and none such had ever yet come to my hand But upon my sober Perusal of the Matter I found this to be the Upshot That the Quakers Deny them to be the Word of God therefore they deny them altogether Whence I take good Heart to show his Ignorance or great Dishonesty § 3. I will allow to him without going any farther that the People called Quakers do deny the Scriptures to be the Word of God and therefore shall take for granted what he quotes out of J. N. F. Howgil J. Parnel and W. Smith But that we do consequently Deny the Scriptures we shall oppose we hope to the Death § 4. I do declare to the whole World that We believe the Scriptures to contain a Declaration of the Mind and Will of God in and to those Ages in which they were written being given forth by the Holy Ghost moving in the Hearts of holy Men of God That they ought also to be Believed Read and Fulfill'd in our Day being Useful for Reproof and Instruction that the Man of God may be perfect And that they have been and are Instrumental to great Good upon the Spirits of People by the secret Power of God which often strikes and presseth home to the very Conscience the weighty Truths declar'd therein yet We do Deny them to be the Word of God ascribing that alone to Christ himself and that not without Scripture and Reason § 5. First It is granted on all hands that Christ is expresly called in Scripture the Word of God but no where that the Scriptures are so styled Secondly That though I should allow it to be a Figurative Expression and therefore says our Adversary Improper yet because a Word among Men conveyes the Mind of one unto another and that Christ is the great Word of God that in all Ages hath convey'd or spoken the Mind of God unto Mankind and so the Author of all good Words he only may by way of Right and Excellency be so styl'd of Us. Thirdly I shall easily grant to him that one Word may stand representative of many and that the Ten Words were not Ten Numerical Words because each Word contained many yet this I will say that Word in Scripture is taken for Commandment and they have an equivalent Signification as in Deuteronomy may be seen And since that was the Import of the Ten Words to wit Ten Commandments each Word has its own Commandment Therefore it is no more against us to allow those Ten Words to be more then Ten Words then Ten Commandments to have more then Ten Words And whatever our Adversaries may say or think of us We therefore Decline to call the Scriptures the Word of God because we believe It to be a Title only due to that Living Quickning Word by which God vouchsafes to disclose his Mind and Will unto Man-kind Christ the Way to the Father § 6. But sayes our Adversary to this Argument The Word was God therefore the Scriptures cannot be the Word because they are not God Let me tell you that the Scripture may be the Word and Christ the Word also and yet though Christ be the Word of God the Scriptures the Word may be quite another thing Certain I am this is quite another thing then good Doctrine How can the Scriptures be the Word of God and Christ the Word of God too Are there two Distinct Words of God the one quite another thing from the other O shameful Arguing If he had said Christ is the Word of God and the Scriptures a Word of God he would have a little better hit the Mark But to assert Two General Comprehensive Words of God sounds Harsh and Inconsistent I would fain know in Case we should admit this absurd Assertion how he would distinguish between these Two General Comprehensive Words For my part I think it as good Sense to call a King's Letters King or an Ambassador's Credential's Ambassador O no says our Adversary you Mistake Christ is called a Light a Rock a Lyon will it thence follow that there are no other Lights Rocks or Lyons I Answer There is no other Light Rock or Lyon then Christ with respect to That for which He is so call'd Neither is there any other Word then Christ with respect to that for which he is so styl'd to wit God's Living Powerful Word And this decides the Controversie and plainly adjudges us the Matter against the utmost Force of our Adversary to the Contrary For if he is therefore a Light because he only can and doth Discover the Unfruitful Works of Darkness a Rock because whoever build on Him is Safe and a Lyon because the King of all whose Utterings are able to Terrifie all Destruction from his Walks but what he brings upon his Adversaries and therefore there is not another Light to inlighten Man's Soul or Rock for Christ's Church to be built on neither any other Lyon to secure them from the Devourer consequently because he is the Living Spiritual Powerful Word of God there is not another that 's The Word of God § 7. But he further says That the Word of God is so exprest in Scripture as it must needs be understood not of Christ but the Scriptures He that regardeth not the Word of the Lord. He that feared the Word of the Lord Stand thou still a while that I may shew thee the Word of God the Sword of the Spirit which is the Word of God And the Cares of the World choak the Word and it becometh Unfruitful Mark 4. 19. which saith he cannot be understood of Christ or God and that a little Skill in the Original would free us from these Mistakes and to that Purpose To which I answer that the Word of the Lord mention'd in Exodus and Samuel are properly to be understood of the Living Spiritual Word of God which spoke to the People through those Servants of the Lord For who Received or Rejected the Mind of that Word exprest in many Words received the Word and it had a place in their Hearts or else rejected it and it had no place in them This makes nothing against us in the least For that Passage in the Ephesians Beza whom he quotes I suppose as embracing his Judgment has determin'd the Matter for he has it the Spiritual Sword Then let us read the Words thus The Spiritual Sword is the Word of God or The Word of God is the Spiritual Sword For Christ is as truly a Sword an Ax a Fire which the Word of God is call'd as a Lyon a Rock a Door And for the last Passage out of Mark which seems to carry most of Weight in it for our Adversary it may rightly be understood of that Truth which Christ the Word livingly sows in the Hearts of Men Women the Word of Advice Reproof Instruction and the like But of the Scriptures it cannot be understood as neither can any of the other places For first those
Flesh and Blood the Birth that persecutes the Son and Heir Graven Images Morn Watch p. 22 23. It would amaze sayes he a Christian to read what is contain'd in the two Pages quoted of vilifying Reproach to the Scriptures and the Doctrines from them received If this be not Opposing the Spirit of God to the Scriptures and rendering them advers to each other the Devil himself must dispair of Inventing Words to express it by And now Reader it is time for me with a Soul full of Grief to make my Appeal to the Righteous Lord God of Heaven and Earth and his equal Witness in thy Conscience if ever Quakers writ or said any such thing of the Holy Scriptures O far be it from us and very great and heavy will the Damnation of J. Faldo be in the Day of the Lord unless he shall unfeignedly Repent because of these detestable Lyes that he seems wilfully to fasten upon our Writings What William Smith said reflected not in the least upon the Scriptures nor yet those Doctrines which were truly received thence No such words can be produced by our Adversaries had W. S. written any such thing he that adds so much that was not we are to suppose would not have omitted mentioning of that if it had been But W. Smith addrest himself to that Adulterated Spirit which had defiled Nations that nevertheless were under the Profession of God Scriptures and Religious Worship though in Works they deny'd God and as concerning Scripture and true Worship grosly err'd not knowing the Power of God nor how to Worship him in Spirit and in Truth not that he ever durst to entertain so Blasphemous an Apprehension of those Holy Writings or those Doctrines that are truly received thence as is suggested by our most unfair Adversary And is it not the height of all Unrighteousness to our Neighbour that when he condemns the Degenerated Spirit Knowledge and Worship of any People however professing the Scriptures and it may be pretending to believe accordingly as W. Smith does all Apostate Christians J. Faldo should infer that his Neighbour calls the Scriptures themselves and not a wrong Knowledge of them Will-Worship Corruption Rottenness Deceitful Whore's-Cup Apostacy Earthly Root Graven Images c. and that he should intend nothing less then Opposition betwixt the Spirit and its own Scriptures There needs no further Confutation then the gross and black Envy of our Adversary about this one Passage Be it known to all we do affirm the Scriptures never did jarr with the Spirit nor the Spirit oppose himself against the Scriptures and thus much our Writings can plentifully prove to all sober Enquirers § 3. But he offers another and the last Proof of his Charge from J. Naylor That of this sort are they false Prophets as I suppose he means who have their Preaching from Study and other Men's Mouthes and not from the Mouth of the Lord. From which he infers that what we have in the Scriptures is not from the Mouth of the Lord and queries I would know saith he of the Quakers what they will make of the Mouth of the Lord It was said to Jeremiah Jer. 15. 19. Thou shalt be as my Mouth Our Meaning is still over-look't by this disingenuous Adversary and a quite contrary thing substituted The natural Purport of the Words can be no more then this That though the Things declared of in the Scriptures were the Word of the Lord to the holy Ancients and Jeremiah as God's Mouth not his Mouth therefore to the People of Israel yea and much of it the Word of the Lord to us too yet for Men to say any part thereof by wrote especially if they add their own Comments and Glosses fraim'd from Study to any part of the Scriptures and cry Thus sayes the Lord or Hear the Word of the Lord and not in the same living Sense nor upon the like Commission every such one doth Rob his Neighbour and Steal his words And He is no more a True Prophet for so doing then a Parrat is a Man because he can talk If then no such Creature is therefore to be reputed Rational nor what he says Reason as to him though so in it self because it proceeds not from the Root and Principle of Reason but by meer Imitation and consequently a Prater in no case to be minded Neither is he a true Prophet nor that the Word of the Lord with respect to that Prophet who has not received what he delivers from the immediate Word of God himself but by Hear-say or meer Imitation No he is but a very Babbler and begets People no further then into meer Words and Imaginary Glosses which is the Ground of that Uncertainty that is in the World about Religion The Scriptures then are to us oblieging as the Things they declare of were the Word of the Lord to several Ages Temporal Commands excepted and they are not without a Mouth yet they and Jeremiah too are Inferior to the Mouth of the Eternal Word which speaks in this Evangelical Dispensation the Will of God unto Mankind after a more living and immediate Manner as was prophesied of old And I may thus far gratifie our Adversary's Curiosity about God's Mouth and tell him that the Word of God is the Mouth of God and the true Prophets and Apostles in all Ages have been the Mouth of the Word of God and the Scriptures are the Writings of those holy Prophets and Apostles as they were the Mouth of the Eternal Word revealing God's Will in their Hearts that they might declare it whether by Word of Mouth or Writing to the People and this is the true Order and Descent of things § 4. But he has one Kick more at us before he gives up the Ghost in his Mis-representation of us concerning the Scriptures The Quakers hold it is a sin and the sign of Idolatry to Believe and Live according to the Instructions and holy Examples expressed in and by the Scriptures except we have them by immediate Inspiration and at first hand as the Apostles received them And now says he I am come to the highest Round of their Ladder Indeed those Rounds of Ladders are very dangerous places I will not say how often nor for what an Army Chaplin might deserve to be so high exalted but since his eager pursuit after an Innocent People has brought him actually thither and it falls to my Lot to be his Executioner I shall take all the care I can to acquit my self well of my Employment I will warrant him for ever coming down the same way he went up In order to which let us first hear what kind of Speech he will make us to the Point in hand William Dewsbury in his Discovery of Mans Return pag. 21. All People may search the Scriptures and see how you have been deceived by your Teachers who have caused you to seek your lost God in Carnal and Dead Observations which they have not any
Let him find me says J. Faldo such a Scripture and I will be bound to turn Quaker I perceive the Man thinks he can turn Quaker much at the rate he can Pray I mean when he will but I will tell him so much that it is as hard a Task for him to turn True Quaker as to be a true primitive Christian a thing most difficult to be sure But to his Quibble about But that J. Parnel has told a I willfull Untruth in saying the Baptism is but One suppose it will be allow'd that there was one Baptism in the same sense that there was one Lord one Faith Now if there is but One Lord One Faith as it is to be supposed J. Faldo believes why should it be so Criminal to say there is but One Baptism If saying there is one Lord and one Faith be synonimous or equivalent with affirming that there is but one Lord and one Faith I cannot see how it should be an Untruth to say that there is One Baptism is one and the same thing wish our saying there is but One Baptism In short if there is more then One Baptism because the Apostle does not say there is but one Baptism then there are more Gospels Lords and Faiths because the Apostle did not say there was but one Gospel but one Lord and but one Faith consequently there may be many Gospels Lords and Faiths as well as Baptisms § 7. Enough of this Weakness His Strength follows Water-Baptism is the Sign the Baptism of the Spirit something but not all signified Now to call the Thing signifying and signified by the same Name doth not make them Two of that Name no more then there were two New Covenants because both the Matter contained in it Hebr. 8. 10. and Circumcision the Sign Gen. 17. 13. are called the Covenant I shall grant to him that the Thing signifying and signified are sometimes called by one and the same Name as Baptism But when distinguisht by Water and Holy Ghost I hope nothing that is not as blind or hardened as J. Faldo if yet he himself will say that therefore they are but One Baptism Christ himself distinguishes betwixt John's and his Baptism and himself and his Baptism And frequently his Apostles yea the Baptist himself seem'd to take all Occasions whereby to let People know that his Baptism was but that of Water and that the Baptism of Christ was not of Water but of the Holy Ghost as the Scriptures in the Margent plainly prove So in the Word Circumcision compounded of the same Letters and Syllables let it be used to express that of the Body or the Flesh or that of the Heart in Spirit Yet it is to be hoped that none will conclude there were not Two Circumcisions and so Two Jews the one Inward and the other Outward Though now he is no more a Jew that is one Outwardly neither is that Circumcision which is outward in the Flesh but he is a Jew which is one Inwardly and Circumcision is that of the Heart in the Spirit and not in the Letter whose Praise is not of Men but of God § 8. And should we grant him what he desires as to the same Name being applicable to the Sign and the Thing signified yet Weak and Wretched must his Sophism appear to all clear-sighted Readers For if therefore the Baptism of Water and of the Spirit are One because the same Word is applicable to the Sign and the Thing signified and in that sense they are both of them One Baptism Then by just Consequence must the Circumcision outwardly in the Flesh and the Circumcision of the Heart in the Spirit be One because the Word of it self is equally applicable to both and Consequently they are both of them One Circumcision And here but must and will be allow'd us What Jew Living could have reason'd better for the Continuation and Perpetuity of Circumcision But because he has said nothing here for Baptism more then what may be said for Circumcision and that Circumcision is utterly exploded of the Christian Religion as a Sign whose Signification is come and therefore no more a Sign our Assertion of the One Spiritual Baptism of Fire and the Holy Ghost as onely upon the same Fundation proper to Christ's Kingdom doth remain fix and Immoveable against all the Batteries of our Adversary CHAP. XVI The Supper he says we deny not deny'd but fulfil'd The Scriptures Consulted No Perpetuity prov'd That it was a Sign And that Signs were done away in Christ demonstrated The present Practice in the Case not primitive Our Faith left with God in the Matter § 1. BUt the Quakers he says disown the Ordinance of the Lord's Supper to be now a Gospel-Ordinance for which he cites J. Parnel a Young Man often in his Eye now dead as he was grieveously so to J. Faldo's Brethren the Independents at Cogshall in Essex who by unparallel'd and never to be forgotten Cruelties murder'd him as may be seen in my Second part of our serious Apology pag. 185. 186. 187. His words as he quotes them are these For the Bread which the World breaks is Natural and Carnal so also the Cup which they drink and here is no Communion but what is Outward and Carnal Shield of Truth pag. 13. Also W. Smith thus They Bread and Wine in the Lord's Supper are the Popes Invention His Primm pag. 39. To the first Citation I answer that the Bread and Wine being of an Outward Elementary Nature and Substance may with respect to what they signifie be very properly tearmed Natural and Carnal for so they are And the World that is those who are doing it upon meer Imitation and not from any Heavenly Commission they see no further and their Communion may well be said to be Natural Outward and Carnal To the second I do challenge J. Faldo to make it good and require it at his Hand in the View of the World to produce any such words out of W. Smiths Books and that he may not plead Mistake of Authors I will give him the Scope of all our Books Friends to prove that we ever call'd the Bread and Wine Christ blest the Invention of the Pope O ungodly Man What hast thou done that God should thus give thee up not onely to believe Lyes thy self but to endeavour to make others do the like Thy Book shall be a Milstone about thy Neck in the Day of the righteous and terrible Judgments of Almighty God We deny the Expression and lay the Slander at John Faldo's door § 2. But the Quakers main Objection says he is that Christ is come in Spirit to them and his Disciples were to do it in Remembrance of him till he came therefore this Precept doth not binde them J. Faldo pretends thus to answer But who would think that Christ in the Spirit was not come either in shedding it abroad miraculously as in the 2. of the Acts or as a
with a more glorious Manifestation of the same Divine Power Purity Truth Wisdom and Righteousness then former Ages were either capable of or attended with To exclude then all Antecedent Times from any share in Christianity is both Weak and Cruel since it plainly shuts them out of all hopes of Eternal Salvation for if no Name be given but the Name of Christ under the whole Heaven by which Men can be saved then either Christ was alwayes in some measure or other a Saviour and such as were saved in some degree or other Christians or there was one Saviour before Christ's outward coming and another since or lastly all that were antecedent to that Appearance were damn'd § 6. I appeal then to the Consciences and Understandings of all impartial People if our Belief be not the most Just Merciful and True that however it pleased God to send his Son a Light into the World at that time more eminently then before yet that he was so far Spiritually manifested in all Ages as the Word of God nigh in the Heart and great Commandment in the Consciences of Men as who believed and obey'd obtain'd Remission of Sins and Eternal Salvation This is clear for if no man could ever see or know the Father but the Son and he to whom the Son reveals him then because many of the Holy Ancients both spiritually saw and knew God otherwise they could never be saved it follows that Christ did in all Ages reveal God who being Light and that it is Light alone which can Reveal or Manifest it was as a Light within that he communicated unto the Soul of Man which is within Man the Knowledge of the Pure God Whatever may be known of God is manifest within Man for God hath shewed it unto him so that the Contradiction and Error of the Man's Definition of Christianity is evident § 7. But yet a little further He plainly Heathenizes that notable Christian Passage of the refusing it all Priviledge within the bounds of Christianity viz. Whatsoever things are True Honest Just Pure Lovely of Good Report if there be any Vertue if there be any Praise think on these things Now if this Religious Chymist shall once extract all things that are Honest Just Pure Lovely and of Good Report from Christianity which the Apostle maketh the Sum of what he had been writing unless it is not a Christian Epistle and therefore ends with a Finally my Brethren tell me O sober Reader what a kind of Christianity there would be in the World O Monstruous Impiety Is this Man fit to write of Christianity that places it beneath the lowest step of Purity making manifest Difference betwixt being a Child of God and a Christian True the outward History of Christ's exceeding Love to Man-kind deserves all humble and reverent Credit as a Godly Tradition and it should forever bind Men to receive and fear and worship him yet I boldly affirm that though the Manifestation was clearer yet Salvation was Salvation and a Child of God a Child of God in all Ages For what is it but to say that Pure Religion and Undefiled which is to keep our selves unspotted from the World belongs not stricktly to the Christian but Jewish or Pagan Religion and that James was but a moral Man in the Matter and not writing on a Christian Subject What an empty Trunk a Vox praeterea nihil a sounding Brass and Tinckling Cymbal would this Man make of true Christianity Yet thus far we may force him to speak Truth though in double Contradiction to himself that since Christianity takes in all that was worthy in all Ages not as Alien then but related to her self something of the Nature of true Christianity was in the World before that more Visible and Glorious Manifestation of it unless Christianity be supposed to take into it self what is not of its own Nature thus was Christ the Rock the Ancients built on before Abraham was whose Day he had a Sight and Sence of and from it exulted greatly § 8. Christianity then is not an Historical Belief of the exteriour Acts the true Christ did in that bodily Appearance which is but Historical Christianity as our Adversary weakly argues for that was the least part of it since Christianity is that which brings to God which thousands that believe the other will never arrive at but a firm belief in him that so Appeared Lived Died Rose and Ascended both as testified of in the Scriptures of Truth and more especially as he breaks in upon the Soul by his Divine Discoveries as the true Light inlightning every Man this I call Christianity and that Man is a Child of Light who obeys that Light a true Christian who is Christ-like a Child of God and Heir of the Promise who is inwardly renewed and begot anew of the Incorruptible Seed and Word of God For those who were Christians of old were such as came to know Christ no more after the Flesh but as the second Adam the Lord from Heaven the Quickning Spirit who said I am the Resurrection and the Life really witnessing him to be that in themselves wherefore they Believed and upon Repentance received Remission of Sins and Eternal Salvation And I do affirm that Christianity stands in the Manifestation of a Measure of that Righteous Power Wisdom Truth and Life in the Soul which appear'd so largely and gloriously in that Body at Jerusalem to work Repentance then give Remission so Renew Redeem and finally Save and who came to be made sensible of that Heavenly Treasure in their mortal Bodies and to improve it as good Stewards were Possessors of true Christianity and therefore Right Christians The Distinction betwixt Moral and Christian the making holy Life Legal and Faith in the History of Christ's outward Christianity Manifestation has been a deadly Poyson these latter Ages have been infected with to the Destruction of Godly Living and Apostatizing of those Churches in whom there might once have been begotten some Earnest Living Thrist after the Inward Life of Righteousness § 9. By this I think it may be pretty well known what we mean by Christianity and a True Christian How far this will agree with his Definition of Quakerism and a Quaker I will proceed to examine Quakerism is a heap of Tenets with the usurped Names of true Christian Principles which are yet really no such thing but subverting both Foundation and Fabrick of true Christianity And I call him a Quaker that professes the Light within every Man to be the Lord and Saviour and very God So that then I say Quakerism is no Christianity § 10. Indeed if Quakerism respecting us were this I would say so too but because it is justly a Stranger to any such Imputation I rightly fasten that of Ignorance or great Malice upon our Adversary I have already exprest our Judgment of Christianity which I suppose to be the Quakerism struck at what ever may be pretended at
and Women have been as well before as since that Appearance We intend no New Dispensation but the Renewed Revelation of the same Power which is the True Gospel § 1. THe next Mis-Representation is of the Manner of our Appearance and the Time of it by way of Comparence with that of Christianity little to his Purpose and in my Judgment much against him § 2. Christianity was introduc'd by Preaching the Promised Messias and Pointing at his Human Person but Quakerism by Preaching a Light within I answer that this is nothing injurious to the Quakers at all but highly on their side for had they preacht a Christ now coming in the Flesh they had deny'd his true and only great Visible Appearance at Jerusalem which all true Quakers own Since then they believe that Appearance and therefore need not preach what is not to be again and that the whole Christian-World besides have so long and lazyly depended on it without their Thirsting after his Inward Holy Appearance in the Conscience to Bind the Strong Man Spoyl his Goods and Cast him out in short to Discover Sin Wound for it and make an End of it by the Brightness of his Spiritual Coming into the Soul of all such as wait for him and will receive him in which Sense he was revealed in such and became in the Saints of old the Hope of their Glory I say since he has been so much talkt of and depended on as to his then Visible Manifestation of himself and so little if at all desired after as to his Spiritual and Invisible Coming into the Hearts of Men to finish Transgression and bring in Everlasting Righteousness Therefore God raised us up and we are now gone forth into the World to declare That he is Spiritually Manifested as then fully in that Body so now measurably in the Consciences of all People a Divine Light Reproving every Unfruitful Work of Darkness So that here is the Mischief the Malice and Ignorance of our Enemies do us in this World that because we Speak so much of and Preach up and Write for Christ's Inward and Spiritual Appearance as a Light to Mankind therefore they conclude with a mighty Confidence that we Deny his Outward Coming Life Death Resurrection and Ascension and the Benefits thereof O Darkness it self We have our Witness with the Lord of Heaven and Earth that we own Him to be the Saviour General of the whole World as to that Appearance and that he obtained precious Gifts for Men but we say and our Adversaries have not wherewith reasonably to unsay it that first the Divine Light Life or Power that shined through that Blessed Manhood was Excellently the Saviour and the Manhood but Instrumentally Thus the Scripture There is no Saviour besides me saith God a Body hast thou prepared me He then was greater then his Body for it is call'd a Vail and very properly for it vail'd much of that Divine Life which when it was withdrawn as he himself said it was expedient the Saints did witness inwardly Reveal'd Christ in them their Hope of Glory And secondly No Man or Woman in the World is savingly benefitted by his then Appearing as a Saviour and obtaining precious Gifts for Men but as every such Individual Person comes to experience his Internal Manifestation to Convince Condemn Wound Heal Break Bind up Slay make Alive in the Newness of the Spirit This is the State of Right Redemption and Salvation and thus is he particularly a Saviour and every such one is greatly benefitted by him as he was in that former Appearance the general Saviour of Mankind Behold then O You that are Impartial how unworthily he hath Injur'd us to make People believe that We testifie to Christ's Inward Appearance in Opposition to and Denial of his Outward which is far from our Hearts so much as to Conceive § 3. But again he tells us That Christianity made its way by the Purity of its Doctrine the gracious Words that Christ spoke by Sings and Wonders but Quakerism by Blasphemies against the Lord Jesus Christ and quotes E. B. saying Your Imagin'd God above the Stars and G. Fox There are Miracles among Believers in the Spirit c. frothily querying whether it smells more of the FOX or the GOOSE 'T is true the Purity of its Doctrine was and is an admirable Enforcement it had and hath above all other nor can he fasten justly any Impurity upon what we profess though he endeavours to detract from it by base Aspersions for indeed it is the same Sweet were the Words of Christ I grant but altogether as Severe and Terrible to Pharisaical Hypocrites who were both the greatest Scripturians and Haters of Him in that Age. § 4. Nor is it true that E. Burrough so exprest himself in Derision of God's Presence above the Stars but of Peoples Imagining him to be in the Likeness of Man and so denying his Omni-presence that He should not be as well below as above § 5. But Wonders and Miracles were wrought What then are not the Quakers true Christians without them see the Wickedness of this Spirit that works against us unless we will work Miracles to confirm that Doctrine in this Generation which was confirmed by Miracles 1600. Years ago either it is not True or we have no Right to it But by the way observe their Folly for they Unchristian at once Christianity and themselves too since Christianity must either be no longer such nor they Christians whilst they cannot work Wonders to prove it or them to be such or else the Quakers are never the less true Christians for not working those Wonders they boldly require from us We pretend not to a new Ministration and since the Question is not about the Visible Coming of the Messiah which call'd for Visible Miracles for that 's granted on all hands in Europe but the Spiritual Appearance of the Messiah in the Hearts and Consciences of his People that he might not have a bare and empty Title when he was call'd Jesus but really save his People now as then from their Sins the Case is plainly alter'd as to obvious Miracles to our Carnal Senses the present Work being to open the blind Eye and unstop the deaf Ear of the Mind blinded and stop't by the God of this World And these are greater Things of more Weight and the Consequence of them of far greater Importance And judge you how Vain Light and Unbecoming a Minister of the Gospel of Christ Jesus that requires an account for every Idle word was it in J. Faldo when treating of Christianity to say whether it smells more like the FOX or the GOOSE Vain and Frothy § 6. But once more Christianity entred the World with Ravishing Songs and Hallelujahs of the Angels Healing all Diseases Casting out Devils Preaching Peace But Quakerism entred the World as if Hell had broke loose and Possessions by Satan had made way and fit Souls for the Quakers
will I The Things following which I have declared of are not the Things of Man nor by Man did I receive them but by the Revelation of Jesus Christ W. Dewsberry thus The Word of the Lord to his Beloved City through your Brother and Companion in the Tribulation and Kingdom of Patience in the Lord Jesus Christ Now what to say here in their Defence when he lays nothing to their Charge but what hath been generally exprest I know not Certain it is that No Man knows the Father but the Son and Him to whom the Son REVEALS him The Inspiration of the Almighty giveth Understanding and No Man can know the Things of God but by the Spirit of God Well may we conclude then that J. Faldo knows God no better then I do Terra Incognita for he denyes all Knowledge of him by any Internal Discoveries What he knows is by Man and from Man What Offence or Undervalue I would fain know can it be to the Scriptures that Men should know God that only Way by which they testifie God can be known of Men Or Why should he be Angry at his Author for Confessing to have known God that very Way by which the Scriptures declare him only to be known But indeed it happens ill to the Priest for all this is to prove too that We deny the Scriptures though hereby we fulfil them § 3. For W. D's Words they are also firm for God promised the Repouring out of his Spirit and the Repreaching of his Everlasting Gospel And since the Question is not whether we have it but whether it be an Invalidating the Scriptures for any under the plentiful Pourings out of the Spirit and Power of God to say This is the Word of the Lord I say it is firm that so Saying may therefore be in the Latter as well as Former Dayes allowable and no Detraction at all from the Scriptures And for the Conclusion of his Epistle it is what every good Christian Man can say What Folly what Impudence is it in J. Faldo to make that an Equaling our Writings to Scripture or Preferring them before it which both his own Tribe I am able to make appear hath frequently us'd though by Themselves Irreproveably And which indeed is the Condition of every good Christian-Man namely to be a Brother and Companion to the Children and Family of God in the Tribulation and Kingdom of Patience in the Lord Jesus Well! If this Man's manifest Weakness make not for our Cause I should very greatly strange § 4. And therefore says he Pennington prays seriously My Upright Desire to the Lord for you is That he would strip you of your Knowledg of the Scriptures according to the Flesh By Flesh says he their Sense is the Use of our Understandings though Sanctified as will appear in the Key c. But this Expression serves for a Notable Key to open his Ignorance and Dishonesty His Ignorance is evident in Reputing it a Slight of the Scriptures to desire that Men might be stript of their Fleshly Knowledg of them I do affirm it to be both Seasonable and Serious and did not J. Faldo stand upon a tottering Basis he would not so declaim against us for Undermining it But let all behold his Dishonesty to say that we desire to be Script of the Knowledge of the Scriptures after our Sanctified Understandings making a Sanctified Understanding and that Flesh which can never inherit the Kingdom of God to wit the Carnal Dead Dark Unregenerated Understanding to be all one O Disingenuous Man Art thou fit to be a Gospel Minister who hast not learnt to do as thou wouldst be done by I leave it with the Conscience of the Reader how Justly or Unjustly thou hast dealt with us in this Matter and what all or any of it concerns the Scriptures For if Men will not understand them as they are is it the Fault of the Scriptures No surely shall then Isaac Pennington's Desire that their wrong Knowledg of those weighty and Holy Writings be interpreted a Dis-Respect to them and a preferring our own Writings before them which so heartily seeks their Right Knowledge of them If this be the Way to prove Quakerism no Christianity we need not much fear the Issue of his Attempt § 5. But he proceeds to prove our Equaling of the Scriptures two Wayes First from our pretending to Infallibility Secondly our Plea for the Necessity of Inspiration He quotes G. Whitehead's Letter to him Whether Infallibility be attainable by any in these dayes which we affirm is to true Believers which if thou denyst we question thy Call Of Inspiration he cites J. Story 's short Discovery thus Therefore may I say much more it is not in the Power of that little Book either to throw down Self-Will in any in whom it is not yet subdued or to exalt the Truth in general because it is only Queries gather'd by the Author from the Letter of the Scriptures without and no Message of Heavenly Prophesie Doctrine or Exhortation received by the Author from the Lord through the Divine Inspiration of his Light and Spirit within Therefore I say It is a very Vain and Idolatrous Exhortation To all which sober Matter I have no other Answer from him then that the Quakers Writings are full to this Purpose Indeed I am glad of it or we had little Reason to Suffer what we do for our Descent from the Carnal Professors of Religion in the World But I have this to say to him He that doth not Infallibly know what he knows of God or Religion knows nothing certainly which concerns either Now if Men cannot attain to any such Certainty Farewell all Religion For That a Man should affirm and not know whereof That he should profess God and Religion yet be uncertain of both But that J. Faldo should Preach of both and profess himself Errable in all such Doctrine Who ought to believe him Why spends he his Breath at a Venture Rather let him Eat Drink for to Morrow he shall Dye for Death is certain This is your Independent Fallible Errable Uncertain J. Faldo Preacher to a People at Barnet and God knows a Lamentable one too What Reason have any to Believe him against Us who is Uncertain of the Truth of what he says against us by his own Principle § 6. For Inspiration the Scriptures are not more express in any one thing No man can know the things of God by the bare Spirit of a Man But the Spirit of a Man or a Man distinctly considered from the Inspiration of the Almighty can read Scripture and form Queries and call them Christian too yet who will dare affirm this Man's Queries to be Christian Can they beat down Self-Will They may talk of it or exalt the Living Truth that came not from it This is the Scope of J. Story 's Answer to the Questioner For what is this but Stealing the Prophets and Apostles Words when they are made Use of
of God in the Hearts of Men Consequently not the Scriptures but the Light was is most properly The general Rule The middle Proposition only to be excepted against is clear in that before the Scriptures were writ and since where they have not been known Men have been are Convinc'd Reprov'd Inclined Taught Order'd and Ruled by the inward Appearance of God's Light in the Conscience And among those who are called Christians let them be just to God and their own Souls and they must confess that there is something very near them when the Scriptures are quite remote both from their Persons and their Thoughts which upon any Miscarriage is as a swift Witness to smite and upon the approach of Temptation is as quick to warn and diswade the Mind from falling into the Foulness of it Is not this then more Living Immediate and General that neither Sea nor Land Day nor Night nor any condition but a Seared Conscience can exempt People or deliver them from the secret living and sensible Touches of this holy Witness whether they be to Counsel Justifie or Condemn This searcheth the Heart this tryeth the Reins of which David said It had made him Wiser then his Teachers who read and expounded the outward Law unto him § 4. And indeed it is unworthy of the Excellency of the Administration of Life it self more glorious then that of Condemnation the State of the Law that an outward Book though declaratory of never so much good and not the Good it self should be the sole general Rule of such as are under it What is it but to subject the Spirituallity of the Gospel to the Letter of the Law And thus much worse that then it self they had either the daily Living Voice of God or a Law engraven on Stone whilst the Scriptures which they call the present Gospel Rule are but in Paper But can any true Christian think that God is so wanting to his Promise who promised to Write a Law in the Hearts of his People as to bound them by meer Literal Prescripts No surely but much rather that the Law of the Spirit of Life in Christ Jesus which he promised to write in the Hearts of Men and Women should be the Rule of this Administration which is a Living Powerfull Rule present upon all Occasions and in all straights and ready to assist with Counsel Wisdom and Knowledge all who act agreeably to the Mind of God who will reward every Man according to his Works So that J. Parnel and W. S. their Expressions are clear'd For J. N's the last of the three it was not written in Derision of Scripture as is unworthily suggested but to prove that God is not limited to Instruments God whose holy Spirit is the living substantial Rule may appear after divers Manners either by bringing into the very Conscience the Truth of some weighty Passage in the Scripture or by a Ministry or any other Way yea by Balaams Ass to Balaam and that without Blasphemy or Prophaneness For by whom or what may not the Almighty direct the Sons of Men still it was not so mean a Creature as an Ass which God spoke by to aggravate the Stupidity of Balaam and greaten the Miracle No Nor the Apostles themselves much less their Writings but the Word of the Lord that was as a Fire to the Workers of Iniquity and Sanctification and Reconciliation to them that believe it That was the True Rule wherefore said the Prophet Hear the Word of the Lord. What Word that nigh in the Heart which Moses and Paul preach'd Still the outward Instrument is not the Rule the Prophet is not the Rule the Apostle is not the Rule much less are their Writings being they are but all external Instruments And this I will abide by against all the Insults of our Enemies by God's Assistance that both they are but such Instruments and that such Instruments are not the Gospel-Rule but that Light Life Power or Spirit which useth them and who attributes that Honour to the Instrument which is due to the chief Mover in it or by it commits down-right Idolatry Therefore what is flung upon the Quakers by their Adversaries is more justly chargeable upon their Adversaries But we cannot help it if that People will not work through the Outward to the Inward the Writings or Persons to the Light Life and Power that employ them for any Use or Service in the World Nor shall we ever be condemned of God that we therefore decline to attribute those Titles to the Scriptures otherwise worthy above all Books which are only due to that which gave them forth especially since what we believe in the Matter is with an holy Fear and Reverence towards our God and Good-Will towards all Men. § 5. But he Objects 1 That what is therein affirmed by the Lord we ought to believe proved from Christ's Words O Fools and slow of Heart to believe all that the Prophets have spoken Luk. 24 25. 2 That what is thereby commanded not being repeal'd by the coming of Christ it is our Duty to obey Deut. 5. 34. 3 That the holy Scriptures do in their kind determine or discover to us whether we believe and walk or practice aright or not proved hence All Scripture is given by Inspiration of God and is profitable for Doctrine for Reproof for Correction for Instruction in Righteousness that the Man of God may be Perfect throughly furnished unto all good Works and herein all things which are written in the Law and the Prophets do I excercise my self to have a Conscience void of Offence 2 Tim. 3. 16. 17. Acts 24. 16. To all which I say we do with him acknowledge that whatever the Lord hath by his Prophets and Apostles who writ the Scripture affirmed and required taking in his Exception about Christ's Coming it is our Duty both to Believe and Obey so that there is no Difficulty in that Matter For the last Passage there is some sober Scruple in our Minds about it For there are manifest Contests in the World both about Faith and Practice They result not from the Scriptures I grant but that they proceed from Mens wrong Apprehensions of Scripture in a great Measure that I affirm and I know no Man so stupid as to deny Now I would fain know which way those wrong Apprehensions are to be rectified He says by Scripture I say Not for the Key is wanting What is that Key may some say The Spirit of Truth who gave them forth Who can explain any Man's Mind so well as Himself in a Matter wherein he is not rightly understood or it is hard to understand Him And if none but what is indued with Reason is capable of understanding a Rational Proposition Neither can any Man whatever understand spiritual Propositions or Propositions about spiritual Matters in the Scriptures but by the Illumination of the Holy Spirit in some Degree or other This is so clear that the Sun is
possibly can be which he makes them but to be § 9. In short either the Scriptures are not obscure a thing we daily see or if so yet sufficient which is impossible or they must have a Judge which is most true and necessary and what Judge but the Spirit of Truth which leads into all Truth And so far are Decrees from determining because written that they are therefore determinative of Controversie because of that Conviction the Power from whence they came works upon the Conscience So that though what is true in it self is not the less so because written yet is not the Writing subject to an hundred Casualities nor Matter therein declared as there eminently the Rule much less the Judge after our Adversaries Notion of a Judge But that Living Powerful Spirit which gave it forth and who are made spiritual Men by it For the spiritual Man judges all things Such Writings may be declaratory of the Mind and Determination of the Living Rule or Judge I grant but also I utterly deny that the Writings themselves are that Rule how People are to believe them and a Judge how to determine of the Difficulties and Obscurities within themselves A meer Begging of the Question and a thing altogether absurd We cannot end this Chapter without an Acknowledgment of the Goodness of God in Opening things so clearly to the making known his Divine Light and Truth and manifestly Discovering the great Darkness and Blindness of its Opposers CHAP. VI. We deny the Charge His Proof no Proof but against himself We Own Believe and desire to Obey the Scriptures they afford Comfort and are as Lights in the World but not that True Light The Light and Spirit Superior to them § 1. THe next Charge he brings against us is a Consequence of his already mistaken Judgment and untrue Assertions concerning us viz. That we take People off from Reading the Scriptures and Looking into them for Instruction and Comfort to prove which as he thinks for none else can that is not either as deeply Ignorant of us or as Malicious against us as J. Faldo shows himself in almost every particular he brings out W. Smith speaking thus in his Catech. pag. 95. And this is the Meaning of our Doctrine to bring People to the Everlasting Word of God in themselves O Ungodly Man What Evil Spirit hath possest J. Faldo into this wretched and impious Consequence Certainly he is grosly blind or he has sinned against the Light of his own Conscience if he hath Conscience enough to think it a Sin which I profess I doubt when the Malignity Frothiness Envy and Impious Unjustice of the Man are set before me For 1 let any tell me if it be a Sin to bring People to the everlasting Word of God in themselves though he Dirts us not a little for so doing 2 If we do hereby take Men off from reading and looking into the Scriptures I do affirm against this Ungodly Priest and that by Authority from God the Scriptures Reason and the first Reformers too that no Man on Earth can understand them but by being first brought to the Everlasting Word of God nigh in the Heart by which the Lord speaks forth his Will to the Creature and the Scriptures themselves direct to this and never said that of themselves some over-doing Priests assert concerning them whose whole End is this that by Exalting the Letter and Excluding the Spirit they may lock up all Knowledge in their own Areanum and plead the Impossibility of Knowing the things of God any other way then by their literal Ministration for should Men be but turned to the Certain Witness of God in their own Consciences there placed of the Lord their whole Trade Power and Reputation would fall and their Deceits be made manifest in the View of the World which God the Righteous Judge of Heaven and Earth is now accomplishing § 2. But he says that J. Parnel censures such that draw Peoples Minds from the Light within to the Light without putting the Letter for the Light c. Shield of Tr. pag. 10. And what then Because we say that he who inlightens all Men God that is the Sun and Fountain of all Divine Light and in whom there is no Darkness at all is greater then the Scriptures therefore will it follow that we take People off from Reading or Looking into them Behold your Priest you that hear him Is this Man to be accounted of as a Minister of the Gospel that thus unrighteously deals with us But God will recompense upon his Head in the Day of his terrible Vengeance for all his Hard and Ungodly Sayings against us We do say and that rightly Whoever puts the Letter in Opposition to or above the Spirit is an Idolater For there can be no Comparison rightly made between them the Heavens don't excell the Earth more then the Spirit does the Letter and the Power the Form But if we do not therefore deny the Form of Godliness because we prefer and press more earnestly the Power neither do we exclude the Scriptures because we prefer and press the Everlasting Word of God nigh in the Heart And this I will tell him that to busie the Minds of Men with the Depth of those Truths the Scriptures declare of by reading and exercising their Minds in Meditating thereon before they have been turned unto the Measure of the Light or Grace of God in the Heart to believe and obey that in its secret Discoveries Reproofs and Strivings is to set Men about Images to conceive a God a Christ a Salvation a Damnation an Heaven an Hell by which the Inward Work of God is overlook't and they become Rich in Notion whilst most barren in Obedience and of all People that live upon the Earth the Greatest Idolaters because they bow down to their own Imaginations for real Truths And this is the State of every Opposer to the Sacred Light within how full soever of the meer Literal Knowledg of the very Scriptures themselves for indeed who knows the new Birth though the Scriptures declare of it but who really experience it § 3. But J. Story he thinks has Contributed much to prove his Assertion in this Passage And although the holy Scripture without and the Saints Practices are as Lights in the World yet far be it from all true Christian Men so to Idolize them as to set them in Esteem above the Light which is sufficient to guide or to esteem them Equal with the Light and Spirit of God within J. S. Short Discourse Pag. 2. To this he objects that J. S. confesses them to be as Lights but not a Light and that our Commendations of that Idol the Light within are such that if they were true he were a stark Fool that would direct his Eyes to the Scripture But here the Priest fail's egregiously For if the Scriptures are as Lights I cannot see how they should be denyed to be as in the
not to Deny them to be any Means whereby Men may come to know God Christ or our selves if to affirm them to be a Means whereby to resist Temptation not Dangerous to be read if to deny them to be read to any profit without the Assistance of the Spirit especially by such as know them not who are in a Rebellious and Unregenerate State if never to dare to put the Scriptures and Spirit in Opposition to each other if not to affirm the Doctrines Expressions and Holy Examples as such not to be binding Temporary Services excepted if to hold it as no Sin of Idolatry nor any other to Believe and Live according to the Instructions and Holy Examples expressed in and by the Scriptures If to do all these things so mentioned be not to deny contemn and Undervalue but rather to honour rightly instate and recommend the Scriptures then the Quakers who Believe and Do all this are not Denyers but Owners Asserters and Defenders of the Scriptures so far as they themselves desire to be Defended But we have largely prov'd that so to do is not to deny them and that the Quakers so hold therefore the Quakers are no Denyers but Maintainers of the True and Divine Authority of the Scriptures § 8. For his Comparison of us with the Papists though he has been so Cunning or Unjust rather as to quote their Authors and not ours and some passages we justly doubt it is Ridiculous and every way Unworthy of our Notice A meer Begging of the Question and by what we can guess design'd only to bring an Odium upon us He puts the Scriptures in the middle and the Quakers and Papists like the two Theeves upon the Cross on each side to discover their Harmonious Agreement against them which of them he makes to be him that should go to Paradice I know not but we have the upper Hand But we can never allow of the Comparison since the Papists place the Rule and Judgship in a Pope or General Council and the Quakers in the Eternal Unerrable Holy Spirit of God and consequently our Adversary is basely Irreverent to God that brings the Pope or a Council of Fallible Men upon a Comparison with his Infallible Spirit Nor if it were true would it be any thing against us since Protestants will not allow themselves to be therefore Papists because in several things they agree as about God Eternity Christ his Life Death Sufferings Resurrection Last Judgment and Eternal Recompence § 9. To conclude We dare leave it with God and all sober Men to judge how far J. Faldo hath abused us in giving in so black a Charge against us and traducing our Persons and perverting our Writings to prove it by base Characters fastned upon the one and false Inferences charg'd upon the other Which of themselves conspire the Overthrow of their Inventer and thus is he fairly turn'd off from the highest Round of the Ladder which he hath so unadvisedly adventur'd to mount And as it fares with some Notorious Malefactors he remains there Pendent as a Monument of his own Rash and Dishonest Undertakings to the Terror of all Passengers who shall happen to travel by this way of Controversie to the Land of Truth CHAP. X. He chargeth us with a Denial of all the Ordinances of the Gospel First in general then in particular His Proof of the first Invalid His great Disingenuity in wresting our words especially I. Pennington's § 1. THe Second part of his Book begins with the Quakers Denial of all the Ordinances of the Gospel as he will have it It is more then possible that we shall prove him ere we part not only to be a Denier of the True Gospel Ordinances but indeed an Introducer of another Gospel if such a thing may be But to his Charge First in general then in particular The Quakers deny the Ordinances of the Gospel in general by which sayes he I understand not those of Nature's Book nor what was revealed by Moses but those Ordinances which were commanded by Precept or prescribed by Example in the New Testament Now to prove what he says of the Quakers he cites G. Fox thus And we say He Christ hath triumphed over the Ordinances and blotted them out and they are not to be touched and the Saints have Christ in them who is the End of outward Forms G. Myst p. 52. In all which I find no Denial of Gospel Ordinances Nor were they so much as meant by him His Language is Scriptural For Christ did blot out the Hand-writing of Ordinances and he was to the Saints then and is to those now who rightly believe in him the End of all Meats Drinks Washings Days or any other Temporal Elementary or Figurative Worship for J. Faldo then to charge a Denial of all Gospel-Ordinances upon these words is to plead for a Legal Dispensation and Bondage to the Shadows of the Good Things to come thereby making Christ's coming of none Effect and Consequently introducing of another Gospel as speaks the Apostle besides that he basely wrests our Words § 2. Again But Pennington is so Cruel by that time he arrives to P. 38. of Unity that he says Such of the People of God as do not follow the Lord perfectly out of the City of Abomination VISIBLE WORSHIP but be found in any part thereof when the Lord cometh to judge her the Lord will not spare them I perceive that unless we will allow J. Faldo the Liberty of telling the World our Meaning or rather making his own to be ours his Essays come to nothing What Words can be sounder of their Kind Visible Worship being left out and which our Adversary unworthily puts in Are not People to follow God fully Strange Doctrine that he teacheth But grant him his Gloss alias gross Comment without Distinction and I know he do's his Work But we are not so easily to be overlaid We do declare that while Men have Bodies which are the visible Parts of Men and the Bodies of Men are conversably concern'd in Religious Worship as well as the Soul there will be there must be and there ought to be a Visible Worship Therefore most false is J. Faldo's Paraphrase yet thus far we could go That Visible Worship as such without a due Regard to what Kind of Worship it may be and what is the Root from whence it came cannot be well pleasing to God For then that so Splendid Whore and Deceitful Prophet at large described in the Revelation of Saint John would be therefore true Worshippers because their Worship was Visible But I do perceive that here it pincheth with almost all Professions The Quakers would put us off our own Strivings Willings Runnings in our own Wisdom Contrivance Appointment whereby we must take up such a Cross to self as is insupportable to Flesh and Blood And indeed it is so which all must come to know a Crucifying of or they enter not into the Kingdom of God here nor
is manifest first That no Commission was given by Christ before he broke Bread with his Disciples Consequently he must intend John ' s onely And next That John ' s Commission it self is not extant muâ—h less any Commission to perpetuate his as generally oblieging But above all that the Disciples of Christ should not onely use but esteem for an Ordinance of Christ a Baptism that had not their Lord for its Administrator as saith the Scripture for Jesus baptised not is absurd and all together Anti-Gospel If we will credit Christ's own saying The least in the Kingdom of Heaven is greater then John as if he should have said John's Administration was an Introduction and a Kind of Preparation in order to my Coming but no otherwise is it interessed in my Kingdom which is Spiritual and that I am now about to set up in the Hearts and Consciences of Men and the least of that Spiritual Kingdom is greater then the Children of John ' s Watery Dispensation § 4. That this is Truth I will further prove even from that very Place which they repute a sufficient Commission for Water-Baptism Go therefore and teach all Nations Baptizing them in the Name of the Father Son and the Holy Ghost c. In discoursing of things laid down by the Evangelists it will not alwayes suffice what some one Evangelist saith as in the Passage Controverted We have here a Commission it is granted but what it was with respect to the Baptism mentioned and the Time when it was to take place will be the Question To resolve which we must have recourse to another place without which this cannot be so clear to those who seek after Scripture-Demonstration Luke in his History of the Acts of the Apostles soon after his Address to Theophilus gives us an Account of some farewell-Expressions Christ used to his Disciples not so fully exprest in his History which he delivers to us after this manner And being assembled together with them he Christ commanded them that they should not depart from Jerusalem but wait for the Promise of the Father which sayes he ye have heard of me FOR JOHN TRULY BAPTIZED WITH WATER BUT YE SHALL BE BAPTIZED WITH THE HOLY GHOST NOT MANY DAYES HENCE From whence nothing can be clearer then first that the Baptism mention'd in Go teach all Nations Baptizizing them c. was not the Baptism of John but the Baptism of the Holy Ghost call'd the Promise of the Father which they were to wait for recorded by Luke both in the 24th Chapter of his History of Christ and the first Chapter of his History of the Acts of the Apostles Nay lest it should be thought that he meant of another Water-Baptism as some vainly imagine to help their Understanding and prevent all such Mistake he distinguishes not betwixt John ' s Water-Baptism and his own but betwixt Any Water-Baptism at all and his own Baptism of the Holy Ghost John indeed baptized with Water but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost Then you will be fitly qualified and commissionated after you shall have received the Promise of the Father which you are to wait for and then to go and teach all Nations baptizing them c. Suitable to those Expressions of the Baptist himself I indeed Baptize you with Water but he shall Baptize you with the Holy Ghost His Fan is in his Hand he will throughly purge his Floor He that cometh after me is preferred before me Besides the very words themselves taken in the Original Tongue import in Point of Propriety nothing less For the Greek knows no such thing as 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 c. baptizing them in the Name but 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 baptizing them into the Name of the Father Son and Holy Ghost which by the frequent use of that Preposition ' Eis Into it is impossible for Water-Baptism to do no more then for a Man by it to be baptized with the same Baptism where-with Christ was to be baptized to be buried with him Christ to be baptized into Christ and so to be baptized into his Death or by it and not by One Spirit to be baptized into One Body Which because no Water-Baptism could ever do it consequently follows that it was never intended of Water-Baptism since it would then have been to ascribe that to meer Water-Baptism which it is both utterly impossible for it ever to perform and is really the alone Property of the Spiritual Baptism of Christ to effect § 5. To our Objection of the Apostle's Answer Christ sent me not to Baptize but to Preach he argues Because he did Baptize some therefore it was an Ordinance and that he baptiz'd so few was but providential not designed and the Reason why it was not laid upon the Apostle Paul was because his Call was extraordinary and out of due time But the Confusion and the Weakness of this Reply might save me the Labour of an Answer with all but those who might esteem it Unanswerable because almost Unintelligible For if every Practice was an Institution then because the same Apostle Circumcised it was a Christian-Ordinance Practice then we see and all the reasonable World knows is not Institution Many things indifferent in their Nature may be practised and used and yet never instituted or required That he had it not in his Commission the Priest himself grants but excuses that Defect by a greater viz. He was called extraordinarily and out of due time But as they were all extraordinarily called or else the Priest contradicts himself so if we may believe the Apostle he was Inferior to none of them If not in his Works I know no Reason why he should be reputed so in his Commission That his Commission was of God is granted on all hands And if it pleased God to make it none of Paul's Commission we would be glad to see any of our time produce one more large and effectual till when we are contented with no more Extent in the Point then God pleased to give his great Apostle and believe whatever J. Fuldo sayes to the contrary that he was a Gospel-Christian-Apostle And if Water-Baptism had been then reputed a Gospel Christian-Ordinance neither had God omitted that in his Commission nor had the Apostle spoke so lightly of it § 6. But J. Parnel offends him in these words at least he takes Offence at them They who would have one Baptism inward an other outward would have Two Baptisms when the Scripture saith The Baptism is but One. Shield of Truth p. 11. Which he would be thought to Confute thus and it seems more material then any thing he has writ on this Subject I must tell him by the way that he tells an Untruth wilfully He uses or rather abuses the Words of the Apostle just before repeated one Lord one Faith one Baptism and there he adds but which the Text has not And here the Scripture saith the Baptism is but one
Justification that is to the Blotting out of former Iniquities for if Men could do more a thousand-fold then they do and that it were never so acceptable it is but their present Duty and cannot have Vertue enough in it to answer a present Obligation and cancel the old Debt of Disobedience too God only upon Faith in his Goodness Mercy and Holy Promise can give Remission Pardon or make free from the heavy Debt Transgression hath brought upon us and that not as thereby meriting but as obtaining such Remission from God upon his own free tender This is Evangelical Faith and Righteousness too of which Abraham was a Partaker as well before as after Circumcision that he might be the Father of all § 5. But Justification is not only taken for Remission of former Sins and Accounting of Believers as if they had never transgrest that is Righteous but for that Regenerate and Clean State of Soul and that Access to and Acceptance with God respecting Daily Duty In which sense no Man nor Woman ever was or ever will be Justified another way then by Inward and Real Righteousness Nor in this sense can any be further Justified and Accepted then as they are thus purified and regenerated Since it could be to say not only that God upon Repentance of former Sins and Belief in his Promise has blotted out their Iniquities which may be whilst habitual Sin is yet but a working out and not quite overcome for that is true enough but that God accepts such as purified sanctified and regenerated the other sense of Justification while they are actually Impure and Unregenerated this we abominate and then which nothing can be affirm'd more Reproachfull to and Destructive of his Eternal Holiness § 6. Having thus explained and exprest what we understand by the Word Justification I shall declare How far we believe Christ Jesus our Lord respecting his Coming both in the Flesh and Spirit influenceth into our Justification as the Priest terms it The Seed afterwards call'd Christ was and is God's free Gift Promise and Covenant of Light by whom alone Remission Justification and Eternal Salvation did or can come to Mankind That in the Fulness of time a Body was prepared in which he came to fulfill the Fathers good Pleasure that he preacht the Promise of Remission of Sin and Salvation to as many as believed in him and took up his Cross and followed him confirming the same by many Miracles For this Doctrine of Redemption and asserting himself to be the Off-spring of God one with God to whom all Power in Heaven and Earth was committed the Jews persecuted him stigmatizing him with the Name of Blasphemer and at last apprehended and crucified him We do say then that Faith in the same Christ who then appeared who so preached worked Miracles and lay'd down his Life for the World and not in another does give Remission of Sins and as follow'd as become all true Disciples Eternal Salvation yea that Outward Blood was then and is now to be reverently believed in as a Seal Ratification and strong Confirmation of that glad Tidings of Remission of Sin and Eternal Salvation which he held forth in the Name of his Father to those who would take up the Cross and follow him And therefore with good reason was Remission of Sins preached in his Blood because it was the most visible eminent Act of his Life both fittest to recommend his great Concernment for poor Man and confirm the Truth of that blessed Gospel he preached to him in the World § 7. And as for Satisfaction Though we deny any strickt and rigid Purchase as carnally understood and irreverently held by many yet that the Offering up his Innocent Life did and doth turn to Account to as many as truly receive him we faithfully believe yea that he did bear that for Man I mean his Iniquity he could not for himself And has by that Suffering obtained precious Gifts that is that Victory Man could never have obtain'd yet still we do ascribe all that was done but instrumentally to the bodily Sufferings and principally to the Will of that Divine Life whose Body it was which offered it up and by the which Will it was Sanctified and so acceptable with God Otherwise more nay all would be ascrib'd to the Body which I affirm to be Blasphemy it self for it was not the Body eminently which saved the People from theâ—r Sins but that which dwelt in it whose it was so that though the Body bore the Name of the Whole yet was it not the Whole but by Syneedoche a part for the whole which is very familiar in the Scriptures § 8. To his Spiritual Coming into the Soul do we ascribe the Inward Righteousness We say That Christ as he is the Light Power and Righteousness of God being received into the Soul and diligently obey'd and communed with he doth first Convince of Sin then brings Trouble for Sin and Sin thus becoming a Load to the Soul he administers Strength to shake off every such Load and Burthen and to conquer and subdue the Power of Sin and Satan in the Soul In which sense he is more properly and particularly a Saviour when he binds the strong Man spoils his Goods casts him out destroys the Works of the Devil finishes Transgression and brings in Everlasting Righteousness Otherwise in vain would he have that Title And thou shalt call his Name Jesus for he shall save his People from their Sins not the Effect Eternal Death without the Cause Sin For the Wages of Sin is Death As men sow so shall they reap And a dreadfull Disappointment will it be to the Hypocritical Professors of this day that dream of Justification Redemption and Salvation and are yet carried away with the Temptations of Satan at his will being ignorant of the inward Power of Christ to bruise the Serpent's Head To conclude that Righteousness which Christ as God's true Light Power and Righteousness works in us therefore is not of us is that which alone brings into true Union with God and Membership with his Unspotted Church consequently no Man without that Qualification can be so accepted with him or have Access to him for God is of purer Eyes then to behold Iniquity and without Holiness no Man shall ever see the Lord. But let none mistake me I do not intend that who is not quite Perfect is altogether to be condemned by no means but that Man is only so far accepted of God as he is really Regenerated and Beautified by the internal Righteousness of Christ And to this purpose is that other Scripture he quotes against us That as Sin has reigned unto Death even so might Grace reign through Righteousness unto Eternal Life by Jesus Christ our Lord For all Men having actually sinned and Sin so becoming inherent Grace that teacheth to deny all Ungodliness and Worldly Lusts and to live Soberly Righteously and Godly which is that Righteousness should also reign in all
the Christ or the Body of Christ onely I leave with Christ Scripture and Reason to determine Certain I am that this Principle must center in that senseless Dream of J. Reeve and L. Muggleton as well as that it makes a perfect Difference betwixt Him that was before Abraham and Him that said so Him that told his Disciples I will not leave you comfortless and Him that said I will come to you again Nay why should Christ say to his Disciples it was expedient he should go away since certainly if some more Excellent and Profitable Appearance of himself had not been to succeed at least as to them it had been far more Expedient he should in that Manner have remained amongst them And why did the Apostle speak of no more knowing Christ after the Flesh and of his being revealed in him and in the Saints as their Hope of Glory and that he was the Quickning Spirit and Lord from Heaven If that Body was the Intire Christ not rather the Body prepared for that Divine Power Wisdom and Righteousness to transact in and appear by and to the Sons of Men which with respect to that great Manifestation was denominated Christ or Anointed shall we dare think that he who so spoak and of whom the Apostle so testified was not the true Christ which to be sure was before that Visible Body God forbid Let that Sin lie at J. Faldo's Door § 2. But he offers to us Scripture And it was reveal'd to him Simeon by the Holy Ghost that he should not see Death before he had seen the Lord's Christ And he came by the Spirit into the Temple and when the Parents brought in the Child Jesus then took he him up in his Armes and said Lord now lettest thou thy Servant depart in Peace for mine Eyes have seen thy Salvation a Light to lighton the Gentiles c. and it is and will be granted that Simeon saw the Lord 's Christ But I hope J. Faldo will not deny unto that good Man who waited for Israel's Consolation that he had as well a Spiritual as Natural an Inward as Outward Sight of Christ For can he think that the Word which took Flesh was nothing of that Saviour and that the True Light which then appeared is to be excluded any Share therein Will J. Faldo or any Man that owns Scripture dare to affirm there was not something belonging to the True and Compleat Christ beyond what his outward Eyes could possibly see Certainly this Allegation from Luk 2. 26. will never prove the Body of Jesus which the Father prepared for him to be the Whole Intire Christ Saviour Light Salvation and Glory of Israel unless Christ under all these Considerations consisted or was made up of the more Outward Body that only was obvious to the Outward Eyes which to affirm were both to deny his Divinity and to conclude Simeon void of any Spiritual Sight or Intendment in these Words of the Lord 's Christ as a Light enlightning the Gentiles and God's Salvation to the Ends of the Earth Though still be it understood that we confess that Child as seen and understood by Simeon with respect to that great End of his Appearance to be the Lord 's Christ Nay J. Faldo himself sayes as much p. 70. otherwise there would be an exalting the Body above the Divinity nay an utter Exclusion of the Divinity with respect to the True Christ Let none then be so Ungodly and Unjust to us as to infer we deny the Lord 's Christ because we rather chuse to say the Body of Christ then Christ for sayes he Christ is God manifest in the Flesh see J. F. p. 72 77. § 3. And lest any should think that therein I contradict the inspired Saying of that Just Man when he said Mine Eyes have beheld thy Salvation the Words import no more then this Mine Eyes have beholden the Manifestation and Breaking forth of thy Seed and Heir who is come to visit the World and bruise the Serpent's Head Mine Eyes have seen him by whom thy Salvation shall be declared through whom thou wilt put forth thine Arm and work mightily for the Salvation of Man And this his other Scriptures prove at large for me the most Considerable of which I take to be this The God of our Fathers raised up Jesus whom ye slew and hanged on a Tree Him hath God exalted with his right Hand to be a Prince and a Saviour for to give Repentance to Israel and Forgiveness of Sin Act. 5. 30 31. which can no more be understood expresly stricktly and intirely so then it would be reason able for a Man to say that when Samuel died the Soul and Body which was call'd Samuel died and not rather the Body of him who was called Samuel And this is the Ground and Reason why the Socinians Muggletonians and several Anabaptists hold the Mortality of the Soul because otherwise those Words which speak of the Death of Christ could not be taken properly as they take and defend them I say then and that with Force of Reason and which at this time may be more to the Conviction of some the Suffrage of our malignant Adversary J. Faldo himself however contradicting to his fore-mentioned Sense the Words are thus to be understood The God of our Fathers who raised up the Body of Jesus from the Dead which ye slew and hung upon a Tree Him whose Body you so cruelly used hath God exalted with his right Hand to be a Prince and a Saviour for to give Repentance to Israel and Forgiveness of Sin To put this out of Doubt hear J. Faldo his own self Let not these Blasphemers of the Lord of Life and Glory delude People with a Fancy as if we believe and preach the FLESH AND BLOOD OF CHRIST TO BE CHRIST SEPARATED FROM HIS SOUL OF THE NATURE OF MAN's SOUL but undefiled OR THAT WE TAKE HIS MAN's NATURE TO BE CHRIST SEPARATED FROM HIS ETERNAL AND DIVINE NATURE One would think I had spent my Time in vain when I set about to prove that the Divine Light Life Power Wisdom and Righteousness were not unconcerned in the true Christ and consequently that the Body which only died was not the Entire Jesus or Saviour since our Adversary calls us Blasphemers and Deluders and I know not for what except it be for Teaching that Doctrine he recommends in the same Paragraph wherein he calls us those hateful Names § 4. But that his great Inconsistency with himself may be further manifest hear him again If Men be so blind as not to see the Error of Disowning Jesus of Nazareth the Son of Mary who was hanged on a Tree put into the Sepulchre of Joseph of Arimathia to be yet alive and the Christ of God by all these Scriptures the most considerable whereof are answerd it is a Blindness wherewith never any before the Quakers who professed the Scriptures to be a true Testimony were smitten
Apostolical or primitive Christianity And this shall close our Chapter and my honest and clear Answer to the second part of his Discourse which makes up more then three parts of four of his Uncharitable and Disingenuous Treatise AN APPENDIX Being A Reply to that last Part of his Book which pretends to answer the first of my Spirit of Truth Vindicated entituled An Examination of the first part of W. P's Spirit of Truth c. with a Rebuke of his Exorbitances § 1. THough there has been no Adversary which has fallen to my share that has shown more Incivility and less Learning a thing he pretends to in Answer to any of my Books then J. Faldo has done in this last part of his Quakerism no Christianity yet how little soever I have at least to bestow upon him I desire to manifest more Temper Truth and Civility then to recompence him with that Ill-bred Language those School-puns and loose irreverent if not prophane Sayings amidst the most weighty Matters it hath pleased him to give me for a great share of his Answer to the first Part of my Book I will rather betake my self to single out the Strength of his Objections if any there be and bestow my Time in Vindication of the Truth then to rail revile undervalue and stigmatize with I know not how many disgracefull Epithites a Way that never yet reacht into any Man's Conscience And this Ken I have of J. Faldo That all his Discourse of Christianity interlined with so much Babling Prattle and base Abuse would never move a sober Turk and a Banian is a Saint to a Congregation of such kind of Christians § 2. He tells me he expected great Things when first he set about to read my Book and began to stagger in his Mind as to that Ingenious Piece call'd The Spirit of the Quakers tried or to that purpose But knowing himself better I hope he will excuse me if I do not believe him He never had that Opinion of any thing writ in Defence of a People he testifies such irreconcilable Hatred to which is none of the meanest Blots in his Scutchion Pen the Answerer if he were not furnisht with Fore-head and Tales beyond measure his Pamphlet would have had nothing remarkable in it Whether this be most a Lye or an Abuse I know not perhaps the Reader may but sure I am there is more of both then stands with true Christianity to give a comprehensive Under value of what he can never answer which perhaps goes for one among such as have Faith in him or know no better § 3. But he is angry at my Stating the Question thus Whether God's Holy and Unerring Spirit is or should be the proper Judge of Truth Rule of Faith and Guide of Life among Men especially under the Administration of the blessed Gospel of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ or no. I affirm it and proceed to prove it by Scripture and Reason Upon which be pleased to hear his Reflection and from hence make a Judgment what that Spirit must be that should so pretend to answer my Spirit of Truth c. Considering his Words foregoing which are too many and too worthless to transcribe And what he drives at in the handling of this Question I never read one so lame and deformed in my Life come forth with such State and Confidence and such a train and rout of Mediums as deformed as it self There is in it neither Logick nor Honesty Certainly if he had not turned Quaker and in that Fall put all out of joynt he could not likely after such good Nursing have been thus lamentably cripled in his Intellects and somewhat besides One would think the Strain of this Comment were Answer to it self Why so much flourish and little done Must Noise supply the Absence of Reason and base Reviling go for Confutation Shallow Man what Lameness is there in the Question I profess I see none nor has he so much as pointed at one Limb that is defective in all this Rabble of Reflection I have neither Logick nor Honesty It had been to be wish'd that he had shown more of both in saying so or held his Tongue But my turning Quaker has put something out of joynt But what I know not unless the good Opinion I once undeserved had of such Mountebank Priests But give him his due he is the first Man that ever acquainted me with the Ground of Cripling I was never yet wise enough to think it a Natural Effect of Ill-nursing only through Carelesness in Nurses Falls and the like have brought it I perceive he is not only a Wel wisher to Physick by his hard Word Ebullitions but a small Pretender to Chyrurgery by his Terme out of joynt when he has given better Proof of his well-setting to rights his own dis-joynted or if he will dislocated Cause with that of Chistianity he may better set up for a Religious Bone-setter and in the mean time he can pass but for a Pretender But I have no Logick And why Because I say pag. 37. there is no more Difference to me between a Judge Rule and Gaide then essentially there can be in the Wisdom Justice and Holiness of God he should have added sayes J. Faldo nor between Truth Faith and Life amongst Men. I would know of any Man that can think himself capable of judging in the plainest Case if this be an Answer to my Argument I said then I do again that there is no more Difference in them respecting the Principle then essentially there can be in the Wisdom Justice and Holiness of God which are but so many Words to express the Perfection of one and the same Being for he is all and that in all Wise in being Just and both in being Holy They are inseparable for That which gives me a right Sense or Judgment of Truth from Error is as well to me a Rule what I should believe or dis-believe and a Guide what I should practise or not practise as at first it was my Judge of what was Truth from what was Errour All which sober and indeed unanswerable Arguing he thought fit to over-look which is very Disingenuous I say that the same Spirit which is a Judge is a Rule and Guide even in that very Act when it is a Judge and that unavoidably Therefore to distinguish them is frivolous and to maintain one to be a Rule and another a Judge is absurd and heterodox For his Addition it is not hard to answer That there is more Difference between Truth Faith and Life for one may be without the other two I mean Truth abstractly But if it shall be understood of Truth received into the Heart I say that there is so great an Affinity between Truth true Faith and an Heavenly Life that they follow each other almost at an instant and cannot be separated from each other § 4. But he is Angry that I should use these Words of Lord
so besotted as to think that when a Measure of the Spirit was given to all to profit with and that the Children of God were led by the Spirit of God and the Spirit that was sent into the Hearts of the Sons of God and the Anointing that was in the Saints that was able to teach them all things was any Measure Part or Parcel of the Prophets or Apostles Writings I cannot yet think him so Blinded as Ignorant or Envious as he is Either these Passages are no Scripture or that gross Absurdity must follow § 15. But he tells us that we may be mistaken ever since some of us thought Paul Hobson ' s Mumbling through a Trunck an Hole in the Wall to be the Voice of the Lord. But were it as true as it is in many things false it shews the Prophaneness of that Anabaptist who dar'd to take the Lord's Name in his Mouth and counterfeit a Solemn Commission to a poor whimsical Wretch and as it happened out of a Spirit of Covetousness and Inhospitality for he had no Mind to give him longer Entertainment so that not knowing how better to be rid of him then to forge a Commission wickedly contrived a Passage into the Chamber where the Man lay and through a Trunk prophanely utterred a kind of Commission to go to a certain place where I cannot tell but I am sure as the Story goes out of his House to whom his little Victuals had been a Burden A Practice for the Avarice Prophaneness and Abuse of it to be abhorred and detested of all sober Men. And I think the Man more excusable under his Mistake then Major Hobson who ventur'd into so much Wickedness that with Design to bring him into it 'T is true that such a Man there was that he went to Major Hobsons House that he dealt so wickedly by the Man to be rid of him that the Man had been among us but as his Practice shew'd him to be none of us so was not any of his Imaginations countenanced by us but sharply rebuk'd and therefore that part of J. Faldo's Reflection a Lye Yet since he has gotten this Story by the End I will see how much better grounded J. Faldo would be upon his Principles against a Quaker should he be so Impious as to put the same prophane Abuse upon him Suppose J. Faldo either by a Trunk or Hole through a Wall or one of the new invented Trumpets that carry a Voice a Mile should have as far as Words go a very solemn Commission to go preach the Gospel in any other Place then Barnet where I hear he now lives within this Isle or some more remote Part of the World and that not only once or twice but many times joyn'd with Threats and Promises I will suppose his Inclinations will lie at home unless more be to be gotten an Infallible Ground of Motion with many of his Tribe But I would know of him which Way or upon what Foot he would Receive or Reject such a Commission The Scripture makes no mention of any such thing in Particular in General it will not reach it because this is no other Gospel that he should be required to preach then that which he pretends to be according to Scripture I say with what would he relish savour or try this Voice Would he reject it because the Scripture did not particularly own it There is the same Reason why he should embrace it because it does not particularly deny it How will he do then Why perhaps he will go because there is no General in Scripture that withstands it But how does he know that so many good Words in themselves were spoken from God and not to deceive tempt or abuse him 'T is true the Scripture has general Denials to False Spirits and general Testimonies to the Motions of the True One but still here 's but a Begging of the Question for how shall I know that the Voice or Spirit be True or False It is not Unscriptural Unreasonable nor Improbable Alas for John Faldo Have all his Preaching Praying Writing c. no better Foundation then Hear-say Imitation strong Fancy and external Sense Can he not savour and relish Spirits as well as Words If not he may truly be styled a Man of Words but void of that Spirit which tryes Spirits and gives right Discerning to all that believe in it and are led by it of those things that may concern them I might say much upon this Theme but let this suffice to detect the Weak Foundation of J. Faldo's Faith Knowledge and Practice and that such as he though pretendedly 2 or 3 degrees more refined then the present Protestants are miserably apostatized from the First Revolters from Romes Idolatries who asserted none could understand the Scriptures themselves much less benefit by them who had not the same Spirit that gave them forth consequently the Spirit and not the Scriptures were the Principal Cause of Right Knowledge and Rule for our very Understanding of them And truly though J. Faldo would have the World think he both understands the Quakers Principles very well and has refuted them very clearly yet whether he will give me leave or no I will make him speak the Language of the Quakers passing well in this particular of the Spirits being the Judge Rule and Guide of Faith Worship and Conversation the thing aim'd at in that First Part of my Spirit of Truth Vindicated by him so much quarrell'd at perverted and scurrilously abused or else I greatly mistake his Mind And which will be much to my Defence he must likewise have done so himself Hear him § 16. But Mr. Penn do you deal fairely and honestly with your Adversaries to imply in your Question that we deny the Spirit of God to be a proper Rule of Faith Guide of Life Judge of Truth You know that we own it to be such and that it doth both IN THE CONSCIENCE and by the Scripture Creation and Providence perform such Acts c. and is to such Purposes that of Right What can we say more Has he not strangly mis-understood us Again Only we deny that the Spirit alwayes performs these Acts without the Use of the Scripture or any External Means Truly and so do we For we daily enjoy the Benefit both of God's Spirit by the Scripture and publick Worship as Means If this be the Grindstone my Nose is to be held at and by not mentioning of which as he falsly sayes of me I abuse and trifle him and my unwary Reader I am contented to abide here while I live as my Discourse at large upon the Scriptures must needs have informed those who have read it But I am of the Mind that J. Faldo will finde it too hot for him and I am assured that so much Concession overturnes him for ever as to his present Basis For that he should oppose my Discourse that intended nothing more then to prove God's Spirit
and moves and inclines to Purity Mercy Righteousness which are of God We deny and abominate that Ranting Spirit that would charge the Spirit of God with their Unholy Liberty God's Spirit makes free from Sin not to Sin Neither can we distinguish as they wickedly do between the Act and the Evil of it wherefore we say that as the Tree is known and denominated from the Fruit so the Spirits by their Motions and Inclinations and the Spirit of God never did incline to Evil. So we renounce that Construction of their esteeming Evil no Evil when any pretend to be lead to it by God's Spirit for that is not the Way and Method of his Spirit that is Pure and Holy forever Priest The Quakers must be all Infallible and Perfect if they have such a Light Quaker This also is a great Abuse of our true Meaning We say the Principle is Pure Perfect Unerrable in it self but we never did assert our selves such meerly because it was in us by no means but that all who are lead by it are so far Perfect and Infallible and no Jot further Who can lay down a more independent Doctrine upon Self and hourly depending upon the Grace or Gift of God Let us not be mistaken nor suffer for these things Priest The Quakers deny the Scriptures for they deny them to be the Word of God Quaker We own the Scriptures as they own themselves a Declaration of those things most truly believ'd given forth in all Ages by the Inspiration of the Holy Spirit That they are profitable for Reading for Exhortation for Reproof in Righteousness that the Man of God may be perfectly furnished They are the Form of sound Words We believe in them read them and it is the Work we have to do in this World and the Reason why we are so separated from it and the earnest Desire of our Souls to Almighty God that we may witness the Fulfilling of them That God's will may be done in Earth as it is in Heaven But to call them the Word of God which they never did themselves but which they peculiarly denominate Christ by in Reverence to Christ alone and no Slight to them do we as in Duty and Reason bound attribute that Title to him only Priest They deny them to be any Means whereby to resist Temptation Quaker This is a very Aspersion True it is that we deny the Scriptures of themselves to be sufficient to resist Temptation But that we should deny them to be any Means whereby to do it when we allow our own Writings may be such is either great Ignorance or Malice God has doth and will make Use of them for Reproof Comfort and Edification Priest The Quakers assert the Spirit of God to be the Immediate Teacher and that there is no other Means now to be used Quaker We never spoak such Language but perceive the Subtilty of the Devil in this thing as in others For since he cannot hinder the Exaltation of the Spirit above all visible Instruments and the Necessity of its Motions and Operations in the Hearts of Men and the great Suitableness of it to the Gospel Administration he would spoile us by Overdoing that is by inferring beyond that our Assertion will allow For we never denyed Means but to this Day from the Beginning we have been in the Use of them But then they are such Means as are used in the Life and Power of God and not in and from Man's meer Wit Will or Imitation the thing we strike at Strange because we deny all false Means or Means not used in the Leadings of God's Power and Spirit that therefore we must deny all Means however rightly employed Behold the Injustice of our Enemies Wherefore be it known unto all that Evangelical Means and Order we love and keep For we Assemble Our-selves together to Worship God where we Pray in the Motion of the Spirit and Prophesie One by One as any thing is revealed Nor are we without Spiritual Songs making Melody in our Hearts to God our Redeemer Priest The Quakers deny the two Great Ordinances of the Gospel Baptism and the Supper Quaker What ever is a Gospel-Ordinance we own and practise We know no such Language in the Scriptures as in the Calumny of our Adversary 'T is true those two Practices are found but that is no Institution That they were then proper we believe but that they were at most but Figures and Signs you acknowledge that are called Protestants Now prove to us that there ought to be any Figures or Signs under the Gospel-Administration when Christ who is the Substance is come 'T is to overthrow the whole Dispensation and to make his Coming of none Effect If it be said But they were used after his Coming and Ascension too I answer So were many Jewish Ceremonies not easily abolished If any say But Christ bid that one should be done till he came Very well and he that said so told his Disciples that He would come to them Some should not taste of Death till they saw him come And he that was then with them should be in them And he would drink no more of the Fruit of the Vine till he drank it New that is the New Wine that was to be put in the new Bottel which is the Wine of the Kingdom as he expresseth it in the same place which Kingdom also is within Luk. 17. 20. He was and is the Heavenly Bread that they had not yet known nor his Flesh and his Blood as they were to know it So that though Christ was come to end all Signs yet till he was known to be the Substance to the Soul as the Great Bread of Life from Heaven Signs were usefull to shew forth and keep in hand especially the People of that Day whose Religion was attended with a Multitude of the like Types Shaddows and Signs of the One Good Thing and Substance of all Hence it is that we don't deny them that is too hard a Word but truly witnessing the very thing they signified to be come we leave them off as fulfill'd and henceforth have but One Lord One Faith One Baptism One Bread and but One Cup of Blessings which is the New Wine of the Kingdom Priest The Quakers deny Christ's Transactions at Jerusalem and the Shedding of his Blood to be Beneficial unto them It is the Light within only they expect to be saved by Quaker This is a wicked Suggestion against us We do say That the Appearance of that Second Adam the Lord from Heaven the Quickning Spirit in that Holy Body prepared of the Father for him was for the Salvation of the World who had fain in the First That whatever he then did both Living Dying had a great Influence for Good upon all that then believed and hath still for all that now believe in him as he manifests himself to us by his Light in the Conscience For we do affirm that to come to that is
the readiest nay the only Right Way to come to true Faith in Christ as he then appear'd and to receive any Benefit by him And it is not another then that Blessed Light Power Wisdom and Eternal Righteousness who then appeared by whom we have received any true Spiritual Benefit How then can our ascribing particular Salvation in this Age to him who thus now appears to our Souls render him no Saviour in that or invalidate his then Appearance whose Doctrine pierc'd whose Life preach'd whose Miracles astonish'd whose Blood atton'd and whose Death and Resurrection confirm'd his then Manifestation to be no less then God who is Light manifested in the Flesh Priest The Quakers set up Works and Meriting by Works like the Papists Whereby Faith in Christ is layd aside Quaker We say That True Faith in Christ cannot be without Works no more then a Body can live without a Spirit Nay by the Comparison if they were separable Works being compared to the Spirit would have the better The very Believing of any is an Act of the Mind and therefore a Work to God and no sooner is that Faith begotten but it falls to Working which is both the Nature and End of it Nor do we say that our very best Works proceeding from True Faith it self can merit No nor Faith joyn'd with them All that Man is capable of Believing or Performing can never merit There can be no Proportion as there must be in Merit between the best Faith and Works of three score and ten and Eternal Felicity Wherefore all that Man can do even with the Assistance of the Holy Spirit can never so merit but that Right Faith and Good Works which will follow it may and do obtain that blessed Immortality it pleaseth Almighty God to give and priviledge the Sons of Men with who perform that necessary Condition and that we groundedly and therefore boldly affirm So that we deny all Merit from the best of Works especially by such as the Papists are wont to conceive Meritorious But as we on the one Hand do stifly deny them so neither can we joyn with that lazy Faith which works not Let not Good Works make Men Papists because they make Men Christians I am sure Believing and not Working and conceiving a Salvation from Wrath where there is no Salvation from Sin the Cause of it is no whit less un-scriptural and abundantly more Pernicious and Damnable Blessed is He that hears the Word of God and does it The Blessing is to the Doer Priest They acknowledge no Resurrection nor Rewards to come Quaker In this also are we greatly abused We deny not the Resurrection but are cautious in expressing the Manner Are People angry with us for not Believing or Asserting what is Hidden and they know not themselves THOU FOOL is to the Inquirer We shall be contented with that Body God will please to give us and think it to be both our Duty and Wisdom to acquiesce in that For Eternal Rewards we not only own them but above all People have the greatest Reason so to do for otherwise who so Miserable Do we inherit the Reproach and Suffering of all that have separated from time to time That is Are the Out-crys that have been against the Protestants by the Papists and theirs against Puritans Brownists and other Separatists fallen upon us And shall we hold Principles inconsistent with an Eternal Recompence of Reward By no means It is our Faith and the contrary both a Malicious and Foolish Suggestion of our Adversaries J. Faldo's KEY Prov'd Defective I Was not willing J. Faldo's Key should go wholy Unconsider'd The greatest Part of which I here publickly acknowledge to have done us such Right that if his Explanation of many of our Words be not True I am not asham'd to pronounce that the Scriptures must be False so agreable to and consonant with Scripture has he spoken on our behalf And not only with Scripture but that Sense of it too which the Best Wisest and most Learned both of the Fathers and first Reformers have unanimously had and on which Foundation in some measure both Puritans and Brownists began their Building Low Meek Spiritual and Plain as is yet well remembred But how grosly he has mis-represented us in other Parts that the True may not give Credit to the False with any I will observe a few with what Brevity I may J. Faldo pag. 62. ASSEMBLING says he Meeting in Spirit W. Penn. This is not Ingenuous For with such as know us not nor our Practice it insinuates a Denial of Publick Worship which we ever own'd and hope shall to the End It is well known who have most shrunk from that Testimony And if J. Faldo means that they do not Worship in Spirit because he makes it Criminal in us we have Reason to say He and They are no Gospel-Worshippers For People must either worship in or out of God's Spirit If out of his Spirit then no Worship in Spirit and Truth but the Device of their own Hearts If in the Spirit then the Quakers assemble as they should do and J. Faldo is to be rebuk'd for little better then an Upstart Scoffer at Assembling in Spirit The once avowed Principle of the Ancient Brownists now call'd Independents J. F. pag. 69. THE WILL OF THE FLESH says he All that is chosen by Man though he be thereby disposed by the Will of God revealed in the Scripture W. P. This is false Many things may be and are daily chosen by Man that is not in the Will of the Flesh nor by his own Will much less when any should be disposed thereto by the Will of God revealed in the Scripture An Abominable Untruth and so Notorious that I need say no more only Challenge him to produce any of us in Proof of his Exposition if he can otherwise he hath Slandered us and our Principles For the Will of the Flesh is that which is quite contrary to God and inconsistant with the Good of the Creature J. F. pag. 69. STATE OF GLORY says he The State of Peace and Joy resulting from the Witness of the Light within in this Life W. P. It is true That Glory is revealed from Faith to Faith in this Life But to stint the State of Glory to the Peace and Joy of this Life only may justifie his wrong Opinion of us that we deny Rewards to come but it cuts off from our stedfast Faith in an Everlasting Mansion of Glory and Blessedness which from the Light within to all who obey it shall spring as a River and flow as an Inexhaustable Fountain And J. Faldo shall never know true Peace another way That is the Word of the Lord to him J. F. pag. 70. PREACHING FOR HIRE HIRELINGS says he to have a Provision for the Outward Man as a Maintenance for Preaching though no Bargain be made yea though such who receive it would Preach if they had never a Penny Reward in this World from
treat upon in his Horrid Imposture Ditch of Grossest Delusion Subverting Christianity their feigned Christ Folly Madness It began in Blasphemies against Christ Gratifying Pride Idleness Giddiness In Professors Prophane Vanity Folly Non-sense Error Whether it smell more of the Fox or the Goose Imposture Babble Blockish Person QUAKERISM ENTERED THE WORLD AS IF SATAN BROKE LOOSE and POSSESSIONS BY SATAN WERE TO MAKE WAY AND FIT SOULS FOR THE QUAKERS SPIRITS O the Hell-Dark Expressions of the Quakers Teachers What bitter Curses and Execrations Dismal Howling Horrible Roaring Blasphemy Wretch Vain Fictions Quakers Glow-worm Deck their Idol Real Non-sense But 't is Pitty not to lash a little Idiots Stark Blind Steel Hard Your Crooked Unholy Principles Their Light grows wiser and wiser Opium of Quakerism The Quakers Divine Spirit Dumb. Refreshments at Quakers Meetings so there is at Puppet-Plays Impudent Foreheads Non-such Ignorance Proud Dreaming Intolerable Notions Ignorance and Delusion Out-strip all in the Crooked Way Blasphemers of the Lord of Life Glory Surely God has given them up for their Pride Giddiness or Idle Ignorance and that in Justice and the Devil hath blinded their Minds with a Witness Horrible Abomination Gross Dark Conceits The Rankness of Quakerism This Reader is a Taste of the Spirit of the Man since he contends for the Scripture to be his Rule I would fain have the Chapter Verse that will abet this Proceed Is this J. Faldo's Religion Gospel Preaching Praying Learning Civility or whatever may be reputed Sober and Commendable Away away for Shame It would stumble a Turk to hear such Language from one that calls himself a Christian and a Minister too But is it after so great Abuse so manifest Injury done us and the Truth too that thou darest say as thou dost I have the Witness in my Conscience who hast been thus long Under-valuing it for a Glow-Worm and Idol a poor Creature Uncertain Fallible Errable and what not that I have not in this Key in any measure abused or wronged the Quakers Hadst thou been half so Moral as thou pretendest to be Christian I doubt not but to have seen more Truth and Moderation To belye any is a great Evil but to do it with a shew of Religion to call God's Witness to palliate such Injustice is the height of Blasphemy against God and Wrong to thy Neighbour Never more abuse Religion with a Pretence to it nor for Shame profess Christianity that art Inferior to a thousand Heathens who rather then not compass our Dis-grace will endeavour it per fac per nefas Right or Wrong I am sure the Witness of God in thy own Conscience never suggested this Unrighteous Proceed though wonder we must that one who has said so many detracting things of him should now appeal to him Certainly if the Witness of God be J. Faldo's Rule and Judge as his own Appeal makes him the Quakers are the less to be blam'd for Believing in him and desiring to be Lead by him but we are well assured that a Spirit of deep Prejudice hath animated him to and through this Work and not the Holy Witness of God as both the Stile and Matter have abundantly testified My Desire is that before the Evil one precipitate him into further Enmity against us by a serious Retirement of Mind to the Holy Witness of God that gives a good Understanding and brings just Reproof for every Unrighteous Thought Word Deed. He may come to a Sight of his present Undertaking to be contrary to the Mind of God and know true Repentance for it and find Mercy of the Lord God Which I heartily desire and it is my return to him for all his hard Speeches utter'd by him either against us in general or my self though unknown to him in particular God forbid that I should Justifie him I will not leave my Innocency till I Die Job 27. 5. Who am a Lover of all Men for I seek the Salvation of my Enemies William Penn. THE END Pag. 2. Sect. 2. Apostle Phil. 4. pag. 4. Pag. 6. Sect. 3. Rom. 1. 19. Eph1 19. Pag. 7. Sect. 1. Gal. 1. Pag. 9 10 11. Pag. 11. 12. Pag. 13 14 15. Pag. 9. Pag. 15. 16 17. Pag. 18 19 20. Pag. 27. Pag. 27. p. 28 29 30 31. Exod. 9. 19 20. 1 Sam. 9. 27. Ephes 6. 17. This is answer'd fully in a Book intituled Christ Ascended c. by G. W. P. 21. P. 33. Pag. 37 38. 39. Pag. 40 41. Pag. 41 42. Pag. 5. p. 53 54. P. 55. p. 65 66. p. 68 59 70 71. Pag. 71. p. 78. See Calv. Inst Eras in Nov. Test 1 Cor. 2. 2 Pet. 1. 19. Bez. ibid. P. 79. pag 80. p. 81. p. 81. pag. 87. 1 Pet. 2. 21. Heb. 13. 7. 2 Thes 3. 1 Pet. 3. 5. p. 96 97. P. 106 109 110 111 112 113. Eph. 4. 13. Tit. 2. 11. 12 Jam. 1. 27. P. 112 113. Ephes 6. 16 17. P. 117 119. P. 120. pag. 129. p. 126. Pag. 127. P. 128 139 p. 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 2. part p. 8. 9. pag. 9. pag. 10. pag. 14. 15. page 16. 17 18. 1. Cor. 14. 31. pag. 20. Rom. 10. 15. 18. Pag. 23 24 26. P. 27. 30. Joh. 4. 24. pag. 33. 34. Isa 1. 13 14 15 16 17. P. 36. Mat 28. Mat. 3 11 12. Rom. 6. 4. p. 39. pag. 37 38. pag. 38. Mark 11. 30. Acts 1. 22. 10. 37. 18. 21. 19. 3. Rom. 2. 28 29. Joh. 6. 53. 58. Math. 16. 28. 1 Cor 10. 15 16 17. pag. 46. Pag. 50 51. P. 70 71. Luk. 2. 26 27. pag. 74. pag. 72. pag. 75. Joh. 1. 9. pag. 84. 85. 2 Tim. 1 10. pag. 87. pag. 89. 90. Col. 1. 28. 2 Cor. 4. 2. Psal 145. 14. Let my Spir. of Truth Vind. be perused from p. 53. to p. 7â— pag. 91. Pag. 94. Rom. 10. 3. Deut. 30. 14. Fost c. Sckin in lex Page 98. 2 Pet. 1. 19. 1 Joh. 2. 27. * Parap in Epist 2 Pet. c. 1. v. 19. Bez. in loc Vat. Clar. in loc Grot. in loc Pag. 112 113 114. P. 119. Pag. 120. pag. 122. 123. pag. 123. p. 123. pag. 126. pag. 127. Pag. 132 135. p. 136. 1 Cor. 15. 36 37. pag. 139. pag. 141 142. Read Bishop Halls and Tho. Brook's Heaven upon Earth page 2. pag. 3. pag 4. Spir. Truth Vin. p. 37. 31. pag 5. pag 8. pag. 9. pag. 11 12. Pag. 13. pag. 20. pag. 21 22 23. pag. 24. pag. 27. pag. 27. pag. 15. pag. 30. part 3. pag. 30. part 1. pag. 108. pag. 30. 3. Part p. 2. pag. 3.
surely God hath given them up for their Pride Giddiness or Idle Ignorance and that Injustice and the Devil hath blinded their Minds Enough of him at this time in Contradiction to himself and of his Ungodly Censure of us But we hope it may not be improper to observe that though before he recommended to us the Lord 's Christ as Consisting of a Divine and Humane Nature that is God and Man and that he would not be thought to call the Flesh and Blood and Man's Soul intirely Christ in Dis-junction from the Divinity Yet now all those who say that Body which was born of Mary hanged on a Tree laid in the Sepulchre of Joseph of Arimathia was not and is not the Living Christ of God are smitten for their Pride Giddiness or Idle Ignorance and the Devil hath blinded their Minds with a Witness From whence Three Things result 1 that the Divinity is no wayes concern'd in the Lord's Christ. A manifest Contradiction to himself or else with Noetus of old and J. Reeve and L. Muggleton of our Age the God-head dyed in Company with the Manhood Blasphemy it self 2 That the meer Body was the Only and Intire Christ whatever he pretends and not so much as the Man's Soul in Conjunction with it unless the Soul was of such a material gross Matter as that it could be hang'd on a Tree dye and be laid in a Sepulchre which is to assert the Mortality of the Souls all which happened to the Lord 's Christ says J. Faldo But because the Man's Soul was not mortal and could not be hanged on a Tree and put into a Sepulchre it follows that it was the Visible Body which could only be hang'd on a Tree and laid in a Sepulchre that was and is the Only and Intire Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ in J. Faldo's sense Which how Impious it is against him that truly is so how grosly Abusive of all People and how Contradictory to himself let the whole World of Reason judge Is this the Man that must be thought fit to vaunt it over us with such Impudent Scurrility Ungodly as well as Unmannerly Reflections But in the Earth there is not any thing so Fantastical Conceited Proud Railing Busie Body and sometimes Ignorant as a Sort of Priests to me not unknown among whom our Adversary is not the least who think their Coat will bear out their worst Expressions for Religion and Practice an haughty Reviling for Christ as one of the greatest Demonstrations of their Zeal an Ill-bred and pedantick Creco the Bane of Reason and Pest of the World the old Incendiaries to Mischief and the best to be spar'd of Mankind against whom the boyling Vengeance of an irritated God is ready to be poured out to the Destruction of such if they repent not and turn from their Abominable Deceits § 5. If to excuse the Matter he or any else shall say the Body is only Synecdochically or Metonymically taken a Part for the Whole or Representatively I answer that such a Distinction overthrows him for ever For if the Body which was called Jesus and Christ and Lord c. be by him allow'd as Representative of the whole Jesus then was not that distinctly the Christ nay what has he been opposing all this while We will as truly and honestly say as it is possible for him to do that it was the Body of the Lord Jesus Christ which sometimes bore the Name of the whole Lord Jesus Christ as the Saviour of Men that was born of Mary was hanged on a Tree and laid in the Sepulchre of Joseph of Arimathia And if he will adventure to say more the Consequences of Excluding the Divinity and Man's Soul from being any part of the True Christ or their Mortality with the Body who are Immortal and not capable of being hanged on a Tree much less buried for dead in the Sepulchre of Joseph of Arimathia will inevitably fall upon him and dash him and his Carnal Notions into peeces Thus have I clear'd my Conscience in clearing up the Consistency of our Belief of the Bodily Appearance of the True Christ with Scripture and sound Reason and I hope to the plain Overthrow of our Adversary and that with what Brevity was convenient CHAP. XIX Our Adversary's proposed three Scripture-places are by us rightly applied and his Charge is found Untrue Christ is prov'd the true Light Comforter Creator and Redeemer Our Adversaries Objections examin'd and refuted His Triumph turneth to his Shame The true Signification of the Word 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 and 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 confirmed § 1. BUt he undertakes a more particular Enervation of our Understanding of three places of Scripture which he says we grosly abuse It will be worth our while to hear and stop him a little for he makes great hast to Triumph That was the true Light which lighteth every Man that cometh into the World Our Business is to know three things of him 1 What Light it is 2 In what Sense it inlightneth 3 How he understands every Man and this Line Compasseth the Matter THAT says he hath for its antecedent and is to be understood of the Word which was in the beginning with God which was God by whom all things were made the Light of Men c. Light is taken properly for that which doth Manifest or Discover any thing so Christ is Light but is now made manifest by the Appearing of our Saviour Jesus Christ who hath abolished Death and hath brought Life and Immortality to Light through the Gospel The Meaning is said he that Salvation Eternal which God hath proposed to give to his People which could not be seen in the Purpose of God as such is by the Appearing of CHRIST IN THE FLESH and therein transacting and declaring this Salvation and Eternal Life abundantly discovered and as Light properly is that which makes Manifest so metaphorically it is that which Comforts and Rejoyceth I do not in the least doubt but Christ the Word here is call'd Light in both respects And this I take to be the Import of the 4th Verse In him was Life and the Life the Light of Men that is The Salvation and Life Eternal of poor Sinners was wrapt up in Christ as God the Consideration of God manifest in the Flesh for those Ends is matter of Strong Consolation In his First Part about the Scriptures he told us that he was got to the highest Round of the Ladder in this place he has twisted himself Rope enough to answer the End of his Climing thither for if I do not from hence irrefutably prove 1 That the meer Body was not the Intire Saviour 2 That the Light within is of a Saving Nature I shall be ready to allow all our Adversaries Detrectations from the Light within but just Epithetes and a true Character of If Christ be the Light which is that Word which made all things and therefore God as saith J. Faldo then
Christ was before his Appearance and consequently our former Chapter is justified on our part against his Notions of the Lord 's Christ For it was impossible That the Visible Body taken from the Virgin should have made all things which was hung upon a Tree and buried c. But J. Faldo expresly says As the Word is the Light of Men so or in that manner is Christ the Light of Men Nay he calls it Christ's Appearing in the Flesh therein transacting and declaring Salvation c. intimating That Christ was before he took that Flesh or appeared in that Body and that he therefore took it and appeared in it to transact work declare and bring to pass by and through it as a peculiar Vessel and prepared Holy Instrument the great Salvation c. and consequently Christ was and is that Word which was with God and is God and the Light of Men c. And lest we should yet mistake him he calls it God manifested in the Flesh for those Ends to wit Salvation and Eternal Life And that he might speak all for us in a little and give the Deaths-wound to his own Cause he tells us in so many Words That the Salvation and Life Eternal of poor Sinners was wrapt up in Christ as God Is not this pretty fair for an Adversary as ill-willing to us and to the Truth as J. Faldo one of Ten Thousand in his Displeasure against us Certainly if the Quakers are condemnable for believing It was and is Christ as the Word in whom was Life and that Life the Light of Men that he was and is a Saviour J. Faldo must not be the Man that shall give the Sentence who I know not how nor why but that God and his Truth may be glorified by his Self-overthrow hath asserted the Quakers Principle and that at an high rate and if it can be an Honour to him that he has assisted to the Conquest of himself he ought to have it without any Envy § 2. But he is as serviceable to us altogether in Defence of the Light however undesigned which I prove thus If Christ be properly that Light which manifests or discovers any thing the terms of his Concession and therefore it doth manifest the Purpose and Grace of God which was given in Christ before the World was whereby Death comes to be abolished and Life and Immortality brought to Light Then must Christ Jesus this manifesting Light be a Divine and Saving Light without all Dispute Now J. Faldo affirms Christ to be that Word and proper Light that so manifesteth discovereth as exprest consequently that Light which doth so Manifest and Discover is a Saving Light Again If the Light be not only a Manifesting Light which is to take it Properly but a Comforting Light also which is to take it Metaphorically as saith J. Faldo Then this Light as the Word-Creator is not therefore call'd Light from a bare Act of Discovery but is a Principle of Life Power Vertue c. by which such as obey it are consolated and by the Reason of Contraries who rebel against it are condemned Which makes up those two States of Light and Darkness and their Rewards Consolation and Misery And thus much our Adversary further proves for us In him was Life and the Life was the Light of Men that is the Salvation and Eternal Life of poor Sinners was wrapt up in Christ as God which is to say That the Life of the Word was and is the proper Light of Men and unto all such poor Sinners as did and do believe in it that Light is unto them Salvation and Eternal Life then which nothing can be more Orthodox in the Point Who would think that J. Faldo should ever undertake the Quakers so little understanding their Principles And if he did know them What should aile the Man to be so much our Friend to write against himself under Pretence of writing against us One would think he did it by the same Figure Irony that some call Fools Wits Yet he would fain distinguish Christ the Light as Creator and Redeemer making the first Common the other Peculiar and that spoils all To which I shall briefly answer for he only starts it himself There is but one Kind of Light which results from the Life of the Word and because it cannot be such but it must be Divine and Sufficient as well to Redemption as Conviction it will unanswerably follow that the manifesting Light of the Word J. Faldo confesseth all Mankind more or less to be lighted with is of a Divine and Saving Nature and that which strengthens this Conclusion is that Christ as God is by our Adversary made the Saviour and unless he would deny him that he calls God to have been before that Manifestation in Flesh a Redeemer to the Ancients which were to conclude the Damnation of all that died antecedent Christ the Word as that Light was the proper Redeemer through all Generations Though I will grant to him and that in the Name of all that People call'd Quakers the Discoveries made by Christ or God manifested in the Flesh transcended all former Manifestations and as in my Spirit of Truth Vindicated it is largely confest had this Adversary been Ingenuous enough to have weigh'd it So again I declare that eminently whatever was before or hath been since might in a sense be said of that Manifestation because he that then appeared was the Fulness of that Light Life and Power which measurably was is and may be dispensed to the Sons of Men wherefore in that sense he was both before and after the same Convincer Converter Redeemer and Saviour to the Souls of Men. § 3. But he is much stumbl'd and not a little abusive because I would have 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 render'd Enlightneth rather then Lighteth in my Spir. of Truth Vindic. saying of me I perceive he is as very as those Physicians who impose severe Abstinence on others but they themselves will take their Cups off and their good Cheer to Wantonness and Giddiness How far this Character may be by any thought to resemble William Penn a Man he often strickes at I know not but I dare say for him he never was so Disingenuous as to deserve it and least of all from J. Faldo with whom he never had to do and who must needs make a Random-guess in the Matter But this is not the only Scurrility William Penn however unconcern'd he be has receiv'd at the hands of that Rude Priest nor that he is able to bear He takes it for granted that W. P's Passive Religion is like to be a Protection to his base Tongue and so long the Priest sleeps in a whole Skin I cannot imagine what his dashoe should signifie But it is ill done of a Priest to quarrell his next Order and one too which if I am not mistaken the Non-Conforming Priests have swarm'd after as the next way of Maintenance to their displac'd Carkasses