_o only_o according_a to_o his_o substance_n bread_n but_o also_o by_o way_n of_o sacrament_n and_o mystery_n the_o body_n of_o christ_n when_o the_o wine_n be_v one_o substance_n be_v call_v not_o only_o as_o it_o be_v wine_n but_o also_o as_o it_o signify_v the_o blood_n of_o christ_n diverse_a name_n or_o kind_n be_v reduce_v to_o one_o substance_n and_o this_o cyprian_a declare_v when_o he_o add_v the_o sign_n and_o the_o thing_n signify_v be_v call_v by_o the_o same_o name_n the_o body_n of_o christ_n itself_o and_o the_o sign_n hereof_o which_o be_v bread_n be_v both_o call_v the_o body_n the_o blood_n of_o christ_n and_o the_o sign_n hereof_o which_o be_v wine_n be_v both_o call_v his_o blood_n the_o body_n and_o blood_n itself_o be_v so_o call_v indeed_o and_o truth_n but_o the_o sign_n in_o their_o manner_n not_o in_o the_o truth_n of_o the_o thing_n but_o in_o a_o signify_v mystery_n yet_o so_o one_o substance_n be_v call_v by_o diverse_a name_n as_o the_o word_n before_o do_v specify_v now_o the_o place_n of_o cyprian_a be_v as_o clear_v as_o the_o sunne-light_n against_o transubstantiation_n as_o every_o eye_n may_v perceive_v yet_o the_o answ_n send_v i_o to_o their_o learned_a treatise_n to_o see_v what_o be_v there_o say_v of_o this_o and_o other_o place_n and_o what_o shall_v i_o find_v there_o but_o such_o wretched_a and_o miserable_a cavil_n and_o shift_n as_o he_o himself_o have_v borrow_v from_o they_o and_o here_o master_n spence_n as_o in_o your_o name_n he_o excuse_v himself_o of_o his_o simpleness_n and_o that_o he_o be_v no_o doctor_n which_o accord_v not_o with_o his_o vaunt_n before_o that_o he_o can_v show_v i_o this_o and_o that_o out_o of_o the_o father_n and_o i_o marvel_v that_o he_o shall_v make_v excuse_n thus_o of_o his_o learning_n to_o a_o minister_n of_o our_o church_n so_o mean_a as_o i_o be_o see_v it_o be_v so_o péevish_o brag_v among_o you_o common_o that_o there_o be_v little_a learning_n to_o be_v find_v among_o the_o best_a of_o us._n wheresoever_o he_o be_v i_o wish_v that_o his_o conscience_n and_o truth_n towards_o god_n be_v but_o even_o as_o much_o as_o his_o learning_n be_v p._n spence_n sect._n 16._o the_o same_o cyprian_a you_o say_v lib._n 2._o epistola_fw-la 3._o which_o be_v the_o famous_a epistle_n ad_fw-la caecilium_fw-la so_o much_o condemn_v you_o in_o so_o many_o point_n about_o the_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o church_n and_o of_o mix_v of_o water_n which_o he_o say_v assure_o christ_n do_v but_o i_o marvel_v you_o will_v for_o shame_n ever_o avouch_v it_o or_o point_v i_o to_o it_o for_o 2._o for_o a_o popish_a brag_n see_v the_o answer_n to_o sect_n 2._o every_o line_n of_o it_o be_v a_o knife_n to_o cut_v your_o throat_n you_o say_v that_o here_o s._n cyprian_n say_v that_o it_o be_v wine_n which_o christ_n call_v his_o blood_n much_o to_o your_o purpose_n master_n abbot_n who_o doubt_v yet_o but_o that_o he_o take_v wine_n and_o not_o ale_n beer_n sydar_n metheglin_n or_o such_o like_a matter_n s._n cyprian_n meaning_n be_v most_o plain_a against_o the_o aquarios_fw-la that_o it_o be_v wine_n be_v do_v christ_n call_v wine_n his_o blood_n and_o yet_o d●d_v he_o mean_v that_o it_o be_v not_o wine_n wine_n mingle_v with_o water_n as_o in_o this_o epistle_n he_o proove_v notable_o and_o not_o bare_a water_n as_o those_o aquarij_fw-la will_v have_v it_o that_o he_o call_v his_o blood_n that_o be_v to_o say_v he_o take_v wine_n and_o not_o bare_a water_n to_o make_v the_o sacrament_n of_o and_o what_o be_v this_o to_o your_o purpose_n such_o testimony_n be_v the_o father_n scrap_n paring_n and_o crumb_n and_o not_o their_o sound_a testimony_n r._n abbot_n 16._o the_o famous_a epistle_n of_o cyprian_a to_o cecilius_n say_v plain_o we_o 3._o we_o cypr._n lib._n 2._o epist_n 3._o find_v that_o it_o be_v wine_n which_o christ_n call_v his_o blood_n as_o he_o say_v twice_o beside_o in_o the_o same_o epistle_n that_o by_o wine_n be_v represent_v the_o blood_n of_o christ_n yea_o say_v the_o answ_n he_o mean_v that_o it_o be_v wine_n at_o the_o
first_o which_o he_o take_v to_o make_v the_o sacrament_n but_o in_o be_v make_v the_o sacrament_n it_o be_v no_o long_a wine_n as_o if_o cyprian_a have_v say_v thus_o christ_n take_v wine_n and_o make_v it_o no_o wine_n and_o though_o it_o be_v now_o no_o wine_n yet_o he_o call_v wine_n his_o blood_n cyprian_n word_n be_v evident_a that_o christ_n call_v wine_n his_o blood_n and_o that_o by_o wine_n be_v represent_v his_o blood_n which_o can_v be_v till_o it_o be_v make_v a_o sacrament_n therefore_o in_o the_o sacrament_n there_o be_v wine_n which_o represent_v and_o be_v call_v the_o blood_n of_o christ_n such_o testimony_n he_o say_v be_v the_o scrap_n and_o paring_n and_o crumb_n of_o the_o father_n but_o let_v he_o remember_v that_o a_o crumb_n be_v enough_o to_o choke_v a_o man_n and_o so_o do_v this_o testimony_n choke_v he_o so_o that_o he_o stagger_v and_o stammer_v out_o a_o answer_n whereof_o he_o himself_o can_v make_v no_o reason_n if_o he_o be_v inquire_v of_o it_o by_o word_n of_o mouth_n his_o other_o idle_a talk_n be_v answer_v 2._o answer_v sect._n 2._o before_o pet._n spence_n sect._n 17._o saint_n augustine_n ad_fw-la adimantum_fw-la make_v so_o flat_o against_o you_o that_o i_o wonder_v why_o you_o allege_v it_o our_o lord_n doubt_v not_o to_o say_v this_o be_v my_o body_n why_o shall_v he_o doubt_v to_o say_v it_o be_v so_o when_o he_o know_v it_o be_v so_o when_o he_o give_v the_o sign_n of_o his_o body_n but_o what_o sign_n a_o bare_a sign_n no_o sir_n but_o such_o a_o sign_n as_o contain_v in_o it_o the_o thing_n signify_v real_o how_o prove_v you_o it_o even_o thus_o he_o write_v against_o the_o manichee_n that_o condemn_v all_o the_o old_a testament_n as_o be_v the_o evil_a god_n testament_n such_o be_v their_o vile_a blasphemy_n among_o other_o place_n they_o condemn_v this_o place_n of_o leviticus_fw-la 17._o sanguis_fw-la pecoris_fw-la erit_fw-la eius_fw-la a●ima_fw-la this_o place_n say_v s._n augustine_n be_v speak_v figurative_o not_o that_o it_o be_v the_o very_a soul_n or_o life_n of_o the_o beast_n but_o that_o in_o it_o lie_v the_o soul_n or_o life_n of_o the_o beast_n neither_o be_v the_o blood_n a_o bare_a signification_n of_o the_o beast_n soul_n but_o such_o a_o sign_n as_o contain_v in_o it_o the_o very_a soul_n of_o the_o beast_n and_o therefore_o of_o the_o same_o speech_n he_o have_v quaestio_fw-la 57_o in_o leviticum_fw-la make_v particular_a discourse_n where_o he_o have_v these_o word_n we_o be_v to_o seek_v out_o such_o speech_n as_o by_o that_o which_o contain_v do_v signify_v that_o which_o be_v contain_v ●●_o because_o the_o life_n be_v hold_v in_o the_o body_n by_o the_o blood_n for_o if_o the_o blood_n be_v shed_v the_o life_n or_o soul_n depart_v therefore_o by_o the_o blood_n be_v most_o f●●ly_o signify_v the_o soul_n and_o the_o blood_n take_v the_o name_n thereof_o even_o as_o the_o place_n wherein_o the_o church_n assemble_v be_v call_v the_o church_n you_o show_v you_o i_o see_v the_o answerer_n play_v with_o his_o own_o fancy_n altogether_o stran●e_a from_o s._n austen●_n meaning_n as_o shall_v be_v show_v see_v he_o make_v in_o this_o place_n the_o blood_n of_o the_o beast_n a_o sign_n of_o the_o beast_n soul_n but_o such_o a_o sign_n as_o contain_v the_o soul_n in_o it_o now_o in_o the_o other_o place_n ad_fw-la adimantum_fw-la by_o you_o object_v s._n augustine_n forget_v not_o this_o point_n of_o this_o place_n touch_v but_o in_o excuse_v that_o place_n of_o leviticus_fw-la and_o interpret_n it_o he_o exemplifi_v it_o by_o the_o word_n of_o christ_n which_o they_o admit_v all_o the_o sort_n of_o they_o as_o be_v the_o word_n of_o the_o good_a god_n of_o the_o new_a testament_n as_o they_o term_v he_o saying_n i_o may_v interpret_v that_o precept_n to_o be_v set_v down_o by_o way_n of_o sign_n for_o our_o lord_n doubt_v not_o to_o say_v etc._n etc._n so_o that_o this_o place_n be_v bring_v by_o s._n augustine_n to_o show_v that_o in_o the_o b._n sacrament_n there_o be_v a_o sign_n contain_v the_o thing_n and_o therefore_o call_v by_o the_o name_n of_o the_o thing_n so_o in_o that_o of_o leviticus_fw-la moses_n call_v the_o blood_n the_o soul_n of_o the_o beast_n because_o it_o be_v such_o a_o sign_n as_o contain_v the_o soul_n of_o the_o beast_n real_o in_o it_o this_o exposition_n be_v irrefragable_a because_o it_o be_v of_o be_v which_o s._n austen_n himself_o never_o dream_v of_o s._n august_n own_o exposition_n who_o can_v best_o expound_v his_o own_o meaning_n and_o against_o the_o manichee_n he_o can_v not_o bring_v any_o other_o mean_v possible_o of_o this_o be_v my_o body_n but_o that_o for_o they_o confess_v christ_n to_o be_v real_o in_o the_o sacrament_n in_o his_o body_n because_o the_o evil_a god_n have_v tie_v he_o or_o as_o they_o foolish_o utter_v it_o certain_a piece_n of_o he_o aswell_o in_o the_o sacramental_a bread_n as_o in_o other_o bread_n ear_n of_o corn_n stick_n herb_n meat_n and_o all_o other_o creature_n and_o that_o the_o elect_a manichee_n by_o eat_v those_o thing_n and_o after_o belch_a they_o out_o again_o and_o otherwise_o avoid_v they_o do_v let_v out_o at_o liberty_n the_o good_a god_n christ_n body_n and_o therefore_o after_o these_o exposition_n agreeable_a to_o their_o heresy_n this_o place_n do_v fit_o as_o s._n augustine_n bring_v it_o in_o expound_v that_o of_o leviticus_fw-la as_o christ_n in_o say_v this_o be_v my_o body_n must_v mean_v as_o you_o manichee_n expound_v it_o this_o be_v a_o sign_n of_o my_o body_n in_o which_o sign_n the_o part_n of_o my_o body_n be_v bind_v even_o so_o the_o blood_n of_o the_o beast_n be_v the_o life_n be_v as_o much_o as_o the_o blood_n of_o the_o beast_n be_v a_o sign_n of_o his_o life_n in_o which_o sign_n his_o life_n be_v contain_v thus_o do_v s._n augustine_n excellent_o quoad_fw-la homines_fw-la answer_v the_o manichee_n with_o their_o own_o opinion_n and_o therefore_o to_o conclude_v s_o augustine_n in_o call_v it_o signum_fw-la do_v infer_v most_o necessary_a that_o his_o body_n be_v present_a because_o it_o be_v a_o sign_n in_o which_o the_o body_n be_v contain_v r._n abbot_n 17._o to_o show_v further_o that_o our_o saviour_n christ_n say_v of_o very_a bread_n this_o be_v my_o body_n and_o therefore_o that_o the_o sacrament_n be_v not_o real_o and_o substantial_o but_o only_o in_o sign_n and_o mystery_n the_o body_n of_o christ_n i_o allege_v the_o word_n of_o s._n austen_n our_o 12._o our_o august_n count_n adimantum_fw-la cap._n 12._o lord_n doubt_v not_o to_o say_v this_o a_o be_v my_o body_n when_o he_o give_v the_o sign_n of_o his_o body_n the_o word_n be_v plain_a that_o christ_n in_o a_o certain_a understanding_n and_o mean_v call_v that_o by_o the_o name_n of_o his_o body_n which_o be_v indeed_o but_o a_o sign_n of_o his_o body_n now_o with_o this_o place_n of_o austen_n the_o answ_n deal_v as_o 1._o as_o leu._n deca_v 1._o lib._n 1._o cacus_n the_o thief_n deal_v with_o hercules_n his_o ox_n when_o he_o draw_v they_o backward_o by_o the_o tail_n into_o his_o cave_n so_o do_v this_o man_n violent_o pull_v and_o draw_v the_o word_n of_o austen_n backward_o into_o his_o den_n of_o real_a presence_n and_o strein_v they_o whether_o they_o will_v or_o not_o to_o serve_v his_o turn_n in_o that_o behalf_n but_o the_o low_v of_o the_o ox_n to_o their_o fellow_n descry_v the_o theft_n of_o cacus_n and_o the_o word_n follow_v in_o s._n austen_n himself_o do_v prove_v that_o the_o answ_n do_v but_o play_v the_o thief_n m._n harding_n be_v content_a to_o say_v that_o s._n austen_n in_o heat_n of_o disputation_n speak_v that_o which_o may_v be_v great_a advantage_n against_o the_o heretic_n not_o most_o agreeable_a to_o the_o truth_n or_o to_o his_o own_o meaning_n but_o little_a do_v he_o think_v that_o the_o place_n shall_v serve_v to_o prove_v any_o thing_n for_o his_o part_n but_o the_o answ_n have_v learn_v a_o trick_n to_o make_v the_o word_n speak_v for_o real_a presence_n which_o never_o be_v in_o s._n austin_n mind_n forsooth_o have_v in_o hand_n against_o the_o manichee_n to_o expound_v the_o word_n of_o moses_n law_n the_o blood_n be_v the_o soul_n or_o life_n he_o tell_v they_o that_o the_o meaning_n thereof_o be_v that_o the_o blood_n be_v a_o sign_n of_o life_n in_o which_o sign_n the_o soul_n or_o life_n be_v real_o contain_v and_o to_o show_v this_o we_o be_v tell_v that_o he_o bring_v the_o word_n of_o christ_n this_o be_v my_o body_n which_o he_o speak_v of_o the_o sign_n of_o his_o body_n but_o yet_o such_o a_o sign_n as_o do_v real_o contain_v the_o body_n and_o therefore_o we_o must_v think_v that_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n
forsooth_o gelasius_n must_v forget_v what_o he_o have_v to_o prove_v and_o must_v say_v for_o you_o that_o the_o sacrament_n be_v nothing_o but_o a_o sign_n and_o then_o how_o serve_v it_o for_o a_o argument_n against_o eutyches_n if_o it_o be_v but_o bare_a brad_a in_o one_o nature_n only_o whereas_o if_o you_o look_v upon_o the_o whole_a testimony_n of_o gelasius_n as_o i_o set_v it_o down_o large_o to_o you_o you_o shall_v see_v yea_o with_o half_a a_o eye_n that_o the_o meaning_n of_o these_o word_n a_o image_n and_o similitude_n of_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o the_o lord_n be_v perform_v in_o the_o celebration_n of_o the_o mystery_n be_v no_o other_o but_o this_o that_o his_o be_v in_o the_o sacrament_n both_o in_o a_o divine_a substance_n as_o himself_o tell_v you_o and_o also_o join_v with_o the_o natural_a property_n of_o bread_n be_v a_o figure_n and_o resemblance_n of_o his_o two_o nature_n remain_v in_o heaven_n unconfused_a thus_o you_o care_v not_o how_o foolish_o you_o make_v the_o author_n to_o speak_v so_o he_o afford_v you_o word_n and_o syllable_n to_o make_v a_o show_n look_v upon_o gelasius_n and_o bethink_v yourself_o i_o have_v answer_v he_o at_o large_a look_v 11._o look_v in_o the_o end_n and_o there_o you_o shall_v find_v it_o because_o it_o be_v write_v before_o you_o come_v to_o my_o hand_n i_o be_v loath_a to_o write_v it_o again_o in_o his_o orderly_a place_n for_o that_o writing_n be_v somewhat_o painful_a to_o my_o weak_a head_n and_o year_n wherefore_o i_o crave_v you_o to_o bear_v with_o i_o in_o that_o matter_n r._n abbot_n 19_o the_o word_n of_o gelasius_n be_v these_o a_o nestor_n a_o gelas_n count_n euty_n &_o nestor_n image_n or_o resemblance_n of_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n be_v celebrate_v in_o the_o action_n of_o the_o mystery_n or_o sacrament_n hereby_o gelasius_n give_v to_o understand_v that_o the_o sacrament_n be_v not_o the_o very_a body_n of_o christ_n but_o the_o image_n and_o resemblance_n of_o his_o body_n it_o be_v more_o plain_a by_o that_o which_o he_o add_v we_o must_v therefore_o think_v the_o same_o of_o christ_n himself_o which_o we_o profess_v in_o his_o image_n that_o be_v to_o say_v in_o the_o sacrament_n mark_v how_o he_o distinguish_v christ_n himself_o and_o the_o image_n of_o christ_n the_o sacrament_n therefore_o which_o be_v the_o image_n of_o christ_n be_v not_o christ_n himself_o thus_o the_o word_n themselves_o do_v manifest_o give_v that_o for_o which_o i_o allege_v they_o but_o the_o answ_n tell_v i_o that_o i_o allege_v gelasius_n here_o contrary_a to_o his_o own_o meaning_n even_o by_o my_o own_o confession_n how_o may_v that_o be_v forsooth_o i_o will_v before_o have_v gelasius_n his_o drift_n to_o be_v that_o as_o christ_n be_v in_o heaven_n in_o two_o nature_n so_o here_o upon_o the_o earth_n in_o the_o sacrament_n be_v bread_n with_o the_o body_n and_o so_o both_o in_o heaven_n and_o here_o will_v have_v two_o several_a nature_n but_o now_o in_o this_o place_n i_o will_v have_v the_o sacrament_n to_o be_v nothing_o but_o a_o sign_n and_o bare_a bread_n in_o one_o nature_n only_o but_o he_o know_v that_o he_o speak_v untruth_n both_o in_o the_o one_o and_o in_o the_o other_o of_o the_o former_a he_o himself_o have_v acquit_v i_o before_o say_v 9_o say_v sect._n 9_o you_o will_v have_v the_o sacrament_n a_o memory_n of_o christ_n as_o though_o he_o be_v absent_a then_o belike_o i_o will_v not_o have_v the_o body_n of_o christ_n real_o present_v here_o upon_o the_o earth_n in_o the_o sacrament_n of_o the_o other_o i_o acquit_v myself_o in_o that_o very_a place_n which_o he_o take_v upon_o he_o to_o answer_v for_o i_o add_v immediate_o upon_o the_o allege_v of_o those_o word_n thus_o yet_o be_v not_o the_o sacrament_n naked_a &_o bare_a sign_n as_o you_o be_v wont_v hereupon_o to_o cavil_n but_o substantial_a and_o effectual_a sign_n or_o seal_v rather_o assure_v our_o faith_n of_o the_o thing_n seal_v thereby_o and_o deliver_v as_o it_o be_v into_o our_o hand_n and_o possession_n the_o whole_a fruit_n &_o benefit_n of_o the_o death_n and_o passion_n of_o jesus_n christ_n to_o answer_v he_o to_o both_o in_o a_o word_n thus_o i_o say_v that_o as_o the_o water_n of_o baptism_n do_v sacramental_o imply_v the_o blood_n of_o christ_n though_o the_o blood_n of_o christ_n be_v in_o heaven_n so_o likewise_o the_o bread_n and_o wine_n in_o the_o lord_n supper_n do_v sacramental_o imply_v the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n though_o the_o same_o body_n and_o blood_n be_v in_o heaven_n and_o not_o upon_o the_o earth_n and_o therefore_o neither_o do_v i_o before_o say_v nor_o do_v now_o that_o the_o sacrament_n consist_v of_o two_o nature_n real_o be_v upon_o earth_n but_o of_o bread_n and_o wine_n be_v on_o earth_n and_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n be_v in_o heaven_n the_o one_o receive_v by_o the_o hand_n of_o the_o body_n the_o other_o only_o by_o the_o hand_n of_o the_o soul_n which_o only_o reach_v unto_o heaven_n again_o as_o water_n in_o baptism_n be_v not_o therefore_o bare_a water_n because_o the_o blood_n of_o christ_n be_v not_o there_o real_o present_a so_o no_o more_o be_v the_o bread_n of_o the_o lord_n table_n bare_a bread_n although_o there_o be_v no_o real_a presence_n of_o the_o body_n but_o it_o do_v most_o effectual_o offer_v and_o yield_v unto_o the_o beléeve_a soul_n the_o assurance_n of_o the_o grace_n of_o god_n and_o of_o the_o forgiveness_n of_o sin_n that_o which_o he_o further_o add_v as_o touch_v the_o drift_n and_o purpose_n of_o gelasius_n how_o lewd_o it_o pervert_v his_o word_n and_o make_v they_o to_o serve_v full_o for_o the_o heresy_n of_o eutyches_n against_o which_o gelasius_n write_v i_o have_v declare_v before_o and_o so_o well_o have_v i_o bethink_v myself_o hereof_o as_o that_o i_o doubt_v i_o may_v in_o that_o behalf_n charge_v the_o answ_n conscience_n with_o voluntary_a and_o wilful_a falsehood_n and_o desperate_a fight_v against_o god_n pet._n spence_n sect._n 20._o your_o term_n of_o seal_n apply_v to_o the_o sacrament_n be_v do_v to_o a_o ill_a purpose_n to_o make_v the_o sacrament_n no_o better_o than_o the_o jew_n sacrament_n be_v to_o handle_v that_o matter_n will_v require_v a_o great_a discourse_n which_o willing_o i_o let_v pass_v but_o yet_o i_o must_v tell_v you_o that_o the_o say_a opinion_n be_v very_a derogatory_n to_o the_o world_n the_o untruth_n for_o the_o passion_n of_o christ_n have_v have_v his_o effect_n from_o the_o begin_n of_o the_o world_n effect_n of_o christ_n passion_n of_o the_o which_o the_o sacrament_n of_o christ_n church_n take_v a_o far_o more_o effectual_a virtue_n than_o the_o jew_n sacrament_n do_v read_v our_o treatise_n of_o that_o matter_n for_o i_o listen_v not_o to_o run_v into_o that_o disputation_n r._n abbot_n 20._o he_o dislike_v that_o i_o call_v the_o sacrament_n seal_n yet_o here_o his_o own_o conscience_n can_v tell_v he_o that_o we_o make_v not_o the_o sacrament_n bare_a bread_n and_o wine_n as_o he_o and_o his_o fellow_n malicious_o cavil_v though_o wax_n of_o itself_o b●_n but_o wax_n yet_o when_o ●●_o 〈◊〉_d with_o the_o prince_n signe●_n it_o be_v treason_n to_o offer_v despite_n unto_o it_o so_o whatsoever_o the_o bread_n and_o wine_n be_v of_o themselves_o yet_o when_o they_o be_v by_o the_o word_n of_o god_n as_o it_o be_v stamp_v and_o print_v to_o be_v sacrament_n and_o seal_n it_o be_v the_o peril_n of_o the_o soul_n to_o abuse_v they_o or_o to_o come_v unreverent_o unto_o they_o but_o why_o be_v not_o the_o term_n of_o s●ales_n to_o be_v approve_v in_o our_o sacrament_n sure_o s._n austen_n call_v they_o visible_a poen●t_n visible_a august_n lib._n de_fw-fr catech●z_fw-fr ●ud_n ca._n 26._o &_o hom_n 50._o de_fw-la v._o tit._n poen●t_n seal_n and_o why_o then_o be_v it_o amiss_o in_o we_o forsooth_o because_o it_o make_v our_o sacrament_n no_o better_o than_o the_o sacrament_n of_o the_o jew_n indeed_o our_o sacrament_n be_v in_o number_n sewer_n for_o observation_n more_o easy_a in_o use_n more_o clean_o in_o signification_n more_o plain_a and_o through_o the_o manifest_a revelation_n of_o the_o gospel_n more_o meet_a to_o excite_v and_o stir_v up_o our_o faith_n and_o in_o these_o respect_v they_o be_v better_a than_o the_o sacrament_n of_o the_o jew_n but_o as_o touch_v inward_a and_o spiritual_a grace_n they_o be_v both_o the_o same_o neither_o be_v there_o in_o that_o respect_n any_o reason_n to_o affirm_v our_o sacrament_n to_o be_v better_a than_o they_o for_o they_o do_v ●_o do_v 1_o cor._n 10._o ●_o eat_v the_o same_o spiritual_a meat_n and_o drink_v the_o same_o spiritual_a drink_n that_o we_o do_v the_o same_o i_o say_v that_o we_o
horrible_a and_o blasphemous_a conceit_n which_o the_o answ_n can_v not_o conceive_v out_o of_o my_o former_a word_n these_o be_v y●_z fruit_n of_o their_o transubstantiation_n and_o real_a presence_n that_o the_o very_a body_n of_o christ_n be_v receive_v into_o the_o belly_n of_o d●gs_n and_o swine_n and_o mouse_n that_o it_o may_v be_v in_o the_o dirt_n &_o in_o the_o belly_n of_o ungodly_a man_n until_o the_o form_n ●e_v consume_v and_o digest_v beside_o other_o filthy_a matter_n missae_fw-la matter_n antonin_n sum_n p._n 3._o tit_n 13._o cap._n 6._o q._n 3._o the_o defectib_n missae_fw-la of_o vomit_v up_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n and_o eat_v it_o again_o be_v vomit_v and_o draw_v it_o out_o of_o the_o entrail_n of_o the_o mouse_n or_o other_o beast_n that_o have_v eat_v it_o etc._n etc._n which_o be_v most_o leathsome_a to_o any_o christian_a ear_n to_o hear_v of_o 〈◊〉_d yet_o very_o venturous_o dispute_v of_o and_o resolve_v upon_o by_o antonin●s_n no_o mean_a a_o man_n then_o archbishop_n of_o florence_n and_o as_o i_o think_v saint_v by_o the_o pope_n for_o his_o great_a pain_n never_o any_o capernaite_o more_o gross_a never_o manichée_n more_o blasphemous_a than_o these_o villainous_a imagination_n which_o these_o caitiffs_n have_v publish_v to_o the_o world_n and_o their_o real_a presence_n stand_v they_o can_v resolve_v how_o to_o shift_v of_o these_o thing_n but_o stagger_v as_o harding_n do_v with_o it_o may_v be_v this_o and_o it_o may_v be_v that_o and_o it_o may_v be_v they_o know_v not_o what_o therefore_o let_v the_o answ_n now_o think_v with_o himself_o with_o what_o reason_n he_o bid_v i_o beware_v of_o bear_v false_a witness_n against_o my_o neighbour_n let_v he_o remember_v that_o thief_n and_o malefactor_n do_v usual_o call_v true_a evidence_n false_a witness_n but_o yet_o their_o honesty_n and_o truth_n be_v no_o whit_n the_o more_o s._n hierom_n say_v that_o 18._o that_o hierony_n in_o esa_n 66._o li._n 18._o they_o which_o be_v lover_n of_o pleasure_n more_o than_o lover_n of_o god_n and_o be_v not_o holy_a both_o in_o body_n and_o spirit_n do_v neither_o eat_v the_o flesh_n of_o christ_n nor_o drink_v his_o blood_n whereof_o he_o himself_o speak_v in_o the_o six_o of_o john_n he_o that_o eat_v my_o flesh_n and_o drink_v my_o blood_n have_v eternal_a life_n where_o out_o of_o the_o word_n of_o christ_n himself_o he_o seclude_v not_o only_a bruit_n beast_n but_o also_o ungodly_a and_o unholy_a man_n from_o eat_v and_o drink_v the_o flesh_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n yet_o it_o may_v so_o be_v that_o not_o only_o unholy_a &_o profane_a man_n but_o also_o bruit_n beast_n may_v eat_v of_o the_o romish_a host_n or_o sacrament_n therefore_o the_o romish_a sacrament_n be_v not_o the_o very_a flesh_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n as_o the_o romish_a faction_n will_v bear_v we_o in_o hand_n that_o it_o be_v p._n spence_n sect._n 30._o the_o conformity_n of_o the_o word_n of_o the_o evangelist_n and_o of_o s._n paul_n be_v so_o great_a a_o matter_n as_o that_o of_o itself_o it_o offer_v good_a and_o great_a cause_n of_o note_v it_o without_o the_o warn_n of_o any_o allen_n parson_n or_o any_o other_o never_o so_o learned_a and_o your_o similitude_n of_o the_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o old_a law_n so_o agreeable_o utter_v and_o yet_o by_o your_o leave_n but_o by_o one_o moses_n alone_o and_o not_o by_o three_o sundry_a evangelist_n and_o one_o apostle_n as_o it_o be_v in_o this_o case_n fit_v not_o to_o this_o for_o moses_n endue_v with_o the_o spirit_n of_o god_n can_v not_o in_o any_o word_n imagine_v to_o attribute_v 20._o attribute_v a_o mere_a fancy_n their_o sacrament_n yield_v the_o same_o fruit_n to_o they_o that_o we_o do_v to_o us._n see_v sect_n 20._o such_o a_o work_a force_n ex_fw-la opere_fw-la operato_fw-la to_o the_o legal_a expiation_n which_o wrought_v ex_fw-la adiuncto_fw-la fidei_fw-la and_o not_o of_o themselves_o as_o be_v to_o be_v give_v to_o the_o sacrament_n of_o christ_n howsoever_o your_o side_n abase_v they_o as_o low_a as_o the_o very_a jewish_a sacrament_n i_o be_o glad_a that_o the_o plain_a consent_n of_o the_o evangelist_n and_o saint_n paul_n do_v so_o little_a like_o you_o in_o this_o point_n r._n abbot_n 30._o there_o be_v urge_v for_o the_o proof_n of_o transubstantiation_n the_o consent_n of_o the_o evangelist_n and_o s._n paul_n say_v all_o alike_o this_o be_v my_o body_n whereas_o if_o they_o mean_v not_o to_o be_v understand_v literal_o the_o one_o will_v have_v expound_v the_o other_o but_o the_o conformity_n of_o these_o three_o evangelist_n and_o s._n paul_n be_v no_o strong_a a_o argument_n as_o i_o have_v tell_v he_o to_o prove_v transubstantiation_n than_o the_o continual_a call_n of_o the_o old_a sacrifice_n of_o moses_n law_n by_o the_o name_n of_o expiation_n and_o attonemente_n be_v to_o prove_v that_o they_o be_v very_o and_o indeed_o expiation_n and_o attonemente_n for_o sin_n which_o yet_o be_v but_o type_n and_o figure_n thereof_o as_o the_o sacrament_n be_v a_o figure_n and_o sign_n of_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n the_o exception_n of_o the_o answ_n that_o that_o be_v speak_v but_o by_o one_o moses_n &_o this_o by_o three_o evangelist_n and_o one_o apostle_n be_v vain_a the_o holy_a ghost_n speak_v in_o both_o place_n by_o whosoever_o and_o if_o the_o answ_n argument_n be_v good_a must_v needs_o have_v alter_v that_o speech_n in_o moses_n law_n but_o that_o the_o goodness_n of_o it_o be_v disinherit_v by_o his_o own_o fellow_n also_o it_o follow_v after_o to_o be_v show_v that_o which_o he_o add_v in_o this_o place_n of_o the_o work_a force_n in_o both_o sacrament_n the_o old_a and_o the_o new_a be_v impertinent_a i_o speak_v not_o of_o the_o work_a force_n of_o either_o but_o of_o the_o like_a phrase_n of_o speech_n concern_v both_o but_o yet_o whereas_o he_o say_v that_o the_o sacrament_n of_o the_o new_a testament_n have_v force_n by_o the_o very_a work_n wrought_v i_o must_v tell_v he_o that_o he_o speak_v without_o scripture_n without_o father_n a_o thing_n absurd_a in_o itself_o and_o contrary_a also_o to_o that_o which_o he_o have_v say_v before_o if_o we_o obtain_v the_o effect_n of_o the_o sacrament_n by_o receive_v christ_n in_o faith_n hope_n and_o charity_n together_o with_o the_o entrance_n of_o his_o body_n into_o we_o as_o he_o say_v before_o than_o the_o sacrament_n give_v not_o that_o grace_n by_o the_o very_a work_n wrought_v as_o he_o say_v here_o if_o it_o give_v grace_n by_o the_o very_a work_n wrought_v as_o he_o say_v here_o than_o it_o be_v not_o to_o be_v ascribe_v to_o faith_n hope_n and_o charity_n as_o he_o say_v there_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n have_v tell_v we_o that_o a_o man_n 9_o man_n council_n trident_n sess_v 6._o ca._n 9_o may_v not_o assure_v himself_o that_o he_o have_v receive_v the_o grace_n of_o god_n but_o if_o the_o sacrament_n yield_v gra●●_n by_o the_o very_a work_n wrought_v a_o man_n may_v assure_v himself_o that_o he_o have_v receive_v grace_n because_o he_o may_v assure_v himself_o that_o he_o be_v baptize_v and_o what_o reason_n be_v there_o why_o infant_n natural_n and_o frantic_a person_n shall_v be_v exclude_v from_o receive_v the_o lord_n supper_n if_o the_o sacrament_n have_v his_o force_n of_o the_o very_a work_n do_v but_o s._n austen_n plain_o refute_v this_o conceit_n as_o touch_v our_o sacrament_n 80._o sacrament_n august_n in_o joh._n troth_n 80._o whence_o have_v the_o water_n such_o force_n say_v he_o to_o touch_v the_o body_n and_o cleanse_v the_o heart_n but_o that_o the_o word_n work_v it_o and_o that_o not_o because_o it_o be_v speak_v but_o because_o it_o be_v believe_v therefore_o he_o call_v it_o according_a to_o the_o apostle_n 9_o apostle_n rom._n 10._o 8._o 9_o the_o word_n of_o faith_n because_o if_o thou_o confess_v with_o thy_o mouth_n the_o lord_n jesus_n and_o believe_v in_o thy_o heart_n that_o god_n raise_v he_o from_o the_o dead_a thou_o shall_v be_v save_v to_o this_o purpose_n he_o allege_v that_o god_n be_v say_v 9_o say_v act._n 15._o 9_o to_o cleanse_v the_o heart_n by_o faith_n and_o that_o of_o s._n peter_n that_o 21._o that_o 1._o pet._n 3._o 21._o baptism_n save_v we_o not_o the_o wash_n away_o the_o filth_n of_o the_o flesh_n that_o be_v not_o for_o the_o very_a work_n wrought_v but_o the_o answer_n of_o a_o good_a conscience_n towards_o god_n to_o this_o effect_n tertullian_n say_v carnis_fw-la say_v tertul_n de_fw-fr resurrect_v carnis_fw-la the_o soul_n be_v sanctify_v not_o by_o the_o wash_n of_o water_n but_o by_o the_o answer_n of_o faith_n and_o s._n austen_n again_o 59_o again_o august_n quae_fw-la vet_z &_o novi_fw-la test_n q._n 59_o he_o can_v attain_v the_o heavenly_a gift_n which_o think_v
defile_a clothes_n our_o cleanness_n then_o be_v in_o christ_n not_o in_o ourselves_o in_o his_o innocency_n we_o appear_v before_o god_n undefiled_a and_o white_a than_o snow_n not_o but_o that_o god_n cleanse_v we_o inward_o also_o but_o this_o cleanse_n be_v yet_o but_o in_o part_n and_o therefore_o we_o have_v still_o need_n of_o a_o cover_n to_o hide_v the_o remain_v of_o our_o uncleanness_n therefore_o howsoever_o the_o answ_n scorn_v a_o curtain_n as_o he_o speak_v to_o be_v draw_v before_o he_o to_o cover_v his_o sin_n yet_o s._n bernard_n embrace_v the_o righteousness_n of_o christ_n as_o a_o cloak_n or_o garment_n for_o that_o purpose_n o_o lord_n say_v he_o 〈◊〉_d he_o bernard_n ●●_o ca_o 〈…〉_o 〈◊〉_d i_o will_v make_v mention_n of_o thy_o righteousness_n only_o for_o that_o be_v i_o also_o for_o thou_o be_v of_o god_n make_v righteousness_n unto_o i_o shall_v i_o be_v afraid_a lest_o that_o one_o righteousness_n be_v not_o enough_o for_o we_o two_o it_o be_v not_o a_o short_a cloak_n or_o garment_n which_o can_v cover_v two_o thy_o righteousness_n be_v for_o ever_o it_o be_v large_a and_o everlasting_a and_o shall_v large_o cover_v both_o thou_o and_o i_o and_o in_o i_o sure_o it_o cover_v a_o multitude_n of_o sin_n but_o in_o thou_o o_o lord_n what_o but_o the_o treasure_n of_o piety_n the_o riches_n of_o goodness_n with_o this_o garment_n we_o desire_v to_o be_v clothe_v and_o to_o be_v find_v in_o christ_n as_o 9_o as_o phil._n 3._o 9_o s._n paul_n say_v not_o have_v our_o own_o righteousness_n which_o be_v by_o the_o law_n but_o the_o righteousness_n which_o be_v by_o the_o faith_n of_o christ_n as_o know_v that_o otherwise_o we_o can_v never_o endure_v to_o stand_v before_o the_o face_n of_o god_n but_o we_o say_v say_v the_o answ_n that_o we_o have_v inherent_a justice_n if_o he_o have_v so_o let_v he_o reap_v the_o benefit_n thereof_o but_o if_o a_o sinful_a man_n have_v open_v his_o mouth_n against_o heaven_n and_o say_v i_o be_o just_a his_o own_o conscience_n shall_v scourge_v he_o for_o it_o in_o due_a time_n contrariwise_o he_o deride_v impute_v justice_n as_o a_o ape_n of_o justification_n but_o let_v he_o remember_v that_o therein_o he_o have_v revile_v t●e_v spirit_n of_o god_n who_o in_o the_o four_o to_o the_o roman_n have_v by_o that_o word_n express_o set_v forth_o the_o justification_n of_o man_n before_o god_n 23._o god_n rom._n 4._o 5._o 6._o 3._o 23._o to_o he_o that_o believe_v in_o he_o that_o justifi_v the_o ungodly_a his_o faith_n be_v impute_v for_o righteousness_n david_n declare_v the_o blessedness_n of_o the_o man_n to_o who_o the_o lord_n impute_v righteousness_n without_o work_n abraham_n believe_v god_n and_o that_o be_v impute_v to_o he_o for_o righteousness_n and_o this_o be_v not_o write_v for_o he_o only_o that_o it_o be_v impute_v to_o he_o for_o righteousness_n but_o for_o we_o also_o to_o who_o it_o shall_v be_v impute_v believe_v in_o he_o that_o raise_v up_o jesus_n our_o lord_n from_o the_o dead_a etc._n etc._n where_o say_v in_o the_o future_a tense_n it_o shall_v be_v impute_v to_o we_o after_o that_o he_o have_v be_v now_o a_o long_a time_n a_o worthy_a apostle_n of_o christ_n he_o give_v to_o understand_v that_o that_o impute_v of_o righteousness_n without_o work_n as_o he_o have_v before_o term_v it_o be_v not_o only_o in_o the_o beginning_n but_o still_o to_o be_v his_o and_o our_o justification_n in_o the_o sight_n of_o god_n and_o so_o exclude_v that_o frivolous_a and_o shift_a distinction_n of_o first_o and_o second_o justification_n but_o thus_o do_v the_o apostle_n express_o avouch_v impute_v righteousness_n and_o i_o marvel_v that_o the_o answ_n and_o his_o fellow_n think_v so_o strange_o of_o impute_v the_o righteousness_n of_o christ_n unto_o we_o who_o yet_o defend_v the_o like_o impute_v of_o the_o righteousness_n and_o merit_n of_o other_o man_n this_o they_o teach_v and_o practice_v as_o 14._o as_o rhe._n annot._n 2._o cor._n 8._o 14._o concern_v their_o own_o beggarly_a and_o sinful_a devotion_n their_o moonkish_a and_o frierly_a observation_n their_o work_n of_o supererogation_n whereby_o they_o merit_v further_o than_o be_v needful_a for_o themselves_o and_o appoint_v this_o overplus_n to_o serve_v for_o the_o help_n and_o benefit_n of_o other_o be_v dispense_v apply_v and_o impute_v unto_o they_o by_o a_o pardon_n from_o the_o pope_n or_o from_o such_o as_o to_o who_o he_o give_v commission_n in_o that_o behalf_n so_o the_o friar_n here_o in_o england_n make_v man_n believe_v that_o 1527._o that_o out_o of_o the_o copy_n of_o a_o pardon_n grant_v by_o the_o armel●te_a friar_n in_o london_n in_o the_o year_n 1527._o they_o give_v they_o participation_n of_o all_o the_o mass_n prayer_n fasting_n watching_n preach_n abstinence_n indulgence_n labour_n and_o all_o good_a work_n that_o be_v do_v by_o the_o brethren_n of_o that_o order_n be_v here_o in_o england_n now_o with_o what_o face_n do_v these_o man_n deny_v that_o to_o the_o righteousness_n of_o christ_n which_o thus_o blasphemous_o they_o yield_v to_o the_o suppose_a righteousness_n of_o sinful_a man_n but_o so_o drink_v be_v they_o with_o their_o own_o fancy_n that_o whatsoever_o the_o holy_a scripture_n say_v it_o be_v but_o apishness_n if_o it_o be_v contrary_a to_o their_o conceit_n his_o description_n of_o justification_n be_v but_o his_o own_o and_o his_o fellow_n devise_v the_o bastard_n of_o the_o jesuite_n and_o schoolman_n let_v he_o bury_v it_o where_o it_o be_v bear_v s._n paul_n by_o the_o spirit_n and_o word_n of_o god_n purposely_o treat_v of_o justification_n to_o the_o roman_n and_o galatian_n to_o teach_v we_o what_o it_o be_v and_o wherein_o it_o consist_v he_o we_o follow_v and_o out_o of_o he_o describe_v and_o set_v forth_o justification_n in_o that_o manner_n as_o i_o have_v declare_v before_o but_o to_o countenance_v his_o matter_n he_o name_v s._n austen_n again_o in_o this_o place_n the_o best_a be_v he_o do_v but_o name_v he_o i_o must_v tell_v he_o that_o either_o he_o never_o read_v s._n austen_n or_o else_o understand_v he_o not_o we_o confess_v according_a to_o the_o word_n of_o god_n and_o the_o doctrine_n of_o s._n austen_n take_v from_o thence_o that_o god_n justify_v we_o and_o receive_v we_o into_o his_o favour_n by_o faith_n in_o christ_n do_v give_v unto_o we_o his_o holy_a spirit_n to_o renew_v we_o to_o holiness_n and_o righteousness_n of_o life_n wherein_o we_o be_v to_o increase_v from_o day_n to_o day_n but_o yet_o this_o newness_n be_v not_o such_o in_o this_o life_n as_o whereby_o we_o can_v stand_v just_a before_o the_o judgement_n seat_n of_o god_n nay_o we_o have_v still_o to_o cry_v out_o 4_o out_o rom._n 7._o ●_o 4_o unhappy_a man_n that_o i_o be_o who_o shall_v deliver_v i_o from_o the_o body_n of_o this_o death_n and_o again_o 12._o again_o mat._n 6._o 12._o o_o lord_n forgive_v we_o our_o trespass_n and_o again_o 2._o again_o psal_n 143._o 2._o enter_v not_o into_o judgement_n with_o thy_o servant_n for_o in_o thy_o sight_n shall_v no_o man_n live_v be_v find_v righteous_a thus_o have_v christian_a wisdom_n teach_v we_o to_o confess_v but_o what_o meaning_n do_v popish_a wisdom_n teach_v we_o to_o make_v of_o this_o christian_a confession_n we_o say_v forgive_v we_o our_o trespass_n say_v the_o answ_n for_o venial_a slip_n which_o hinder_v not_o justice_n and_o this_o he_o false_o collect_v out_o of_o a_o place_n of_o s._n austen_n where_o there_o be_v no_o mention_n or_o word_n of_o any_o such_o thing_n but_o i_o allege_v to_o he_o that_o s._n austen_n affirm_v that_o the_o very_a apostle_n themselves_o be_v to_o say_v so_o for_o this_o reason_n 142._o reason_n august_n in_o ●sal_n 142._o because_o no_o man_n living_n shall_v be_v find_v just_a before_o god_n the_o answ_n say_v we_o say_v so_o for_o venial_a slip_n which_o hinder_v not_o but_o that_o a_o man_n be_v just_a s._n austen_n say_v the_o apostle_n themselves_o be_v to_o say_v so_o for_o this_o cause_n because_o no_o man_n live_a shall_v be_v find_v just_a before_o god_n why_o do_v he_o pass_v over_o this_o without_o answer_n and_o without_o proof_n affirm_v that_o which_o be_v hereby_o overthrow_v as_o for_o venial_a sin_n we_o know_v none_o as_o touch_v their_o own_o nature_n because_o the_o scripture_n absolute_o say_v 23._o say_v rom._n 6._o 23._o the_o reward_n of_o sin_n be_v death_n and_o 10._o and_o gal_n 3._o 10._o cu●sed_v be_v every_o one_o that_o continue_v not_o in_o all_o thing_n that_o be_v write_v in_o the_o law_n therefore_o he_o that_o offend_v in_o any_o thing_n whatsoever_o be_v accurse_v by_o the_o law_n and_o the_o end_n of_o the_o curse_n be_v 41._o be_v mat._n 25._o 41._o everlasting_a fire_n as_o our_o saviour_n christ_n
that_o which_o be_v more_o fit_a and_o convenient_a to_o be_v speak_v and_o if_o these_o man_n have_v think_v that_o in_o proper_a speech_n it_o be_v true_a that_o christ_n be_v indeed_o offer_v or_o sacrifice_v to_o what_o purpose_n shall_v they_o have_v mention_v the_o offering_n of_o he_o adjoine_v thus_o or_o rather_o we_o work_v the_o remembrance_n of_o a_o sacrifice_n as_o to_o mollify_v that_o which_o be_v before_o hardly_o and_o unproper_o speak_v sure_o it_o have_v behove_v the_o answ_n for_o his_o honesty_n sake_n to_o show_v some_o reason_n why_o these_o man_n not_o talk_v of_o the_o death_n of_o christ_n but_o express_o of_o the_o sacrifice_n which_o it_o be_v say_v the_o church_n do_v offer_v and_o have_v mention_v the_o offering_n of_o sacrifice_n and_o the_o offering_n of_o christ_n shall_v so_o recall_v their_o word_n and_o in_o effect_n say_v nay_o we_o offer_v not_o a_o sacrifice_n indeed_o but_o rather_o perform_v the_o remembrance_n of_o a_o sacrifice_n but_o what_o can_v be_v more_o plain_a than_o that_o of_o theophylact_fw-mi 10._o theophylact_fw-mi theophyl_n in_o heb._n 10._o we_o offer_v he_o the_o same_o always_o or_o rather_o we_o make_v a_o remembrance_n of_o the_o offering_n of_o he_o as_o if_o he_o be_v now_o offer_v or_o sacrifice_v which_o word_n as_o if_o he_o be_v now_o offer_v make_v it_o as_o clear_a as_o the_o sun-light_n that_o christ_n be_v not_o now_o real_o and_o indeed_o offer_v in_o sacrifice_n for_o what_o reasonable_a man_n will_v ever_o say_v as_o if_o he_o be_v now_o offer_v if_o he_o be_v persuade_v that_o christ_n be_v now_o indeed_o and_o very_o offer_v to_o this_o purpose_n the_o word_n of_o eusebius_n also_o be_v very_o pregnant_a 10._o pregnant_a euseb_n de_fw-fr demonstr_n euan._n lib._n 1._o cap._n 10._o christ_n say_v he_o offer_v a_o sacrifice_n to_o his_o father_n and_o ordain_v that_o we_o shall_v offer_v a_o remembrance_n thereof_o unto_o god_n in_o steed_n of_o a_o sacrifice_n then_o christ_n ordain_v not_o another_o sacrifice_n to_o be_v offer_v as_o eusebius_n shall_v have_v say_v if_o he_o have_v be_v a_o papist_n but_o in_o steed_n of_o a_o sacrifice_n in_o steed_n i_o say_v of_o a_o sacrifice_n he_o ordain_v unto_o we_o to_o make_v a_o remembrance_n of_o his_o sacrifice_n certain_o these_o man_n if_o they_o have_v beléeve_v any_o such_o sacrifice_n as_o the_o papist_n now_o take_v upon_o they_o to_o practice_v can_v not_o have_v omit_v some_o plain_a declaration_n thereof_o be_v in_o the_o place_n whence_o i_o allege_v these_o word_n so_o direct_o and_o full_o occasion_v thereto_o the_o same_o i_o say_v much_o more_o of_o theodoret_n who_o so_o express_o propose_v the_o question_n of_o offer_v sacrifice_n ●_o sacrifice_n theodor._n in_o heb._n ●_o for_o if_o say_v he_o the_o priesthood_n which_o be_v by_o the_o law_n be_v end_v and_o the_o priest_n after_o the_o order_n of_o melchisedec_n have_v offer_v a_o sacrifice_n &_o have_v make_v that_o other_o sacrifice_n be_v not_o necessary_a why_o do_v the_o priest_n of_o the_o new_a testament_n work_v a_o mystical_a liturgy_n or_o sacrifice_n where_o if_o he_o will_v have_v answer_v as_o a_o papist_n he_o must_v have_v say_v that_o they_o do_v indeed_o offer_v a_o very_a true_a sacrifice_n proper_o so_o call_v of_o the_o very_a body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n and_o that_o this_o derogate_v not_o from_o the_o sacrifice_n of_o christ_n upon_o his_o cross_n but_o serve_v to_o apply_v the_o same_o unto_o we_o and_o that_o all_o the_o speech_n of_o the_o apostle_n against_o sacrifice_a do_v touch_v only_o the_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o jew_n but_o he_o as_o unacquainted_a with_o these_o popish_a devise_n answer_v simple_o &_o plain_o it_o be_v clear_a to_o they_o that_o be_v instruct_v in_o divine_a matter_n that_o we_o do_v not_o offer_v another_o sacrifice_n but_o do_v perform_v a_o remembrance_n of_o that_o one_o and_o healthful_a sacrifice_n for_o this_o commandment_n the_o lord_n himself_o give_v we_o say_v do_v this_o in_o remembrance_n of_o i_o that_o by_o behold_v the_o figure_n we_o may_v call_v to_o mind_v the_o suffering_n that_o he_o undertake_v for_o we_o etc._n etc._n by_o which_o word_n he_o plain_o show_v we_o that_o after_o that_o one_o and_o healthful_a sacrifice_n which_o christ_n offer_v for_o we_o which_o he_o express_v by_o the_o suffering_n of_o christ_n the_o priest_n of_o the_o new_a testament_n do_v not_o now_o offer_v another_o sacrifice_n but_o perform_v only_o a_o remembrance_n of_o that_o former_a sacrifice_n by_o those_o mystery_n which_o christ_n have_v leave_v to_o be_v celebrate_v in_o remembrance_n thereof_o let_v s._n austen_n yet_o make_v this_o more_o plain_a say_v that_o 21._o that_o august_n count_n faust●m_fw-la manich._n li._n 2d_o cap._n 21._o the_o flesh_n &_o blood_n of_o christ_n sacrifice_n be_v in_o his_o passion_n give_v in_o very_a truth_n after_o his_o ascension_n be_v celebrate_v by_o a_o sacrament_n of_o remembrance_n he_o make_v these_o diverse_a each_o from_o other_o to_o be_v give_v in_o very_a truth_n and_o to_o be_v celebrate_v by_o a_o sacrament_n of_o remembrance_n apply_v the_o one_o to_o his_o passion_n the_o other_o to_o the_o sacrament_n now_o if_o to_o be_v give_v in_o very_a truth_n belong_v to_o the_o sacrament_n also_o then_o s._n austen_n speak_v vain_o and_o idle_o &_o make_v a_o distinction_n without_o any_o difference_n but_o now_o oppose_v one_o to_o the_o other_o in_o very_a truth_n and_o by_o a_o sacrament_n of_o remembrance_n he_o show_v that_o in_o the_o sacrament_n of_o remembrance_n christ_n be_v not_o real_o and_o true_o sacrifice_v the_o answ_n think_v good_a to_o say_v nothing_o to_o that_o which_o i_o urge_v concern_v this_o opposition_n the_o other_o place_n of_o 23._o of_o august_n ep_v 23._o austen_n to_o bonifacius_n i_o open_v also_o somewhat_o unto_o he_o and_o full_o beforehand_o prevent_v he_o of_o his_o refuge_n in_o put_v difference_n betwixt_o christ_n death_n and_o christ_n himself_o and_o yet_o forsooth_o all_o this_o make_v nothing_o against_o he_o the_o best_a kind_n of_o bad_a answer_v when_o there_o be_v no_o good_a answer_n to_o serve_v the_o turn_n but_o s._n austen_n in_o that_o place_n note_v the_o offering_n of_o christ_n sacramento_fw-la christ_n semel_fw-la in_o seipso_fw-la singulis_fw-la diebu_fw-la in_o sacramento_fw-la in_o himself_o to_o have_v be_v once_o &_o that_o the_o offering_n which_o be_v say_v to_o be_v every_o day_n be_v in_o a_o sacrament_n or_o mystery_n &_o not_o in_o himself_o and_o to_o show_v the_o cause_n why_o he_o be_v say_v in_o a_o sacrament_n or_o mystery_n to_o be_v offer_v every_o day_n whereas_o in_o himself_o he_o be_v but_o once_o offer_v he_o say_v that_o because_o sacrament_n have_v the_o resemblance_n of_o those_o thing_n whereof_o they_o be_v sacrament_n therefore_o they_o common_o take_v unto_o they_o the_o name_n of_o the_o same_o thing_n even_o as_o good_a friday_n be_v say_v to_o be_v the_o day_n of_o christ_n passion_n &_o sunday_n to_o be_v the_o day_n of_o christ_n resurrection_n not_o because_o christ_n suffer_v every_o good_a friday_n or_o rise_v again_o every_o sunday_n but_o because_o these_o day_n resemble_v and_o in_o course_n of_o time_n be_v answerable_a to_o those_o day_n wherein_o christ_n suffer_v and_o rise_v again_o so_o therefore_o christ_n be_v say_v to_o be_v offer_v every_o day_n not_o because_o there_o be_v any_o real_a sacrifice_a of_o he_o every_o day_n but_o because_o his_o once_a offering_n of_o himself_o be_v daily_o in_o the_o sacrament_n figure_v and_o remember_v and_o this_o i_o show_v before_o out_o of_o the_o gloze_n of_o the_o canon_n law_n glosla_fw-la law_n de_fw-fr cons●●ra_fw-fr do_v 2._o cap._n se_fw-la mell_v in_o glosla_fw-la christ_n be_v offer_v that_o be_v the_o offering_z or_o sacrifice_v of_o christ_n be_v represent_v and_o a_o memory_n make_v of_o his_o passion_n which_o word_n the_o answ_n false_o and_o deceitful_o extenuate_v as_o if_o they_o serve_v no_o further_o but_o only_o to_o note_v a_o representation_n of_o christ_n death_n and_o passion_n which_o he_o yield_v unto_o whereas_o the_o word_n serve_v to_o expound_v what_o austen_n and_o prosper_n mean_v when_o they_o say_v that_o christ_n be_v offer_v or_o sacrifice_v in_o a_o sacrament_n and_o by_o the_o same_o exposition_n diminish_v the_o credit_n of_o the_o roomish_a sacrifice_n for_o if_o these_o word_n the_o offering_n or_o sacrifice_v of_o christ_n be_v represent_v and_o there_o be_v a_o memory_n make_v of_o his_o passion_n be_v the_o true_a meaning_n of_o these_o word_n christ_n be_v offer_v or_o sacrifice_v as_o the_o gloze_n set_v down_o what_o can_v be_v more_o evident_a to_o he_o that_o have_v eye_n to_o see_v then_o that_o austen_n and_o prosper_n &_o the_o other_o father_n when_o they_o mention_v sacrifice_n as_o touch_v the_o
lord_n supper_n do_v not_o thereby_o mean_a that_o christ_n be_v indeed_o and_o very_o offer_v but_o only_o that_o his_o sacrifice_n be_v represent_v the_o collection_n that_o i_o make_v before_o and_o even_o now_o note_v again_o out_o of_o that_o place_n of_o s._n austen_n stand_v firm_a &_o sure_a to_o this_o purpose_n namely_o that_o there_o be_v difference_n with_o austen_n betwixt_o be_v offer_v in_o himself_o and_o be_v offer_v in_o a_o sacrament_n or_o mystery_n and_o that_o the_o name_n of_o offering_n or_o sacrifice_v when_o it_o be_v refer_v to_o the_o sacrament_n be_v use_v not_o ex_fw-la rebus_fw-la ipsis_fw-la for_o the_o truth_n of_o the_o thing_n itself_o but_o for_o the_o resemblance_n of_o the_o thing_n and_o therefore_o import_v not_o the_o offering_n of_o christ_n in_o himself_o but_o this_o the_o answ_n will_v not_o see_v or_o take_v notice_n of_o because_o he_o shall_v have_v have_v nothing_o to_o write_v of_o this_o matter_n be_v thereby_o exclude_v already_o from_o all_o that_o he_o have_v now_o say_v for_o his_o shift_n be_v ●o_o put_v difference_n betwixt_o christ_n death_n and_o christ_n himself_o and_o to_o say_v that_o christ_n although_o he_o die_v no_o more_o yet_o be_v very_o sacrifice_v in_o himself_o and_o my_o collection_n be_v before_o direct_v to_o the_o contrary_a that_o christ_n be_v not_o now_o sacrifice_v in_o himself_o so_o that_o he_o show_v himself_o a_o stout_a disputer_n to_o let_v the_o premise_n go_v and_o deny_v the_o conclusion_n now_o the_o neck_n of_o his_o sacrifice_n be_v thus_o break_v in_o that_o it_o be_v prove_v that_o after_o the_o death_n of_o christ_n there_o be_v no_o more_o offering_n for_o sin_n that_o christ_n be_v not_o now_o offer_v in_o himself_o but_o only_o the_o sacrifice_a of_o his_o body_n on_o the_o cross_n celebrate_v by_o a_o sacrament_n of_o remembrance_n which_o yet_o be_v call_v by_o the_o name_n of_o sacrifice_n because_o sacrament_n be_v usual_o call_v by_o the_o name_n of_o those_o thing_n whereof_o they_o be_v sacrament_n and_o we_o therein_o call_v to_o mind_n and_o show_v christ_n death_n and_o offering_n of_o himself_o as_o if_o he_o be_v then_o present_o offer_v yet_o he_o set_v a_o good_a face_n upon_o the_o matter_n when_o nothing_o else_o will_v help_v he_o tell_v i_o that_o these_o thing_n touch_v he_o no_o more_o than_o the_o man_n in_o the_o moon_n &_o bid_v i_o to_o learn_v the_o state_n of_o the_o question_n better_o not_o to_o rove_v at_o random_n but_o to_o aim_v at_o the_o mark_n &_o to_o put_v up_o in_o my_o purse_n all_o those_o testimony_n that_o i_o do_v allege_v etc._n etc._n a_o easy_a and_o soone-made_a answer_n or_o rather_o a_o unshamefast_a &_o wretched_a shift_n but_o the_o young_a crab_n must_v go_v as_o the_o old_a crab_n do_v teach_v he_o and_o he_o must_v give_v such_o answer_n as_o other_o his_o forefather_n have_v be_v wont_a to_o do_v p._n spence_n sect._n 10._o wherefore_o all_o the_o premise_n consider_v whersoever_o all_o or_o any_o of_o your_o allege_v place_n do_v sound_v a_o remembrance_n memorial_n and_o representation_n of_o a_o sacrifice_n and_o such_o like_a word_n take_v this_o for_o a_o full_a answer_n that_o they_o be_v memory_n and_o remembrance_n representation_n and_o if_o you_o will_v figure_n too_o of_o the_o sacrifice_n of_o christ_n but_o what_o sacrifice_n the_o sacrifice_n of_o his_o death_n the_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o cross_n which_o we_o do_v but_o represent_v for_o die_v any_o more_o he_o now_o can_v and_o because_o we_o do_v not_o say_v that_o in_o our_o mass_n christ_n be_v crucify_v and_o die_v you_o do_v we_o wrong_v so_o to_o burden_n we_o which_o in_o no_o catholic_n writing_n you_o can_v show_v and_o therefore_o in_o press_v these_o authory_n against_o we_o you_o touch_v we_o no_o more_o than_o the_o man_n in_o the_o moon_n but_o you_o wrankle_v two_o way_n both_o in_o interpret_n sacrificium_fw-la here_o in_o these_o place_n to_o be_v eucharistia_n where_o it_o be_v mean_v of_o the_o offer_v the_o same_o in_o a_o sacrifice_n and_o not_o of_o it_o as_o it_o be_v absolute_o a_o sacrament_n only_o ●s_n though_o the_o sacrament_n be_v but_o a_o remembrance_n figure_n or_o representation_n and_o also_o second_o herein_o you_o wrangle_v for_o that_o you_o will_v bear_v we_o in_o hand_n the_o say_a authority_n to_o mean_v the_o thing_n represent_v figure_v or_o record_v to_o be_v christ_n body_n where_o they_o only_o call_v our_o sacrifice_n a_o remembrance_n figure_n and_o representation_n of_o christ_n passion_n and_o death_n upon_o the_o cross_n only_o once_o do_v and_o now_o never_o more_o to_o be_v do_v or_o reiterate_v but_o only_o to_o be_v record_v fygure_v and_o represent_v learn_v better_o hereafter_o the_o state_n of_o your_o question_n and_o rove_v not_o at_o random_n but_o aim_n at_o the_o mark_n and_o remember_v you_o fight_v not_o herein_o with_o we_o but_o you_o skirmish_n with_o your_o adversary_n in_o the●ire_n with_o argument_n feign_v forge_a and_o imagine_v of_o yourselves_o put_v study_n put_v a_o pattern_n how_o to_o answer_v any_o thing_n easy_o and_o without_o any_o study_n up_o therefore_o in_o your_o purse_n all_o your_o place_n of_o chrysostom_n ambrose_n the●phylact_fw-mi augustine_n cyprian_n aug._n ad_fw-la bona●acium_fw-la the_o gloze_v de_fw-fr consecrati●●e_n cyprian_a again_o and_o prosper_v alexander_n the_o pope_n and_o again_o chrysostome_n and_o h●erome_n and_o gregory_n etc._n etc._n for_o they_o say_v nothing_o for_o you_o but_o what_o we_o confess_v except_o you_o think_v we_o so_o mad_a to_o think_v that_o we_o use_v to_o crucify_v and_o slay_v christ_n in_o our_o church_n sacrifice_n a_o imagination_n fit_a for_o your_o merry_a gentleman_n the_o athenian_a we_o must_v also_o tell_v you_o that_o you_o overreach_v in_o writing_n that_o the_o death_n and_o passion_n of_o christ_n be_v the_o whole_a as_o much_o to_o say_v as_o the_o only_a matter_n &_o substance_n so_o you_o term_v it_o of_o this_o mystery_n christ_n real_a body_n be_v the_o matter_n substance_n and_o thing_n offer_v in_o our_o sacrifice_n real_o but_o his_o passion_n be_v with_o all_o offer_v but_o as_o in_o a_o commemoration_n so_o that_o our_o sacrifice_n have_v thing_n have_v nay_o it_o have_v many_o thing_n more_o than_o over_o christ_n or_o any_o of_o his_o apostle_n teach_v too_o thing_n two_o thing_n christ_n body_n real_o and_o his_o passion_n in_o a_o mystery_n only_o and_o a_o memory_n dolosus_fw-la versa●ur_fw-la in_o generalibus_fw-la i_o wish_v you_o to_o speak_v more_o distinct_o we_o grant_v with_o you_o his_o passion_n but_o that_o only_o represent_v we_o have_v also_o his_o body_n and_o blood_n and_o that_o very_o present_a very_o offer_v else_o all_o that_o you_o can_v infer_v of_o the_o aforesaid_a authority_n we_o also_o confess_v so_o far_o as_o glad_o as_o you_o do_v save_v that_o whereas_o you_o sa●e_v that_o it_o be_v no_o ma●●ell_n though_o the_o father_n call_v this_o mystery_n a_o sacrifice_n for_o they_o mean_v it_o be_v so_o call_v but_o be_v not_o so_o indeed_o that_o we_o yield_v not_o unto_o for_o we_o say_v the_o father_n call_v it_o a_o sacrifice_n because_o they_o mean_v as_o they_o speak_v and_o no_o where_n deny_v it_o and_o we_o can_v show_v if_o there_o be_v any_o weight_n in_o your_o reason_n to_o press_v we_o so_o far_o where_o the_o father_n give_v reason_n why_o it_o be_v a_o sacrifice_n because_o know_v because_o a_o roomish_a devise_n which_o there_o be_v never_o know_v the_o bloody_a sacrifice_n of_o the_o cross_n and_o death_n be_v offer_v and_o sacrifice_a man_n unbloodie_a sacrifice_n ch●●st_v himself_o be_v very_o offer_v his_o death_n only_o record_v with_o thanksgiving_n and_o by_o this_o unbloodie_a sacrifice_n of_o christ_n very_a body_n the_o virtue_n of_o that_o bloody_a sacrifice_n be_v daily_o apply_v to_o the_o faithful_a and_o therefore_o where_o you_o ask_v whether_o christ_n indeed_o do_v show_v do_v either_o he_o real_o suffer_v and_o death_n in_o the_o mass_n or_o else_o he_o be_v not_o real_o offer_v the_o father_n speak_v of_o both_o alike_o as_o i_o show_v real_o suffer_v in_o the_o church_n sacrifice_n or_o sweat_v water_n and_o blood_n or_o be_v condemn_v or_o nail_v to_o the_o cross_n they_o be_v idle_a fantastical_a question_n but_o to_o answer_v you_o we_o do_v not_o think_v so_o be_v of_o good_a cheer_n man_n we_o do_v not_o think_v so_o we_o never_o think_v say_v or_o mass_n or_o doct._n allen_n have_v write_v that_o christ_n i●_n very_o slay_v in_o the_o mass_n write_v so_o yet_o we_o think_v and_o till_o you_o come_v near_o the_o mark_n we_o will_v still_o so_o think_v that_o unbloody_o but_o real_o we_o sacrifice_v and_o offer_v the_o same_o christ_n very_a true_a body_n and_o blood_n to_o the_o whole_a trinity_n for_o