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A96422 Strength out of weakness. Or A glorious manifestation of the further progresse of the gospel amongst the Indians in New-England. Held forth in sundry letters from divers ministers and others to the corporation established by Parliament for promoting the gospel among the heathen in New-England; and to particular members thereof since the last treatise to that effect, / formerly set forth by Mr Henry Whitfield late pastor of Gilford in New-England. ; Published by the aforesaid corporation. Gouge, William, 1578-1653.; Whitfield, Henry, 1597-1660?; Eliot, John, 1604-1690.; Wilson, John, 1588-1667.; Leverich, William, d. 1677.; Bessey, Anthony, 1609?-1657?; Mayhew, Thomas, 1621-1657.; Endecott, John, 1588?-1665.; French, William, 1603?-1681.; Allen, Thomas, 1608-1673.; Society for Propagation of the Gospel in New England. 1652 (1652) Wing W2002; ESTC R223436 37,294 59

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out of Reverence to the Command o● the Lord when such as had not that principle were farre from such workes of mercy it pleased God to try them in the time of the Pox for some of them did hazard their owne lives for to them it is very mortall in obedience to the Command of the Lord to shew mercy to them that were sicke and some were infected thereby and fell sicke and lay with much chearefullnesse and patience under Gods hand and through the Lords mercy are well againe others who did shew mercy in that case escaped the sicknesse to the praise of God Likewise God is pleased to try their Charitie by an old Paraliticke or Palsie sick-man whose owne Children being prophane and tyred with the burthen of him his retentive power of houlding excrements being loosened and having a loosenesse sometimes he is very noysome and burthensome they forsooke him and he had perished but that the Lord stirred up by the word of his grace their hearts to shew mercy to him for he was while he was sicke at six shilling a weeke charge for wee offered twelve-pence a night to any to tend him and for meere hyre none would abide it but out of mercy and Charitie some of the Families did take care of him and gave freely some weeks and others were payd out of their publique money namely such as hath been taken off such as have been Transgressors by Fine or Mulct and still he is at foure shillings a weeke charge being better in health in so much that all their publique money is spent and much more and wee have Collections among them for the same use The old man who hath been and still is wise doth wisely testifie that their love is sincere and that they truely pray to God and I hope so doth he and shall be saved I could with a word speaking in our Churches have this poore man relived but I doe not because I thinke the Lord hath done it for the tryall of their grace and exercise of their love and to traine them up in works of Charitie and in the way of Christ to make Collections for the poore I see how the Lord provideth to further the progresse of the Gospel by these tryalls and afflictions yea there be more passages of this winters worke wherein the Lord hath taught us by the Crosse For one of our first and principall men is dead which though it be a great blow and damping to our worke in some Respects yet the Lord hath not left the rest to discouragement thereby nay the worke is greatly furthered for hee made so gracious an end of his life and imbraced death with such holy submission to the Lord and was so little terrified at it as that it hath greatly strengthened the Faith of the living to be constant and not to feare death greatly commending of the death of Wamporas for that was his name I thinke he did more good by his death then he could have done by his life one of his sayings was That God giveth us three mercies in this world the first is health and strength the second is food and cloaths the third is sicknesse and death and when wee have had our share in the two first why should wee not be willing to take our part in the third for his part he was I heard him speake thus and at other times also and at his last he so spake and it so tooke with them that I observe it in their prayers that they so reckon up Gods dispensations to them his last words which he spake in this world were these Jehova Aninnumah Jesus Christ that is Oh Lord give mee Jesus Christ and when hee could speake no more he continued to lift up his hands to Heaven according as his strength lasted unto his last breath so that they say of him he dyed praying when I visited him the last time that I saw him in this world not doubting but I shall see him againe with Christ in Glory one of his sayings was this Foure yeares and a Quarter since I came to your house and brought some of our Children to dwell with the English now I dye I strongly intreate you for that is their phrase that you would strongly intreate Elder Heath with whom his Sonne liveth and the rest which have our Children that they may be taught to know God so as that they may teach their Countrymen because such an example would doe great good among them his heart was much upon our intended worke to gather a Church among them I told him I greatly desired that he might live if it were Gods will to be one in that worke but if he should now dye he should goe to a better Church where Abraham and Isaac and Jacob and Moses and all the dead Saints were with Jesus Christ in the presence of God in all happinesse and Glory he said he feared not death he was willing to dye and turning to the Company which were present hee spake unto them thus I now shall dye but Jesus Christ calleth you that live to goe to Naticke that there the Lord might rule over you that you might make a Church and have the Ordinance of God among you believe in his Word and doe as hee commandeth you With many such words exhorting them which they could not heare without weeping A little before his death hee spake many gracious words unto them wherein one passage was this Some delight to heare and speake idle and foolish words but I desire to heare and speake onely the words of God exhorting them so to doe likewise his gracious words were acceptable and affecting that whereas they used to flie and avoyde with terrour such as lye dying now on the contrary they flocked together to heare his dying words whose death and buriall they beheld with many teares nor am I able to write his Storie without weeping Another affliction and damping to our worke was this that it hath pleased God to take away that Indian who was most active in Carpentrey and who had framed me an house with a little direction of some English whom I sometime procured to goe with mee to guide him and to set out his worke hee dyed of the Pox this winter so that our house lyeth not yet raised which maketh my aboade amongst them more difficult and my tarriance shorter then else I would but the Lord helpeth me to remember that he hath said Endure thou hardnesse as a good Souldier of Jesus Christ These are some of the gracious tryalls and Corrections the Lord hath exercised us withall yet he hath mingled them with much love and favour in other respects for it hath pleased God this winter much to inlarge the abilitie of him whose helpe I use in translating the Scriptures which I account a great furtherance of that which I most desire namely to communicate unto to them as much of the Scriptures in their owne language as I am able Besides it
Strength out of Weakness Or a Glorious MANIFESTATION Of the further Progresse of the GOSPEL AMONGST THE INDIANS IN NEW-ENGLAND Held forth in sundry LETTERS from divers Ministers and others to the Corporation established by Parliament for promoting the Gospel among the Heathen in New-England and to particular Members thereof since the last Treatise to that effect formerly set forth by Mr Henry Whitfield late Pastor of Gilford in New-England Published by the aforesaid Corporation CANT. 8. 8. Wee have a little Sister and she hath no breasts what shall we doe for our Sister in the day that she shall be spoken for LONDON Printed by M. Simmons for John Blague and Samuel Howes and are to be sold at their Shop in Popes Head-Alley 1652. TO THE SUPREAME AUTHORITIE OF THIS NATION The Parliament of the Common-Wealth of ENGLAND THat the Fathers joy at the returning of a Spend-thrift Sonne ought to have an influence upon the whole Family of Heaven and Earth that is called after his name to worke their suitable affections and conformity to himselfe cannot be questioned by any true childe thereof Behold then Right Honourable a call thereunto Poore Prodigalls who have not only with our selves lost that rich Treasure of grace and holinesse wherewith in our Common roote and Fountaine we were entrusted but also in a course of Rebellion for many Generations wasted the remainder of Natures Riches to the utmost degeneracy that an Immortall rationall being is obnoxious unto not returning a farre off but rejoycing in the imbraces of their Father and enterteined with his flesh and bloud who was slaine and sacrificed for them The ayme of our walking with God here is to come up to some conformitie to them who behold his face and doe his Will in Heaven amongst them there is joy at the Repentance of one Sinner and shall not wee finde sweetnesse in the first fruits of a barren Wildernesse in the shining of a beame of light into the darknesse of another World giving hope of a plentifull harvest and a glorious day to ensue Let men take heed lest by despising the day and opposing the Worke of the Lord towards those poore Sonnes of Adam notwithstanding all their zealous profession they proclaime themselves to pursue a Carnall Interest by which they declare the enlargement of the Dominion of Jesus Christ is of no Concernment unto them Wee are by many Pledges assured better things of you Right Honourable and such as accompany zeale for the House of our God and therefore the ensuing Testimonialls of the progresse of the Worke of the Gospel being sent unto us wee make bold humbly to present them to you partly that we may invite you as the friends of Jesus Christ to rejoyce with him that some sheepe of his who were lost are found and partly to lay before you as matter of your rejoycing some such fruits of the putting forth of your Authoritie and investing us therewith for the carrying on this most glorious undertaking as may encourage your selves and all others that love the Lord Jesus to goe on through him who doth enable you unto future reall expressions of love and zeale thereunto Wee shall not need to draw forth any particulars from the ensuing Narrative to give you a taste of that Spirit whereinto these poore Creatures are sweetly baptized Wee hope your delight in the Worke of God will inforce a leasure to view the whole this in Generall wee may say that in the Wildernesse are waters broken out and streames in the Desert the parched ground is become a Poole and the thirsty Land-springs of water in the Habitation of Dragons where each lay there is grasse with Reeds and Rushes the Lord hath powred water upon him that is thirstie and flouds upon the dry ground He hath powred his Spirit on the seeds of the Heathen his blessing on their Off-spring they spring up as among the grasse as willowes by the water-courses One sayes I am the Lords and another calls himselfe by the name of Jacob and another subscribes with his hand unto the Lord and sirnames himselfe by the name of Israel The Lord hath done a new thing and wee know it he hath made a way in the Wildernesse and Rivers in the Desert the beast of the feild doth honour him the Dragons and the Owles because he gives waters in the Wildernes and Rivers in the Desert to give drinke to his People his chosen So that upon the Report heere read unto us wee cannot but glorifie God with those Primitive beleevers and say then hath God also to the poore naked Indians granted Repentance unto life Their outward wants and streights have often been presented unto you wee shall not need to repeate them blessed be the Lord and blessed be you of the Lord that your hearts have been stirred up to give encouragement unto this Worke and to open a Doore for the reliefe of those Eminent Instruments in the hand of the Lord who there carry it on who though they communicate to them Spiritualls yet are so farre from receiving of their Temporalls that they impart unto them a Portion of their own dayly bread and provision necessary from their owne subsistence The good Lord lay the weight and concernment of this Worke upon your spirits and wee no way doubt that you will in any way be wanting to the Publique improvement of this blessed opportunitie for the enlargement of the Kingdome of him whom our Soules doe love There is a vexation of spirit which through their formalitie and unbeliefe hath encompassed many Professors that whereas they have with much seeming earnestnes cryed out for mercies when they have been bestowed they have thought scorne of them so did the Jewes in the busines of their Messias and many at this day amongst our selves in the great works of the Providences of God It is so with some to this breaking forth of light amongst the Indians desiring it before it began despising it in its very beginnings the Lord lay it not unto their charge and keep all our spirits in an holy admiration and reverence of the powerfull efficacy of his eternall and unchangeable purposes which through so many sinfull Generations falling in their Rebellion hath preserved a seed to himselfe whereof he will take care that one graine fall not to the Ground Your Honors to serve you in promoting the Gospel of Christ Signed in the name and by appointment of the Corporation William Steele President To the READER Christian Reader THese ensuing Letters doe represent unto thee and to the Churches the out-goings of Christ as a Light to the Gentiles that the grace which brings Salvation hath appeared unto them also in the furthest parts of the Earth for the accomplishment of that ancient and glorious Promise I will give thee for a Light to the Gentiles that thou may'st be my Salvation to the Ends of the Earth Isa. 49. 6. The People of God have been greatly affected with the appearances of
as they might propound and to stirre them up to call on God I did accordingly and sent him a Present by them but the proud Sachem did little lesse then despise the offer though hee tooke the Present So they thought they should have returned without successe but when they came among the people especially such as were a little more remote from the great and proud ones they received them with great gladnesse one Company taking one of ours among them others taking the other of our men amongst them they asked them many Questions expressed their readinesse to call upon God if they had any to teach them expressing likewise that they did not expect their Sachems would pray to God because they vvere so proud by which I doe perceive that the Lord is preparing a plentifull harvest and not onely by this but by many other Evidences There is a great Countrey lying betweene Conectacott and the Massachusets called Nipnet where there be many Indians dispersed many of which have sent to our Indians desiring that some may be sent unto them to teach them to pray unto God And sometimes some of our best men doe goe to severall places for a little while and returne againe and not without successe These things being so the worke which vvee now have in hand will be as a patterne and Copie before them to imitate in all the Countrey both in civilizing them in their order government Law and in their Church proceedings and administrations and hence great care lyeth upon mee to set them right at first to lay a sure foundation for such a building as I foresee will be built upon it and in this matter I greatly need pray The order of proceeding with them is first to gather them together from their scattered course of life to cohabitation and civill order and Government and then to forme them the Lord having fitted them into visible Church-state for the guidance whereof I have instructed them that they should looke onely into the Scriptures and out of the word of God fetch all their Wisedome Lawes and Government and so shall they be the Lords people and the Lord above shall Reigne over them and governe them in all things by the word of his mouth Sundry of these which pray unto God have formerly subjected themselves unto the English So that in this Government among themselves they doe reserve themselves in that poynt to owne them as their superiours to make appeales unto them as neede may require and experience for these many yeares shew that though they have so subjected themselves yet the onely benefit they have is protection as for hearing and determining their causes the difference of language and paucitie of Intepreters prohibits and if their causes come they be so longsome and yet of small importance that it is of necessitie that either they must have no government as hitherto it hath been or else they must have it among themselves Besides all or many of their differences and causes they usually brought to mee which was not convenient and I was willing to avoyde themselves also found great need that some should be over them to judge their causes and end differences and much desired it Therefore upon the sixt day of the sixt Moneth of this present yeare their Pallizadoe Fort being finished they had a great meeting and many came together from diverse parts though sundry were hindred and came not at that time where with prayer to God I read and expounded to them the 18th of Exodus which I had done severall times before and finally they did solemnly choose two Rulers among themselves they first chose a Ruler of an Hundred then they chose two Rulers of Fifties then they chose Ten or Tithing Men so I call them in English for so they were called as is reported in England vvhen England did flourish happily under that kinde of Government And lastly for that dayes worke every man chose who should be his Ruler of ten the Rulers standing in order and every man going to the man he chose and it seemed unto mee as if I had seene scattered bones goe bone unto his bone and so lived a civill politicall life and the Lord was pleased to minister no small comfort unto my spirit when I saw it After this worke was ended they did enter into Covenant with God and each other to be the Lords people and to be governed bythe word of the Lord in all things The words of which Covenant are these in English Wee doe give our selves and our Children unto God to be his people Hee shall rule us in all our affaires not onely in our Religion and affaires of the Church these wee desire as soone as wee can if God will but also in all our workes and affaires in this world God shall rule over us Isa. 33. 22. The Lord is our Judge the Lord is our Law-giver the Lord is our King Hee will save us the Wisedome which God hath taught us in his Booke that shall guide us and direct us in the way Oh Jehovah teach us wisedome to finde out thy wisedome in thy Scriptures let the grace of Christ helpe us because Christ is the wisedome of God send thy Spirit into our hearts and let it teach us Lord take us to be thy people and let us take thee to be our God This Act of forming themselves into the Government of God and entring into this Government is the first publique Record among the Indians and for ought I know the first that ever was among them and now our next worke is to prepare them for Church-estate to which end I doe instruct them that the Visible Church of Christ is builded upon a lively confession of Christ and Covenanting to walke in all the Administrations of the publique worship of God under the Government and Discipline of Jesus Christ I doe therefore exhort them to try their hearts by the word of God to finde out what change the Lord hath wrought in their hearts and this is the present vvorke vvee have in hand Give mee leave much honoured Friends to goe a little backe in my relation that I might be more particular because these Letters I prepared in the sixt Moneth after they had chosen their Officers as I was propounding and teaching them the above-written Covenant for that I did often before wee did solemnely accomplish it that so they might doe it as an Act of knowledge and faith Now let mee relate the order of our proceeding Having againe and againe read this Covenant to them and instructed them in the meaning of it it pleased God to wrack Mr Webbers Ship at Conahasset though the Lord dealt favourably most goods were saved though much spoyled this was on the first day of the 7th Moneth wherefore at a Lecture at Natik on the 10th of the same Moneth I informed them of the plentifull supply which the Lord had made your selves his instruments to send unto them for the
furtherance of this our worke and also how the Lord had frowned upon it and undoubtedly it was a fruit of sinne and therefore the Lord called them to repentance and make peace with God besides wee were beginning a great worke of civill Cohabitation and Governement and they wanted wisdome to carry on such a worke and the Lord had promised if any want wisdome aske it of God who gives liberally citing that of James which I had formerly preached on Moreover wee were in preparation for a Church-state and that was a great matter to seeke the Lord in and lastly they having chosen Rulers and intending to enter into a Covenant to promise unto God to be his people and to be ruled in all things by his Word Gods appointment is that such a Covenant should be entred into in a solemne day of fasting and prayer and all these causes concurred to put us on unto that worke Now though wee never yet had kept such a day unto the Lord yet I had instructed them therein for in the Spring wee had a generall day of humiliation in all the Churches and thereupon they moved this question Why the English often fasted and prayed and I never yet taught them so to doe to which I did answer by that of Christ unto the Disciples but told them that when wee set upon the great vvorkes of God to be his people governed by his Word and to gather a Church then they should be called of God unto it c. and now it came to passe my motion they deliberated on with some conference as their manner is and finally did consent unto it then I told them it was needfull they should pray and teach that day sundry of them and wee agreed that all such as vvere called to be Rulers should exercise that day or so many as wee had time for their exercise Before that day came even then when it was appointed Cutshamoquin the chiefe Sachem and therefore chosen the chiefe for hee is constant in his profession though doubtfull in respect of the throughnesse of his heart was in the Countrey neere Narragan set about appeasing some strife among some Sachems In which Journey some of those bad Indians and Cutshamoquin with them did buy much strong Water at Gortons Plantation and had a great drinking from which the wiser sort did withdraw themselves but Cutshamoquin was in it though not unto drunkennesse yet his Act was scandalous Before vvee solemnly appeared before God and made the above-written Covenant I advised with Mr Cotton about it and his Counsaile was to add these words in the beginning Wee are the sonnes of Adam wee and our forefathers have a long time been lost in our sinnes but now the mercy of the Lord beginneth to finde us out againe therefore the grace of Christ helping us wee doe give our selves and our Children c. When the day came this Act of Cutshamoquin being broken out wee suffered not him to teach onely he began the day with confession of his sinne and made a short prayer wherein he confessed Satan acted in his heart begged pardon and that the Spirit of God might dwell in him and act in him for time to come and so ended Then another of them began with prayer and for his Text tooke that in the 7th of Luke 36. to the end though they doe not know the Booke Chapter or Verse but distinguish my Lectures by the first materiall word in it Christ being invited by Symon the Pharisee the Woman washt his feete with her teares c. At vvhich Symon stumbling Christ spake the parable of the two Debtors both freely forgiven with the application all which he repeated pretty well and after his teaching he prayed againe and ended The second tooke for his Text the Lords Prayer because it is said he a day of prayer The third tooke for his Text the 7th of Matthew 19. to the end Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is cut downe c. And upon that parable of the two Builders on the rocke the first the other on the sand c. By this time the day was well up then I taught out of the 9th of Ezra 3. 9. where I described a day of fasting and the right carriage of it yet by the parable of a Nut I shewed that outward acts are as the shell which is necessary but a broken and believing heart is the kernell and so ended the forepart of the day After a little respite in which time a Question came to mee if it were lawfull to take a pipe of Tobacco we met againe the first took his Text Joh. 3. 16. 22. and his Preface was I reade or rehearse this and let every one reade it in his owne heart The second took his Text Matth. 13. 24. to 31. from the parable of him that sowed good seed and the enemie came and while they slept sowed tares c. The third took his Text Luke 3d. 4 5 6. ver. Prepare yee the way of the Lord make his paths straight c. By this time night drew on then I took for my Text Deut. 29. and the 1. to 16. where Israel entred into Covenant with the Lord and finally our Covenant in the forerecited words I expressed and they joyntly consented unto first the Rulers then all the people then was the Collections for the poore and by dark night wee finished our worke Thus have I briefly described that blessed day wherein these poore soules solemnely became the people of the Lord this was on the 24th day of the 7th Moneth 1651. Upon the 8th of the Oct. Moneth which was our next Lecture for it is in that place but once in a fortnight I houlding a Lecture each other weeke still at any other place it pleased our Governour with many others attending him to visit our poore workes and day of small things where they viewed our house our Fort our Bridge advised about a place for a Mill c. At the season they came unto our Lecture and observed the carriage and behaviour of things and men among other things one of our Indians did as we are wont exercise which they tooke so much notice of and were so farre affected with as that it pleased the Governour to advice me to write the substance of that which he spake which is as followeth his Text was Matth. 13. 44 45 46. Againe the Kingdome of heaven is like vnto treasure hid in a feild the which when a man hath found he hideth and for joy thereof goeth and selleth all that he hath and buyeth the feild 45. Againe the Kingdome of heaven is like unto a Marchant-man seeking goodly pearles 46. Who when he had found one pearle of great price he went and sould all that he had and bought it The substance of these words he did twice rehearse then for instruction he first propounded what is this treasure which is hid in a feild he answered it is Repentance for
there were some Ministers and diverse other godly men there that attended mee thither his Text was in Matthew 13. 44 45 46. He continued in his Exercise full halfe an houre or more as I judged it his gravitie and utterance was indeed very commendable which being done Mr Eliot taught in the Indian tongue about three quarters of an houre as neere as I could guesse the Indians which were in number men women neere about one hundred seemed the most of them so to attend him the men especially as if they would loose nothing of what was taught them which reflected much upon some of our English hearers After all there was a Psalme sung in the Indian tongue and Indian meeter but to an English tune read by one of themselves that the rest might follow and he read it very distinctly without missing a word as we could judge and the rest sang chearefully and prettie tuneablie I rid on purpose thither being distant from my dwelling about thirty-eight or fortie miles and truely I account it one of the best Journeys I made these many yeares Some few dayes after I desired Mr Eliot briefely to write mee the substance of the Indians Exercise which when he went thither againe namely to Naticke where the Indians dwell and where the Indian taught he read what he remembred of it first to their Schoole-Master who is an Indian and teacheth them and their Children to write and I saw him write also in English who doth it true and very legible and asked him if it were right and he said yea also he read it unto others and to the man himselfe who also owned it To tell you of their industry and ingenuitie in building of an house after the English manner the hewing and squaring of their tymber the sawing of the boards themselves and making of a Chimney in it making of their groundsells and wall-plates and mortising and letting in the studds into them artificially there being but one English-man a Carpenter to shew them being but two dayes with them is remarkeable They have also built a Fort there with halfe trees cleft about eight or ten Inches over about ten or twelve foote high besides what is intrencht in the ground which is above a quarter of an acre of ground as I judge They have also built a foote bridge over Charles River with Groundsells and Spurres to uphold it against the strength of the Flood and Ice in the Winter it stood firme last Winter and I thinke it will stand many Winters They have made Drummes of their owne with heads and brases very neatly and artificially all which shewes they are industrious and ingenuous And they intend to build a Water-Mill the next Sommer as I was tould when I was with them Some of them have learnt to mow Grasse very well I shall no further trouble you with any more relation at this time concerning them But a word or two further with your patience concerning other Indians The worke of God amongst the Indians at Martins Vineyard is very hopefull and prosperous also I mist of Mr Mayhew their Teacher who was lately at Boston and therefore cannot give you a particular account thereof at this present time yet I cannot but acquaint you what other motions there are touching other Indians There came to us upon the 20th of this instant Moneth at the generall Court one Pummakummin Sachem of Qunnubbágge dwelling amongst or neere to the Narragansets who offered himselfe and his Men to worship God and desired that some English may be sent from the Massachusets Government to plant his River that thereby he may be partaker of Government and may be instructed by the English to know God Wee shall I hope take some care and course about it and I hope wee shall have more helpe to carry on that worke also For there are some Schollers amongst us who addict themselves to the study of the Indian Tongue The Lord in mercy recompence it into your Bosomes all that labour of love vouchsafed to the poore Indians which are the hearty prayers and earnest desire of much honoured Your loving Friend in all service of Christ John Endecott Boston the 27th of the Eight 1651. The next thing we present the reader withall is a private passage from one in New England to his godly Friend here who was so much affected therewith as he found out our Treasurer of the Corporation by name Mr Richard Floyd at the Meremaide in Cheapside and desired it might be published to the world amongst other things when we should publish and print what we received of like nature And how ever it is but briefe in it selfe yet full of sweetnesse and plainnes of spirit which we offer to thy view THe best News I can write you from New England is the Lord is indeed converting the Indians and for the refreshing of your heart and the hearts of all the Godly with you I have sent you the Relation of one Indian of two yeares profession that I tooke from his owne mouth by an Interpreter because he cannot speake or understand one word of English The first Question was Q. How did you come first to any sight of sinne A. His answer was before the Lord did ever bring any English to us my conscience was exceedingly troubled for sinne but after Mr Mahew came to preach and had been here some time one chiefe Sagamore did imbrace the Gospel and I hearing of him I went to him and prayed him to speake something to mee concerning God and the more I did see of God the more I did see my sinne and I went away rejoycing that I knew any thing of God and also that I saw my sinne Q. I pray what hurt doe you see in sinne A. Sinne sayth he is a continuall sicknesse in my heart Q. What further evill doe you see in sinne A. I see it to be a breach of all Gods Commandements Q. Doe you see any punishment due to man for sinne A. Yea sayth he I see a righteous punishment from God due to man for sinne which shall be by the Devills in a place like unto fire not that I speake of materiall fire sayth he where man shall be for ever dying and never dye Q. Have you any hope to escape this punishment A. While I went on in the way of Indianisme I had no hope but did verily believe I should goe to that place but now I have a little hope and hope I shall have more Q. By what meanes doe you look for any hope A. Sayth he by the satisfaction of Christ I prayed the Interpreter to tell him from mee that I would have him thinke much of the satisfaction of Christ and so he told him I prayed him to returne mee his Answer A. I thanke him kindly for his good Counsell it doth my heart good sayd he to heare any man speak of Christ Q. What would you thinke if the Lord should save you from misery A. If the Lord