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this_o appear_v because_o they_o allow_v of_o sundry_a ceremony_n not_o praescribe_v in_o the_o word_n now_o except_o he_o can_v prove_v they_o be_v not_o as_o deaf_a on_o this_o the_o ceremonial_a ear_n or_o side_n as_o they_o be_v on_o the_o other_o or_o that_o they_o do_v not_o leave_v their_o sound_a general_n in_o the_o particular_n of_o ceremony_n as_o well_o or_o ill_o as_o in_o other_o this_o occasion_n especial_o with_o his_o affect_a exaggeration_n if_o it_o be_v not_o impossible_a and_o that_o the_o rejoynder_n can_v prove_v this_o d._n morton_n show_v in_o his_o appeal_n pag._n 324._o they_o that_o err_v in_o point_n of_o doctrine_n can_v not_o be_v altogether_o free_a from_o some_o sprinkling_n and_o spot_n of_o ceremonial_a corruption_n moreover_o how_o the_o best_a of_o those_o ancient_a writer_n allow_v of_o sundry_a humane_a ceremony_n then_o in_o use_n augustine_n show_v epist_n 119._o audeo_fw-la multa_fw-la husuâ—modi_fw-la propter_fw-la nonnullarum_fw-la vel_fw-la sanctarum_fw-la vel_fw-la turbulentarum_fw-la personaâ—um_fw-la scandala_fw-la dâ—vitanda_fw-la liberius_fw-la imâ—â—obare_fw-la non_fw-la audeo_fw-la many_o such_o thing_n i_o dare_v not_o so_o free_o gainsay_v to_o avoâ—de_v the_o offence_n partly_o of_o some_o holy_a mind_n and_o partly_o of_o some_o turbulent_a spirit_n which_o be_v the_o very_a case_n of_o the_o best_a english_a divine_n that_o do_v so_o spare_o speak_v against_o our_o ceremony_n and_o yet_o sufficient_o insinuat_fw-la that_o they_o will_v speak_v more_o if_o they_o dare_v for_o the_o time_n how_o also_o our_o divine_n do_v not_o blush_v to_o allege_v their_o testimony_n against_o humane_a ceremon_n though_o they_o know_v that_o in_o other_o place_n they_o speak_v for_o they_o this_o may_v be_v see_v in_o d._n whitaker_n tom_fw-mi 1._o pag._n 116._o insumam_fw-la augustinuâ—_n nâ—s_o illis_fw-la paucissim_fw-la ceremonijs_fw-la contentâ—s_fw-la esse_fw-la vulâ—_n quae_fw-la in_o canonicis_fw-la scripture_n 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hezechias_n will_v have_v show_v no_o more_o courtesy_n than_o he_o do_v to_o the_o brazen_a serpent_n so_o pelicanus_n upon_o the_o place_n collect_v we_o must_v ceremonize_v according_a to_o god_n word_n only_o solum_fw-la ceremoniandum_fw-la est_fw-la secundum_fw-la verbum_fw-la dei_fw-la solum_fw-la as_o upon_o leu._n 26.1_o even_o triumphal_a statue_n be_v forbid_v triumphalem_fw-la statuam_fw-la erigi_fw-la prohibet_fw-la etiam_fw-la triumphalem_fw-la and_o lyra_n the_o memory_n of_o idolatry_n be_v total_o to_o be_v wipe_v out_o delonda_fw-la memoria_fw-la idololatriae_fw-la totaliter_fw-la delonda_fw-la 4._o the_o def._n object_v jacobs_n pillar_n gen._n 28.18_o so_o â—ayth_o the_o replieâ—_n he_o do_v offer_v sacrifice_n in_o other_o manner_n and_o place_n then_o after_o the_o law_n be_v lawful_a to_o this_o the_o rejoynder_n answer_v 1._o that_o that_o which_o jacob_n do_v be_v not_o unlawful_a by_o the_o moral_a law_n but_o he_o be_v mistake_v not_o distinguish_v betwixt_o the_o moral_a law_n forbid_v religious_a ceremeny_v of_o mere_a human_a appointment_n and_o allow_v the_o same_o derive_v from_o divine_a inspiration_n so_o tertullian_n the_o idol_n cap._n 5._o answer_v he_o that_o defend_v image_n by_o the_o brazen_a serpent_n idem_fw-la deus_fw-la qui_fw-la lege_fw-la â—etuit_fw-la similitudinem_fw-la fieri_fw-la extraordinario_fw-la praecepto_fw-la serpentis_fw-la â—imilitudinem_fw-la indixit_fw-la si_fw-mi eundem_fw-la deum_fw-la observas_fw-la habes_fw-la leâ—em_fw-la ejus_fw-la imitare_fw-la tu_fw-la mosem_fw-la ne_fw-la facias_fw-la adversus_fw-la legem_fw-la simuâ—achrum_fw-la aliquid_fw-la nisi_fw-la &_o tibi_fw-la deus_fw-la jusserit_fw-la 1._o e._n the_o same_o god_n which_o in_o his_o law_n forbid_v image_n do_v extraordinary_o command_v the_o image_n of_o a_o serpent_n if_o thou_o will_v obey_v that_o god_n thou_o have_v his_o law_n imitate_v thou_o moses_n not_o make_v any_o image_n contrary_a to_o the_o law_n except_o god_n command_v thou_o so_o all_o our_o divine_n in_o answer_n of_o papist_n object_v this_o &_o such_o like_a example_n for_o will-worship_n refer_v these_o do_n to_o divine_a revelation_n or_o instinct_n among_o these_o for_o this_o cause_n â—_o reckon_v d._n jackson_n who_o in_o his_o original_a pag._n 332._o give_v we_o this_o catholic_n remedy_n and_o rule_v serious_o to_o be_v consider_v such_o action_n as_o have_v be_v manage_v by_o god_n spirit_n suggest_v by_o secret_a instinct_n or_o extract_v by_o extraordinary_a and_o special_a occasion_n be_v then_o only_o lawful_a in_o other_o when_o they_o be_v beget_v by_o like_a occasion_n or_o bring_v forth_o by_o like_a impulsion_n 5._o to_o hos._n 2.16.17_o where_o the_o very_a name_n of_o baal_n seem_v to_o be_v forbid_v because_o it_o have_v be_v give_v unto_o idol_n the_o defend_v answer_v say_v the_o rej._n implicit_o i._n e._n so_o as_o i_o have_v now_o answer_v to_o all_o that_o he_o have_v bring_v about_o this_o four_o argument_n but_o he_o undertake_v by_o a_o little_a change_n of_o word_n to_o make_v that_o answer_n satisfactory_a for_o this_o end_n he_o allege_v first_o that_o the_o word_n baal_n in_o religious_a use_n and_o application_n be_v originaly_a oâ—_n from_o the_o first_o use_n of_o it_o evil_a because_o before_o moses_n be_v bear_v the_o great_a and_o common_a idol_n of_o the_o gentile_n be_v markeâ—_n out_o by_o it_o as_o by_o a_o proper_a name_n but_o 1._o if_o the_o civil_a use_n of_o this_o word_n be_v originaly_a good_a that_o be_v sufficient_a to_o our_o purpose_n for_o our_o argument_n speak_v only_o generaly_a oâ—_n good_a original_n and_o beginning_n 2._o if_o this_o word_n baal_n do_v origina_o signify_v lord_n master_n husband_n as_o it_o be_v genera_o take_v then_o by_o the_o rej._n his_o interpretation_n it_o do_v origina_o signify_v a_o religious_a relation_n for_o he_o hold_v every_o sign_n of_o a_o servant_n duty_n for_o conscience_n sake_n to_o be_v a_o mystical_a sign_n of_o a_o spiritual_a duty_n pag._n 314._o and_o be_v not_o every_o sign_n of_o a_o lord_n master_n or_o husband_n duty_n or_o state_n for_o conscience_n sake_n of_o the_o same_o nature_n 3._o there_o be_v some_o quaestion_n among_o the_o learned_a whether_o baal_n be_v derive_v from_o king_n bel_n or_o king_n bell_n name_n from_o baal_n the_o most_o probable_a opinion_n be_v the_o late_a as_o sir_n walter_n raugh_o show_v lib._n 1._o c._n 10._o sect_n 6._o because_o bel_n beel_n or_o baal_n be_v as_o much_o to_o say_v as_o god_n and_o arias_n montanus_n in_o hos._n 2._o say_v it_o signify_v numen_fw-la or_o the_o chief_n sovereign_a power_n whatsoever_o it_o be_v without_o restraint_n to_o this_o or_o that_o idol_n now_o if_o this_o be_v so_o what_o more_o evil_a be_v there_o in_o the_o first_o use_n of_o the_o name_n baal_n then_o of_o god_n 6._o in_o the_o next_o place_n the_o rej._n undertake_v to_o prove_v that_o all_o religious_a use_n of_o this_o word_n baal_n in_o application_n to_o god_n be_v not_o forbid_v but_o only_o as_o it_o may_v further_o â—he_v practice_v or_o bear_v the_o appearance_n of_o gross_a idolatry_n in_o which_o answer_n if_o he_o do_v not_o distinguish_v gross_a idolatry_n from_o slight_a nor_o have_v any_o mental_a reservation_n about_o appearance_n nor_o yet_o take_v might_n further_o otherwise_o then_o â—he_v word_n sound_a he_o say_v nothing_o but_o that_o which_o we_o â—ot_n only_o grant_v but_o also_o make_v our_o plea._n to_o this_o end_n â—e_n allege_v the_o use_n of_o it_o in_o is._n 54.5_o jer._n 31.33_o nah._n 1.2_o â—o_o which_o i_o answer_v 1._o the_o lord_n in_o this_o place_n of_o hos._n do_v â—ot_n speak_v of_o every_o time_n but_o of_o that_o day_n 2._o he_o do_v not_o â—orbid_v himself_o to_o use_v this_o or_o that_o term_n at_o his_o pleasure_n â—ut_v man_n 3._o the_o word_n baal_n is._n 54._o jer._n 31._o seem_v to_o be_v use_v in_o a_o allusion_n only_o reprove_v and_o upbraid_v the_o idolatry_n of_o the_o people_n which_o have_v follow_v baal_n as_o â—â—ewing_v that_o what_o they_o have_v seek_v for_o in_o baal_n be_v to_o â—e_v find_v only_o in_o jehovah_n otherwise_o it_o may_v be_v answer_v that_o the_o word_n appellative_a be_v use_v without_o any_o reflection_n unto_o the_o proper_a and_o nah._n 1._o it_o be_v no_o more_o giâ—en_n to_o jehovah_n than_o the_o name_n idol_n be_v give_v to_o man_n whenâ—n_o worthy_a teacher_n be_v call_v idol-shepheard_n or_o then_o â—he_v name_n jehovah_n be_v give_v to_o dumb_a creature_n when_o â—hey_n be_v call_v jehovah_n jireh_n gen._n 22._o jehovah_n nissi_n ex._n 17._o â—ehovah_o shammah_o ezech._n 48._o 7._o he_o bring_v four_o interpretation_n of_o the_o place_n of_o which_o the_o first_o only_o as_o he_o say_v may_v serve_v our_o turn_n â—n_o any_o part_n but_o the_o first_o three_o and_o four_o be_v in_o diâ—ers_n interpreter_n conjoin_v and_o there_o be_v scarce_o any_o grave_a interpreter_n which_o do_v not_o gather_v so_o much_o from_o the_o
to_o see_v the_o mark_n and_o sign_n of_o idolatry_n and_o that_o we_o must_v to_o the_o utmost_a of_o our_o power_n deface_v they_o the_o rejoynder_n answer_v that_o he_o speak_v this_o of_o proper_a instrument_n and_o monument_n of_o idolatry_n and_o namely_o of_o image_n which_o we_o willing_o grant_v except_o he_o mean_v by_o proper_a such_o as_o never_o any_o beside_o idolater_n either_o before_o since_o or_o at_o the_o same_o time_n do_v use_v and_o we_o add_v that_o the_o cross_n be_v more_o than_o a_o proper_a instrument_n of_o idolatry_n because_o it_o be_v a_o idol_n neither_o have_v either_o the_o defend_v or_o rejoynd_v deny_v as_o yet_o that_o it_o be_v a_o idol_n we_o add_v also_o that_o mystical_a ceremony_n be_v in_o calvin_n phrase_n image_n either_o live_a such_o as_o god_n institution_n or_o dead_a as_o man_n invention_n inst._n lib._n 8._o cap._n 11._o sect_n 13._o add_v last_o that_o see_v the_o def._n and_o rej._n have_v admit_v historical_a image_n as_o of_o 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