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A67420 More news from Rome, or, Magna Charta discoursed of between a poor man & his wife as also a new font erected in the cathedral-church at Gloucester in October 1663, and consecrated by the reverend moderate bishop, Dr. William Nicolson ... : as also an assertion of Dr. William Warmstrey ... wherein he affirmeth that it is a lesser sin for a man to kill his father than to refrain coming to the divine service established in the Church of England ... Wallis, Ralph, d. 1669. 1666 (1666) Wing W616; ESTC R15738 46,742 50

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and talk over three or four sheets more now tell me what you did mean by Magna Charta Hus Wife I am ready to make good my word W. But Husband if it please you we will goto Bed for our Coals will scarcely make a fire in the morning and there will be hardly any to be had at the Key H. Wife I am contented W. Husband put out the Candle for that peice of Watch-light is all the Candle we have in the House and good Husband be serious an this thing without flashes H. Now I will tell you what I did mean by Magna Charta and shall be serious When in the dayes of Henry the third there was a great War between the King and his Barrons which began in his Fathers dayes and continued in his time for many years and both sides began to be weary it came to this Refult and Conclusion That there should be a Writing drawn up between them which should express the Prerogative Royal of the King and his Subjects Priviledges which being decreed in High Court of Parliament was called Magna Charta which was to be a standing Law to the Nation In which sence I call the Sacred Scriptures Magna Charta but more especially the New-Testament in which are expressed Christ's Prerogatives and his Subjects Priviledges and that by a perpetual Decree in the Court of Heaven unalterable irrevocable The Lord Cooke in the second part of his Institutes speaking of the Magna Charta of the Nation saith That although it be but small in comparison of other Writings yet it is of great use As Alexander the Great was but a little man yet he was R●● Magnus a Great King and so it may be said of this Magna Charta although it be but small in comparison of other Volumns yet it is of greatest use and proceeds from Rex Maximus the Gaeatest King figured out by Solomon Ezr. 5. 12. We are the Servants of the Great God and build the House which was builded long ago which a Great King of Israel set up and behold a greater than Solomon is here Nay He is both King Law-giver and Judge Isa 33. 22. and by this Magna Charta he will judge the World so saith Paul When Jesus Christ shall judge the hearts of all men according to my Gospel This Magna Charta is the only Magna Charta and is of greatest use other Magna Charta's may be smutted with the Smoak of a Chimney or as Oliver Cromwel said What tell you me of Magna Charta Magna Farta the Petition of Right the Petition of but this Magna Charta is undefiled Pure and Permanent Heaven and Earth shall pass away but not one jot or one tittle of this Magna Charta until all things in it be fulfilled And however the Author of this Magna Charta by Hereditary Right is Heir apparent to the whole World and hath all Kingdoms at his disposal for by him Kings Reign and Princes decree Justice and must vail their Crowns unto Him and give an account how they carry themselves in these great Places of Trust committed to them and of their Stewardships when they may be no longer Stewards Yet is he an absolute Monarch And as the Father hath delivered up the Kingdom unto him and given all power both in Heaven and Earth into his hand So also hath he another Kingdom distinct from the Kingdoms of the World which receives Power and Authority from him to manage all the affairs of the same without the assistance of Civil or Ecclesiastical Power who by a Covenant of Grace reconciling them unto himself by Faith in his own most precious Blood to whom he hath made many precious Promises which are the Priviledges he bestoweth on them as first He that overcometh shall eate of the Tree that is in the midst of the Paradise of God They shall have a white Stone given them which no man knoweth but he that hath it that they have free access to the Throne of Grace that he that toucheth them toucheth the Apple of his Eye that although all the world be his yet they are his chiefest Treasure they are bone of his bone and flesh of his flesh and such honour have all his Saints Many more are the Priviledges he bestows upon them which a Volumn would scarcely contain All which are contained in this his Magna Charta and of such People doth his Kingdom consist and such are the Subjects of his Kingdom And the Tabernacle which the Lord hath pitched and not man shadowed forth in the Tabernacle which Moses instituted at God's Command for saith he See thou make all things according to the Pattern shewed thee in the Mount and Moses did every thing precisely Secundum formam or Secundum similitudinem after the form fashion or likeness of it And Christ was faithful to Him that appointed him as Moses was Moses as a Servant Christ as a Son and as Moses's Institutions were Rules for the Church of the Jews so Christ's Institutions in Gospel-times are for the Churches of Christ to walk by which are contained in this his Magna Charta his last Will and Testament teaching them what to do What Men or Magistrates command No Whatsoever I have commanded you And if Nadab and Abihu where smitten with death by strange fire from Heaven for offering strange fire which was but a small matter as men may think to take fire from the Hearth or else where when they should have taken it from the Altar yet not being according to the Institution see what came of it And if the least abberration deviation or going aside from the Law be damnable in point of Divine Justice Is it a less sin to go aside from the Rule of the Gospel If he that sinned against Mases Law was so severely punished of how much sorer Punishment shall he be worthy of c. And if there be a Curse denounced against those that add to his Word is it not a sin to add to his VVorship the Lord complains of it by Ezekiel They set up their Posts by my Posts and their Thresholds by my Thresholds And now I have told you what I did mean by Magna Charta And whatsoever is used in the VVorship of God being not founded upon a Gospel-Institution and cannot be warranted by a Gospel-Rule is Superstition a Vain Religion Who required these things at your hands In vain do they worship me teaching for Doctrine the precepts of men And now I hope VVife I have answered your request in being Serious and you cannot but assent unto the truth of it VV. Husband I am satisfied concerning the truth of it but for the information of my Children tell me where lies the difference between the Church of the Jews under the Law and the Church of the Gentiles under the Gospel H. VVife the Church of the Jews under the Law was the Seed of Abraham after the flesh by vertue of the Covenant which God made with
as we say in a Proverb Like an Owl in an Ivie Tree and so do they love the King and kindly embrace and with pretended affections and plausible terms express themselves because they draw sap from him and are good for little but to harbour a sort of blind Priests as very Moles as themselves 't is but Cupboard-love all for the belly For man can be but for himself in every action until the Love of God be wrought in him Every good thing the Philosopher tells us is of a diffusive nature fire and water are communicable creatures So is Love when it proceeds from a right principle I cannot parallel their love to the King more fitly than in my love to you I saw that in you which as I conceived might make me happy and did much affect me one of a good report of a sober life and hansome carriage with other endowments I gave you good words and cogg'd and daub'd as fast as they it may be and all this while I was but my self in it Poor woman it had been better for you if you had never seen my face So may the Majestical Oak say one day Would I had never seen the face of Dr. Ivie I have seen a stately Oake flourish without an Ivie-bush W. Husband I pray you be saber in your expressions and be not bitter towards them we should love our enemies H. Wife I am not a man of that frame or temper of spirit like Sir Jocelin Pearcie who after the Gunpowder-Treason brake out into great laughter and being demanded wherefore he laughed answered I cannot but laugh to think if the design had took how the Bishops would have flown up in the air like so many Magg-Pies Seriously Wife I love their Persons although I hate their Pybald Worship I wish their eternal welfare and that they would cry down the sins of the times Idolatry Superstition Swearing Whoring fearful Imprecations Dammum and Rammuns The Devil fry my soul in Brimstons c. which are fit materials to build Fortifications against the Invasion of Mercles and will serve as fitly to draw the floodgates and sluces for the incursion and bringing-in of Wrath and Vengeance and will do more miscief than the Walls of Northampton Coventry or Glancestor if re-standing To keep up sin and throw down stones is but poor policy When the Children of Israel served strange gods then there was war in the gates And let them give over the prosecution of the Phanaticks for they 'l never give over praying until they have prayed them down Let them remember the Queen of Scots in Edward the sixh's dayes as I take it who sent an Army into England but before sent privily to know which side John Knox and his party took saying She feared more the Prayers of him and his party than all the Kings Army And set our moderate Bishop leave his conjunction with his near relation the Papist in saying that the Presbyterians were like Lorinus the Jesuite who held it lawful to take away the life of Princes Let him mind his brother Gauden Bishop of Wotcester who said that the Presbyterians were like the discease called the Strangury which was froth on the top and blood in the bottom of which disease himself dyed and his predecessor Dr. Goodman who made this Confession dying in the Imbrit at Westminister That he died a Roman Catholick But to give the Patriarch his due I think he was one of the best of them But how can there be a Superlative where there is no Positive a bast where there is not a good W. Husband we have talk though of this will you speak of Doctor Warmstrey's Opinion Dean of Worcester H. Wife which of his Opinions do you mean either that which he delivered about observation of Holy-dayes from David's Example When I see the Moon and the Stars which thou hast ordained David as he sayes walking forth in the night took special observation of the Stars placed in the Firmament so should we take special observation of the Saints who have been as Stars in the Firmament of the Church and therefore a day of Solemnity in commemoration of them we should not let pass Or 2dly do you mean that opinion of the observation of Lent from the example of Danel's eating of Pulse and drinking of water for certain dayes and from that example of his would ground the observation of Lent If you mean either of these I shall say nothing but this If he had grounded his opinion from Fortune my foe why dost thou frown on me or the other In the dayes of old when fair France did flourish these places would have held out the truth of his opinions aswel as those Texts of Scripture Or 3dly do you mean Local the scension which he holds that Christ went down into Hell into the place of the damned in me hamine body Or 4thly That the Doctor hath power to forgive sion not alone declaratively but absolutely If these I 'le not adventure to deal with him for I know the Pope will take his part and two to one is ods at Footbal I being but one poor man they may be too hard for me W. No Husband Neither do I mean his crying down of Gloucester for a bloody City and for Rebellion that he did passing well he could not but deliver the Message he was sent for that purpose H. VVife you say he did it passing well I pick something out of that word of yours passing well but I 'le say no more But I wonder he staid so long before he brought the Message None of all the Lord's Prophets had so much time given them when they were sent forth their Commissions were presently to be put in execution The young Prophet must neither eat bread nor drink water before he was to deliver his Message but the Doctor staid fifteen years before he brought his It 's to be suspected whether he be not guilty of the Rebellion much mischief might have been prevented had not he delayed time but when all was past and ended then comes this Prophet with his Message Censitium post facta imber post tempora fiugum as the Poet speaks Counsel after the fact is like a shower of rain after Harvest to fill the Corn When the † Gunpowder-Treason Traytors were hang'd then came the Pope's Pardon But he came not until the Message would bring meat in the mouth of it his Prebends place at Gloacester and a thousand pounds for the Crop as his man calls it and 2001. per annum at Hampton with his Message altogether chopt in his mouth it 's a wonder it had not choak'd him What 's become of all those souls which died in those fifteenyears the comfort on 't is if in Purgatory he is or may be as prevalent a man with the Pope to setch them forth as any I know W. Husband name that about a man killing his own Father H. VVife I understand now what you mean thus